Excuse my noobishness please,
The Atrix is my first android phone. (Finally got bored of the iPhone).
I was looking at installing GreyBlur. Currently I'm on a rooted 1.8.3 (used afterroot.bat/gladroot).
My question is:
If installing GreyBlur using CWM, does it affect any of my existing data on the phone's internal storage, SD card, etc?
Would I be reinstalling apps and losing messages, etc, or does it retain everything?
Thank you!
No worries!
It should retain all of your data, music, etc. It's a pretty simple process.
My only advice: if you're switching to a different P-ROM (like from GingerBlur to GladAtrix), reflash your phone with RSD. I went from GingerBlur to GladAtrix and had tons of problems.
drumercalzone09 said:
No worries!
It should retain all of your data, music, etc. It's a pretty simple process.
My only advice: if you're switching to a different P-ROM (like from GingerBlur to GladAtrix), reflash your phone with RSD. I went from GingerBlur to GladAtrix and had tons of problems.
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Awesome!
I'm probably going to stick with one PROM for now. If I was to reflash using RSD to switch over to a different rom, what's the deal with existing data?
Also, I know these roms are deodexed, and that causes an issue with receiving OTA updates. Assuming Motorola releases a new update sometime soon, how would I go about flashing to the updated firmware while retaining my information, or is it not possible?
I believe I had to use SBF recovery or something?
Thanks!
silentecho13 said:
Awesome!
I'm probably going to stick with one PROM for now. If I was to reflash using RSD to switch over to a different rom, what's the deal with existing data?
Also, I know these roms are deodexed, and that causes an issue with receiving OTA updates. Assuming Motorola releases a new update sometime soon, how would I go about flashing to the updated firmware while retaining my information, or is it not possible?
I believe I had to use SBF recovery or something?
Thanks!
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When you flash an sbf, your data and info will be reset so make sure to do a complete backup before flashing an sbf file.
As far as OTA updates go, I'm not well versed but I believe it is recommended to do a fresh sbf -> update OTA -> then install whatever P-ROM.
I THINK, devs are pretty quick about releasing the latest update though so you might just be able to flash from old P-ROM to update P-ROM ? again, just my assumptions.
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When you flash an sbf, your data and info will be reset so make sure to do a complete backup before flashing an sbf file.
As far as OTA updates go, I'm not well versed but I believe it is recommended to do a fresh sbf -> update OTA -> then install whatever P-ROM.
I THINK, devs are pretty quick about releasing the latest update though so you might just be able to flash from old P-ROM to update P-ROM ? again, just my assumptions.
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Option 2 sounds pretty damn convenient lol.
backup
k00ey said:
When you flash an sbf, your data and info will be reset so make sure to do a complete backup before flashing an sbf file.
As far as OTA updates go, I'm not well versed but I believe it is recommended to do a fresh sbf -> update OTA -> then install whatever P-ROM.
I THINK, devs are pretty quick about releasing the latest update though so you might just be able to flash from old P-ROM to update P-ROM ? again, just my assumptions.
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I was just wondering what people always mean by 'complete backup'.
What I do is I backup my sd / ext-sd and also all the user apps/data with TitaniumBackup.
But is there a way to create a full image of the system to be able to recover it with CWM?
If yes, how?
Thanks
redThd said:
I was just wondering what people always mean by 'complete backup'.
What I do is I backup my sd / ext-sd and also all the user apps/data with TitaniumBackup.
But is there a way to create a full image of the system to be able to recover it with CWM?
If yes, how?
Thanks
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I'd like to know this as well before I even attempt to install any custom ROM.
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So whenever Sprint pushes its 2.1 update, will those of us with rooted heroes and custom roms have to unroot in order to receive the update? Or will we have to wait for the custom roms to support 2.1?
Just wondering, because I really want and like 2.1 but I don't want to wipe my data.
More than likely the debate here will have a 2.1 build that's fully functional long before Sprint pushes one but even if they don't after it. Gets pushed out the debate here will have one that supports root. If you ruu and take the ota update it may correct the security exploit that was used to root so you would have to wait until someone found a way to root it again.
Be pacient we have great devs on here it will only be a matter of time.
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basically, wait until we have a ROM here to upgrade, don't get OTA if you want to keep root access. You might not be able to get it back
Source code released yesterday, so won't be much longer.
bye the time sprint pushes an update, there will be 3 other android phones to chose from.
edit: new android phones at sprint i mean
Yeah, Sprint sucks with updates being released in a timely manner. With my bberry, I was always using other carriers to update.
So I guess the consensus is to wait for our devs to get a full 2.1 rom working rather than unrooting and upgrading ota.
When the new dev roms come out, I was also wondering if I could save all my data, or how i could save all my data if a wipe was required.
If your phone is rooted, I would recommend an app from the market called "Backup for Root Users".
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If your phone is rooted, I would recommend an app from the market called "Backup for Root Users".
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Thanks. I'll try that. Do you have any experience using it with one of the dev roms that need wipes? I am considering switching from modaco 2.0 to the aosp 2.1 but my concern was getting all my data back.
Ya it works. After you restore everything, you need to hard restart the phone (SEND+MENU+END) or it will be real slow until you do hard reset it.
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So I guess the consensus is to wait for our devs to get a full 2.1 rom working rather than unrooting and upgrading ota.
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There will be a fully functional 2.1 rom here waaaaaaaaaaay before Sprint releases a 2.1 ota
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If your phone is rooted, I would recommend an app from the market called "Backup for Root Users".
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Maybe there's a special way to do it, or maybe you don't backup everything, but Backup for Root Users totally effed up my restore when I moved from Fresh 1.1 to Modaco 2.0.
Actually, I tried Backup for Root Users, Astro File Manager, Titanium Backup, all of them sucked. (even after a fresh wipe of course)
I finally went back to my Fresh nandroid backup because I was getting so many FC's.
Maybe it was because it copied the APK's + "System Data" that did it, but it certainly didn't work, not smoothly anyway. :/
I've never had issues with Backup for Root Users. It takes time to restore everything & it is highly recommended that you hard reset your phone it it is finished restoring.
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Maybe there's a special way to do it, or maybe you don't backup everything, but Backup for Root Users totally effed up my restore when I moved from Fresh 1.1 to Modaco 2.0.
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I've moved from Fresh to MoDaCo without wiping and it has worked just fine.
I have a backup made from Fresh, and I am planning on flashing AOSP 2.1 soon. I'll try the restore tool and tell you how it works. If it doesn't...That's what nandroid backups are for.
I have a question related to this topic. I have a rooted Hero with TTG 1.6 ROM running. Seems like right now, if I wanted to switch to a different ROM like Fresh, all I ever needed to do is copy the zip file to the SD root, reboot while holding the Home button down, and select "Install from .zip" or however it's phrased. When a new 2.1 ROM comes out, would it be that simple, or would there be more steps involved since the ROM isn't based on the current 1.5?
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I've moved from Fresh to MoDaCo without wiping and it has worked just fine.
I have a backup made from Fresh, and I am planning on flashing AOSP 2.1 soon. I'll try the restore tool and tell you how it works. If it doesn't...That's what nandroid backups are for.
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I tried it and im getting FCs all over the place. Back to Fresh and MoDaCo 2.0 for now.
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I have a question related to this topic. I have a rooted Hero with TTG 1.6 ROM running. Seems like right now, if I wanted to switch to a different ROM like Fresh, all I ever needed to do is copy the zip file to the SD root, reboot while holding the Home button down, and select "Install from .zip" or however it's phrased. When a new 2.1 ROM comes out, would it be that simple, or would there be more steps involved since the ROM isn't based on the current 1.5?
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A factory wipe would probably be required (Not the RUU though)
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Maybe there's a special way to do it, or maybe you don't backup everything, but Backup for Root Users totally effed up my restore when I moved from Fresh 1.1 to Modaco 2.0.
Actually, I tried Backup for Root Users, Astro File Manager, Titanium Backup, all of them sucked. (even after a fresh wipe of course)
I finally went back to my Fresh nandroid backup because I was getting so many FC's.
Maybe it was because it copied the APK's + "System Data" that did it, but it certainly didn't work, not smoothly anyway. :/
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I never had any luck with backup for root users, it worked on apps but not on anything else. Finally, I bought reware mybackup. It works awesome, restores everything.
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I tried it and im getting FCs all over the place. Back to Fresh and MoDaCo 2.0 for now.
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Could be the whole number of apps issue.
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Could be the whole number of apps issue.
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How many apps does it support? Or is it even that? How much is the reware mybackup software? Do you have a link for it? And will it only work on rooted phones or can the backups be transferred to unrooted ones as well?
My friend lost the memo app on her samsung phone after upgrading to 2.2. Will these DJ0509 updates er whatever do that to me?
Basically, I haven't updated the software at all. I rooted and uninstalled a ton of bloatware right after getting the phone, and I guess I lost whatever it is that does the updates so I'm still on day 1 version... I've been thinking of updating.
Well, if I understand the rooted rom/update scenario I've read a bunch of times here (though not done myself), when you use the rooted flash scenario to put on the updates, it will wipe your device. So you will need to back it all up with titanium or something.
If you are stock and you OTA update the DL09 that just released this morning, then nothing gets removed or lost on your phone. This I did do and it's all there.
Are you talking about doing the standard update, via Verizon and Innopath ????
Backup with Titanium Backup. Install your new ROM/Software/Kernel/Theme. Use ROM manager/Download ROM/SonofSkyWalker3/Stock Apps. Chose Memo to reinstall. Install/Reboot. Go into Titanium and restore memos. All of your saved memos will be there.
Hope that helps.
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Well, if I understand the rooted rom/update scenario I've read a bunch of times here (though not done myself), when you use the rooted flash scenario to put on the updates, it will wipe your device. So you will need to back it all up with titanium or something.
If you are stock and you OTA update the DL09 that just released this morning, then nothing gets removed or lost on your phone. This I did do and it's all there.
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Installing a rooted update .zip wont wipe user data. It will only wipe system. Also he wont be able to install via OTA because of the bloatware removal. Since OTA updates patch files instead of overwriting them. If it can't find them the update will fail.
So if you were to update using say super clean DL09 you won't lose user data. But if you were to flash the full odin DI01 so you could get the DL09 OTA, you will lose user data.
If you haven't done something please don't spread false information regardless of if you read about it many times, because you obviously got it wrong.
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Ok So Im so sick of the GB OTA release date getting pushed back so I think im ready to apply the latest leak of GB manually. But first I have a few questions:
1. Can I get a link to the latest GB leak?
2. Is the latest leak rootable?
3. Will there be noticeable changes between the latest leak and the official OTA update?
4. IS there any way to apply the latest leak of GB without losing any data like apps and text messages without having to back them up with thirdparty apps?
Thanks a bunch!!
Latest GB leak (afaik) is 595 and yes, it is rooted. Use the search option in the forums and you will find lots of info.
Since .595 is just an update... If u allready have .588 or .591 installed u shouldnt have to wipe data.. I always do just to make sure I have a clean install. Worth a shot.
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4. IS there any way to apply the latest leak of GB without losing any data like apps and text messages without having to back them up with thirdparty apps?
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Just do a full nandroid backup in CWM, then do an advanced restore in CWM and restore the data for the backup. Worked like a charm for me.
openbox9 said:
Just do a full nandroid backup in CWM, then do an advanced restore in CWM and restore the data for the backup. Worked like a charm for me.
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Would that have the same effect of not wiping data before flashing a rom then?
I don't think so, because when I SBF, my /data is no longer intact. Anyway, it was P3's suggestion when moving from .573 GB back to Froyo, then up to .588 GB (.595 in my case).
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Ok So Im so sick of the GB OTA release date getting pushed back
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I am just as sick of people posting questions asking about the leak.
So, I'm new to the world of tablets - the only interaction with them being some light use on my mom's tablet (including rooting it via Iconia Root and installing Acer Recovery Installer v2.54) I was curious about updating via ARI (since she's rooted and being plagued by OTA popups). Back when she first got the tablet, she tried to update and it would stop mid-download, giving no error, and just sit there until she cancelled it (this was before the root). So, basically, my question is: Is it possible to run a stock update (Ie "Stock 3.1 4.010.42_EMEA_GEN3") without having to wipe during install? I have a backup via ARI and also Titanium backup installed but I'd really like to not have to re-install all the apps/set up the homescreen (she's on stock) and stuff. I know on my OG droid that when I installed CM7 I had to do a wipe for it to even get past the boot screen but I figure with this being a stock update maybe it's different...
If not is there some way that I can install an update while keeping the root/system data?
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So, I'm new to the world of tablets - the only interaction with them being some light use on my mom's tablet (including rooting it via Iconia Root and installing Acer Recovery Installer v2.54) I was curious about updating via ARI (since she's rooted and being plagued by OTA popups). Back when she first got the tablet, she tried to update and it would stop mid-download, giving no error, and just sit there until she cancelled it (this was before the root). So, basically, my question is: Is it possible to run a stock update (Ie "Stock 3.1 4.010.42_EMEA_GEN3") without having to wipe during install? I have a backup via ARI and also Titanium backup installed but I'd really like to not have to re-install all the apps/set up the homescreen (she's on stock) and stuff. I know on my OG droid that when I installed CM7 I had to do a wipe for it to even get past the boot screen but I figure with this being a stock update maybe it's different...
If not is there some way that I can install an update while keeping the root/system data?
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No. If you run the OTA, you WILL lose root. Not to mention I don't have a lot of faith in any device OTA updates. Prior experience, and hanging around various forums, well, you can read the horror stories.
I would advise, if you want to upgrade her OS and get rid of the "pesky" update notifications, is to flash one of the Stock rooted roms available. Or maybe a stripped down version of a Stock rom.
Search the developer section for a rooted version of the stock OTA, there are several in there. Install it via recovery, you only need to wipe dalvik and cache before the install. All of her data and programs will still be there. It will upgrade just fine. Remember wipe Dalvik and cache but do not wipe data and everything will be fine.
get and flash one of the honeylicious rom from the dev area .. good rom very basic apps.. but has a update to get the acer apps back.. and bunch of other cool mods.. the dev is also . kinda trustworthy..
Giggles.. ok he is kewl for a guy yukeeee guys smell..
good luck .. read read read read before you flash anything and of course back up and back up your backups .. then back them up again
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Search the developer section for a rooted version of the stock OTA, there are several in there. Install it via recovery, you only need to wipe dalvik and cache before the install. All of her data and programs will still be there. It will upgrade just fine. Remember wipe Dalvik and cache but do not wipe data and everything will be fine.
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Well... if the person was going to do an update to the exact same rom (different version) I would say ok.
But... if you are going to go to a totally different Rom, you NEED to wipe User Data.
Or, does anybody want to tell me you never have to?
3 Wipes. Mandatory when switching between roms, unless you are a dev and know exactly what you are doing.
Or.... you can forget about the safe side of things, and just flash away, and hope luck is with you.
The Market, SHOULD, allow you to re-download apps based on the market version you previously used. If not, it's a good time to clean house of the useless apps.
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No. If you run the OTA, you WILL lose root. Not to mention I don't have a lot of faith in any device OTA updates. Prior experience, and hanging around various forums, well, you can read the horror stories.
I would advise, if you want to upgrade her OS and get rid of the "pesky" update notifications, is to flash one of the Stock rooted roms available. Or maybe a stripped down version of a Stock rom.
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I wasn't talking about an OTA, I was talking about the stock 'rom' updates via recovery. I've had experiences with phones that have been rooted and accidentally updated via OTA, it's not fun. My phone was actually put into something I like to refer to as the Root limbo lol, bricked it for a small period of time - that was fun fixing it. I didn't have a nandroid at the time so I had to start from scratch...
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Search the developer section for a rooted version of the stock OTA, there are several in there. Install it via recovery, you only need to wipe dalvik and cache before the install. All of her data and programs will still be there. It will upgrade just fine. Remember wipe Dalvik and cache but do not wipe data and everything will be fine.
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So if I find a rooted version of stock OTA I can install it and only wipe Dalvik? I won't get stuck in a bootloop if I don't wipe data?
AliceInUnderland said:
So if I find a rooted version of stock OTA I can install it and only wipe Dalvik? I won't get stuck in a bootloop if I don't wipe data?
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If you stick with a stock pre-rooted ROM, you won't get stuck in a bootloop like you do some phones. You're just doing an upgrade.
But like doing an upgrade to any other OS without formatting first, you're writing good data over bad, so your mileage may vary.
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erica_renee said:
get and flash one of the honeylicious rom from the dev area .. good rom very basic apps.. but has a update to get the acer apps back.. and bunch of other cool mods.. the dev is also . kinda trustworthy..
Giggles.. ok he is kewl for a guy yukeeee guys smell..
good luck .. read read read read before you flash anything and of course back up and back up your backups .. then back them up again
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Hey I resemble....or is it resent that remark! lol
kjy2010 said:
If you stick with a stock pre-rooted ROM, you won't get stuck in a bootloop like you do some phones. You're just doing an upgrade.
But like doing an upgrade to any other OS without formatting first, you're writing good data over bad, so your mileage may vary.
I can't seem to find any pre-rooted stock Roms on the Developers forum. Links? I know I'm probably being a pain in the ass but I really don't want to get something by mistake and start with scratch on my mom's tablet - if it were mine I wouldn't care. lol
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The link in the post above yours in this thread. Is a link to the rom scroll up one post
Giggles
AliceInUnderland said:
kjy2010 said:
If you stick with a stock pre-rooted ROM, you won't get stuck in a bootloop like you do some phones. You're just doing an upgrade.
But like doing an upgrade to any other OS without formatting first, you're writing good data over bad, so your mileage may vary.
I can't seem to find any pre-rooted stock Roms on the Developers forum. Links? I know I'm probably being a pain in the ass but I really don't want to get something by mistake and start with scratch on my mom's tablet - if it were mine I wouldn't care. lol
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
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kjy2010 said:
AliceInUnderland said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
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Oh my god you rock, thanks so much!
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kjy2010 said:
Oh my god you rock, thanks so much!
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Yw
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kjy2010 said:
AliceInUnderland said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1290318
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Okay, this sent her into a bootloop so I had to nandroid. I wiped dalvik cache before installing this. Put it in the root of my SD card and installed via CWM in recovery. what am I doing wrong?
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kjy2010 said:
Okay, this sent her into a bootloop so I had to nandroid. I wiped dalvik cache before installing this. Put it in the root of my SD card and installed via CWM in recovery. what am I doing wrong?
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I've never heard of the A500 going into a bootloop simply from flashing one rooted stock ROM to another, but then again most people do all the necessary wipes when they do. Did you wipe dalvik and battery stats? That's about as minimal as you're going to get. If that doesn't work, you'll just have to flash the proper way. Instructions here complete with a video tutorial on how to flash by yours truly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390860
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kjy2010 said:
AliceInUnderland said:
I've never heard of the A500 going into a bootloop simply from flashing one rooted stock ROM to another, but then again most people do all the necessary wipes when they do. Did you wipe dalvik and battery stats? That's about as minimal as you're going to get. If that doesn't work, you'll just have to flash the proper way. Instructions here complete with a video tutorial on how to flash by yours truly:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1390860
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Nevermind, I fixed it XD I wiped dalvik and battery/partition and it worked fine lol.
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kjy2010 said:
Nevermind, I fixed it XD I wiped dalvik and battery/partition and it worked fine lol.
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Uh huh....you're welcome!
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Hi all,
It seems I must have deleted the gingerbread nandroid backup I did before moving to ICS a while ago. There is now a need for me to move to GB for a few hours whilst I test something out.
Is anyone able to either:
- Point me in the direction of instructions on how to revert back to GB
or
- upload a STOCK GB nandroid that I can restore via cwm
thanks!
Have you looked in the development section? I'm sure there's stock GB ROMs available to just download and flash. I don't think anyone's gonna give you an actual nandroid as you'd then be logged into their account.
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Have you looked in the development section? I'm sure there's stock GB ROMs available to just download and flash. I don't think anyone's gonna give you an actual nandroid as you'd then be logged into their account.
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Is it safe to just flash a lower version ROM.. I was under the impression that it wasnt hence the request..
Just backup whatever you're on right now.
And do a FULL WIPE in CWM.
Then flash a GB ROM.
You can run (mostly) any ROM regardless of what your kernel, radio baseband.
You can't downgrade only when you do official updates like OTA.
adaimespechip said:
Is it safe to just flash a lower version ROM.. I was under the impression that it wasnt hence the request..
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Yes. Make a backup first and make sure you format /system and /boot along with the factory reset. And of course if you use Titanium don't restore any system data.
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Yes. Make a backup first and make sure you format /system and /boot along with the factory reset. And of course if you use Titanium don't restore any system data.
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jk0l said:
Just backup whatever you're on right now.
And do a FULL WIPE in CWM.
Then flash a GB ROM.
You can run (mostly) any ROM regardless of what your kernel, radio baseband.
You can't downgrade only when you do official updates like OTA.
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Cheers guys, thanks for this!