Just had a though and wondered if anyone had tried it.
We know when we take a sim card out and boot up WP7 it boots as if it a virgin install.
So my question is if we were to reflash the phone with a second sim card can we then insert the original sim card after the install completes to save us losing all the data and settings?
Has anyone tried this?
EDIT: I meant SD Card not sim card
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If anyone is going to install the new rom would it be possible that you could insert a second sim when reflashing and after the flash it complete reinsert your old original sim and see if it works and keeps your old settings?
If not it will only need a reset to reformat the original sim so nothing to lose in trying this, I would try myself but I have too much on my sim to lose at the moment and cannot try until weekend as I need my phone through the week.
Thanks
ShaGGy_UK said:
Just had a though and wondered if anyone had tried it.
We know when we take a sim card out and boot up WP7 it boots as if it a virgin install.
So my question is if we were to reflash the phone with a second sim card can we then insert the original sim card after the install completes to save us losing all the data and settings?
Has anyone tried this?
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whoops, didnt mean to hit thanks! oh well, one for your collection!
from my point of view it wont work, the SIM being there or not wont make the blindest bit of difference when you flash it, the installer will wack anything on the SD card, which is the only place that could keep the data intact
if your looking for backup wait a while, Windows phone device manager will soon have a backup program built in to it, your phone will need to be unlocked as its not MS supported but other than that it should backup you data and your app data allowing you to flash to your hearts content, and keep your data.
i dont know if it will install apps again though, i suspect not, but its progress!
You got a thanks back
What I meant was, if you power down your WP7 and remover the sim the phone boots up perfectly but none of your contacts are there or emails and preferences.
If you the power down and re insert the sim your phone boots up as normal with all your settings.
So if we reflash using a different sim card the after the flash is complete, power down the phone remove the sim card and replace it with the one you were using before the reflash, would it not use the setting stored on the older sim card?
I have the manager registered so will use that when its out but this was just an idea and wondered if anyone has tried it.
(power down your phone and remove the sim and power up and you will see what my logic is )
DOH I meant SD card not sim (brain dead )
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DOH I meant SD card not sim (brain dead )
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ahh, yes now that makes a lot more sense!
ill check, i plan on reflashing on sunday to update to NoDo, i need to backup all my app data first just incase so it will need to wait until then, you would probably need to make sure the old SD card was the same size as the new one, just incase it checks that out.
It won't work... I bought some SD cards last week and swapped them out and if the info on the phone doesn't match the info on the card, it won't keep the info each time you restart...
For instance, if you insert new sd, get the green theme like a new phone, change to orange theme, turn phone off and on, it goes back to green as its still looking for original card...
Thanks for letting us know, its a pity as it would make reflashing so much easier
Technically it won't work anyway as the sdcard would be part of the raid set that wp7 makes. You cannot just take data from one raid set and add it to another.
The sdcard in wp7 is not just used as additional storage it is treated as one big lump.
norgan said:
Technically it won't work anyway as the sdcard would be part of the raid set that wp7 makes. You cannot just take data from one raid set and add it to another.
The sdcard in wp7 is not just used as additional storage it is treated as one big lump.
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now that isnt quite true,i say quite because doing this doesnt means its just takeing it from the SD card but the idea is the same, ive done a manual backup of the data from the SD card, visible through Windows phone device manager, ie, ive gone through the application folder and copied the IsolatedStore of the programs i wanted to keep the data for.
it does mean that i still need to install the app, but i can just copy the IsolatedStore back to the correct folder which will give back all the data and original settings before the reflash.
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So after I flashed WP7, everything works fine. But whenever I turn off the phone (long press end call key) and open it again the next day. All my settings are gone (i.e. Hard reset without me doing anything). Also same thing happens when I change my regional settings and click that link to reboot my phone. Why is this? Hope someone can helpme out.
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EVERYTHING IS WORKING. Data is saved after reboots.
Steps:
1. Flash WP7 like usual WITH SD card inserted
2. Wait for WP7 to load up.
3. Physically REMOVE SD card from phone.
4. Restart phone
5. When phone is booting up (white HTC screen). Put back in the SD card
6. You should then see the WP7 setup screen.
I hope this helps out other people who had similar problems with stock hd2 2GB SD card.
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Arref said:
So after I flashed WP7, everything works fine. But whenever I turn off the phone (long press end call key) and open it again the next day. All my settings are gone (i.e. Hard reset without me doing anything). Why is this? Hope someone can helpme out.
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sorry for the stupid q, but do you have an sd-card inserted into your phone? cause it seems like you don't. wp7 uses sd card for some off system files.
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sorry for the stupid q, but do you have an sd-card inserted into your phone? cause it seems like you don't. wp7 uses sd card for some off system files.
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yup, SD card is in. Pretty sure it's compatible (According to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912904 it's). I've got the stock HD2 SanDisk microSD_2 GB.
i have exactly same problems did you ever figure it out?
thanks
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yup, SD card is in. Pretty sure it's compatible (According to this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=912904 it's). I've got the stock HD2 SanDisk microSD_2 GB.
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i bet its not compatible, this sounds like the shipped 2gb card and i had the same problems like many others with the shipped sd card
-> have you got the first start steps?
i think no
remove your sd card, go to settings, info and reset your phone
after this everything will work (until your storage is gone)
HM
God i hate this :[
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i bet its not compatible, this sounds like the shipped 2gb card and i had the same problems like many others with the shipped sd card
-> have you got the first start steps?
i think no
remove your sd card, go to settings, info and reset your phone
after this everything will work (until your storage is gone)
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Yeah i've heard about the stock sd card being a pain, going to try your suggestion.
Everything is working. I've listed what I've done in my original first post.
Hey there,
I was just wondering if we are able to change an sd card without losing the configuration and apps.
Is it possible to make an image of the complete old (small) sd, then restore this to a bigger one with resizing the data partition to fit the bigger sd card.
Anybody tried this?
thanks,
Neo
It's a good idea,but have a lot of data in sd card now.
Have anyone try it that just flash wp7 on HD2 or other dev.
Sorry 4 my English
Hmmm, intresting idea, i would say the first step is to try a complete copy, i mean, lets assume you have a 4GB SD card, go get another one and ghost it to the new one, exactly the same partitions and content.
if that works the next step would then be trying to edit the partition table to increase its size to a bigger card.
If thats possible i think the only other sticking point would be the OS its self
Someone has had an intresting experience on here which may suggest WP7 has some kind of recovery/safe mode, basically the chap did something to his SD card, he restarted and all of his apps an data were all gone, restarted again and it was all back again.
it was almost as if WP saw there was a difference, stopped its self to check everything was ok then carried on as normal.
Dont for a second assume you can back up your data doing this though, a hard reset on the phone would render the data on the card useless
Hi everyone my first post and probably a stupid one at that... anyway I have three SD cards all locked after failed upgrades and would like to unlock and reformat them on my HD2 now with a successful upgrade to Mango 7.5. Could someone tell me the procedure for doing so, because the storage unlock won't work when the current Micro SD card is removed from the phone before or after booting Mango.
I know one of the locked cards is compatible but is locked due to an outage during one of my previous upgrade attempts, its 16 gig and I would like to replace the current 2g for larger storage. If the 16gig card was unlocked would this even be possible without having to reflash everything?
thanks for your help...
The encryption is unique to each device, that means you can't take a SD card and format it in another WP7.
I don't know if the seed is generated randomly or based on read only values (IMEI?) but my best guess would be that you will have to use one of the methods described in this thread.
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Hi everyone my first post and probably a stupid one at that... anyway I have three SD cards all locked after failed upgrades and would like to unlock and reformat them on my HD2 now with a successful upgrade to Mango 7.5. Could someone tell me the procedure for doing so, because the storage unlock won't work when the current Micro SD card is removed from the phone before or after booting Mango.
I know one of the locked cards is compatible but is locked due to an outage during one of my previous upgrade attempts, its 16 gig and I would like to replace the current 2g for larger storage. If the 16gig card was unlocked would this even be possible without having to reflash everything?
thanks for your help...
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starting with the 2Gb one that is in the phone.
1.Send extrapartition 1Gb cab.
2.do hard reset (1234)and check in settings/about if partition is applied
3. unlock the storage using storagelock tool and remove card, check you can read card in pc.
4 put in second card. do1234 hard reset
5 do step 3 again
6 put in your biggest bestest card and do 1234 hardreset.
7 send extrapartition remove cab and 1234 hard reset
then you can send a bigger extrapartition, I have 7Gb on my 16Gb SD
8 You can then in pc use gparted in linux or Easeus partition master in windows to resize and format your spare sd cards
Thanks for that, i was sure that because all three cards were created and failed within the same phone then at least one would unlock, is there not a method to take out the present sd card swap with the locked one, run the storage unlock reboot then reformat but not necessary in the order as i have tried that and it hasn't worked, i don't have access to any other phones and really need the increased storage and a card to run some android SD builds. In respect of the last question if i was to get a compatible 32gig card could i just swap it out with the 2gig or copy the 2 gig partition and put in on the 32gig without having to go back to 6.5 and do the update all over again... i don't know... i am a bit lost with all this and its a steep learning curve..
Thanks Robbie, just what i was looking for will give it a try and let you know how i get on.. you answered my question in the middle of me typing it.. strange!!!!
Robbie P said:
starting with the 2Gb one that is in the phone.
1.Send extrapartition 1Gb cab.
2.do hard reset (1234)and check in settings/about if partition is applied
3. unlock the storage using storagelock tool and remove card, check you can read card in pc.
4 put in second card. do1234 hard reset
5 do step 3 again
6 put in your biggest bestest card and do 1234 hardreset.
7 send extrapartition remove cab and 1234 hard reset
then you can send a bigger extrapartition, I have 7Gb on my 16Gb SD
8 You can then in pc use gparted in linux or Easeus partition master in windows to resize and format your spare sd cards
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Just a quick update to say that those instructions worked a treat, I how have more storage a few extra cards to try out some SD builds before I take the plunge for the dual boot. I think where I was getting confused was the difference between the (1234) hard rest and the hold vol - & + buttons while turning on the phone on reset. Robbie once again many thanks bro…
Wow I didn't think it was possible to save your sd cards after they been ruined through failed attempts...
I thought the unlock tool was only useful for the sd card that successfully upgrade to mango
Moschino02 said:
Wow I didn't think it was possible to save your sd cards after they been ruined through failed attempts...
I thought the unlock tool was only useful for the sd card that successfully upgrade to mango
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Yeah me also, that’s why I have been pulling my hair over this for the last couple of weeks, but it does work…. it’s just fining the right procedure and because all the cards were created on the same phone (EU Leo unlocked TM) I think that makes a difference. The other two cards I now know are incompatible so they have become my storage for android SD builds... I don’t think people are aware of this, maybe it should be a sticky or something… with credit to Robbie
Robbie P said:
3. unlock the storage using storagelock tool and remove card, check you can read card in pc.
4 put in second card. do1234 hard reset
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hey plant man, can you just clarify something ..
do we send dev_unlock.cab after step2?
storagelock tool?? where will we find this on the phone?
step 4 - when you insert another corrupt card into phone would phone load up ?
i wonder what are the reasons behind step 1 - does this vary depending on what type of sd card memory you have?
luckily i borrowed a sony vivaz but needs to go back and i havnt got mango yet..i imagine this trick would work on all versions ie 7403?
off the topic..cab sender option 'B' anyone know if this would restore to orginial state ie 7004 if cab sending failed? to prevent from reflashing 7004 all the ***ing time
sorry for the questions...i cant do anything without understanding things first
Moschino02 said:
hey plant man, can you just clarify something ..
do we send dev_unlock.cab after step2? you don't need to do chevron type unlock for this. you are getting confused with your locks see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1265321 for explanations
storagelock tool?? where will we find this on the phone? next to where you found extrapartion, see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1250869 post 1
step 4 - when you insert another corrupt card into phone would phone load up ?
It will if SD is encrypted but compatible
i wonder what are the reasons behind step 1 - does this vary depending on what type of sd card memory you have?
because minimum size=minimum download and install time also Plant100 had a 2Gb card to start
luckily i borrowed a sony vivaz but needs to go back and i havnt got mango yet..i imagine this trick would work on all versions ie 7403?
off the topic..cab sender option 'B' anyone know if this would restore to orginial state ie 7004 if cab sending failed? to prevent from reflashing 7004 all the ***ing time
yes but do it before you send the partition as any change of partition size will render backup unrestorable. After you have set up your good sd and everything is fine, do a backup then
sorry for the questions...i cant do anything without understanding things first
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No worries
hey plant man, can you just clarify something ..
do we send dev_unlock.cab after step2? no just send once
storagelock tool?? where will we find this on the phone? you need to send it as a cab file with the cab sender tool can be found on the main thread
step 4 - when you insert another corrupt card into phone would phone load up ? yes for some reason when you do a hard rest
i wonder what are the reasons behind step 1 - does this vary depending on what type of sd card memory you have? i have no idea maybe robbie might be able to advise
luckily i borrowed a sony vivaz but needs to go back and i havnt got mango yet..i imagine this trick would work on all versions ie 7403? again not sure
off the topic..cab sender option 'B' anyone know if this would restore to orginial state ie 7004 if cab sending failed? to prevent from reflashing 7004 all the ***ing time dido
sorry for the questions...i cant do anything without understanding things first
Hi,
is there a chance for a xap version of DEV_STORAGELOCK ?
Regards
Hey, I want to upgrade memory card, now I have some sandisk 2Gb, regular card... and I want to have little bit more space and speed...
So, how can I replace this card without resetting the phone and loosing all of my apps and settings? is there any trick?
Thank you
Angelus1984 said:
Hey, I want to upgrade memory card, now I have some sandisk 2Gb, regular card... and I want to have little bit more space and speed...
So, how can I replace this card without resetting the phone and loosing all of my apps and settings? is there any trick?
Thank you
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you are going to have to hard reset the phone anyway. You could try to (B)ackup and send any inoffensive cab using cab sender beforehand, but because of the different size it probably wont work (no harm trying though, especially if your bigger card is incompatible, then you can (R)estore to your 2Gb).
If you haven't named your phone 5 times in zune then it will restore your apps though not your games progress (search, it may now be possible, same for SMS)
Oh i nearly forgot, if you want your 2Gb card useable again you might want to add a partition and storage unlock it (but do it after you (b)ackup) unless you know someone with a nokia
thanks m8 ) I have now 8GB Adata class 2, and it's not working really good, sometimes it just appears message that this card is changed, fault or something and I need to do hard reset... I also have sandisk 2GB original, and it was working quite good, until today, it show me same error as Adata, after I pooled out my SIM card -.- I guess I will have to buy another card...
Anyways thank you for your answer and help
look in this topic for find compatible cards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914780
Nice info, i´m about to do the same and this just helped me.. thanks.
dxdy said:
look in this topic for find compatible cards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914780
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Hi, yeah I know about that thread, I bought Adata 16GB class 10 earlier today and it's working fine for now, hope it will stay this way.
al svejedno, hvala ti
Robbie P said:
you are going to have to hard reset the phone anyway. You could try to (B)ackup and send any inoffensive cab using cab sender beforehand, but because of the different size it probably wont work (no harm trying though, especially if your bigger card is incompatible, then you can (R)estore to your 2Gb).
If you haven't named your phone 5 times in zune then it will restore your apps though not your games progress (search, it may now be possible, same for SMS)
Oh i nearly forgot, if you want your 2Gb card useable again you might want to add a partition and storage unlock it (but do it after you (b)ackup) unless you know someone with a nokia
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good point op im dual booting with 4gb but i need to upgrade
let me get this straight all we have to do is stick a new sd card in and hard reset?? is that all? i got nothing to back up by the way??
i presume we have to set up dual boot through storage lock etc
Moschino02 said:
good point op im dual booting with 4gb but i need to upgrade
let me get this straight all we have to do is stick a new sd card in and hard reset?? is that all? i got nothing to back up by the way??
i presume we have to set up dual boot through storage lock etc
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Yes, new card in then hard reset.
If you want the smaller one back, you have to send the smallest (1Gb) partition and storage unlock it first. Then new card in and hard reset. your new card will have the same partition set up on it, you will have to remove this first if you want to try and (R)estore. Then set up any size partition you want.
At least I think you have to have a partition on your SD for storagelock to open. Somebody might try just storage-unlocking the sd and check on pc whether it is readable (200mb).
Hi,
I have question , I installed the a NAND ROM using 4GB SD card but I need more space so I purchased new SD with 8GB space.
How can I transfer the part of ROM installed on the SD from the old one to the newly purchased one without losing any data.
If I were in your shoes, I'd make a full backup of my Current ROM with the old sd in. Then, I'd insert the new card and restore the back up. (of course after making the required partition).
Marvlesz said:
If I were in your shoes, I'd make a full backup of my Current ROM with the old sd in. Then, I'd insert the new card and restore the back up. (of course after making the required partition).
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But when removing the old one for replacing with new the phone hang
Also I tried using Mini Tools partition wizard but not working (if the Ext3 work the other Fat32 not work and vice versa) Don't know what to do and I don't want to reinstall the ROM
msdn70 said:
But when removing the old one for replacing with new the phone hang
Also I tried using Mini Tools partition wizard but not working (if the Ext3 work the other Fat32 not work and vice versa) Don't know what to do and I don't want to reinstall the ROM
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The phone will not hang if you've got the ROM correctly on NAND. Also, try making both partitions primary, and windows on the pc will not be able to read the ext partition.
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The phone will not hang if you've got the ROM correctly on NAND. Also, try making both partitions primary, and windows on the pc will not be able to read the ext partition.
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I marked the both partitions primary but still having the same problem.
Please I need help here..
TIA
msdn70 said:
I marked the both partitions primary but still having the same problem.
Please I need help here..
TIA
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Is the phone hanging during boot or after?
jiggyk said:
Is the phone hanging during boot or after?
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After the phone Normal boot when I removed the SD card the phone hang that what happens..
Are you just saying that you are removing the sdcard card while your phone is booted and android active? I hope not..
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greg17477 said:
Are you just saying that you are removing the sdcard card while your phone is booted and android active? I hope not..
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App
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That's what he is trying to say, unfortunately.
msdn70 said:
After the phone Normal boot when I removed the SD card the phone hang that what happens..
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Why are you removing it while the device is on?
You should do this:
Keep Original SD card in
Boot Phone into CWM and make a back up
After it finishes, Turn off phone, put old sd card in PC, copy recent back up there, remove old and put new sd in pc and copy the back up to it
After making the partition on the new sd, put it (the new card) in your phone and boot up
Go to CWM, and restore your recently made backup
after it's done, reboot phone normally
Also, do not remove the sd-card while the phone is active ..
Because we, eu users, need some system files to be on the card and by removing it the device may become inoperative .
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That's what he is trying to say, unfortunately.
Why are you removing it while the device is on?
You should do this:
Keep Original SD card in
Boot Phone into CWM and make a back up
After it finishes, Turn off phone, put old sd card in PC, copy recent back up there, remove old and put new sd in pc and copy the back up to it
After making the partition on the new sd, put it (the new card) in your phone and boot up
Go to CWM, and restore your recently made backup
after it's done, reboot phone normally
Also, do not remove the sd-card while the phone is active ..
Because we, eu users, need some system files to be on the card and by removing it the device may become inoperative .
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I did exactly as you told me to do but when boot the phone it keep restarting in the white HTC screen!!
I tested two partition size 2GB and 4GB and both gave same result
msdn70 said:
I did exactly as you told me to do but when boot the phone it keep restarting in the white HTC screen!!
I tested two partition size 2GB and 4GB and both gave same result
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Sorry for late response.
Are you sure you are setting the exact partitions on your sd-card with the same settings?