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Chaps,
My other half uses her O2 xda Exec with a work supplied 3G vodafone SIM. It works fine in the UK and she did a good job getting it set up with the right 3G UK vodafone settings etc- well done her!
Question is...
She's now working in the USA for a few days. The xda has found a network and can use it - great stuff but no 3G....
How can she determine what network its using over there - is this selectable somewhere (I couldn't find the option)?
Based on the network what would the settings be to allow her to use 3G!? Anyone help?
Thanks
USA doesn't have 3G. It's also why the universal isnt popular in USA. I feel sorry for em. :lol:
RyanZA said:
USA doesn't have 3G. It's also why the universal isnt popular in USA. I feel sorry for em. :lol:
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Oh bugger! You mean we're ahead of America on something!?
I can't believe silicon valley doesn't have 3G, I guess they have wireless hotspot all over....
T-Mobile US have mumbled something about enabling UMTS "in 2006" but I rather want to see it than hear about it.
The rest of the US carriers use fancy 1xRTT data protocols over CDMA networks - not compatible with GSM. People in the US still wonder what the "G" stands for ;-)
Blame it on our military. Those bands are owned by the US Gov. Just recently I have heard news of businesses getting access to those bands. And there was much rejoicing...
who ever said the us doesn't have 3G?
i live in houston and when i got the universal i did some reaserch:
i found that verison wireless has 3G on their devices, but they dont use sim cards, so they wont help...
but i now have cingular wireless, and it works great, but it is a bit pricy...
i believe about $45 per month...
so if you were just going to visit the us, then i would sugest to you that you go with t-mobile using the GPRS,
yes i know it is slow, but if you are only going to be using it for a little bit i think it would be fine. I believe the GPRS is $19.99.
so it really depends if you really think you need the 3G service...
if you dont think so then get GPRS, the exec can use it, and its not all that bad
It is true that the US does not have 3G but your Tri-Band GSM device will work perfectly fine. With the proper settings you can even surfe the WEB at 32k just no high speed for things like video calls.
I use my Exec quite often in various places in the US without any problems.
I just read on AT&T's website that they consider 6Mb/s to be their 4G.
This means that our 4G devices will never be any faster than the iPhone 4 which supports up to 7.2Mb/s.
When I bought my Atrix I was under the assumption that they would eventually make use of the HSPA+ that the phone supports.
If the iPhone 4 is a 3G device then so is the Atrix.
Dear AT&T,
Thanks for lying and using trickery to attract customers. You suck.
PS hurry up and at least enable HSUPA
For all those that don't know, when they enable HSUPA this will not speed up our download connection speed, only the upload. So don't expect much.
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Link to where they say its 6? I thought it was 14 or so. Forgive me if I don't believe its only 6
Nvm. Just read it. Normal 3G is 7.2. Not HSPA+. HSPA+ has a maximum of 14mbps. 3g is 7.2
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I was on the phone with AT&T Business today about other issues, and asked about the "4G".
The rep seemed very well informed, told me no towers in my area have dates assigned to them for upgrade to 4G yet, and that I still have some which are not even 3G capable. She also told me they are trying to get their "4G" to everyone by the end of the year, and the download speed is 20mbps. This was a lengthy conversation, much more involved than this short description, but it was very interesting to talk to a rep who actually new technical stuff.
Also read somewhere that enabling HSUPA will decrease latency which will also increase download speed. Not sure about that, though.
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PixoNova said:
Also read somewhere that enabling HSUPA will decrease latency which will also increase download speed. Not sure about that, though.
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i read that also but cant put on finger on where it was
brian2220 said:
i read that also but cant put on finger on where it was
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSUPA
We'll get category 6 HSUPA. even says HSUPA will decrease latency. Which means we'll be seeing i4 or even higher speeds.
OP. Overreact much? Especially over misinformation.
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http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947
This says in the 'Just how fast is AT&T 4G' faq "AT&T is seeing network speeds up to approximately 6Mbps"
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What the network is capable of delivering and the maximum speed the device supports are two different things. Both the Inspire and the Atrix have radios that can pull up to 14.4 Mbps if the network is able to provide it.
plvaulter06 said:
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947
This says in the 'Just how fast is AT&T 4G' faq "AT&T is seeing network speeds up to approximately 6Mbps"
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THe key word in that statement is "approximately" 6mpbs, it is just marketing. You will barely ever see the full speeds of "4g" due to the physics of networks.
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This means that our 4G devices will never be any faster than the iPhone 4 which supports up to 7.2Mb/s.
Ha! Iphone 4? The 3gs is capable of 7.2. So all we got was a 3g phone with dual core that is locked down by att and moto. If I could pull 6 mbs on a regular I would be really happy with that. I avg about 700 kbps.
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like sifon said... and i wouldn't even exactly call it a "marketing" term. It's just going the logical route. They say approximately 6Mbps.... because if they say something like "You will expect to see 10Mbps".... then imagine how many calls they're going to get from people complaining cause they're ONLY getting 6Mbps. And i don't even see why people are complaining about THAT! 6Mbps? on a PHONE?!? Just a few years ago, 5Mbps was the fastest broadband internet connection via cable in my area. 6Mbps is probably still faster than a lot of broadband connections here in the US (except for that one city that's going to be getting Google's gigabit fiber optic internet connection.... lucky f*ckers).
And yes... when they enable HSUPA, we will probably (see? if i said "will" here, me and anyone quoting me would probably get flamed like crazy if it didn't come to pass) see a lot lower latencies and higher download speeds than we currently are. As we all know, internet connections are a two way thing. If you can't get information TO the servers, you won't get it FROM them either.
I have 4g download speed in my neighborhood. (luck me! ) I pull 4 on average, and 5 rarely. 6 is a marketing speed. You will never see 6.
what are your upload speeds?
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what are your upload speeds?
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They're obviously .33 still. HSUPA isn't enabled on our phones yet. Not until we get that HSUPA update.
Also, can anyone confirm whether it's 14 Mbps, or 20/22? I keep seeing different numbers tossed around, and I can't be sure anymore.
my phone says H+ on it and 5 bars yet download speed says 500-600 kbps and upload is right around 100. on my wifi at home i have clearwire and i get 3 megs down 1 meg up and my phone says it gets the same 3md/1mu when its hooked up to wifi. do i neeg to go get a different sim card for my atrix? ATT told me i dont need one because the 4G network wont be out for another 6 months to a year (which is misinformation, we have it in seattle AFAIK). but even w/ 3G i should be pulling A LOT faster than that right?
i can pull 5.5 with a captivate
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i can pull 5.5 with a captivate
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i can pull that down and more with my atrix whats ur point ?
Think the point is that with a 4G phone, if you're in a 4G area, you WOULD be pulling a lot more.... but due to not having fast uploads, download speeds are crippled.
the problem here is that with AT&T's 'enhanced back-haul program' they are only planning on buying some additional bandwidth and speed (raising it to 6Mbps) for each tower's individual internet connection. So even if the tower is using HSPA+ to transmit data to our phones, it is only going to be as fast as the internet connection that the tower has.
Its like using a really nice Wireless router, and wireless card. While it is nice, it doesn't make your connection speed any faster than an older model of router and card that could already handle your internet connection.
I really hope I'm wrong, but anyone who tells you that your Atrix is going to have a 20Mbps mobile data connection from AT&T is just blowing smoke up your @$$.
Interesting facts:
128 HSPA+ network in 65 countries including:
95 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 21 Mbps
11 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 28 Mbps
22 HSPA+ networks offering peak rates of 42 Mbps
Here is something very interesting for the future:
Radio over Fiber (RoF) Communication System - supposedly has d/l rate of 20Gb/s and is equal to the speed of optic fiber. Could be available in 10 years to the public.
I live in Australia and am on the Vodafone 3G/ HSPA network.
Just got this speed on my One X international version.
Anyone else getting speeds this high on 3G? Who needs 4G with almost 1MB/sec on 3G
Here's mine. It's supposed to be 2M/sec so I think thats good.
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Well i've got mine set to Bytes not bits. In your units mine is 7.5 Mb/sec. I'm not complaining.....just thought it was pretty darn good.
Mine is 1 Mb/ sec
I changed the settings and got these results. 285,2kB/s down and 56kB/s up.
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anyone else want to chime in?>
I download file on the speed 350kb/s in 3.5G
My sister on Talk Mobile which runs off Vodafone, fastest I've ever seen on mobile networks here in the UK. I get similar on my Vodafone sim but she's got unlimited data.
These speeds are at home most places in London you'd be lucky to even get half of that.
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The highest I've got was 3.61 up, and 1.1 down!
6640kbps downlink / 747kbps uplink
T-Mobile Hungary, Desire DHD, Absolution 3.7 ROM
Question
How do you get this values (downlink / uplink) ? Is there a good benchmark for mobile phones? My provider promised to me a maximum of 7,2 Mbit/s - I don't believe it!
Best regards
TT from LE
Just to say that I'm running the new Tmobile US version of this phone with an Orange UK Sim card and it is running very fast in London. Orange already trialing 4G LTE offering here, and I'm usually reaching speeds of 8 MB downloads 2.5 to 3 MB uploads.
BUT... I still really want UMA/ Wfi calling to work... Orange have refused to let UK Galaxy S3 users have a firmware update that would allow UMA. This is very strange as they do have UMA calling for all-blackberries for example many other android phones.
My phone has UMA enabled for the US T mobile Sim card, which is fantastic i can call the US free from London. It's just too bad I don't have settings for Orange UK UMA...
I don't think those are LTE speeds, I get 13.5 meg down on Three UK in many places around London.
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Over Clocker said:
I don't think those are LTE speeds, I get 13.5 meg down on Three UK in many places around London.
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Wish I lived in London, I struggle for 3meg download on Three, a few miles out of York. In York center I get 8-9 meg.
aha! Someone had to burst my buble!
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Wish I lived in London, I struggle for 3meg download on Three, a few miles out of York. In York center I get 8-9 meg.
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So it sounds like you must be kidding myself. I guess I consider anything over 10 MB really for 4G? As everything everywhere will only really be doing the slower version of 4G LTE (21 MB or so?)
Isint that kind of low? I get 9 mbits /sec speed with my 9300 international version in hspa+ in District capitals here in Portugal. With a lte capable phone we get 60/70 mbit per second in speed tests.
Last I heard, the T999 didn't have LTE enabled as T-Mobile US have not rolled it out yet. Likely has hardware support, since it should functionally be the same hardware as the AT&T variant, but that doesn't help you much.
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Exactly, it supports 42 mbits /sec. Hspa+, check http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III
US T999 Running at 15MB Speeds London / UK
Badelhas said:
Exactly, it supports 42 mbits /sec. Hspa+, check http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S_III
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Correct, this is HSPA+. I am now seeing 15m+, so a big improvement. EE/Orange currently offer 3.5G HSPA+ 21, and '4G' =HSPA+ 42. I do not believe that Orange will roll out true 4G beyond 42mb for sometime.
Honestly, Anything over 2 MB that is consistent is fantastic...
Hi guys, I have a pay monthly sim which is from T-mobile and it will end in 4 Months and i am waiting for Samsung s4 release. Basically which network provider is better? I want to swap to Three because they have cheap and good plan for the S4.. What is your experience with this network provider? Do they have fast internet? are they better than T-mobile?
Regards.
LTE has been deployed in a few cities already and the DC-HSPA speeds are pretty good. Not sure about Three though as I've never really heard of them. LTE speeds seem to be consistently 20Mbps down and around 30-50msec pings from the screenshots I've seen for KC and Vegas. And getting the $30 5GB plan is really good.
I assume you're talking about the UK? Three aren't rolling out 4g until q4 of this year, tmobile will never roll out 4g, you need to go to EE for that. Three's dchspa is great from my experience-
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Jme369 said:
I assume you're talking about the UK? Three aren't rolling out 4g until q4 of this year, tmobile will never roll out 4g, you need to go to EE for that. Three's dchspa is great from my experience-
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Oh duh. lol
Tmobile just launched 4G Lte march 27th.
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I have a Nexus 4 on Three currently, using their £12.90 plan with AYCE data, speeds seem to fluctuate alot for me, between 0.5Mbps and 12Mbps in the same room of my house, depending on the day. Ping times are lower than 100ms 80% of the time, so fast page loading. My Mum is on T-Mobile (using an iPhone 4 so no DC-HSDPA, not sure if T-Mobile support it anyway) and her speeds are never higher than 2Mbps down with 200ms ping, haven't tried her sim in my phone so can't comment on if it's phone related or network, but what I suggest is get a Three payg sim, top it up with a bit of credit and check the speeds in your area, also check their coverage map as they don't have a 2G backup everywhere (only rural places with little to no 3G)