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Nexus One Performs Like 4G

I did a test with my nexus one and G2, I don't know how but my Nexus still out performed my G2 Am I Glad To Be An Owner Of A Nexus1
Nexus One:
DL-4.46
UL-0.99
G2
DL-3.74
UL-1.37
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I live in a suburb of Boston and have great HSPA+ service. My N1 is getting on average during peak hours 4.2 DL and a constant 1.3 UL. I am very happy with those numbers. T-Mobile has a solid Network and blows away AT&T, Sprint and Verizon in my area. I live only 10 miles out of Boston and one mile away from RT 128. Suppose to be strong areas for all the Carriers.
Thank You T-Mobile.

Confused
If the T-mobile or Att network your using has an average of 7.2mbps or less, wont the Nexus One get the exact same download speed as any HSPA+ phone?
The only time an HSPA+ phone would ever "outpace" the N1 in download speed would be if the network is built up past 7.2mbps right? Like if the average speed was 10mbps THEN the HSPA+ would finally kick in but until 7.2mbps the Nexus One will keep up with any HSPA+ phone right?

I didn't know the G2 was LTE enabled
HSDPA+ is 3G btw.

I don't know, my thoughts were G2: better phone, better performance. LOL (Simpled Minded) Huh? It doesn't make sense to buy a 4G phone then! Forget 4G
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LOL at thinking those measly speeds are 4G!
4G speeds are more like 30MB/s down and 15MB/s up.
Look at some of the Verizon LTE (a TRUE 4G network) speed tests.

GldRush98 said:
LOL at thinking those measly speeds are 4G!
4G speeds are more like 30MB/s down and 15MB/s up.
Look at some of the Verizon LTE (a TRUE 4G network) speed tests.
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Well even Verizon's LTE network is still around 7-12 Mbit, not MB/sec... and no where near true "4G."
The ITU's newest standard now allows "evolved 3G technologies" such as HSPA+ to eventually qualify for "4G" nomenclature, but this is still quite some time from now, given that it's roughly 1/10 of the required speed for mobile applications. What's funny, though, is that T-Mobile's HSPA+ is generally faster than Sprint's WiMAX in many areas, despite the fact that under the old classification system WiMAX could eventually become 4G whereas HSPA+ could not.
IMT-Advanced basically became what the old "4G" classification was, including the 100 Mbit mobile and 1 Gbit fixed speed requirements, as well as goodies like VoIP and OFDMA.

Wow Professor Will, So All This Hype About 4G is probably for months or even years to come! I'm not buying another supposedly 4G Phone until its like an guarantee that I see a huge difference in speed!
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wtharden said:
Wow Professor Will, So All This Hype About 4G is probably for months or even years to come! I'm not buying another supposedly 4G Phone until its like an guarantee that I see a huge difference in speed!
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yeah pretty much, i thought it was common knowledge for all of us phone geeks. tmobile's 4g is nothing but 3G HSPA. and unless the towers have enough backhaul to support fast speeds, a 3G phone will perform like a 4G phone until the theoretical limits for each are hit. havent seen that happen anywhere yet in the USA that i can tell. its all gimmic marketing crap.

RogerPodacter said:
yeah pretty much, i thought it was common knowledge for all of us phone geeks. tmobile's 4g is nothing but 3G HSPA. and unless the towers have enough backhaul to support fast speeds, a 3G phone will perform like a 4G phone until the theoretical limits for each are hit. havent seen that happen anywhere yet in the USA that i can tell. its all gimmic marketing crap.
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Call it what you want, I'm very happy with T-Mobile. In my area they are faster then all others. They have the best plans and prices blow all others away. I think if more people gave them a chance they would be very happy. Not to mention they support the Nexus One.

vinnyjr said:
Call it what you want, I'm very happy with T-Mobile. In my area they are faster then all others. They have the best plans and prices blow all others away. I think if more people gave them a chance they would be very happy. Not to mention they support the Nexus One.
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+1 Also, very satisfied with TMobile in my area!

galaxys said:
+1 Also, very satisfied with TMobile in my area!
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+2 dittos.

vinnyjr said:
Call it what you want, I'm very happy with T-Mobile. In my area they are faster then all others. They have the best plans and prices blow all others away. I think if more people gave them a chance they would be very happy. Not to mention they support the Nexus One.
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I'm very impressed with t-mobile and give them all the credit in the world for what they've done with their data speeds. ATT is a joke when it comes to being a leader like that. They do nothing but follow the other carriers and react rather than set the standard. But I'm sad t-mobile started this fake 4g thing.

Extremely satisfied with my Nexus One on TMO. I'm roughly 20 miles north west from northeastern Philly and just like the other users have said T-Mobile has the best coverage in my area compared to Verizon and AT&T. My work phone is a Blackberry Tour running on Verizon's network and the network coverage blows compared to T-Mobile's in my area.
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Rogers in canada is crazy fast... It seems my upload is capped at 1mbit up but download speeds have gotten upwards of 4 even 5 mbit down!
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check out these LTE speeds

Check out the LTE speeds that I get in New Haven, CT on AT&T. I'm using an HTC Vivid and running Rum Float beta 3(ICS w/ sense) Pretty impressive IMHO... ALMOST 39 DOWN/14 UP!!! Check out the attached pic!

MeeGz said:
Check out the LTE speeds that I get in New Haven, CT on AT&T. I'm using an HTC Vivid and running Rum Float beta 3(ICS w/ sense) Pretty impressive IMHO... ALMOST 39 DOWN/14 UP!!! Check out the attached pic!
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Awesome I want this too.

Blimey!!
You guys in the US are so lucky, cant wait till LTE arrives in the UK

Nice. In Poland LTE working fast only in bigger cities.

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amazing!
low latency + high speed

You suck
The best I ever got with verizon LTE with 5 bars right next to a tower is 33mbs DL and 15UL. Yet with 3/5 bars you get 38/14. And I bet it never just drops too. oh why verizon WHY. With 3/5 bars on verizon I avg 8-15mbsDL and 2.5-11mbsUL, with the best being 24/15.
There are times were my H+ S2 can flat out beet my droid RAZR in youtube video loading and keeping it a flowing.
P.S I had no idea Poland had LTE. It's it any good?

NICE. That's a tad bit faster than my FiOs too.
I'm in Hawaii and we always get things last. LOL.

4ktvs said:
You suck
The best I ever got with verizon LTE with 5 bars right next to a tower is 33mbs DL and 15UL. Yet with 3/5 bars you get 38/14. And I bet it never just drops too. oh why verizon WHY. With 3/5 bars on verizon I avg 8-15mbsDL and 2.5-11mbsUL, with the best being 24/15.
There are times were my H+ S2 can flat out beet my droid RAZR in youtube video loading and keeping it a flowing.
P.S I had no idea Poland had LTE. It's it any good?
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For the few seconds I had data on with my prepaid plan few minutes after I landed, it was pretty fast, then I had no money eft on my account to call lol.
I didn't check speeds, but it was pretty damn fast. But I was in the capitol at the airport, so it will always be faster lol. But even 3G is pretty fast back in Poland. America is way behind on mobile data.

@OP , Im in Harford, best I ever got was 8Dwn 1Up on HSPA+, wife has LG Nitro HD LTE, will have to give it a try. Was told by a Best Buy Mobile Rep we should be getting LTE any week now. 2 ATT customer service reps on the phone coulnd find a date, but said all LTE markets should be done in the next 2 months.
--in the meantime Im throttled to Edge speed for going over 3GB, I know theres an APN switch for 4G SIM Users, but I'll have to wait.
---GT-P6200 by the way. Galaxy Tab 7.0 Plus (from Malaysia) HSPA+ and voce calling on Honecomb 3.2

awesome!! Faster than my dsl :/

wow! I wish I had these speeds!

faster than my H+ S2, My Droid razr on 4GLTE and my TWC ISP. I would have to add them all up to get what you get. LOL

4ktvs said:
You suck
The best I ever got with verizon LTE with 5 bars right next to a tower is 33mbs DL and 15UL. Yet with 3/5 bars you get 38/14. And I bet it never just drops too. oh why verizon WHY. With 3/5 bars on verizon I avg 8-15mbsDL and 2.5-11mbsUL, with the best being 24/15.
There are times were my H+ S2 can flat out beet my droid RAZR in youtube video loading and keeping it a flowing.
P.S I had no idea Poland had LTE. It's it any good?
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Update your prl
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jaszek said:
For the few seconds I had data on with my prepaid plan few minutes after I landed, it was pretty fast, then I had no money eft on my account to call lol.
I didn't check speeds, but it was pretty damn fast. But I was in the capitol at the airport, so it will always be faster lol. But even 3G is pretty fast back in Poland. America is way behind on mobile data.
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America invented cell phone technology.....let me guess, where behind on space technology and cheeseburger technology too
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that is fast

mkelsho said:
America invented cell phone technology.....let me guess, where behind on space technology and cheeseburger technology too
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You are not too behind, but still behind than some other places
Japan started using 3G in 1998, whereas the US started it in 2002. Also, check this out too: http://en.teknoblog.com/communicati...cell-3g-is-faster-than-4g-networks-in-us.html
As jaszek said, 3G is pretty fast in Europe

Yeah, 3G is quite fast here on Europe but not so fast than the LTE on USA for sure
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HTC Bravo said:
Yeah, 3G is quite fast here on Europe but not so fast than the LTE on USA for sure
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I agree, and even though they say Turkcell has one of the fastest networks available worldwide, and Steve Wozniak's thoughts about the network, I can't really say that its that fast because I used the same network for 4 years. Maybe it was the phones I used, who knows?

Hi,
how about the ping? is the ping always constant 40-50? or also sometimes 100+ or 20?
thx

ATT or TMOBILE?

Hi guys...
I am stoked for this N4 to come into my hand.
which carrier would be a better choice for me?
I live in NYC. thanks.

T mobile you will get much better speed than att
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What he said^^^^
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T-Mo for speed is probably the best.
However for (possibly) a better look at coverage, may I suggest looking at the Root Metrics Coverage Maps or the Sensorly Coverage Maps. They're based on user submitted tests and data that offer a much better look at where reception is good or bad.

T-Mobile is spending a lot of the money ATT gave them to beef up their network. T-Mobile wants to be a viable competitor again. Their Hspa+ is about 3-4 times faster than ATT. With those things said I chose T-Mobile today. In addition to everything I said they also have truly unlimited 4g and they are cheaper.
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it is based on your location, tbh...
Maybe some NYC XDA people will comment on their experiences with both here...

Depends on location. T-Mobile worked great for me and speeds were incredible for HSPA+. But the problem with me was I had no reception in crucial areas, kinda suck if you can't receive calls text at home or some areas at work.
Att allows you to use their post paid plans without signing a contract. And you can try T-Mobiles $30 100 min, unlimited text and data and only be down 30 of it don't work out

AT&T Data Speeds in NYC

I am a resident of NYC and an AT&T subscriber, currently using the Samsung Galaxy S3. LTE coverage in NYC is excellent, and I typically get 25-50 Mbps downstream, depending on the area. However, I've always been a fan of the Nexus line, so I ordered the Nexus 4 from the Play Store when they became available again a couple of days ago. Here's my question: how are AT&T's HSPA+ speeds in NYC? I'm well aware that the N4 is not LTE-enabled (the LTE Band 4 hack will not work in NYC, since AT&T runs LTE on the 700 mHz frequency here), so I'm concerned with going back to slower speeds.
LTE has really spoiled me, to the point where I would be willing (albeit reluctantly) to forgo the untainted Android experience and slow updates if data speeds will be slow.

Turn off LTE and then test your speeds. You will have your answer.
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kgbkny said:
I am a resident of NYC and an AT&T subscriber, currently using the Samsung Galaxy S3. LTE coverage in NYC is excellent, and I typically get 25-50 Mbps downstream, depending on the area. However, I've always been a fan of the Nexus line, so I ordered the Nexus 4 from the Play Store when they became available again a couple of days ago. Here's my question: how are AT&T's HSPA+ speeds in NYC? I'm well aware that the N4 is not LTE-enabled (the LTE Band 4 hack will not work in NYC, since AT&T runs LTE on the 700 mHz frequency here), so I'm concerned with going back to slower speeds.
LTE has really spoiled me, to the point where I would be willing (albeit reluctantly) to forgo the untainted Android experience and slow updates if data speeds will be slow.
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I was curious about this myself. I am in Queens on T-Mobile (out of contract) and get 20 Mbps down and 2.5 Mbps up (faster than TWC).
If T-Mobile is an option, it's worth it! As for AT&T, I have only seen numbers for Straight Talk (via AT&T) and they are not good (less than 10 down).

big gulps huh? said:
Turn off LTE and then test your speeds. You will have your answer.
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This.
You can easily turn off your LTE and test out hspa.
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AT&T's GS3 doesn't have the toggle option to disable LTE. From what I understand, AT&T has also disabled the dialer code to turn off LTE. I'll look into it a bit further.

SpookyTunes said:
I was curious about this myself. I am in Queens on T-Mobile (out of contract) and get 20 Mbps down and 2.5 Mbps up (faster than TWC).
If T-Mobile is an option, it's worth it! As for AT&T, I have only seen numbers for Straight Talk (via AT&T) and they are not good (less than 10 down).
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Unfortunately, T-Mobile is not an option for me, as the data speeds top out at 0.5 Mbps downstream in my area (Bensonhurst). I am actually a former T-Mo subscriber who ended up leaving for AT&T. I get an average of 20-25 Mbps on LTE inside my apartment (up to 50 Mbps outside), so the Nexus 4 would really have to impress me to use it as a daily driver.

Thinking of getting off Verizon and on T-Mobile with nexus 4

I hate how Verizon doesn't support gsm phones, I can't upgrade my plan without loosing my unlimited data, and I can't activate any of the manufacturer version of a device because they only support CDMA.
How is everyone's satisfaction with T-Mobile? That's the only carrier I can go to and I'm in Massachusetts. If anyone can give me a good idea on what the difference in service is like that would be great.
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it depends on where in MA for instance, in the western MA thinks performs well however west Worcester county(ware/w. Brookfield) it's more challenging
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Not sure where you are, but this site helped me a lot when I was doing research on carriers in my area.
http://www.rootmetrics.com/compare-carriers/united-states/worcester/worcester-january-2013/
I took a quick glance there... and it looks pretty bad.
Compared to my area:
http://www.rootmetrics.com/compare-carriers/united-states/sacramento/sacramento-december-2012/
T-Mobile coverage/service is great here.

QUIETLYloud said:
it depends on where in MA for instance, in the western MA thinks performs well however west Worcester county(ware/w. Brookfield) it's more challenging
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i agree, i live in kentucky and i easily use about 6-10gb a month and not having to worry about a data cap is lovely. i have been in a few spotty areas before but for the most part ive always been able to make calls and i havent dropped one yet. ive tried straight talk att here before i went to tmobile and while i did like att service the capped me at 1.5gb and i was only 1 week into the service.
id say look at the places you will be going most and see if tmobile has the coverage there and see if youll be ok with it first, if so make the jump, i did and i havent looked back yet.. im on the $70 unlimited no contract plan

T-No works well in all cities I go to and I have been with them for 7 years or so... check their coverage maps. They are very accurate ...
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My wife and I made the switch from Veriz to T-Mob a few months ago.
There is one big overriding rule. In big population centers... T-Mob is just fine. Building penetration is not as good as Verizon though. Driving around through the lesser populated areas (outskirts and countryside), there is very little (read: none) T-Mob data coverage.
We live in Charlotte, NC and here I am completely happy with the service (data speeds are excellent). But just outside of the metro area, I am roaming. On a trip back to Iowa, the only place we had T-Mobile data was around Des Moines. Outside of Des Moines, we were roaming the whole time (even in Iowa City with population over 80,000).
You can roam with voice and text, and that generally works fine.
You can roam on data (small monthly allowances... depends on data plan) but speeds are very (read: painfully) slow.
But, for us it made sense... It saved us over a thousand dollars a year.
My two cents: If you spend your time in big cities... I'd go for it (or at least try a monthly pre-paid plan). There will be a drop off in coverage compared to verizon, but it is completely tolerable in my opinion.
If you live in (or spend a lot of time) in a small town, or you are on the highway, don't do it if you need data.

I'm really happy with T-Mobile coming from sprint. I live in south Florida and I get full bars almost everywhere I go. Data speed is just awesome I get between 8 to 14 mbps. Compare to sprint in a good day 750 kbps. And plans start at $30 which is what I have!
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I live in Brooklyn, NYC and tmo has been great....well at least to me. Building penetration is lacking, but I can live with that! My speeds are usually great and the $30 data plan takes care of my needs...so for me its perfect!

I live jus north of Boston, Lynn to be exact and have great service. I work in Needham(out skirts of Boston) which I also get great service. My wife's family lives in the south shore (brockton) where the coverage is not so great. I go to the cape every year and the service there is not so great. Both those areas are mainly switching from E to 1 bar on H. Hope this info helps you. Good luck.
Also my wife and friend have att and they get good service jus about everywhere. I don't know how the data speeds are for att but they have better coverage and more expensive than T-Mobile.
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QUIETLYloud said:
it depends on where in MA for instance, in the western MA thinks performs well however west Worcester county(ware/w. Brookfield) it's more challenging
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Lakeville. Its a little southwest if Boston close to Middleborough
And thank you everyone for all the info! I think I can deal with a little less coverage.
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andybfmv96 said:
I hate how Verizon doesn't support gsm phones, I can't upgrade my plan without loosing my unlimited data, and I can't activate any of the manufacturer version of a device because they only support CDMA.
How is everyone's satisfaction with T-Mobile? That's the only carrier I can go to and I'm in Massachusetts. If anyone can give me a good idea on what the difference in service is like that would be great.
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I'm on the south shore and recently switched from vzw to tmo. Factually, the network is worse but there hasn't been a time when I couldn't use the phone. Data speeds are fine and I'm not missing messages or calls. My low usage(save for data) didn't justify the exuberant cost that vzw charges and the limits were annoyingly restricting.
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I made the same decision as you last month and here is what I did.
I bought the n4 and the T-Mobile 30/month plan while I still had my Vzw account. I then tested the network and data in my two week return period Google gives. I then decided it was good and canceled my Vzw account.
Once I canceled Vzw and was on tmobiles 70/month unlimited plan, I started having issues that I personally couldn't live with. Tmobiles data speed are excellent (7-42mbps) however their signal is very spotty and my phone was constantly dropping to edge. I could live with this because of the cost savings, however when i noticed I was getting delayed text (sending and receiving) and phone calls not going through, I really started regretting Vzw which was always solid for me. T-Mobile tech support reminds me of the Citibank commercial "this is Peggy" and it sucks!
I then switched to att cause I love the n4, and was able to sign up contract free which I love. Their speeds are a lot slower, but their coverage is very solid. This is when I started actually becoming angry that the n4 didn't support lte since att has lte in the area and tmobile doesn't.
I work in north attleboro ma and this is just my 2 cents. I personally travel for work sometimes and really didn't want to run into no coverage zones with T-Mobile and not be able to roam. Att is not as good as Vzw, so only time will tell. Worst comes to worst I sign on with Vzw again in the future and get their latest and greatest, would have lost unlimited data regardless. Let me know if you need any more advice
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andybfmv96 said:
I hate how Verizon doesn't support gsm phones, I can't upgrade my plan without loosing my unlimited data, and I can't activate any of the manufacturer version of a device because they only support CDMA.
How is everyone's satisfaction with T-Mobile? That's the only carrier I can go to and I'm in Massachusetts. If anyone can give me a good idea on what the difference in service is like that would be great.
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I live in Boston, work in Cambridge - T-Mobile is a beast!!
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why dont you try Solavei its basically is t-mobile no contract for $50 unlimited talk , text, data! and if you dont like you can always go back to verizon
www.solavei.com/SignUp?un=benjaminbribies&from=Invite

Yep. Moved to T-Mobile! Loving it. Love my nexus 4 too
T-Mobile has 4g in my area but hspa+ is fast enough for me. And I always have enough service to send calls and text. Whereas on Verizon it was spotty and only worked some of the time.
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Wise move... Enjoy T-Mobile on the N4! Cool

Month to month, no contract sounds good to me.