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Nexus One Performs Like 4G

I did a test with my nexus one and G2, I don't know how but my Nexus still out performed my G2 Am I Glad To Be An Owner Of A Nexus1
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I live in a suburb of Boston and have great HSPA+ service. My N1 is getting on average during peak hours 4.2 DL and a constant 1.3 UL. I am very happy with those numbers. T-Mobile has a solid Network and blows away AT&T, Sprint and Verizon in my area. I live only 10 miles out of Boston and one mile away from RT 128. Suppose to be strong areas for all the Carriers.
Thank You T-Mobile.

Confused
If the T-mobile or Att network your using has an average of 7.2mbps or less, wont the Nexus One get the exact same download speed as any HSPA+ phone?
The only time an HSPA+ phone would ever "outpace" the N1 in download speed would be if the network is built up past 7.2mbps right? Like if the average speed was 10mbps THEN the HSPA+ would finally kick in but until 7.2mbps the Nexus One will keep up with any HSPA+ phone right?

I didn't know the G2 was LTE enabled
HSDPA+ is 3G btw.

I don't know, my thoughts were G2: better phone, better performance. LOL (Simpled Minded) Huh? It doesn't make sense to buy a 4G phone then! Forget 4G
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LOL at thinking those measly speeds are 4G!
4G speeds are more like 30MB/s down and 15MB/s up.
Look at some of the Verizon LTE (a TRUE 4G network) speed tests.

GldRush98 said:
LOL at thinking those measly speeds are 4G!
4G speeds are more like 30MB/s down and 15MB/s up.
Look at some of the Verizon LTE (a TRUE 4G network) speed tests.
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Well even Verizon's LTE network is still around 7-12 Mbit, not MB/sec... and no where near true "4G."
The ITU's newest standard now allows "evolved 3G technologies" such as HSPA+ to eventually qualify for "4G" nomenclature, but this is still quite some time from now, given that it's roughly 1/10 of the required speed for mobile applications. What's funny, though, is that T-Mobile's HSPA+ is generally faster than Sprint's WiMAX in many areas, despite the fact that under the old classification system WiMAX could eventually become 4G whereas HSPA+ could not.
IMT-Advanced basically became what the old "4G" classification was, including the 100 Mbit mobile and 1 Gbit fixed speed requirements, as well as goodies like VoIP and OFDMA.

Wow Professor Will, So All This Hype About 4G is probably for months or even years to come! I'm not buying another supposedly 4G Phone until its like an guarantee that I see a huge difference in speed!
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wtharden said:
Wow Professor Will, So All This Hype About 4G is probably for months or even years to come! I'm not buying another supposedly 4G Phone until its like an guarantee that I see a huge difference in speed!
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yeah pretty much, i thought it was common knowledge for all of us phone geeks. tmobile's 4g is nothing but 3G HSPA. and unless the towers have enough backhaul to support fast speeds, a 3G phone will perform like a 4G phone until the theoretical limits for each are hit. havent seen that happen anywhere yet in the USA that i can tell. its all gimmic marketing crap.

RogerPodacter said:
yeah pretty much, i thought it was common knowledge for all of us phone geeks. tmobile's 4g is nothing but 3G HSPA. and unless the towers have enough backhaul to support fast speeds, a 3G phone will perform like a 4G phone until the theoretical limits for each are hit. havent seen that happen anywhere yet in the USA that i can tell. its all gimmic marketing crap.
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Call it what you want, I'm very happy with T-Mobile. In my area they are faster then all others. They have the best plans and prices blow all others away. I think if more people gave them a chance they would be very happy. Not to mention they support the Nexus One.

vinnyjr said:
Call it what you want, I'm very happy with T-Mobile. In my area they are faster then all others. They have the best plans and prices blow all others away. I think if more people gave them a chance they would be very happy. Not to mention they support the Nexus One.
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+1 Also, very satisfied with TMobile in my area!

galaxys said:
+1 Also, very satisfied with TMobile in my area!
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+2 dittos.

vinnyjr said:
Call it what you want, I'm very happy with T-Mobile. In my area they are faster then all others. They have the best plans and prices blow all others away. I think if more people gave them a chance they would be very happy. Not to mention they support the Nexus One.
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I'm very impressed with t-mobile and give them all the credit in the world for what they've done with their data speeds. ATT is a joke when it comes to being a leader like that. They do nothing but follow the other carriers and react rather than set the standard. But I'm sad t-mobile started this fake 4g thing.

Extremely satisfied with my Nexus One on TMO. I'm roughly 20 miles north west from northeastern Philly and just like the other users have said T-Mobile has the best coverage in my area compared to Verizon and AT&T. My work phone is a Blackberry Tour running on Verizon's network and the network coverage blows compared to T-Mobile's in my area.
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Rogers in canada is crazy fast... It seems my upload is capped at 1mbit up but download speeds have gotten upwards of 4 even 5 mbit down!
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Here's a quick fact about 4G

AT&T hasn't enabled 4G on any device because they haven't FINISHED setting it up yet. Give them time, you guys are so impatient about this 4G garbage, there is a reason why they're taking their time, did you guys forget what happened with the iPhone when it started to use 3G. They're going to make sure they won't get flooded and they'll have enough to go around. I've got a few friends that work for the network engineering department and i've been told by them that the network isn't fully set so 4G isn't fully activated yet. Quit complaining, it's a good thing that its not up yet because then you guys would REALLY *****!

the phone is called 'atrix 4g' and they are toting it as a 4g phone. How unreasonable that we might have expectations of it.. lolz

4G meaning it has the capability to do 4G! Doesn't mean it will have it right off the bat...you know when you buy the phone AT&T tells you that the 4G network isn't up. If you bought it without paying attention on what the guys told you, then it is all your fault for buying it thinking it will have 4G instantly... just give them time, AT&T is always known to have the most efficient network out of all. May not be the most reliable but they are the fastest.

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..May not be the most reliable but they are the fastest.
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someone is wrong on the internet, i'm calling the 4chan police.

1. Its not.capable of 4g. The htc thunderbolt is the only 4g phone. Do some research
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Will hspa+ even come close to Verizon's lte?
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LTE has currently a download peak of 326.4 Mbps (40.8 Mbps real time-speed) also counting that LTE is using a 1.4-20 MHz frequency range. LTE would have higher speed capabilities if it wasn't being hogged by the air interference, then it would possibly run at 71 Mbps real-time speed
HSPA+ is still in development and running at a download peak of 672Mbps (84 Mbps real-time speed) also counting that HPSA+ is only using a 5 MHz frequency range.
These aren't the exact fact of what AT&T or Verizon has but it is the capability, LTE has been live since 2004 globaly while HSPA+ has only been up since 2009. LTE is becoming old while HSPA WILL be the future. Just because LTE is currently faster doesn't mean it will be for long. When HSPA+ goes fully live with AT&T you may see a quicker speed, There are networks around the world that put HSPA+ up currently at 42 Mbps real-time

What if the Thunderbolt wouldn't have LTE until next year?
It would be laughed to the curb. The only reason people still by atrixs is because we've become accustomed to AT&T being a bunch of greedy cheapskates.

At&T says you "might see speeds up to approximately 6mbps [at best]"
http://www.wireless.att.com/answer-...locale=&_dyncharset=UTF-8&solutionId=KB115947
(the link isn't broken, just click on it, and wait about 5 secs.

The funniest thing is that 4G in the USA isn't the same as in Sweden. We've got 4G here as well. But the thing is that your 4G is about the same as your 3G if I ain't misinformed.
Our 4G is <80Mbit/s
http://www.tele2.se/mobilt-bredband/4g.html?cmpid=se.search.2011.s.google.cpc

also i forgot to say, AT&T will be using HSPA+ as an addon because LTE will soon be introduced to them sometime at the end of this year....so yeah utilizing more antennas meaning more speeds... =)

Yeah, I don't think people are as upset about not getting 4G speeds as they are upset about very often not even getting 3G speeds. The upload speeds on this phone are atrocious, and quite often the download speeds are as well.
But, hey, thanks for your post containing information we all already know.

Mafisometal said:
AT&T hasn't enabled 4G on any device because they haven't FINISHED setting it up yet. Give them time, you guys are so impatient about this 4G garbage, there is a reason why they're taking their time, did you guys forget what happened with the iPhone when it started to use 3G. They're going to make sure they won't get flooded and they'll have enough to go around. I've got a few friends that work for the network engineering department and i've been told by them that the network isn't fully set so 4G isn't fully activated yet. Quit complaining, it's a good thing that its not up yet because then you guys would REALLY *****!
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It's funny that you titled this "quick fact" when you haven't stated any facts whatsoever. You sound like an AT&T press statement. Plus, you can't compare the Atrix, or the Inspire for that matter, to the iPhone. Whereas the iPhone had sold over a million in the first 3 months of it's release, I doubt the Atrix and Inspire will reach 100,000 in that same time frame combined. This was deceptive marketing, plain and simple. AT&T covers their butt with small print and they more than likely trained the employees to avoid discussion on actual H+ rollout. There's a reason the story made it to Engadget and other tech sites when it was found that data speeds were capped on these phones, it's because AT&T didn't want anyone to know.

The major complaint isn't not having 4G its ATT capping our upload and giving all the bandwidth to their favorite child the iphone. Its just a bit upsetting that I pay the same monthly as any iphone user out there yet I get subpar service. I think what we all want is to have service like what is given to iphoners and that alone would quiet the masses about the lack of 4G.
PS. I live in Orlando a place I was told numerous times was a test city for their 4G yet no 4G here all I'm left with is a crippled 3G network that I no longer get good signal inside my own home. I think that's evetyones gripe with ATT
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jange said:
The funniest thing is that 4G in the USA isn't the same as in Sweden. We've got 4G here as well. But the thing is that your 4G is about the same as your 3G if I ain't misinformed.
Our 4G is <80Mbit/s
http://www.tele2.se/mobilt-bredband/4g.html?cmpid=se.search.2011.s.google.cpc
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The thing is that theres more than 200million wireless users in America and have to share the OTA data bandwidth. In Sweden theres a lot less people therefore everyone gets faster speeds.

For all those who are saying be patient. What if you went out and bought a new Ferrari capable of going 200mph. Only to find out the factory limited it to only 70mph. Here you are getting passed on the highway every day by moms in their mini vans. All the while you're being told by the factory that eventually we'll take off the governor so just sit there and shut up. I think you would be a bit upset.

the OP sounds like a AT&T rep...

drock212 said:
The major complaint isn't not having 4G its ATT capping our upload and giving all the bandwidth to their favorite child the iphone. Its just a bit upsetting that I pay the same monthly as any iphone user out there yet I get subpar service. I think what we all want is to have service like what is given to iphoners and that alone would quiet the masses about the lack of 4G.
PS. I live in Orlando a place I was told numerous times was a test city for their 4G yet no 4G here all I'm left with is a crippled 3G network that I no longer get good signal inside my own home. I think that's evetyones gripe with ATT
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neotekz said:
the OP sounds like a AT&T rep...
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Not to me, an ATT rep would know that ATT claims to have rolled out HSDPA+ across their entire footprint, while at the same time admitting that backhaul is far from complete. HSDPA+ is of course the justification for tagging the Atrix and Inspire as 4G.

Jim_R said:
Not to me, an Art rep would know that Art claims to have rolled out HSDPA+ across their entire footprint, while at the same time.admitting that nackhaul is far.from complete. HSDPA+ is of course the.justification for tagging the Atrix and Inspire as 4G.
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Regardless if he's a rep or not, for the most part a forum like XDA was created as an act of defiance to the restrictions that carriers and manufactures have imposed on their products. So, why would anyone want to come in here and defend AT&T, or any carrier/manufacturer? It automatically makes you sound like a "plant".
I'm not trying to negate what you are saying, I agree with you. I just wanted to throw that out there.

bsinc1962 said:
For all those who are saying be patient. What if you went out and bought a new Ferrari capable of going 200mph. Only to find out the factory limited it to only 70mph. Here you are getting passed on the highway every day by moms in their mini vans. All the while you're being told by the factory that eventually we'll take off the governor so just sit there and shut up. I think you would be a bit upset.
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Where can you go 200mph legally(or over 70 even in the US)? That's what I don't get. I understand high speed internet for home computers, you download and stream stuff all day. But on a cellphone, 3-4mbps is plenty fast.
'But I pay for 4g speeds!'​
No you don't. You pay the same as any 3g device, with the same exact service. Get over yourself.

3g and 4g really ticking me off!

Been almost a year and my 3g service is poor outside, and still no 4g in my area of south jersey. I really luv this evo, but my girl has thunderbolt from verizon and her service is amazing with no signal problems! Sorry had to vent, but sprint needs to get there 3 and 4 g up to speed or im making the jump to verizon! They should not advertise 4g when its not even available!
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fierceeagle2003 said:
Been almost a year and my 3g service is poor outside, and still no 4g in my area of south jersey. I really luv this evo, but my girl has thunderbolt from verizon and her service is amazing with no signal problems! Sorry had to vent, but sprint needs to get there 3 and 4 g up to speed or im making the jump to verizon! They should not advertise 4g when its not even available!
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Huh... Clear map says you have coverage... take the 4g issue up with them. Call Sprint with your 3g issues, you might get a credit. ALso, if you jump ship remember SPrint own 3times as much spectrum then Verizon or Att. Eventually when their networks are congested, Sprint will have plenty more to play with.

i agree..3g here has been horrible since november of last year and verizons service here is awesome..on top of that verizon lte will be in my area in a few months...even more of a reason to jump ship..

Hey, 4g is in philly, not south jersey, we get the ****ty outcast signal , i want 4g all over south jersey! Were now in quarter 1 of 2011 when this phone has been out for almost a year! They need to stop [email protected]$%* and fix the problem, and ive been with sprint since 2000 long time custy , they need to do whats right!
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blakeboys said:
Huh... Clear map says you have coverage... take the 4g issue up with them. Call Sprint with your 3g issues, you might get a credit. ALso, if you jump ship remember SPrint own 3times as much spectrum then Verizon or Att. Eventually when their networks are congested, Sprint will have plenty more to play with.
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Yea and by the time Sprint actually implements that spectrum and puts it to use itll be years from now.

I just jumped...well tomorrow my tbolt will be here. Wanted to stay but couldnt take the data issues. They waved my etf cause ive been complaining once a wk since nov. It wasnt easy getting them to wave it. Others are jumping to.

I downloaded Firefox 4 today - it took a good 30 minutes. Ridiculous.
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I just jumped ship from TMO to Sprint because I couldn't get 3G anywhere near home here in Oklahoma but every single other carrier had it. I have had great experience with Sprints 3G. What are you guys speeds? I download at a consistent 1mbit or better.

dowmace said:
I just jumped ship from TMO to Sprint because I couldn't get 3G anywhere near home here in Oklahoma but every single other carrier had it. I have had great experience with Sprints 3G. What are you guys speeds? I download at a consistent 1mbit or better.
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<500kbit in NYC. Usually around 300, used to get 1.5 mbit about a year ago.
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Even if you get 4g in your area it still sucks as far as building penetration

Award Tour said:
I downloaded Firefox 4 today - it took a good 30 minutes. Ridiculous.
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Dude.....if that takes 30 mins, then you should switch RIGHT NOW. i love the EVO and all of its glory but you should at least get a phone that is enjoyable to have.

I guess I got it good in Houston. My 3G speeds are good, 4G is even better. If they were as you are describing I would have ditched sprint a long time ago!

I'm a long way from you guys, near Toronto, well, between Toronto and Detroit. I did a quick speed test tonight and my hsupa speeds were faster than when I'm home on wifi!? I'll post some #'s momentarily.
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tkjeeper said:
I'm a long way from you guys, near Toronto, well, between Toronto and Detroit. I did a quick speed test tonight and my hsupa speeds were faster than when I'm home on wifi!? I'll post some #'s momentarily.
Bah, made a liar out of me! Must have been the area I was in! 3.3 mb/s on wifi, 1 mb/s in home, wifi off, hsupa on. Oh well.
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dowmace said:
I just jumped ship from TMO to Sprint because I couldn't get 3G anywhere near home here in Oklahoma but every single other carrier had it. I have had great experience with Sprints 3G. What are you guys speeds? I download at a consistent 1mbit or better.
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Same here...

3g speeds 0.05 mbps to 0.12 mbps

im using cyanogenmod 7 the stable version, i dont know if these speeds are suppose to be like this or if just sprint service sucks donkey balls. also my upload speed is 0.13mbps which is even faster than my download speed, happens sometimes. On my 4g i get around 4mbps which is pretty good cause i can actually watch youtube videos without waiting so long and lagging, the 3g icon is 1x, i dont know if its suppose to be like that but thats what mine is, on my stock rom its 3g. my prl is 01115 just updated like last week or the week before, i live in cali by the bay area. any help? or r these the speeds, or sprint sucks donkey balls

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cocoes4o8 said:
im using cyanogenmod 7 the stable version, i dont know if these speeds are suppose to be like this or if just sprint service sucks donkey balls. also my upload speed is 0.13mbps which is even faster than my download speed, happens sometimes. On my 4g i get around 4mbps which is pretty good cause i can actually watch youtube videos without waiting so long and lagging, the 3g icon is 1x, i dont know if its suppose to be like that but thats what mine is, on my stock rom its 3g. my prl is 01115 just updated like last week or the week before, i live in cali by the bay area. any help? or r these the speeds, or sprint sucks donkey balls
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Stock roms do not show 1x. So you could just have poor signal. Where in the bay area? In southbay I am having no problems.
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1X is not 3g so your speeds are fine for 1x. When you do connect to 3g let us know your speeds.
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i live in like modesto tracy area. if you know where that is

thats my point, when i go to stock rom i have 3g, but when i flast custom rom like cyanogenmod i always get 1x for 3g. idk y.

I constantly get 1x in Phoenix using CM7, it is quite annoying.

i never got my cm7 to say 3g always 1x

AOSP and Sense show different signal strengths. Did you guys run a speed test when on Sense? And is it any different?

Honestly I think it's a problem with AOSP rooms like CM and UD. When I've used those I would constantly get 1x connection. I was in a 3G area being that the other phones on my plan would have 4G and 3G and the internet would be quicker. It's a problem with the ROM itself I think.
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I just found this in Q&A
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=898882

Like stated earlier, sense Roms will say 3g but it may really be 1x because sense Rom do not show true signal strength! Aosp does which is why you are seeing 1x with cm7
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craigbailey1986 said:
Like stated earlier, sense Roms will say 3g but it may really be 1x because sense Rom do not show true signal strength! Aosp does which is why you are seeing 1x with cm7
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Yup, but not all sense roms, the incredible 2 shows 1x and 3G so is some sense roms, I'm on 3G at home and I just run some speed test and my download speed is 0.21 mbps and 0.15 upload so is really bad for 3G and I thought it might be my phone but I tried my wife's too (Epic stock) and she gets same result, I ma start going out of town soon, so I think I ma have to cancel Sprint, I wanted the nexus s but T-Mobile sucks too, att don't really like it, so I guess I ma go back with Verizon which is where I came, just don't one the thunderbolt cause all specs rather I wait for the galaxy s 2(I doubt it cause I hate Samsung ) or go back to iPhone in Verizon I don't want to but that's probably my last choice
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No. Stock roms will say 3G even when you are on 1X. Do your speeds increase on the stock rom?
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jgalan14 said:
Yup, but not all sense roms, the incredible 2 shows 1x and 3G so is some sense roms, I'm on 3G at home and I just run some speed test and my download speed is 0.21 mbps and 0.15 upload so is really bad for 3G and I thought it might be my phone but I tried my wife's too (Epic stock) and she gets same result, I ma start going out of town soon, so I think I ma have to cancel Sprint, I wanted the nexus s but T-Mobile sucks too, att don't really like it, so I guess I ma go back with Verizon which is where I came, just don't one the thunderbolt cause all specs rather I wait for the galaxy s 2(I doubt it cause I hate Samsung ) or go back to iPhone in Verizon I don't want to but that's probably my last choice
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Why not give sprint a call?
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Rem3Dy said:
Why not give sprint a call?
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Yeah I ma call them tomorrow when i gget back to stock rom, cause I know they gonna want to roubleshoot, hard reset my device and all crazy crap, the thing is the my bill says I use 3.5 GB in one month of data and I don't Even know how, I don't remember using the much cause I try to use wifi as much as I can
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prl does not affect speed, only roaming

My speeds are horrible too. I'm in Indiana. It took me about 2 minutes to load a text only page today on CM7. I'm going to switch to a Sense rom for a couple days and try that out. We'll see how it goes.

The most I can get in Daytona Beach is .6mb download and .13mb upload

chebua said:
The most I can get in Daytona Beach is .6mb download and .13mb upload
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Damn man the sucks
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cocoes4o8 said:
im using cyanogenmod 7 the stable version, i dont know if these speeds are suppose to be like this or if just sprint service sucks donkey balls. also my upload speed is 0.13mbps which is even faster than my download speed, happens sometimes. On my 4g i get around 4mbps which is pretty good cause i can actually watch youtube videos without waiting so long and lagging, the 3g icon is 1x, i dont know if its suppose to be like that but thats what mine is, on my stock rom its 3g. my prl is 01115 just updated like last week or the week before, i live in cali by the bay area. any help? or r these the speeds, or sprint sucks donkey balls
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For the last TWO AND A HALF MONTHS Ive been *****ing at Sprint for this same reason of slow 3G speeds. When I got my EVO in December, I didnt have any issue pulling in decent 3G speeds at my house in San Francisco (I live in Mission District, and speeds were 900-1100kbps). I currently get between 50kbps to a max 300kbps. Sprint says this is fine for 3G and I say its not.
If you go to Downtown San Jose near "Almaden and Santa Clara" at times the speed will be 1100kbps-2200kbps, but even recently the speed has dropped down.
4G - forget it, it basically doesnt exist where the coverage maps claim. Sprint or Clearwire or BOTH are lying on that one. Where it does work, its slower than 3G in the areas I mentioned above.
Ive gone back and forth with test after test on my phone, reset after reset, visits to the store repair centers everything. Its got to the point Ive filed with the FCC and BBB and still no response from EITHER!
Im now looking at eating the ETF and going to small claims to recoup the fees and a MINIMUM of 3 months of the "highest priced data plan" Sprint offers due to them not being able to deliver what we both contractually agreed to deliver, yet I am forced to continue to pay for. They made out with the better end of the bargain, and that isnt what a contract is about.
So where are you in the Bay Area? Id love to get a hold of you and find out more about your debug settings so I can notify Sprint this isnt just a ME issue, its a network issue.

Getting 20mb speed on Orange uk?

In London an hit 16 last week, now hitting 20 kegs down on a US Tmobile phone with an Orange sim?
I guess that this is dc HSPA etc, but Not LTE?
Anyone else getting crazy reads?

mikeycollins13 said:
In London an hit 16 last week, now hitting 20 kegs down on a US Tmobile phone with an Orange sim?
I guess that this is dc HSPA etc, but Not LTE?
Anyone else getting crazy reads?
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Need some pics or it didn't happen. And also calm down and fix your spelling lol.

Meemo23 said:
Need some pics or it didn't happen. And also calm down and fix your spelling lol.
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Are you kidding me? First of all please look at my membership date here...you were still in diapers I bet. Grey hair earns me a bit of respect. Typing on
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1. It's true
2. I don't get it but I think it's still just dc HSPA speed which is maxed at 21 mb, and not 4g. I got 19,956 and 19,383, and 17,067.
That is fast?

mikeycollins13 said:
Are you kidding me? First of all please look at my membership date here...you were still in diapers I bet. Grey hair earns me a bit of respect.
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I've been a long time lurker but this last statement makes me want to come out of the darkness and say:
PICS OR IT DIDNT HAPPEN

The most I've got in London is 5mb down, 2mb up on T-Mobile. In North London anyway, not sure about central or any where else.

I agree that speed has increased lately, but best I could get are these

I get 12Mbs at work on 3 in the UK (Nottingham) normally between 5 and 6Mbs from home
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I believe you. I've achieved similar speeds here in Scotland on occasion. It's definitely just good old H+ however.
I'm on 3 as well. It's not always fast, but I do seem to be maintaining a high speed signal for longer these days.
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Yee of little faith who have doubted Gandalph the old!
I attach a screenshot. I also don't think this is 4g LTE but rather a good working HSPA+ running below 21mb. I am located in central London.
Nevertheless this is a very impressive speed and raises the question who wants for 4G LTE that few tests have shown reaches over 20 MB???

Edit!

These are my speeds at home im from kent in uk
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mikeycollins13 said:
Are you kidding me? First of all please look at my membership date here...you were still in diapers I bet. Grey hair earns me a bit of respect. Typing on
an ipad will upload tomorrow.
1. It's true
2. I don't get it but I think it's still just dc HSPA speed which is maxed at 21 mb, and not 4g. I got 19,956 and 19,383, and 17,067.
That is fast?
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Still no pics and mate please save your statement. Because while you leeched and posted rubbish posts i developed and modded for a phone. So your argument is invalid. But i don't need to prove no point as i said. PICS or it didn't happen.
Hahaha..
I see the pics now i believe you that is all lad

4G at the moment in the UK is nothing more then a empty bottle. No UK phone is capable of having the 4G. All UK phones and tablets run on 3G. EE will be releasing lte phones in the new year.
The main reason EE have released 4G early is to claw in extra contracts. The biggest problem EE have is there coverage. The coverage is weak and inconsistent for 3G let alone the 4G.
Anyone who is serious about 4G should wait until at least a year.

Meemo23 said:
Need some pics or it didn't happen. And also calm down and fix your spelling lol.
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LOLOL

davados said:
4G at the moment in the UK is nothing more then a empty bottle. No UK phone is capable of having the 4G. All UK phones and tablets run on 3G. EE will be releasing lte phones in the new year.
The main reason EE have released 4G early is to claw in extra contracts. The biggest problem EE have is there coverage. The coverage is weak and inconsistent for 3G let alone the 4G.
Anyone who is serious about 4G should wait until at least a year.
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You are joking?
iPhone5 runs EE 4G... let alone the other phones.. Galaxy S3 LTE, Note 2 LTE etc...

danieljamie said:
You are joking?
iPhone5 runs EE 4G... let alone the other phones.. Galaxy S3 LTE, Note 2 LTE etc...
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I'm not joking no UK phone currently runs 4G. Anyone who tells you differently they just don't know how 4G works. If you've got a GS3 or iPhone 5 in the last 6 months on contract with EE they will let you upgrade to the lte verson for £90.00 when they release them next year.
4G coverage will be poor for at least a year if not more for most places. City's and very large towns will have coverage in the next year but the coverage will be dependant on operator.

davados said:
I'm not joking no UK phone currently runs 4G. Anyone who tells you differently they just don't know how 4G works. If you've got a GS3 or iPhone 5 in the last 6 months on contract with EE they will let you upgrade to the lte verson for £90.00 when they release them next year.
4G coverage will be poor for at least a year if not more for most places. City's and very large towns will have coverage in the next year but the coverage will be dependant on operator.
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You are mistaken my friend.
iPhone 5 is LTE. Works on EE 4G
As do the other LTE phones available in the UK now.
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4G here in Australia reaches 45-50mbps down, now that's real 4g . When I am tethering it is faster then my home WiFi it's crazy !
I have heard some companies around the world b.s. and are really only on fast 3g because speeds don't even reach 20mbps on their so called 4g
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btemtd said:
4G here in Australia reaches 45-50mbps down, now that's real 4g . When I am tethering it is faster then my home WiFi it's crazy !
I have heard some companies around the world b.s. and are really only on fast 3g because speeds don't even reach 20mbps on their so called 4g
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And your an Aussie too Where you located to get 45-50 down? Thats FAST!