since we have CWM recovery, i wonder if we can just flash the official update from 3.0.1 to 3.1?
i am afraid to test as we do not have any original sbf to restore to if something goes wrong.
i open up the update and don't see any radio related files, i guess it might be safe.
any ideas you guys?
i have rooted my xoom, is there anyway i can dump the whole thing as a backup, try the update, and if something goes wrong, restore it?
the-update-is-for-US-xoom-it-will-not-work-here-we-are-not-cdma.
I get fed up of repeating this sentence like a drone, I think I'm going to make a quick text.
bloody motorola... what so different in that?
can't they just do something similar to what the Nexus S is, where they are all compatible?
i don't see any hardware difference apart from the radio.
( i am referring to wifi xoom).
qwerp_ said:
bloody motorola... what so different in that?
can't they just do something similar to what the Nexus S is, where they are all compatible?
i don't see any hardware difference apart from the radio.
( i am referring to wifi xoom).
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Motorola is American, America comes first, so we have to wait. Unfortunately they seem to be one of those c ompany that doesn't deal with their international customers very well and so we have no information.
I think the real difference is that the American XOOM is a G.E.D (Google Experience Device) so they get direct google updates, where ours is not, so we have to wait on Motorola.
alias_neo said:
I think the real difference is that the American XOOM is a G.E.D (Google Experience Device) so they get direct google updates, where ours is not, so we have to wait on Motorola.
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I understand that the hardware on the UK/EU wifi version is the same as the US version, while the software is different. Is it possible to load the US software onto the UK hardware and make my device a G.E.D.? If we're going to get dicked around like we did with the Droid/Milestone, then I might just return it and buy an iPad 2 (for all their problems they do seem to get that they are selling a product to a global audience).
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I understand that the hardware on the UK/EU wifi version is the same as the US version, while the software is different. Is it possible to load the US software onto the UK hardware and make my device a G.E.D.? If we're going to get dicked around like we did with the Droid/Milestone, then I might just return it and buy an iPad 2 (for all their problems they do seem to get that they are selling a product to a global audience).
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Hardware is the same, I'd do exactly that with the Wifi Only and just install the US images, then you get the updates like they do. We can't do that with the 3G one though because their 3G is CDMA and ours isn't so there are some differences that make it impossible for us to just use their images.
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Hardware is the same, I'd do exactly that with the Wifi Only and just install the US images, then you get the updates like they do.
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And to do this do I need to unlock the boot loader?
As far as I understand all I have to do is firstly factory wipe from the settings menu, then enable the debug USB option, plug it in to my PC and follow the commands listed here? Or is there more to it than that? I've been a happy Nexus One stock user so I've never really bothered to learn any of this stuff prior to this.
Related
...the ones listed in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=559622 this thread?
If I download the official one for Europe from HTC support page I would get the 2.73.405.5 one... but in the one in the aforementioned thread I see 2.73.405.66... I know that the "405" are the region number though.
This is getting quite confused... are they nonofficial uppdates or country specific images?
these are the official htc updates. be careful when applying these, as it might be a hasle to get your phone rooted afterwards.
kendong2 said:
these are the official htc updates. be careful when applying these, as it might be a hasle to get your phone rooted afterwards.
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I assumed that they where indeed official uppgrades but why aren't they on HTC support pages? Am I looking in the wrong region of the world or am I just plain stupid in finding them?
And what's the difference between them?
I am not worried about not being able to root my phone... it will stay unrooted until it falls out of HTC's warranty (2 year world wide warranty)... and in two years I am sure that some chefs have been able to root it again...
Thiesen said:
I assumed that they where indeed official uppgrades but why aren't they on HTC support pages? Am I looking in the wrong region of the world or am I just plain stupid in finding them?
And what's the difference between them?
I am not worried about not being able to root my phone... it will stay unrooted until it falls out of HTC's warranty (2 year world wide warranty)... and in two years I am sure that some chefs have been able to root it again...
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they are there, you just need to enter the correct serial (as if you bought a phone in uk if you want the uk upgrade and so on). the difference is only known by htc, or someone who tried them all... the newer the better, for general speaking.
From this thread:
http://www.hiapk.com/thread-583511-1-1.html
The poster attached a photo of his Nexus One with a Radio version which I've never seen before. "32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08"
He reported that he received OTA update notification and the radio was automatically installed by the OTA update.
Has anyone seen that radio version before?
prolly the new Asian radio that has the new drivers and fixes for the vulnerabilities on their devices
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prolly the new Asian radio that has the new drivers and fixes for the vulnerabilities on their devices
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All nexus ones use the same radios
na there was a thread or article i remember reading about some vulnerability fixes for asian n1's via driver updates... brb looking for it lol
(inserts foot in mouth)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=815711
that was the thread i was thinking of but thats for the cpu not the radio... now i am befuddled about this new radio... i want it!
http://shipped-roms.com/shipped/Passion%20(Nexus%20One)/OTA_Passion_KT_KR_2.18.1010.4_FRG83-2.15.1010.2_FRF91_release_signed.zip
new radio is inside this patch -> radio.img
Extract the file and connect nexus in fastboot mode
fastboot devices
fastboot flash radio radio.img
wdfowty said:
All nexus ones use the same radios
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No.
No they do not.
Well at least all Nexus ones bought from the Google Store without going through the carriers should have the same radio. Not taking into consideration which android version at time of purchase of course.
Anyway South Korea is the only country in Asia that sells the Nexus one on its own through its local carriers, so this radio is probably Korean.
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No.
No they do not.
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I'll second that!
No. No they do not!
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so any differences noticed?
I saw a slight speed increase on Wifi and Edge.
Read the details here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8788247&postcount=76
Flashed it and it seems the Wifi and HSDPA are snappier! Much better than the 4.x
Using slcd N1 bought from local carrier
houzuoguo said:
From this thread:
http://www.hiapk.com/thread-583511-1-1.html
The poster attached a photo of his Nexus One with a Radio version which I've never seen before. "32.50.00.32U_5.12.00.08"
He reported that he received OTA update notification and the radio was automatically installed by the OTA update.
Has anyone seen that radio version before?
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Apparently the newest one (5.12) isn't so great: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=828185
Interesting, but hardly scientific.
There is too much variation in the network itself. I can keep my phone in the same spot all day, and watch it fluctuate between H, 3G, E, G, and even no signal at all...
I think it may be indicative, but would need many more data points to be conclusive (1000's).
Good effort though, and certainly worthy of note...
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danger-rat said:
Interesting, but hardly scientific.
There is too much variation in the network itself. I can keep my phone in the same spot all day, and watch it fluctuate between H, 3G, E, G, and even no signal at all...
I think it may be indicative, but would need many more data points to be conclusive (1000's).
Good effort though, and certainly worthy of note...
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Agreed, more people should do the test and THEN only could we do an average and compare the results...
My phone came with 5.08 on stock, then I went to 4.06 by mistake and it was pretty awful...In the end, I decided to try 5.12 and, as I said, it feels a lot snappier than the 4.06 and maybe even than the 5.08...I also think that the technology used could have something to do (frequencies of your network and such)
It's always hard to compare wireless speeds because there is nothing constant and physically exactly repeatable...still good job on the comparison though...we all know that any of the 5.x are better than 4.x anyways
Agreed!
Since switching to 5.12 I don't think I've ever dropped below 3G for any significant period. I don't know if my speeds are any faster, but its certainly more reliable... (5.08 seemed faster, but would frequemtly drop down to E/G, and occasionally loose signal).
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Rusty! said:
No.
No they do not.
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...Now I'm confused...All nexus ones, to the best of my knowledge, have the same hardware (sparing SLCD, of course), correct? And it isn't like there are radio "versions" for different regions where the phone sells...Only one thread per radio.
musashiken said:
Well at least all Nexus ones bought from the Google Store without going through the carriers should have the same radio. Not taking into consideration which android version at time of purchase of course.
Anyway South Korea is the only country in Asia that sells the Nexus one on its own through its local carriers, so this radio is probably Korean.
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No, you misunderstand what I said. I meant to say they can all use the same radios. But I guess I'm wrong? Can someone correct me?
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...Now I'm confused...All nexus ones, to the best of my knowledge, have the same hardware (sparing SLCD, of course), correct? And it isn't like there are radio "versions" for different regions where the phone sells...Only one thread per radio.
No, you misunderstand what I said. I meant to say they can all use the same radios. But I guess I'm wrong? Can someone correct me?
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/facepalm...
they all use the same hardware, yes... apart from the ATT version which its virtually the same radio but just operates on different frequencies...
the deal is there is different firmware for the radios... firmware is basically a software update for the hardware but its localized to that specific component rather than like a driver for say your video card on your computer which you can tweak and stuff.
so in this case, his radio is the same however is firmware is different... its a newer version... one major difference in n1 firmwares is the 4.0 versions cannot do HD recording, only the 5.0 versions can... the hardware was limited by the firmware version it had... another thing was if you had this phone early on there was an OTA which gave us a new radio that improved the 3g connectivity for a lot of us... hope this helps
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/facepalm...
they all use the same hardware, yes... apart from the ATT version which its virtually the same radio but just operates on different frequencies...
the deal is there is different firmware for the radios... firmware is basically a software update for the hardware but its localized to that specific component rather than like a driver for say your video card on your computer which you can tweak and stuff.
so in this case, his radio is the same however is firmware is different... its a newer version... one major difference in n1 firmwares is the 4.0 versions cannot do HD recording, only the 5.0 versions can... the hardware was limited by the firmware version it had... another thing was if you had this phone early on there was an OTA which gave us a new radio that improved the 3g connectivity for a lot of us... hope this helps
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i believe what he meant, which is correct, is that all nexus ones, whether a euro version, ATT version, or tmobile version, all use the identical radio firmware, whether that is the 4.06, 5.08 or 5.12. sure each one will use different frequencies, but there is no 5.08 for an ATT version vs 5.08 for a tmobile version. its the same radio file for all.
JHaste said:
/facepalm...
they all use the same hardware, yes... apart from the ATT version which its virtually the same radio but just operates on different frequencies...
the deal is there is different firmware for the radios... firmware is basically a software update for the hardware but its localized to that specific component rather than like a driver for say your video card on your computer which you can tweak and stuff.
so in this case, his radio is the same however is firmware is different... its a newer version... one major difference in n1 firmwares is the 4.0 versions cannot do HD recording, only the 5.0 versions can... the hardware was limited by the firmware version it had... another thing was if you had this phone early on there was an OTA which gave us a new radio that improved the 3g connectivity for a lot of us... hope this helps
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Lol, hold off on those facepalms
RogerPodacter said:
i believe what he meant, which is correct, is that all nexus ones, whether a euro version, ATT version, or tmobile version, all use the identical radio firmware, whether that is the 4.06, 5.08 or 5.12. sure each one will use different frequencies, but there is no 5.08 for an ATT version vs 5.08 for a tmobile version. its the same radio file for all.
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That's what I thought. Thanks for setting me straight
I know this has been asked before but i just want to be sure, i just got the xoom and i want to know if i can send it in for repairs. I just want to kno if its like the ipod's/phones where there is a physical feature that is broken, so i can relock and my warranty will be valid.
Moto doesn't care.
K thanks
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Elysian893 said:
Moto doesn't care.
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Wait, what makes you say that? Do you know something we don't know? As far as I've heard, they've been very specific to say that they will not support devices that have been hacked.
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As far as I've heard, they've been very specific to say that they will not support devices that have been hacked.
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... yet they sold us a Google-Experience device with an unlocked bootloader.
You can't break anything seriously with software, which means any potential problems we'd have are either physical, user-abuse, or hardware defects. If you send it in and they determine that the problem is SW, they'll probably just wipe it back to stock and send it to you.
Fact does remain, however, that when you unlock that device you have to acknowledge you are voiding your warranty if you proceed. I'd like to think they would be reasonable - but at the same time, you have agreed to kiss off your warranty when you unlock.
That is why I am hesitant to unlock, on all of my Android Phones I have rooted because I know there is no hardware function that can tell it has been "Hacked" like on the iPhone. The Xoom I am unsure about because nobody has a definitive answer yet. My Eris broke 3 times while rooted and I unrooted each time and sent it in for a exchange. I just want the above situation to be equivilent to when/if (Hopefully not) my xoom has a hardware failure.
Jiv3turk3y89 said:
That is why I am hesitant to unlock, on all of my Android Phones I have rooted because I know there is no hardware function that can tell it has been "Hacked" like on the iPhone. The Xoom I am unsure about because nobody has a definitive answer yet. My Eris broke 3 times while rooted and I unrooted each time and sent it in for a exchange. I just want the above situation to be equivilent to when/if (Hopefully not) my xoom has a hardware failure.
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Moto has released their newest UPDATE for the xoom, on their website they included instructions and software to "RE-LOCK"/"UNROOT" your device before doing update. they dont care as long as you "relock"before sending the device to them to fix or reflash stock after you BUNKED a mod or etc...i dont recommend doing a theme flash, i did a few of them and had to go back to stock after every theme i tried, they did nothing but force close and i almost wasnt able to get back into CWM because the device wasnt recognized in adb...unlocking and rooting does nothing bad to your XOOM, best thing going for it, at least til there are some ROMS that couldnt get here any sooner...just a heads up
LNKNPRKFN said:
Moto has released their newest UPDATE for the xoom, on their website they included instructions and software to "RE-LOCK"/"UNROOT" your device before doing update. they dont care as long as you "relock"before sending the device to them to fix or reflash stock after you BUNKED a mod or etc...i dont recommend doing a theme flash, i did a few of them and had to go back to stock after every theme i tried, they did nothing but force close and i almost wasnt able to get back into CWM because the device wasnt recognized in adb...unlocking and rooting does nothing bad to your XOOM, best thing going for it, at least til there are some ROMS that couldnt get here any sooner...just a heads up
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Thanks everyone! I think im going to unlock it when I get the chance, the SD card slot is a BIG thing that I could use, also I want it overclocked just a lil (1.25 Ghz per core) so it doesn't lag much on the home screen. Also im not going to be flashing roms and stuff mainly kernels. This device is going to be used as a family computer so i can't mess with it as much as I can with my Phone . Anyways thanks guys!
I am in Canada on business and just picked up a thrive, I have been drooling over the damn thing for a few weeks now. HDMI port, GPS sensor sold me. I live in the US, and wondering, are they the exact hardware, or should I swap the puppy out when I get back to the states?
Also, verision is 3.1.03.5.0003 if that matters. Also, not rooted yet as I do for all my android devices, as I have to do more homework about this sleep of death thing.
h1p1n3 said:
I am in Canada on business and just picked up a thrive, I have been drooling over the damn thing for a few weeks now. HDMI port, GPS sensor sold me. I live in the US, and wondering, are they the exact hardware, or should I swap the puppy out when I get back to the states?
Also, verision is 3.1.03.5.0003 if that matters. Also, not rooted yet as I do for all my android devices, as I have to do more homework about this sleep of death thing.
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Hardware wise they are the same. OS wise they are not. You will need to root and install the 0032 OS load to have it up to date.
dalepl said:
Hardware wise they are the same. OS wise they are not. You will need to root and install the 0032 OS load to have it up to date.
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Thanks, I am actually checking out the root right now, might as well flash the ROM too as soon as I can find a image online.
h1p1n3 said:
Thanks, I am actually checking out the root right now, might as well flash the ROM too as soon as I can find a image online.
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Go to ThriveForums.org for new ROMs.
version 7.006.01 available....
downloading as we speak... can't wait to start playing
I got an hour ago. So far it seems to play smoother video but I haven't really had a chance to test drive
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Anyone tried Netflix yet?
jeelo said:
version 7.006.01 available....
downloading as we speak... can't wait to start playing
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Don't get too excited. You can't root 3.2 yet.
I got the update this morning in Vancouver. If there is no root by the end of the weekend (I don't have my hopes up), then I'm downgrading. I need ad-hoc to work.
Got it last night in Nova Scotia.
pacificwing said:
Don't get too excited. You can't root 3.2 yet.
I got the update this morning in Vancouver. If there is no root by the end of the weekend (I don't have my hopes up), then I'm downgrading. I need ad-hoc to work.
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Unfortunately I am not currently aware of a way to downgrade. trying to flash a lower version appears to leave the tablet unbootable. (otherwise I would be back on 3.1 until root for 3.2 appears)
ve6rah said:
Unfortunately I am not currently aware of a way to downgrade. trying to flash a lower version appears to leave the tablet unbootable. (otherwise I would be back on 3.1 until root for 3.2 appears)
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Well hopefully someone will figure something out... otherwise its easier to upgrade keeping root than to upgrade and try and re-establish root.
ezterry said:
Well hopefully someone will figure something out... otherwise its easier to upgrade keeping root than to upgrade and try and re-establish root.
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Unfortunately it's too late for that for many of us...
When I upgraded I realized root may not work, but I always figured if it didn't I'd simply downgrade again and be ok... I never imagined that the downgrade wouldn't be possible either.
As my girlfriend said when I described it to her "who do they think they are? don't they know that you already paid for the device, it's not theirs anymore, why do they think they can still tell you what you can and can't do on it?" (Unfortunately I am not currently aware of any large technology company who believes that they actually sell you a device, they all think you merely rent it from them)
ve6rah said:
Unfortunately it's too late for that for many of us...
When I upgraded I realized root may not work, but I always figured if it didn't I'd simply downgrade again and be ok... I never imagined that the downgrade wouldn't be possible either.
As my girlfriend said when I described it to her "who do they think they are? don't they know that you already paid for the device, it's not theirs anymore, why do they think they can still tell you what you can and can't do on it?" (Unfortunately I am not currently aware of any large technology company who believes that they actually sell you a device, they all think you merely rent it from them)
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I'm in the same boat. Acer has always been pretty flexible, so I just assumed I'd be able to downgrade. Now I'm stuck.
This could likely be my last Acer product. Not that that carries any weight, considering how many returns they had on the initial run of the A500, which didn't appear to bother them that much. (Have you tried the new A500's, or the refurbs? The GPS actually works!)
I understand that they don't want us mucking around with these types of things, in order to keep themselves from getting flooded with warranty and service calls from the idiots who bricked their tablet, but they often adopt the wrong attitude. It's like some irrational need to police what people do with a product, after they bought and paid for it. I'm not sure why consumer electronics differ from any other purchased property (cars, houses, appliances, etc). I wish they would understand that they do not still own my tablet.
Then again, we did choose to install the update. It wasn't exactly forced on us. So maybe we're the idiots.
-PW
Every android device I had was not able to be downgraded. Not just acer. Ask the people who upgraded their EVO 4G to gingerbread. If your expecting to root you should always way until their is a rooted ROM available and never accept ota
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Why is the US version always the last one to get the update? On .13 and none yet :-\
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I am happy that the new update seems to have made things smoother, but I am still getting the odd crash from apps like Dolpin Browser which is highly annoying, especially when I am in the middle of typing somthing big and then it FC's on me and I lose everything.
was in update loop
Dunno if this happened to anyone else. The tablet kept downloading the update and failing. I downloaded 3.2 update at least 8 times. The solution was to reset the tablet and then apply the update.
I've read its likely due to incompatible apps.
I'm happily on 3.2 now.
Does someone have the link to Acer for this update? If so please post the link.
Thanks
stevdes said:
Does someone have the link to Acer for this update? If so please post the link.
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No link, however a couple of us captured the update as it came in to our tablets, and have you can find the files here
A couple things.
I am still on 3.1 but this is because i patched for Netflix.
Now the device thinks it's a Xoom on 3.2 (which it is not, as we all know).
First question is has anyone tried Netflix with the update?
I'll search for it but does anyone have the original file that the netflix patch replaced?
I can't remember what it's called so it's difficult to search for it
Hmmm sounds like ill stay on 3.1
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