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[Q] Update.

Can someone please tell me how to go about updating my Xoom.
www.motorola.com/myxoom does not explain ****
i know this is probably a really stupid question, and i'm sure i'll get comments telling me to do research before posting.
but i did look for awhile, and from what i gather, a notification should have popped up on my xoom.
but one did not.
so how do i update the dang thing?

You wait, leave it connected to the internet (WiFi or 3g), it will eventually download and prompt you to install.

I just got mine, all I did was wait patiently.
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well i've been connected to wifi for about 6 hours now, and i'm always connected through verizon, but i haven't seen a single thing to do with an update.

They won't roll out the update to all devices at the same time. They have to do it in batches so they can minimise any update related problems should they occur.

So basically, my device is going to start downloading this update, without any previous consent by me, and will just prompt me to install once the update is downloaded?

Well, if it's like any other OTA update I've had it'll ask you before it starts to download. But yeah, essentially.

You will get an icon in your notification window near the clock. Click on it and it will tell you a system update is available, and give you 3 options; Just click 'Install Now' and watch it go and in 10 min (or less) you will be updated.

Sweet deal. Thanks guys... I was seriously starting to get very distraught.
I only owned an ios device before... but my girlfriend has a Captivate... so watching her be unable to get froyo for so long was starting to get me worried about my Xoom.

Yeah, Samsung are dicks.

burden010 said:
Yeah, Samsung are dicks.
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Agreed, my wifes Fascinate still hasn't gotten FroYo

n99hockey said:
Agreed, my wifes Fascinate still hasn't gotten FroYo
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Why not root and custom ROM?

burden010 said:
Why not root and custom ROM?
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While yes that what I would do if it were mine (My Incredible is running CM7 RC2), she doesn't care much. Just as long as it works for her then she is happy.

Yeah, my wife's the same. Luckily she's on Froyo (Desire) so it's not really an issue. I would forcibly update it to Gingerbread if I thought she'd notice.

If your xoom isn't on verizon 3g will you get the update? Is it coming from verizon or from motorola and how do they no about my device? I set it up on wifi and never used the 3g setup nore do I have a verizon contract. Am I going to be hosed?!?

ethion said:
If your xoom isn't on verizon 3g will you get the update? Is it coming from verizon or from motorola and how do they no about my device? I set it up on wifi and never used the 3g setup nore do I have a verizon contract. Am I going to be hosed?!?
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Your device periodically checks google's servers to see if there is update. Updates are released in batches so your device may not see an update until some time later. They can be downloaded off of wifi. Don't worry you're not hosed.

RadDudeTommy said:
So basically, my device is going to start downloading this update, without any previous consent by me, and will just prompt me to install once the update is downloaded?
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Funny stuff.. you gave consent when you left the check for updates boxed checked. Uncheck it problem solved you will not get the update.. since it reads as that is your preference. Others want the update you don't want the update #winner.

zone23 said:
Funny stuff.. you gave consent when you left the check for updates boxed checked. Uncheck it problem solved you will not get the update.. since it reads as that is your preference. Others want the update you don't want the update #winner.
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That happened on my Rooted/stock ROM Evo. Every now and then it pops up asking me to install an update that it just downloaded. Easy enough to simply decline, but pretty anoying though. At some point, I'll wander over to the Evo forum to see about (perhaps) pushing the new Cyanogen ROM, but im finding it hard to get excited about the phone these days...
Edit: Also, for those keeping score... My Xoom has not yet seen the update (5:17PM EST).

zone23 said:
Funny stuff.. you gave consent when you left the check for updates boxed checked. Uncheck it problem solved you will not get the update.. since it reads as that is your preference. Others want the update you don't want the update #winner.
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I obviously want it, why else would you be writing in this thread.
I just wanted to know how it worked #loser

Did Acer pull the 3.1 update? (update: YES)

Yesterday my tablet offered to update, but it failed the update - tried twice. The only thing I've done is root the tablet, I haven't uninstalled any default apps or anything.
I figured no big deal I'd try at work from my development machine today where I could unroot it and check adb logs and such.
Today I check for updates and I get "Your device is up to date" but I'm still on 3.0.1.
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Checked the devel forum and found that this appears to be the case - they pulled the update and promise a new build tomorrow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158359

hmmm, I wonder if it's anything to do with getting kicked out of the browser on a regular basis since I installed 3.1. And maybe the laggy keyboard?

so.. what'll happen if you successfully updated and aren't having any problems?

Seems like nothing if you already have 3.1 installed successfully... My tablet is still on 3.1 with no issues there.

I got a message to update to 3.1 today and have tried 3 times to apply the update, failed each time. I have unrooted, factory reset, and still failed. I am hoping that it is on ACER's end and not something in my tab.
My tablet is back to stock and still only gets 1/4 of the way through the application of the update before getting the orange ! in a triangle.
I spoke to ACER yesterday. They said there is a known problem with the 3.1 update and they should be releasing a new one soon. I asked how soon, but got no response. Once I got the update notification today, I thought maybe it was the new one?? Guess not.
Model: A500
Version: 3.0.1
Kernal: 2.6.36.3-00001-g9b3ce2b
Build: 1.104.02_COM_GEN1
EDIT: I am in ATL and bought my tablet from BestBuy in Kennesaw GA opening weekend.
Any advice?

I lost my opportunity to install 4.010.08. Two days ago I got the notice of an update. I tried to hold off as I wanted to see if I could capture the update and share it with others. After I got off work the next day and with some alogcat info I tried to check for updates and it was gone. Now I'm stuck on 3. 01 still. Hopefully they push out the update again as this time ill be ready.
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I, also, am having no operating system issues with 3.1. Overdrive Media Console has gone flakey with respect to audiobooks, but I was blaming that on OMC, not 3.1. I was very surprised to learn that Acer pulled the update. This begs the question, of course, what will happen with regard to the new update for those of us who successfully updated to 3.1? I had no problems and I had a rooted tablet, but had not made any other modifications.
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cybermage1 said:
Yesterday my tablet offered to update, but it failed the update - tried twice. The only thing I've done is root the tablet, I haven't uninstalled any default apps or anything.
I figured no big deal I'd try at work from my development machine today where I could unroot it and check adb logs and such.
Today I check for updates and I get "Your device is up to date" but I'm still on 3.0.1.
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Checked the devel forum and found that this appears to be the case - they pulled the update and promise a new build tomorrow:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1158359
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Is there a source other than what someone on XDA has "said"?
People lie. I'm not saying the original user lied but I've already seen a few posts linking to that one claiming along the lines, that 'Acer has said they pulled the update' when there is absolutely no official source.
The update has worked and is working for many of us. A friend of mine also got an update yesterday, which doesn't fall in line with the update being 'pulled' by Acer.
As you can see, many of us are getting different builds. What I SUSPECT is the case, is people are rooting and changing their build.props and it's confusing the update procedure on some units. People who don't know the ups and downs of rooting have done just that. They've switched files and components, wpa supplicant files etc. and noone knows the exact process that the device/software users to grab an update. This is just complete speculation on my part, I updated fine and so did a friend of mine that owns it. I did not root, he did not root. We both got the same build of 3.1 and he got his weeks after I got mine.
The point of my message is this, post rumor or something in the title so people don't just read your message and run with it. Because down the line, people are going to quote your thread as well and then lots of people will think "Acer pulled the update!, what's wrong with the one it put out originally!?" and that isn't necessarily the actual case.

Neoprimal said:
Is there a source other than what someone on XDA has "said"?
People lie. I'm not saying the original user lied but I've already seen a few posts linking to that one claiming along the lines, that 'Acer has said they pulled the update' when there is absolutely no official source.
The update has worked and is working for many of us. A friend of mine also got an update yesterday, which doesn't fall in line with the update being 'pulled' by Acer.
As you can see, many of us are getting different builds. What I SUSPECT is the case, is people are rooting and changing their build.props and it's confusing the update procedure on some units. People who don't know the ups and downs of rooting have done just that. They've switched files and components, wpa supplicant files etc. and noone knows the exact process that the device/software users to grab an update. This is just complete speculation on my part, I updated fine and so did a friend of mine that owns it. I did not root, he did not root. We both got the same build of 3.1 and he got his weeks after I got mine.
The point of my message is this, post rumor or something in the title so people don't just read your message and run with it. Because down the line, people are going to quote your thread as well and then lots of people will think "Acer pulled the update!, what's wrong with the one it put out originally!?" and that isn't necessarily the actual case.
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It does explain how I was able to get the update days ago, but now cannot.

Quick question: If the "No update Your device is up to date" window somehow managed to appear thousands of times in a relatively short period of time, is it possible that it will permanently burn itself into my display? Thanks for your help. (lol)

I'm not rooted, didn't change at all my A500 and yet can't update my tablet. "your device is up to date"
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zolhof said:
I'm not rooted, didn't change at all my A500 and yet can't update my tablet. "your device is up to date"
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Be patient young padowan....it will come. Or use a ROM like I did. 3.1 working flawlessly.

TFordham said:
Be patient young padowan....it will come. Or use a ROM like I did. 3.1 working flawlessly.
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Which rom do you suggest?
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It does explain how I was able to get the update days ago, but now cannot.
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It absolutely does not. This happens on phones as well. If your device is showing an update and you decide to factory reset or even reboot before you download the update, there is a possibility that you're moved down a bit in the server queue.
It's very rare that it happen on a reboot, but it is def. possible if you do a factory reset. Any number of things can explain a stalled update, it doesn't at all mean Acer pulled it.
I'm still waiting for an official source...nothing so far on Acer's FB or anything like that. If anyone could provide one, that'd be great.

I just bought my new A500 yesterday. It is not rooted. When I connected to my home network for the first time, I received a message telling me that an update was available. I assumed it was the 3.1 that everyone was talking about. It downloaded and installed with nary a hitch. I got confirmation of successful update. After the update, I realized that I was having some of the same issues that others were talking about, namely a dodgy keyboard and the inability to activate CAPS Lock. It is then that I discovered that I had NOT received the 3.1 upgrade, but rather, something below. Here is what I found when I looked at Settings > About device.
Android Version: 3.0.1
Kernel Version: 2.6.36.3
Build Number: ACER_A500_1.141.07_COM_GEN1
Whatever version this is, it too is not quite ready for prime time. I hope they release a reliable update soon!

That is the Build that I had to be at before I was moved to Build Number ACER_A500_4.010.08_COM_GEN2 and VER 3.1.
Good luck with your new A500 hope you like it as much as I like mine.

ok, i just got off the phone with a senior acer tech, yes and actual technician not from india. So this should put your mind at ease. Acer sold more units then they expected and it resulted in google not having enough server to service all of the android devices. So for example acer put out 4 million units but there is only 3.7 million on the google registery as of yet. all the people including my self that have 2 units and one updated and on didn't will have to wait a little. PS the 3.1 update is loaded with bugs as well. Don't think it's the holy grail.
problems with 3.1 are less then 3.0.1 but they are there like random closes, slow downs even though it's doing nothing, late coming out of sleep and wifi issues and still no support for external hard drive, and most keyboards don't work.
all in all if you don't have it yet it's coming, if you do well wish and hope for 3.2 update soon like me

mnaderi said:
PS the 3.1 update is loaded with bugs as well. Don't think it's the holy grail.
problems with 3.1 are less then 3.0.1 but they are there like random closes, slow downs even though it's doing nothing, late coming out of sleep and wifi issues and still no support for external hard drive, and most keyboards don't work.
all in all if you don't have it yet it's coming, if you do well wish and hope for 3.2 update soon like me
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You're kidding - and after I got right royally slapped for saying exactly the same thing a month ago.
Just proves this place is chock full of fanbois.. (them, not you)

lolz @ mnaderi. my experience has been completely opposite. i've been on 3.1 for about a week now and it's waaaaay better than 3.0.1. the browser is much smoother and rarely ever force closes. hooked up my keyboard and mouse, no issues at all. hdmi out to my 1080p tv. everything is working great. i will admit it does have a few bugs here and there but compared to 3.0.1 it is a very nice improvement. i've had far less issues. i'm even using the stock launcher because i can resize the widgets now. was using launcher pro previously. all in all, a great update. still waiting for my mom's iconia to say its ready to be updated to 3.1. got the 1.141 update last night.
btw, i've never rooted my iconia. these things are too new, it's not worth rooting right now because the development is so weak. i'll give it another 6 months when we start seeing some really nice custom ROM's from some of the amazing developers on xda.

tekmoe said:
lolz @ mnaderi. my experience has been completely opposite. i've been on 3.1 for about a week now and it's waaaaay better than 3.0.1. the browser is much smoother and rarely ever force closes. hooked up my keyboard and mouse, no issues at all. hdmi out to my 1080p tv. everything is working great. i will admit it does have a few bugs here and there but compared to 3.0.1 it is a very nice improvement. i've had far less issues. i'm even using the stock launcher because i can resize the widgets now. was using launcher pro previously. all in all, a great update. still waiting for my mom's iconia to say its ready to be updated to 3.1. got the 1.141 update last night.
btw, i've never rooted my iconia. these things are too new, it's not worth rooting right now because the development is so weak. i'll give it another 6 months when we start seeing some really nice custom ROM's from some of the amazing developers on xda.
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I agree that development is weak, but I root for getting rid of ads and access to all folders (and a restart button on screen).

New Release end of July

I've been in close contact via email with Acer and reporting all the problems and so on.
And now the latest email I got was saying they are not sure about the exact date of release but that it will definately be in the end of july. But they did not state what issues they would fix.
Just sharing some info.
Cheers!

Thanks for sharing.

the information my contact gave me was very blurry...
something about 3.2 and A100.
also about the Iconia Smart

Thanks to the Senior Members
Thanks to the senior members from a newbie for staying on top of 3.1 release of honeycomb for the A500. It's very fustrating not knowing when the release is coming out and not getting squat from Acer for information. I've only had my Iconia for 6 weeks and I'm holding out paying any money for Apps or rooting my tablet until the new version comes out but my patience is wearing out. Do you think that's the right strategy.

Why hold out on buying apps? Anything you buy now isn't going to suddenly stop working with 3.1...
Same goes for rooting, really. It's an easy process to undo, and 3.1 is already out and rooted, there's just an unconfirmed rumour that it has been temporarily withdrawn.

And besides that, even after a hard reset you can still download your previously bought apps without having to pay for them again. Google knows how to remember what you bought

And you need to root to create a system backup. My device for example updated to a "dud" - a firmware that was withdrawn and couldn't update further. Had to flash the right update.zip upgrade to be able to get 3.1.

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And you need to root to create a system backup. My device for example updated to a "dud" - a firmware that was withdrawn and couldn't update further. Had to flash the right update.zip upgrade to be able to get 3.1.
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I think it's the same case for me. I had a nandroid backup of my official firmware before going custom. Sad to say, it seems that the OTA update I had was a dud like yours. It updated to Acer_A500_1.126.03_COM_GEN1 and I was unable to get any updates.

Constant negative responnses
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Why hold out on buying apps? Anything you buy now isn't going to suddenly stop working with 3.1...
Same goes for rooting, really. It's an easy process to undo, and 3.1 is already out and rooted, there's just an unconfirmed rumour that it has been temporarily withdrawn.
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Really.. uncomfirmed rumour that t has been temporarily withdrawn? Is that why I can no longer get it? I read your posts and so often they flame.. Just like the rumour of global warming right?

lanisan said:
Really.. uncomfirmed rumour that t has been temporarily withdrawn? Is that why I can no longer get it? I read your posts and so often they flame.. Just like the rumour of global warming right?
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Huh? What the f--- are you talking about? I'm not flaming anyone, just telling the OP there's zero need to wait regarding buying apps from the market.
Get back under your bridge, troll.

Im thinking Acer is trying to conserve resources. Instead of working thruball the bugs are waiting for Google's release.then making there adjustments. And pushing big releases instead of a bunch of minor releases.and I think it might be best for everyone in the long run.less fragmentation with all the small updates
Again my openion only

So, basically, August.
I predict I'll get my update the 2nd week of - or later.

My Iconia updated without issue on the 9th. And aside from doing the double restet button to fix wifi, I've been enjoying all the new features and speed (the screen scrolling/swiping finally matches the rest and pricier other HC tablets).
As for the end of July date you posted, I think it might be HC 3.2 after reading this-
http://gizmodo.com/5820527/your-android-tablet-just-got-better-whats-new-in-android-32

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And besides that, even after a hard reset you can still download your previously bought apps without having to pay for them again. Google knows how to remember what you bought
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awesome.. I did not know that. Since we're on the subject of buying Apps I read on another post that some clown took apps and added some malware and a root kit to hack your system. I guess he got caught when someone noticed the new version wasn't being sold by the original developer or something like that. Anyway since I'm not that saavy yet is there a way to make sure I'm buying something that's clean.

FloatingFatMan said:
Why hold out on buying apps? Anything you buy now isn't going to suddenly stop working with 3.1...
Same goes for rooting, really. It's an easy process to undo, and 3.1 is already out and rooted, there's just an unconfirmed rumour that it has been temporarily withdrawn.
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Alrighty then... I guess I'll go back to the threads on rooting and give it a shot. Since I've got some droid heads here I can ask another dumb question. Once I root this puppy is there a way to get a terminal window to run some linux-like commands or am I out to lunch on that

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Alrighty then... I guess I'll go back to the threads on rooting and give it a shot. Since I've got some droid heads here I can ask another dumb question. Once I root this puppy is there a way to get a terminal window to run some linux-like commands or am I out to lunch on that
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Terminal emulator, I think that's it...In the market.

I've a question, do providers have to get extra bandwidth to push out updates, and could that be a factor why some of them might do it in batches so they don't have to pay up for extra bandwidth? Acer reps saying that the update may arrive in a week or two doesn't make sense when some have received their updates already even two successive builds in some cases :/

Did Acer kill the Iconia?

It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!

First, wrong section; you should know better by now.
Second, just because Acer have made it a bugger to root, doesn't mean the tablet is dead. It's absolutely useable without being rooted, and 99% of consumers don't actually give a monkeys about rooting, or even know what it actually is.
Hell, we get plenty of people on here asking what it is or what it's for...

New iconia is scheduled for Dec release but may get pushed back to january.

Interesting, you are posing that on XDA. We dont believe in Impossible to Root device. That is why people come to XDA; How to break what seem unbreakable or unlock what seem unlock-able. Just give some time, some genius will always find a way to kick some Corporate teeth in.

well wasnt it acer excuse not unlock the bootloader since honeycomb was not open source. I think that was one of their statements, so once we get updated to ICS maybe we all can start with a tweet assault on them again.
Not sure about u guys but I feel more comfortable recommending the xoom or asus tab just cause they are so open, same goes for those nook colors.

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It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.

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You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze

Seriously? Near impossible to root? This guy must be slow, because this was just insanely easy... been rooted for months and tried nearly every rom at least once, all easy as pie.

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LOL - that was exactly was I was thinking after reading the first post. I have got a Desire and rooted it with goldcard etc. - long before the newer and way easier methods were developed.
Yesterday I got my Iconia 501 with Stock HC 3.2 on it and rooting it was a real breeze
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Same thing with the original mytouch. I had to use a gold card and there were no less than 3 times during the process that i thought i had bricked it. i may be permanently scarred.
There have been many times i have rooted other devices including the iconia that i went searching for more steps because it was too easy.

ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha

ne too lol i was like...all i did was install an app, go to recovery, and flash rom ( give or take a few steps) and i did that the day i got it (sept 2011) and it took a few a mins, this thread confused the heck outta me lol
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ya i have the Desire S too and waited for ages for it to be rooted, the Iconia only took me a few minutes, don't really see what the difficulty is, thought this was an old thread haha
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Cactus42 said:
You should look at the older phones like the Desire and before that if you think its hard to root here, you'd probably cry at the thought of creating a gold card.
How people complain that a rooting process that takes all of 15 minutes and a couple of reboots is hard is beyond me. In 3.1 and below all you have to do is download a file from the market. In 3.2 you have to run one update file from recovery, install the aforementioned files from the market, then flash one of the ROMs from here - such as the completely stable completely standard 3.2 ROMs, or the excellent and completely stable Thor ROMs. If that's too difficult for people then maybe they shouldn't be attempting it on something that cost them £300.
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Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!

lanisan said:
Hello there... one day I found my camera lense cracked and I sent it in for repair. upon return it had 3.2 on it (my icona a500) since then I have not found a way to root 3.2. I have looked on the threads and until your comment I havent found a way to root 3.2. Would you be so kind as to pm me or post the thread link here please? Its laggy as hell on stock and I want to root and get rid of the bloat ware. Thanks!!
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A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....

When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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BrianDigital said:
When is there going to be something flashable in this thread
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When you learn to find it and come and post it here? It's pretty well documented, and other than the crap threads that get posted in here like this one, pretty well organized.

tumpy said:
A member since 2007 and you cannot find a way to root your acer, you either don't read at all or don't understand what you are reading.. any one that really need to root their acer already did so including myself....
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1136 right here it is 3hreadsown from this one. Giggles even a blonde can find it
This is inbwrong thread sorry for my post all

I rooted my tablet right after I got it in May. Then when the 3.2 update came out, I went back to stock unrooted and ran that way until this morning when I realized I wanted to change my navigation buttons. Downgraded, rooted, installed CWM and flashed the rooted stock 3.2 and was back in business in like 20 minutes maybe. Would've been done quicker, but I had to pause to make some more coffee. Didn't even lose any of my data or apps. I don't know how you measure easy, but by my measure, its a cake walk. A cake walk where you actually win cake, instead of awkwardly shuffling around in a circle with strangers thinking that if you win it might all be worth it, only to have some snot nosed little turd walk away with the very cake you wanted, and you go home and weep gently into your pillow because you never win, and no one ever seems to see that all you want is to be loved, oh God, why can't someone just love you...sorry I digress.

lol i rooted mine like the first 15 minutes that it was out of the box. I don't like not overclocking

Vintage144 said:
It just seems like they made it impossible to root , reverting back is fine I suppose and searching for other roms (which may or may not be stable ,use at your own risk) !
Ive seen some of the smartest people in XDA and I cant seem to figure out why other tablets using the same updates have been rooted but not the iconia ? The writing is on the wall for this tablet , expect to see a new version soon (just in time for Christmas)!
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And this thread belongs in the DEV area.
Mods must be on Thanksgiving break already

Back to the OT! Did Acer Kill the Iconia?
Here it is.... Plain and simple.... Acer is killing the the Iconia since they are taking their time to produce good accessories for it. Also, what were they thinking in giving the power adapter such a short cord?
Other than that.... I love my A500, and would not mind upgrading to a the Tegra3 version.

Kindle Fire OTA software update coming in less than two weeks

In the wake of many user complaints about web browsing speeds and other performance issues, Amazon has told the New York Times that it will be releasing a software update for the Kindle Fire "in less than two weeks." That timeframe would put this new software update about a month after the 6.2 update released at the end of November.
http://www.theverge.com/2011/12/11/...ta-software-update-coming-less-than-two-weeks

Oh God lol, now I have to root again....
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Well hopefully this time it will be at least a worthwhile update. instead of a no visible difference update like the last one or take away a feature like the one before that.
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Let's hope the Development get a solid kernel and Rom by then...I don't want to be stock when they update the bootloader and lock it down after all the returned rooted and bricked fires due to people testing kernels that didn't know what they were doing and then returning them.....
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Lets hope some concrete updates...... But wht about some hardware issues......
http://mirolta.com/2011/12/12/amazo...for-kindle-fire-to-encounter-critical-issues/

The OTA will be a non-issue as much as the 6.2 update was. Sure you might have to reroot but Big Deal! That took all of a 30 seconds to do again.
Stuff about Amazon changing to a locked bootloader ignores the fact that most people never root or modify their device. The ones that do are a very miniscule minority of the total users that have the unit. Besides, has any device manufacturer locked a bootloader for a device that was originally released as unlocked? I don't think so.
I bet a lot more units are returned due to some malfunction than due to some someone screwing up their unit trying to modify it.
My wife has her unit stock... no mods, no tweaks, just uses it the way it came. I have mine rooted, different launcher and tons of apps that I have loaded from Android Market or side loaded via other means. I think the device is great for the price.
People who use forums like this have a very skewed idea of how many people actually modify their devices... most never do, never know about it and don't even know forums like this.

krelvinaz said:
The OTA will be a non-issue as much as the 6.2 update was. Sure you might have to reroot but Big Deal! That took all of a 30 seconds to do again.
Stuff about Amazon changing to a locked bootloader ignores the fact that most people never root or modify their device. The ones that do are a very miniscule minority of the total users that have the unit. Besides, has any device manufacturer locked a bootloader for a device that was originally released as unlocked? I don't think so.
I bet a lot more units are returned due to some malfunction than due to some someone screwing up their unit trying to modify it.
My wife has her unit stock... no mods, no tweaks, just uses it the way it came. I have mine rooted, different launcher and tons of apps that I have loaded from Android Market or side loaded via other means. I think the device is great for the price.
People who use forums like this have a very skewed idea of how many people actually modify their devices... most never do, never know about it and don't even know forums like this.
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Exactly ... That's a well explained post

Yeah, companies lock bootloaders for concrete reasons. They are not going to all of a sudden lock the device down a month after it was released just to mess with modders. Because that is literally the only thing it would do.
The Nook Tablet, for instance... I believe the reason the bootloader is locked is because they had to as part of an agreement with Netflix to provide higher quality streaming to the device. B&N decided that annoying the tiny minority of modders was worth it in exchange for high quality Netflix streaming - something that a much larger percentage of users can benefit from and of course an extra marketing bullet point for them to use.
I'm fine with them updating the device. Look at all the Android phones that don't get regular updates. All people do is whine about NOT getting updated! The KF is some great hardware for the price but it still has issues. Touchscreen responsiveness still needs to be improved, battery life REALLY needs to be improved, and they have to fix the sleep of death as well. I will GLADLY go through the hassle of re-rooting and re-installing the market if these things are fixed.
Of course I'd prefer to have a custom ROM so I can get updates without having to redo all that stuff, but it's only a matter of time.

please, dear god, let non-rooted users change the lockscreen wallpaper

Is there a way yet to block OTA updates (that is also easy to reverse)?
Don't want to be caught with my pants down by this update if it does more than anticipated ....

andTab said:
Is there a way yet to block OTA updates (that is also easy to reverse)?
Don't want to be caught with my pants down by this update if it does more than anticipated ....
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Haven't read through it, but this post seems to cover it.

ryanlbowen said:
please, dear god, let non-rooted users change the lockscreen wallpaper
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This. 10char

Also hoping for a clean re-root-only response to this update... I have it stowed away as a gift for my wife, and take it out at night to perform nerd-surgery. It would be great to not have issues right before holiday, as it's going to be enough fun explaining the different launchers, etc.

ReverseWolf said:
Also hoping for a clean re-root-only response to this update... I have it stowed away as a gift for my wife, and take it out at night to perform nerd-surgery. It would be great to not have issues right before holiday, as it's going to be enough fun explaining the different launchers, etc.
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I have nothing to contribute to this, just lmfao at your analogy of what you do late at night. ;-)
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andTab said:
Is there a way yet to block OTA updates (that is also easy to reverse)?
Don't want to be caught with my pants down by this update if it does more than anticipated ....
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Not the best solution, but it's easy: turn off wireless.
You don't need a widget for this, but it's nice. I recently installed a power control widget ( I used Widgetsoid ) to allow me to turn off wireless ( as well as adjust brightness, volume, toggle USB, and turn off GPS ).
Since I'm mostly content with my setup for now, I leave the wireless turned off to conserve battery and avoid the next update. I'd rather wait until I hear from the good folks here that the next update is OKAY before I turn on wireless and let it update. In the meantime, if I need wireless, I can check here just to be sure there is no update waiting to be pushed, flip on the wireless, do what I need, then turn it back off.
Like I said, it's not the best solution, but it works for me, and it's really simple.

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Also hoping for a clean re-root-only response to this update... I have it stowed away as a gift for my wife, and take it out at night to perform nerd-surgery. It would be great to not have issues right before holiday, as it's going to be enough fun explaining the different launchers, etc.
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Let me ask you something- same situation here.. My wife's just came in the mail today. I'd like to know more about device setup before said "nerd surgery" as I want to do a similar thing.. Did you login with your own amazon account or hers? If I login w/ hers I don't want her to get a "Congrats on your Kindle registration" type of email- as this is a surprise after all.. But- I'm also thinking that if I go ahead and login w/ mine- anything I do as far as loading apps, etc will be wiped out when she has to login w/ hers?
Sorry to be long winded- overall my main question is- Whats the best way to tinker/root/play with this thing w/o giving away any surprises or having to re-do work?

I'd leave it in the box. When my wife's came, she wanted it right away. It auto registered to MY account, not hers. Didn't add anything to it, it just happened.
I had to deregister it and then reregister it to her account. Doing so is like a default reset.
Also, it is going to auto update at least once as they come with 6.1 and 6.2 is the current. Might even be 6.3 or whatever the new OTA is by the time she opens it.

Do you remember if she got an email when you deregistered and assigned it to her account?

Dont recall. I don't read her email so I don't know and I did a quick check of my email and don't see anything either...

I definitely got an email when I registered mine.
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