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My 1st gen Vibrant, advice

Hello,
I really love the screen on this phone, the hardware capabilities (720p rec, etc.) and although newer and better processors in phones are coming out I like this 1 enough to hold me over for a long time.
so here is my issue:
I purchased my vibrant about 2 weeks after came out, and the biggest problem I faced initially was the problem with the gps. At this point I have not even use gps is the first month I bought it, instead I just use google maps in follow the directions it gives me.
Since that time, I have rooted my phone. I was really happy to get the first update that was rolled out, even though it was rooted. I have heard of all the difference solutions to fix the gps but is it really worth the effort to practically void my warranty even further than rooting it by opening it up and trying to solder whatever antenna is in there.
Now I know my phone is covered under samsung warranty. I should also mention the other big problem I have with it is the battery life. If I can fix these 2 issues I would love the phone forever.
here's my question:
is it feasible and worth the effort to get my phone returned back to samsung so that the battery and gps are of the newest generation?
does anyone have experience doing this and how willing is samsung to work with me?
Finally if I do end up getting a replacement then I know I will have to un root my phone before I send it to samsung. I'm not stupid but I just haven't flashed any roms before. if I did get my phone back to stock settings, then would I lose all of the applications and I paid for and all the customization I have done to the phone (contacts, accounts, data)?
also just curious but I haven't received the 2.2 over the air update yet am I even going to get it since my phone is rooted? I figure I may as well try 2.2 before I actually send in the phone.
I know these are a lot of questions but I really like this phone and I want to get it to work.
thank you and I appreciate any suggestions or advice for me.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

New and old Vibrants alike have GPS problem.
I don't have an answer to all your questions, but what I can tell you is that you should not wait for your phone to update to 2.2 because it is an over-the-air update.
Follow these instructions if you want to update your phone:
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Samsu...-upgrade-to-Android-2-2-Froyo-now/td-p/678871

As far as I've heard the newer ones after 10/10 don't seem to have the same problem. It may be worth it to take it to the store and show them how bad the GPS is. They may exchange it for you. I'd unroot and go back to stock first.
That won't address the battery issue, but that's generic to most of these newer phones. You can do tweaks to get more life out of them, but that seems to be about it.

if I unroot and go back to stock is it going to erase my applications and contacts, and settings?
I bought it online so I would have to send it back to letstalk.com, I'll have to check out the return policy.
thanks for the replies.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App

You will not lose your paid apps, they are tied to your google account. Use titanium backup before you unroot your phone to backup all your data, including app data. When you get your new phone, you will have to reroot and then you can restore everything from titanium.
You can try to get a warrantly replacement from Samsung rather than using letstalk, I think it's a pain to exchange with them, but I'm not sure.

As said above, Titanium backup will handle it. I have my phone from someone on this board, so I had to go directly with Samsung. Once I could get the tech support person to understand the phone just didn't work it was easier. Don't know how that would go with the GPS. Mine was for the phone not working as a phone, ie, no connection to the network.

zharptitza said:
As far as I've heard the newer ones after 10/10 don't seem to have the same problem. It may be worth it to take it to the store and show them how bad the GPS is. They may exchange it for you. I'd unroot and go back to stock first.
That won't address the battery issue, but that's generic to most of these newer phones. You can do tweaks to get more life out of them, but that seems to be about it.
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I find that to be incorrect. My Vibrant has a 11.01 (2011 January) build date on it and the gps is horrible. I've tried every rom, but I do notice the gps being a little more better with certain roms.
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Here is my story:
I phone up t-mobile and say my GPS doesn't work. They made me go through a four day dance trying stuff, but if it doesn't work, it doesn't work.
They then replaced it with a brand new phone.
And they charged me $10 shipping & handling for the new phone.
Before the phone never could reliably get and hold on to a GPS lock; afterwards it locks in seconds and never drops.

Hmm, threads I had seen were saying it was better. I have an older one that I just fixed myself. I was hoping they'd gotten their act together and fixed their antenna construction. Its such a simple thing to fix, you'd think they'd do it at the plant.

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zharptitza said:
As far as I've heard the newer ones after 10/10 don't seem to have the same problem. It may be worth it to take it to the store and show them how bad the GPS is. They may exchange it for you. I'd unroot and go back to stock first.
That won't address the battery issue, but that's generic to most of these newer phones. You can do tweaks to get more life out of them, but that seems to be about it.
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False, I've personally used Vibrants made after 10/10 and the GPS is no better than ones produced earlier.
There is no change in hardware, and it has never been proven that a hardware revision on the GPS was made on phones manufactured after 10/10. Just speculation and rumor.

SamsungVibrant said:
False, I've personally used Vibrants made after 10/10 and the GPS is no better than ones produced earlier.
There is no change in hardware, and it has never been proven that a hardware revision on the GPS was made on phones manufactured after 10/10. Just speculation and rumor.
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Yeah, I think I've got to agree on this one.
In the gps case, I really think it is really a hit or miss issue. My gps works pretty decently but my hubby's doesn't work at all. Even when we were both stock, I could lock on some birds but his was never able to. On top of that, when I flashed Nero onto my phone, my gps got even better. Granted, I don't think it would ever see a thing if it was working on standalone; but with wireless networks on, this thing would (and has) pinpoint(ed) me on a moving train accurately.
Aside from firmwares (now), the only difference between them was the build dates: his - 07/10, mine - 09/10.

New Release end of July

I've been in close contact via email with Acer and reporting all the problems and so on.
And now the latest email I got was saying they are not sure about the exact date of release but that it will definately be in the end of july. But they did not state what issues they would fix.
Just sharing some info.
Cheers!

Thanks for sharing.

the information my contact gave me was very blurry...
something about 3.2 and A100.
also about the Iconia Smart

Thanks to the Senior Members
Thanks to the senior members from a newbie for staying on top of 3.1 release of honeycomb for the A500. It's very fustrating not knowing when the release is coming out and not getting squat from Acer for information. I've only had my Iconia for 6 weeks and I'm holding out paying any money for Apps or rooting my tablet until the new version comes out but my patience is wearing out. Do you think that's the right strategy.

Why hold out on buying apps? Anything you buy now isn't going to suddenly stop working with 3.1...
Same goes for rooting, really. It's an easy process to undo, and 3.1 is already out and rooted, there's just an unconfirmed rumour that it has been temporarily withdrawn.

And besides that, even after a hard reset you can still download your previously bought apps without having to pay for them again. Google knows how to remember what you bought

And you need to root to create a system backup. My device for example updated to a "dud" - a firmware that was withdrawn and couldn't update further. Had to flash the right update.zip upgrade to be able to get 3.1.

Bec07 said:
And you need to root to create a system backup. My device for example updated to a "dud" - a firmware that was withdrawn and couldn't update further. Had to flash the right update.zip upgrade to be able to get 3.1.
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I think it's the same case for me. I had a nandroid backup of my official firmware before going custom. Sad to say, it seems that the OTA update I had was a dud like yours. It updated to Acer_A500_1.126.03_COM_GEN1 and I was unable to get any updates.

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FloatingFatMan said:
Why hold out on buying apps? Anything you buy now isn't going to suddenly stop working with 3.1...
Same goes for rooting, really. It's an easy process to undo, and 3.1 is already out and rooted, there's just an unconfirmed rumour that it has been temporarily withdrawn.
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Really.. uncomfirmed rumour that t has been temporarily withdrawn? Is that why I can no longer get it? I read your posts and so often they flame.. Just like the rumour of global warming right?

lanisan said:
Really.. uncomfirmed rumour that t has been temporarily withdrawn? Is that why I can no longer get it? I read your posts and so often they flame.. Just like the rumour of global warming right?
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Huh? What the f--- are you talking about? I'm not flaming anyone, just telling the OP there's zero need to wait regarding buying apps from the market.
Get back under your bridge, troll.

Im thinking Acer is trying to conserve resources. Instead of working thruball the bugs are waiting for Google's release.then making there adjustments. And pushing big releases instead of a bunch of minor releases.and I think it might be best for everyone in the long run.less fragmentation with all the small updates
Again my openion only

So, basically, August.
I predict I'll get my update the 2nd week of - or later.

My Iconia updated without issue on the 9th. And aside from doing the double restet button to fix wifi, I've been enjoying all the new features and speed (the screen scrolling/swiping finally matches the rest and pricier other HC tablets).
As for the end of July date you posted, I think it might be HC 3.2 after reading this-
http://gizmodo.com/5820527/your-android-tablet-just-got-better-whats-new-in-android-32

jacobras said:
And besides that, even after a hard reset you can still download your previously bought apps without having to pay for them again. Google knows how to remember what you bought
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awesome.. I did not know that. Since we're on the subject of buying Apps I read on another post that some clown took apps and added some malware and a root kit to hack your system. I guess he got caught when someone noticed the new version wasn't being sold by the original developer or something like that. Anyway since I'm not that saavy yet is there a way to make sure I'm buying something that's clean.

FloatingFatMan said:
Why hold out on buying apps? Anything you buy now isn't going to suddenly stop working with 3.1...
Same goes for rooting, really. It's an easy process to undo, and 3.1 is already out and rooted, there's just an unconfirmed rumour that it has been temporarily withdrawn.
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Alrighty then... I guess I'll go back to the threads on rooting and give it a shot. Since I've got some droid heads here I can ask another dumb question. Once I root this puppy is there a way to get a terminal window to run some linux-like commands or am I out to lunch on that

paulmceh said:
Alrighty then... I guess I'll go back to the threads on rooting and give it a shot. Since I've got some droid heads here I can ask another dumb question. Once I root this puppy is there a way to get a terminal window to run some linux-like commands or am I out to lunch on that
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Terminal emulator, I think that's it...In the market.

I've a question, do providers have to get extra bandwidth to push out updates, and could that be a factor why some of them might do it in batches so they don't have to pay up for extra bandwidth? Acer reps saying that the update may arrive in a week or two doesn't make sense when some have received their updates already even two successive builds in some cases :/

[Q] Update on Furious at AT&T- NOT A RANT

Long story short; I sent the phone to a former NTSB investigator who confirmed what I already knew. Thermal damage.
The refurbished phone that they sent as a replacement was FULL of issues, so I had to have it replaced, as well. The camera would not focus, the sound recorder only recorded static, it wouldn't retain my preferences that I set in the phone, and randomly reverted to the default ringtone.
When I called back to get it replaced; I was greeted by a VERY friendly, helpful, and understanding representative who told me that the original claim WAS NOT handled properly. She overnighted a new phone and battery and asked me to return the original phone to a different address for examination. She agreed that they would probably just take one look at it and claim that it was physical damage. She reversed the charges for the replacement - even though I had the "Premium" insurance on it. She also noted that I had a written report with photos to verify that it was a manufacturing defect - with the obvious caveat that if there really was physical damage that I would have to pay the deductible. Naturally; I used my Sony video microscope to take photos of every angle of the phone, the edges, etc. - to prove that there wasn't so much as a single blemish anywhere on the phone that they could construe as being "physical damage" - aside from the obvious darkening to the inner plastic from the internal heat, and it was isolated to the rear of the display.
I got back in town early yesterday and the newest replacement was already waiting. I charged the battery and fired it up. So far; so good. Works like a champ. Bear in mind, it's been less than 24 hours...
Oddly; I didn't start having issues until AT&T forcefully crammed the firmware update down my throat. And, no; I had done no modifications - such as rooting or work-arounds to either phone. So; I actually have a legitimate question: Have any of you experienced any phantom issues with your S4's, post firmware (FM3, I think) update? I know that it gave me a message: "Updating Camera Firmware", and the camera would no longer focus. I took copious photos and videos with it and have saved them for reference. In the videos; you can see that the camera is constantly zooming in and out of focus - even though it was stationary, aimed at a fixed subject, and at a very reasonable distance. Many of my downloaded programs also no longer worked, or would freeze up for no apparent reason. They all had worked perfectly prior to the update, as well as on my previous Motorola Atrix HD. They still are working perfectly on the Atrix HD that I passed down to my kids, after I unlocked it, rooted it, and installed the Pac-Man 4.3 ROM. When I got the first replacement S4; it kept prompting me to download the firmware update, and I kept denying permission - in the event that I felt frisky enough to do some fancy footwork on it later down the road. One morning I woke up and it had a message on the screen: "Software Update Successful!" After I angrily cleared that screen, it gave me the message about updating my camera firmware. Now; I'd only had it a day or so, so I can't verify that everything was working properly before - it just seemed to be OK.
My next question is: Is there any way to block them from updating this phone, and constantly bombarding me and forcing me to install useless "bloatware" that I'll never use and only uses up more of my internal memory. I have the 32GB S4 so it's not a huge issue, but it's obnoxious, at the very least that they think that they know better than I do what I want to be installed on my phone. I can hide them, uninstall the updates and put them out of sight, but they're there, none the less, and I don't want them! Yeah; I know I agreed to their terms, but that just seems downright controlling and unfair. And, by the way; even if I do hide them, and uninstall the updates; they magically reappear in a few days and it seems like I'm constantly receiving messages prompting me to update them. Even if I decline; they download anyway. Sort of a "Wash, Rinse, Repeat" scenario.
OK; after my last nasty rant, I expect (and deserve) some nasty feedback, but I'd really appreciate any suggestions or insight to these issues. Any similar experiences? I'd been foaming at the mouth waiting to get this phone, but it seems like it's been one terrific headache after another. I've only owned Motorola phones (since 1985) until now. Motorola now seems lackluster compared to the newer models or I'd have never jumped ship. Now; it seems like I made a $700.00 mistake. I really hope I'm wrong and just unfamiliar with other manufacturers equipment. Save me from myself!
Thanks, everyone!
Nukesnooper

The Samsung updates are kind of like the old "Window Updates needs to restart, postpone for X hours." But if you leave it there, then it will reboot by itself. Kind of like this updated by itself. The only way to avoid updates is rooting the phone and freezing or deleting that service, or of course, changing ROMs. (But I believe you're on MF3 firmware now so..)
Other than that, can't say much as I have the T-Mobile variant.

If you have MDB or MDL firmware do this. It will stop AT&T updates. I would freeze anything that even looks like a Samsung updater also.
Link Here

Thanks!
~wolverine~ said:
If you have MDB or MDL firmware do this. It will stop AT&T updates. I would freeze anything that even looks like a Samsung updater also.
Link Here
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I guess the next obvious question is: "How?" I don't want to root the phone yet, but didn't think you could freeze any of their apps without rooting or modifying the stock firmware. I'm afraid to do any mods to it until I know it's going to be a stable device - and hence; not taking any chance of voiding my warranty. Sorry for what's probably a dumb question, but I'm new to modifying phones.
Also; what is the best way to sterilize the phone that I'm returning of contacts, remnants of uninstalled programs, etc?
Added: It already has the MF3 update installed. Grrr!
Thanks again!
NS

nukesnooper said:
Also; what is the best way to sterilize the phone that I'm returning of contacts, remnants of uninstalled programs, etc?
Added: It already has the MF3 update installed. Grrr!
Thanks again!
NS
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A factory reset from settings/accounts/backup & restore will wipe out all that. I would think it would be safe to do that with MF3, but I'm no expert. You might want to get other opinions also.

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~wolverine~ said:
A factory reset from settings/accounts/backup & restore will wipe out all that. I would think it would be safe to do that with MF3, but I'm no expert. You might want to get other opinions also.
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Great until I went to confirm that I was going to delete everything in my brain and give them a pint of virgin blood; then it asked for a "New Password" and wouldn't give me anything but a numeric keypad. Huh??? Sup wid dat? It wouldn't delete ANYTHING until I confirmed my "password" which isn't numeric at all, but gave me no other options. I'm going to try booting it up from "off" and see if there's a way to do it from there. FEAR.

Sharp Aquos Crystal 306SH Root/ROM and deets- Dev's only

I am donating my Sharp Aquos Crystal to ONLY THE BEST DEVELOPERS. Its beat up and its been abused but there is potential in the phone for root, ROM and Mods. I will pick the developer and i'm basically hoping to send it to the best only! Please message me and let me know if you have any interest in doing substantial research on this phone and taking its code apart. I already tried and it needs a 3rd party program to access the boot-loader portion of the file system and ill tell you which one an provide a dropbox link to the loader you can download to get into it. I could easily take it apart and find a back-door but i work too often and cannot find the time to tear it down properly and look for vulnerabilities for free; Thus i am donating this phone as i will be replacing it with one i never dropped on the floor ;p cosmetically challenged yes, functionally operational YES. comes with a charger, box and receipt? YES. I want this phone to be developed into the most reliable and functional phone possible and if i have to do all the work myself... well i wont. or at least i wont share my findings if i have to spend time away from my family which is why i am DONATING this phone. I am a programmer for a very nice search engine we all use and i have already found 2 back-doors into the phone which i will also send over via PM. the problem is i cannot access the loader or storage from a PC using the standard drivers, only from within the phone. I need your help! You get a free beat up phone, and the opportunity to play with it. It will come loaded with Boost Unlimited to test the MMS, 4G, Calls etc. but i will only pay for 1 month. you MUST figure it out within 1 month! I can only spend 2 hours on my saturdays playing with it and i went back to my rooted G3 because it beats the Aquos in every category except for sleek design. however, i think this phone can be a powerhouse for entry level users and with its power i know it can be everyone's favorite device. I want ROMS. I want unattended root and i want this thing to be the leader in aftermarket mods. Can we make it happen? idk we will have to see. The CM team shot it down instantly and said SHARP will not release the loader in the US but i dont work for SHARP, so here in beautiful southern california i am safe playing with the software and you will be ok because no laws restrict us to OpenWare software like the rest of the messed up planet. I have permission from google to modify the software strictly for research so we are clear.
Message me and lets get this show on the road.
ill send it out via UPS and expect to see results in 1 month
-Jax Haxor
The Linux Guru
Windows Tester
Android for Lyfe
Lakai-The Shoes We Skate
Google works for me. I dont work for them

hey, ho... tonight i rooted my Crystal ( 306SH-Sprint ). We can talk later abut my method to root.
tell me what u need from my phone.
Kernel?
2nd Stage Loader?

Please I'd like to know how you did that.
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skydsler said:
hey, ho... tonight i rooted my Crystal ( 306SH-Sprint ). We can talk later abut my method to root.
tell me what u need from my phone.
Kernel?
2nd Stage Loader?
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hi?how can I connected with you from facebook? My name on facebook is '??'

skydsler said:
hey, ho... tonight i rooted my Crystal ( 306SH-Sprint ). We can talk later abut my method to root.
tell me what u need from my phone.
Kernel?
2nd Stage Loader?
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hi?how can I connected with you from facebook? My name on facebook is '王迈' ，thank you a lot.wait for your reply.

jack_famous said:
I am donating my Sharp Aquos Crystal to ONLY THE BEST DEVELOPERS. Its beat up and its been abused but there is potential in the phone for root, ROM and Mods. I will pick the developer and i'm basically hoping to send it to the best only! Please message me and let me know if you have any interest in doing substantial research on this phone and taking its code apart. I already tried and it needs a 3rd party program to access the boot-loader portion of the file system and ill tell you which one an provide a dropbox link to the loader you can download to get into it. I could easily take it apart and find a back-door but i work too often and cannot find the time to tear it down properly and look for vulnerabilities for free; Thus i am donating this phone as i will be replacing it with one i never dropped on the floor ;p cosmetically challenged yes, functionally operational YES. comes with a charger, box and receipt? YES. I want this phone to be developed into the most reliable and functional phone possible and if i have to do all the work myself... well i wont. or at least i wont share my findings if i have to spend time away from my family which is why i am DONATING this phone. I am a programmer for a very nice search engine we all use and i have already found 2 back-doors into the phone which i will also send over via PM. the problem is i cannot access the loader or storage from a PC using the standard drivers, only from within the phone. I need your help! You get a free beat up phone, and the opportunity to play with it. It will come loaded with Boost Unlimited to test the MMS, 4G, Calls etc. but i will only pay for 1 month. you MUST figure it out within 1 month! I can only spend 2 hours on my saturdays playing with it and i went back to my rooted G3 because it beats the Aquos in every category except for sleek design. however, i think this phone can be a powerhouse for entry level users and with its power i know it can be everyone's favorite device. I want ROMS. I want unattended root and i want this thing to be the leader in aftermarket mods. Can we make it happen? idk we will have to see. The CM team shot it down instantly and said SHARP will not release the loader in the US but i dont work for SHARP, so here in beautiful southern california i am safe playing with the software and you will be ok because no laws restrict us to OpenWare software like the rest of the messed up planet. I have permission from google to modify the software strictly for research so we are clear.
Message me and lets get this show on the road.
ill send it out via UPS and expect to see results in 1 month
-Jax Haxor
The Linux Guru
Windows Tester
Android for Lyfe
Lakai-The Shoes We Skate
Google works for me. I dont work for them
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its mean that you didn't got root from this phone?

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skydsler said:
hey, ho... tonight i rooted my Crystal ( 306SH-Sprint ). We can talk later abut my method to root.
tell me what u need from my phone.
Kernel?
2nd Stage Loader?
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I already shipped the phone out to Palo Alto, CA. I have purchased another 306SH and I am waiting to hear back from the developer, a friend of mine from college. Hopefully by the end of the month we will have unattended root with a rom compatibility list. He has all the time we need to test and program the phone. I couldn't get past ROM upload without bricking the thing so maybe he will discover a better method. Like I said in my original post I only have a few hours a week to play with the code and its not enough time to test any configuration changes without losing my daily driver. (since my company blackberry doesnt make calls outside of company contacts list, I needed my personal phone still, but already replaced it.)
As far as the loader goes, i found a way in using ODIN4 but the newest update locked out the back door so once again i was stuck; my buddy is going to have to find another way into the folder. I will keep everyone posted on the results as i will be testing the first round next weekend. I'm currently playing in Kitchen with CM12 and testing the drivers in my box so worst case scenario i will find the right ROM config and stabilize it so we have at least 1 modifiable ROM to mess around with. I will release download links this coming weekend for the Alpha Release CM12 ROM and with any luck, we will have unattended root as well. I see great things coming soon for this device.
I am also working on a nice little camera mod that we will all use daily from an unreleased packet @ work and cooking it up for the Aquos so stay tuned! it should apk install on factory firmware which is what i will be testing after thursday evening.
Standby team Actual, We will have results soon Hooah!
-JaxHaxor
You're friendly neighborhood Haxor

no i am not connecting on Facebook sorry.

wangxiantaoye said:
its mean that you didn't got root from this phone?
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Successful root was achieved before i shipped it out using company software however i cannot release corporate software to the public since i have no way to remove it from the building (and i value my career.) but soon enough, i will provide source and links to the backdoor once we find the next one in the update. I just wish Sharp wasn't so dang grumpy about releasing their crap OS to developers. If they did, i'm sure most of the android community would be picking these 306's up off the shelves at an alarming rate. Oh well, sucks to be Sharp USA. When they want to collaborate to ID security risks, I will give them the exact same answer they gave me- "Nope i dont care who you are, you are not getting our OS pack or loader software."
hahaha we will see about that ;p
-JaxHaxor
Newport Beach, CA
Already broke windows 10- they paid me so much to show them how ;p

jack_famous said:
I already shipped the phone out to Palo Alto, CA. I have purchased another 306SH
I am also working on a nice little camera mod that we will all use daily from an unreleased packet @ work and cooking it up for the Aquos so stay tuned! it should apk install on factory firmware which is what i will be testing after thursday evening.
Standby team Actual, We will have results soon Hooah!
-JaxHaxor
You're friendly neighborhood Haxor
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wait for your testing after thursday evening and root is the first importent thing..

jack_famous said:
Successful root was achieved before i shipped it out using company software however i cannot release corporate software to the public since i have no way to remove it from the building (and i value my career.) but soon enough, i will provide source and links to the backdoor once we find the next one in the update. I just wish Sharp wasn't so dang grumpy about releasing their crap OS to developers. If they did, i'm sure most of the android community would be picking these 306's up off the shelves at an alarming rate. Oh well, sucks to be Sharp USA. When they want to collaborate to ID security risks, I will give them the exact same answer they gave me- "Nope i dont care who you are, you are not getting our OS pack or loader software."
hahaha we will see about that ;p
-JaxHaxor
Newport Beach, CA
Already broke windows 10- they paid me so much to show them how ;p
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Is there any good news for us about 306sh??

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wangxiantaoye said:
Is there any good news for us about 306sh??
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Nope, in fact the opposite. My friend couldn't get into the phone so I drove up to Palo Alto to help him out friday night over the past weekend and it was a train wreck. We salvaged the OP and called it quits first thing yesterday morning. He showed me his progress which was about as far as i got as well. So we threw the broken Aquos at a wall and I sold the nice new black one I purchased, to some guy off CraigsList for $30. Sorry guys but it needs too much work and without Sharp (Shāpu Kabushiki-gaisha) providing any information as to what driver/ loader sequence it is we need to tap into the chip via 3rd party, Its a lost cause. (my work console gets into it in under 30 seconds, tho it's very illegal and cannot be replicated without losing my career.) We tried everything for 20 hours straight the first day and 12 hours the 2nd when I finally stood up and tossed the phone down something like 4 flights of stairs and off the balcony. surprisingly enough, it didn't break easily.
I don't have time to tear down the code in terminal and cook the exploit since my job is 50 hours a week already. Any more wasted time on this project and I'll lose my car, job and likely my wife.
I recommend selling the crap Aquos and getting the S6 Edge, which I just picked up today. I already have root access using ODIN and a modified exploit i found on a chinese website and i'm working on a ROM for it as we speak.
Its just a damn shame that Sharp doesn't want their products to take off here in the States, seeing how well the Aquos performs. I explained it to them and they just said "nope! we will press charges if you pursue any further modification."
So Thats the end of that. sorry guys i really tried and my buddy worked for an entire week and only got to where i was after the first 48 hours. I see the exploit looking through the logs, but i was told federal charges will be filed if i release the exploit to the public in the form of auto-run APK which i also could not get running properly. It all comes down to the platform.
They didnt say anything about publiclysharing the code tho. I am having my wife look over the documents for legality issues and if she cant find anything stating raw-code release is applicable, i will release my logs from work and all the project work we have so far. its about 11gbs of logs and code and a few extra gigs of failed modified programs we wrote. Like i said, we tried it all
Perhaps one of you more fine tuned developers can work through my data and see what sort of application will backdoor into the system. As it stands today though, The latest firmware release is tighter than a tick's a$$ and downgrading is about as hard as getting weed legal in federal court.
As my buddy Rob says: "Basically, I can get into iOS' Pants in 12 minutes, but Sharp's Loader is wearing an electrified chastity belt and that b17CH swallowed the keys. We either wait for the next release and modify the stock update so it thinks it's a normal update, or wait for the company to get hammered and drop the pants to let us play."
I have absolute 0 hope for this device.
The Aquos is toasted as far as the modification community should be concerned.
Galaxy S6 Edge tho... This thing is a beast. Ill be releasing my findings tonight or tomorrow once i finalize this ROM modification (cooking up some extra settings, modifying prop and removing bloat + some LED and screen mods.)
I also pre-ordered the new Blackberry Venice that "supposedly runs android" through my companies pre-order form, so in the next couple months hopefully ill get my hands on that unit. BB's have been running Android/ linux based software for quite a while now (since 10.1) but it is emulated and not native. Hopefully, the "venice" developed by Samsung will yield some surprising performance and efficiency results that we all want and need.
Standby Team, I'm working as fast as i can, Hooah!
\\Your Friendly Neighborhood JaxHaxor
-Jack_Famous
Aquos=Obliterated
S6Edge=New/ in dev.
Still rocking the company Nextel-PTT BB 88xx Series
S6E findings will be posted in a separate thread. I will link the threads together in my next post.

jack_famous said:
I am donating my Sharp Aquos Crystal to ONLY THE BEST DEVELOPERS. Its beat up and its been abused but there is potential in the phone for root, ROM and Mods. I will pick the developer and i'm basically hoping to send it to the best only! Please message me and let me know if you have any interest in doing substantial research on this phone and taking its code apart. I could already tried and it needs a 3rd party program to access the boot-loader portion of the file system and ill tell you which one an provide a dropbox link to the loader you can download to get into it. I could easily take it apart and find a back-door but i work too often and cannot find the time to tear it down properly and look for vulnerabilities for free; Thus i am donating this phone as i will be replacing it with one i never dropped on the floor ;p cosmetically challenged yes, functionally operational YES. comes with a charger, box and receipt? YES. I want this phone to be developed into the most reliable and functional phone possible and if i have to do all the work myself... well i wont. or at least i wont share my findings if i have to spend time away from my family which is why i am DONATING this phone. I am a programmer for a very nice search engine we all use and i have already found 2 back-doors into the phone which i will also send over via PM. the problem is i cannot access the loader or storage from a PC using the standard drivers, only from within the phone. I need your help! You get a free beat up phone, and the opportunity to play with it. It will come loaded with Boost Unlimited to test the MMS, 4G, Calls etc. but i will only pay for 1 month. you MUST figure it out within 1 month! I can only spend 2 hours on my saturdays playing with it and i went back to my rooted G3 because it beats the Aquos in every category except for sleek design. however, i think this phone can be a powerhouse for entry level users and with its power i know it can be everyone's favorite device. I want ROMS. I want unattended root and i want this thing to be the leader in aftermarket mods. Can we make it happen? idk we will have to see. The CM team shot it down instantly and said SHARP will not release the loader in the US but i dont work for SHARP, so here in beautiful southern california i am safe playing with the software and you will be ok because no laws restrict us to OpenWare software like the rest of the messed up planet. I have permission from google to modify the software strictly for research so we are clear.
Message me and lets get this show on the road.
ill send it out via UPS and expect to see results in 1 month
-Jax Haxor
The Linux Guru
Windows Tester
Android for Lyfe
Lakai-The Shoes We Skate
Google works for me. I dont work for them
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Could you release the 3rd party program to us to get into bootloader? We'll go on the work to get root.

jack_famous said:
Successful root was achieved before i shipped it out using company software however i cannot release corporate software to the public since i have no way to remove it from the building (and i value my career.) but soon enough, i will provide source and links to the backdoor once we find the next one in the update. I just wish Sharp wasn't so dang grumpy about releasing their crap OS to developers. If they did, i'm sure most of the android community would be picking these 306's up off the shelves at an alarming rate. Oh well, sucks to be Sharp USA. When they want to collaborate to ID security risks, I will give them the exact same answer they gave me- "Nope i dont care who you are, you are not getting our OS pack or loader software."
hahaha we will see about that ;p
-JaxHaxor
Newport Beach, CA
Already broke windows 10- they paid me so much to show them how ;p
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thanks for information and for your work .. what happen with tools and code that you have can you share it?

ok guys im sorry i have been AWOL this week we started a new project and i just dove into it so we havn't had time to re-work the code. My wife says there is a clause in the paperwork Sharp sent me stating i cannot release any portion of their software whether modified or not. so basically all i can release is the collaborative work i've done with Rob which isnt much because its mostly factory firmware modifications and common knowledge. needless to say, There is a reason we salvaged the OP.
I know alot of you have sent PM asking for clues and access to my software. I have tried to reply to all of you but you need to change your security settings here on XDA because even though you can send me a message, i cannot reply.
I will be sending out the first batch of ADB run-around to PM's that actually go through. The only loophole we can find is private collab which is legal in the US so once i get the first round out, i will email from my personal account the rest of the changes we had made.
*Note* Google is offering $40k USD for the exploits in the new software so you can understand my hesitance to release any loaders that can potentially tap into most phones' firmware systems. That's like handing over 40k for free. Ill tune up and debug the programs rob and i built and send them out but they do not work for the 306. And since i dont have the 306 anymore, i cannot test any more modifications.
Fastboot isn't the way into the 306. you need to get your hands on the initial (Extremely buggy) release, modify the prop and boot directory, and then let the phone update to the new software with the new settings. It will blackout and sit on the Aquos emblem for like 30 minutes, but once recovered the root stays. thats the only way we got it to even try to respond but still no SU access and /detect-root shows no success however there is now root folder access. Then using ADB push the old OS back onto it and it will keep modified folder access for root but will not boot completely at this point. that's as far as we got and couldn't move past it. I asked a coworker last week about it and he gave me some new ideas, however i dont have the phone anymore and i don't plan on purchasing another one since i have moved onto the S6 Edge and another project from work.
Im sorry guys but i'm out of time on the 306. I tried for more than 2 months and its a no-go. I have heard of people gaining root and removing GSM lock, but they have way too much time invested and completely re-wrote the directories by hand.
If you are still dead set on the 306SH, Download the newest firmware, http://www.sharpusa.com/Support/ProductDetail.aspx?modelid=9FCA5482-7A08-1BF8-7AA9-F29AF5CB9A19 and unpack it. connect to ADB and \fastboot-dirw acc1. then # mount -o remount,rw -t rfs /dev/block/st19/system, # exit.
Here is the problem. Permissions are set by something else in the ROM and when you attempt to push anything other than a verified update, it crashes. Not sure why. 18 hours on that subject alone -_-
When looking through the Unpacked ROM, It's like line 42-45 and you can see the malicious lockout, that when deleted bricks the phone. I played with the rom and couldn't figure out why every damn program uses the same sequence and references the same directory before it even begins to process. its a classic lock-out. Loader software barely bypasses it but you need to find the drain in the phone. There is an application somewhere that constantly reference checks the line 42 and if its not present, the phone shuts down and bootloader locks up.
Do yourself a favor and upgrade. Its an outstanding phone, but its not worth the headache.
This thread will be deleted in about a month so PM me and make sure you can receive a response.
OP 306SH-Decomissioned permanently unless i get another one. sorry guys. And i go back to school monday for summer classes so i wont be working on anything except work projects for the next 8 weeks. But I will be back with some excellent news for the S6 Edge by sunday night. I have root and I'm on day 5 of my custom ROM and this thing is Fast! like whoa thats a powerPC fast. I recommend the Edge to anyone struggling with the 306. Samsung really stepped it up.
Your friendly neighborhood Haxor,
Jack Famous
Take care.
ohhh i almost forgot, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684210
This is the method that DOES NOT WORK. the second one gives some access but permissions are all screwed up like i said earlier. Somebody needs to tear it completely down.

I took a look at psneuter and the root concept mentioned in that thread for method 2. Didn't see anything that would determine permissions to be out of wack. Could you explain what you are referring to @jack_famous?

This thread is totally crap.

tewilove said:
This thread is totally crap.
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This device is totally crap lol.

jack_famous said:
ok guys im sorry i have been AWOL this week we started a new project and i just dove into it so we havn't had time to re-work the code. My wife says there is a clause in the paperwork Sharp sent me stating i cannot release any portion of their software whether modified or not. so basically all i can release is the collaborative work i've done with Rob which isnt much because its mostly factory firmware modifications and common knowledge. needless to say, There is a reason we salvaged the OP.
I know alot of you have sent PM asking for clues and access to my software. I have tried to reply to all of you but you need to change your security settings here on XDA because even though you can send me a message, i cannot reply.
I will be sending out the first batch of ADB run-around to PM's that actually go through. The only loophole we can find is private collab which is legal in the US so once i get the first round out, i will email from my personal account the rest of the changes we had made.
*Note* Google is offering $40k USD for the exploits in the new software so you can understand my hesitance to release any loaders that can potentially tap into most phones' firmware systems. That's like handing over 40k for free. Ill tune up and debug the programs rob and i built and send them out but they do not work for the 306. And since i dont have the 306 anymore, i cannot test any more modifications.
Fastboot isn't the way into the 306. you need to get your hands on the initial (Extremely buggy) release, modify the prop and boot directory, and then let the phone update to the new software with the new settings. It will blackout and sit on the Aquos emblem for like 30 minutes, but once recovered the root stays. thats the only way we got it to even try to respond but still no SU access and /detect-root shows no success however there is now root folder access. Then using ADB push the old OS back onto it and it will keep modified folder access for root but will not boot completely at this point. that's as far as we got and couldn't move past it. I asked a coworker last week about it and he gave me some new ideas, however i dont have the phone anymore and i don't plan on purchasing another one since i have moved onto the S6 Edge and another project from work.
Im sorry guys but i'm out of time on the 306. I tried for more than 2 months and its a no-go. I have heard of people gaining root and removing GSM lock, but they have way too much time invested and completely re-wrote the directories by hand.
If you are still dead set on the 306SH, Download the newest firmware, http://www.sharpusa.com/Support/ProductDetail.aspx?modelid=9FCA5482-7A08-1BF8-7AA9-F29AF5CB9A19 and unpack it. connect to ADB and \fastboot-dirw acc1. then # mount -o remount,rw -t rfs /dev/block/st19/system, # exit.
Here is the problem. Permissions are set by something else in the ROM and when you attempt to push anything other than a verified update, it crashes. Not sure why. 18 hours on that subject alone -_-
When looking through the Unpacked ROM, It's like line 42-45 and you can see the malicious lockout, that when deleted bricks the phone. I played with the rom and couldn't figure out why every damn program uses the same sequence and references the same directory before it even begins to process. its a classic lock-out. Loader software barely bypasses it but you need to find the drain in the phone. There is an application somewhere that constantly reference checks the line 42 and if its not present, the phone shuts down and bootloader locks up.
Do yourself a favor and upgrade. Its an outstanding phone, but its not worth the headache.
This thread will be deleted in about a month so PM me and make sure you can receive a response.
OP 306SH-Decomissioned permanently unless i get another one. sorry guys. And i go back to school monday for summer classes so i wont be working on anything except work projects for the next 8 weeks. But I will be back with some excellent news for the S6 Edge by sunday night. I have root and I'm on day 5 of my custom ROM and this thing is Fast! like whoa thats a powerPC fast. I recommend the Edge to anyone struggling with the 306. Samsung really stepped it up.
Your friendly neighborhood Haxor,
Jack Famous
Take care.
ohhh i almost forgot, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2684210
This is the method that DOES NOT WORK. the second one gives some access but permissions are all screwed up like i said earlier. Somebody needs to tear it completely down.
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http://www.sharpusa.com/Support/ProductDetail.aspx?modelid=9FCA5482-7A08-1BF8-7AA9-F29AF5CB9A19
Unable to download a copy of the document you can give me? Thank you!

tewilove said:
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i lost faith in rooting my device after reading this thread and i cannot temp root either mine is later version .....now what??

samsung good lock UI on note 4 " i love it"

Good Lock UI
a few days ago i ran across an app called " samsung good lock ui" it was originally only available for note 5 , s6, s7, and the edge variants. but the article i was reading was from a user who side loaded it on his note 4 and was successfully using it on his Note 4. Since then it has been made available for the Note 4 on Samsungs Galaxy App Store, although I believe its still not officially supported for our devices,
Now I have been using it for at least a week so far. and it is a little buggy still, but they are updating very frequently to address the bugs. there are a few things that can cause it to lock a user out of the phone of which I will explain haw to deal with these issuess the best I can.
I've helped a few users with their issues already and really went through the app and its settings. I installed and uninstalled many times and did everything I could to recreate users problems so I could try to figure out ways to deal with those problems. along the way Imalmost positive that Ive found the few problems still there and the way around them.
I WILL STRESS THAT THIS APP HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REALLY CAUSE SOME PROBLEMS. In my opinion they should state that it is still in BETA form.... BUT , you install at your own Risk!!!
THE MUST AND MUST NOTS.
1. fingerprint and password lockscreen security options cause an inability to unlock the phone once restarted...
( to assure you dont have problems , REMEMBER!!! Before installing MAKE SURE that you are not using the fingerprint or Password lockscreen security options, Pin and Pattern seem to be ok, but I would just switch to swipe lockscreen before installing or uninstalling...)
2. When uninstalling the app you MUST ABSOLUTELY UNINSTALL FROM INSIDE THE APP... Good lock settings > Uninstall.....The App has caused serious problems for others if not uninstalled properly....(I have installed and uninstalled lots of times with no issues, which leads me to believe the issues are user created.)
3. If You want all the settings, color scheme, and changes to stick after a restart, Then make your desired changes to the default routine, instead of creating a New Routine..... I believe this Bug is a conmon one that will likely be fixed in the next couple updates.
(if you dont use default, then when you restart the color scheme reverts to default )
LOCKSCREEN LOCKED OUT FIX..........
Fix for if you forget to change to Swipe lockscreen before you install the app and get locked out our your phone...
if you try to use fingerprint.or password or forget to change it to swipe before installation. It will not have a way to unlock it normally, (there wont be a keyboard or the fingerprint text prompts: Just your wallpaper and access to the notifications).... if this happens you should still be able to pull down notifications on the lockscreen that does appear.
Pull down notifications, then pull down a second time to bring down quick settings. At the top Right you will see some icons, from left to right you should see Battery and Pecentage, the Search, then App Settings, then the regular settings icon. The App settings icon next to the regular settings icon is what you need to tap if you cant unlock the device. If you are locked out and you push this icon it will recognize the GoodLock UI is causing an error and will disable good lock UII and ask you to restart the device. When it reboots, you should be back to TouchWiz and able to unlock like normal,...
There is lots more to discuss and im sure lots of help needed so im glad to help if i can......

Please see the Overdrive thread. I'm still 15 hours in pain trying to remove this malware. Caveat emptor. I don't know how responsible it is to invite this disaster. If you are locked hard out like me, there is no way to get to the notify pull down and you are Tango Uniform. I cannot install any ROM now without horrific problems.
Please read.
1) If you are anyone who uses the well respected/tested Smart Unlock, even when deactivated and uninstalled then AVOID
2) Installation changes/corrupts SystemUI (check before and after) even when you are able to not be completely locked out and you are able to think you have uninstalled properly.
3) Installation/deinstallation changes firmware beyond anything a full and complete wipe can address. Full wipe three times, including system and data - it is still there.
4) if you don't mind losing all the user interface enhancements from custom ROMs to go back to a stock Samsung TouchWiz look, go for it. Don't understand why one would do that. Effectively Good Lock is TouchWiz plus with a lock-in change to SystemUIand other parts of firmware. Thank you Samsung.
Bottom line: many have suffered. Not just the ratings of a long time xda'er like me. Please search around. I'm glad hey likes it. It has wasted a dozen hours trying to dislodge it. Starting from scratch, scratch. Back to ODIN seems the only way to stamp out Bad Lock.

Rudolpht said:
Please see the Overdrive thread. I'm still 15 hours in pain trying to remove this malware. Caveat emptor. I don't know how responsible it is to invite this disaster. If you are locked hard out like me, there is no way to get to the notify pull down and you are Tango Uniform. I cannot install any ROM now without horrific problems.
Please read.
1) If you are anyone who uses the well respected/tested Smart Unlock, even when deactivated and uninstalled then AVOID
2) Installation changes/corrupts SystemUI (check before and after) even when you are able to not be completely locked out and you are able to think you have uninstalled properly.
3) Installation/deinstallation changes firmware beyond anything a full and complete wipe can address. Full wipe three times, including system and data - it is still there.
4) if you don't mind losing all the user interface enhancements from custom ROMs to go back to a stock Samsung TouchWiz look, go for it. Don't understand why one would do that. Effectively Good Lock is TouchWiz plus with a lock-in change to SystemUIand other parts of firmware. Thank you Samsung.
Bottom line: many have suffered. Not just the ratings of a long time xda'er like me. Please search around. I'm glad hey likes it. It has wasted a dozen hours trying to dislodge it. Starting from scratch, scratch. Back to ODIN seems the only way to stamp out Bad Lock.
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I am the one who started it in the ovrdrive thread as well, that's why i stated all the warnings...
with that said I've looked around. the only place I've seen any problems like what you describe
is in that thread..Nowhere else can i find much of anyone having problems.
i absolutely think that whatever problems you and very few others are having are user error. as long as you don't use fingerprint or password it works infallibly. i mean no disrespect and i apologize if what i say is disagreeable to you, but i have used this app and 4 other friend's that have the note 4 have used the app for at least a week or so with absolutely no problems.....i will reiterate....ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEMS.... uninstalling reinstalling, flashing and reflashing over and over again...in fact i can even do what i warn others of and use fingerprint or password. i can let it get locked up and undo it every time... no matter what i do i cant recreate the problems you say you have .and i have tried on 5 different note 4s. i am not saying you are not having the problems, i just think either there is something different or wrong with a few devices or the problems are induced by the user somehow, or there's a mod or an app on those few devices conflicting with good lock....
AGAIN I DO WARN ANYONE USING THIS ....THEY DO SO AT THEIR OWN RISK...
but I'm positive that most users will have a pleasant experience and i think a few people having problems with the app is far from proving problems with the app.
SAMSUNG GOOD LOCK is a complex app that modifies the system ui and as such i think its not as user friendly as a normal plug and play app.
that being said i am not promoting the app ...i just like it and think others will too...
if anyone does want to try it. and wants to b sure of no problems let me know , I can help you set it up properly
and anyone trying to uninstall it or having problems with it let me know and I'm sure i can salvage your setup with out 15 hrs of struggle( that's just beyond me) , but I'm sure i can get you into a device that's been locked up by good lock

and please if you know of someplace where i can find the issues you speak of or others experiencing problems of any kind outside of the overdrive thread here, point me in that direction ., PLEASE. i have searched everywhere looking for users with bad experiences and cannot find any. I've exhausted all the keywords i can think of to search for issues with the app.
THIS APPLICATION IS ATTACHED N BETA AS STATED ON GALAXY APP STORE

neofreek01 said:
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i absolutely think that whatever problems you and very few others are having are user error. as long as you don't use fingerprint or password it works infallibly.
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INFALLIBILITY? I used a pin and removed it before installing good lock, and it rebooted and denied access. So much for your infallibility. It is a FALSE claim.
I really don't understand why you denegrate users. YMMV would be a good contention. Saying there are no issues uninstalled correctly but saying its a BETA so all bets are off is talking out of both sides. Giving a surgeon general like warning then saying it really has no problems is the other two sides.
For everyone who loves locked down TouchWiz next gen, great. It's a big world with different preferences. I celebrate that. I'm sure many people that want to avoid custom ROM user interface benefits may be jazzed by a new Samsung software product. Fine. Like you, many may love it. Hooray. Some may have no uninstall issues. Cool man, more power to you. Saying there are negligible users with negligible issues (see google) is only rude.
WHEN INFALLIBILITY FAILS, CALL IT BETA.
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@Rudolpht since you've completely ignored post #4 I'll be blunt and conclude that problem isn't with software, ones and zeros but with you. You've been offered a helpful hand by a user and just spat back I his face. Both threads. KEEP CALM AND KEEP GOING. You remind me of a lady (bystander) that couldn't stfup when I crashed. I told her I'm fine but for the next 30min she couldn't stop, as if she was hurt.

xda_johndoe said:
@Rudolpht since you've completely ignored post #4 I'll be blunt and conclude that problem isn't with software, ones and zeros but with you. You've been offered a helpful hand by a user and just spat back I his face. Both threads. KEEP CALM AND KEEP GOING. You remind me of a lady (bystander) that couldn't stfup when I crashed. I told her I'm fine but for the next 30min she couldn't stop, as if she was hurt.
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Thank you. Same logic. The software is great, the user is the problem. Yay new Samsung.
There has been NO help. No fix. No way out of a hard loop other than start from scratch. Just pretend there isn't a systemui change. Pretend firmware hasn't changed. Pretend there isn't a persistent change to the device that even a wipe won't fix. If you cant pretend it's beta.
But you are very helpful. Thank you.
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No way out of a hard loop other than start from scratch.
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But it's a start. Come on man, you don't seem like a first time user. Starting from scratch is what you sometimes have to do. Yeah it sucks but it still gets you going.
You should know the risks, they are posted all over xda.
Just talk to neo and let him help you. He offered help if you read it. Have a drink/smoke/girl/jerk/etc relax and go at it again till you resolve your issue, with neo guide you as fellow man/user.

im not normally a big fan of touchwiz at all, but as of late the features chat its always had up on other overlays have actially been usable with a custom TW rom that is as smooth as it should have been from the OEM.
the aesthetics is what its always lacked in my opinion, this good lock, will "Eventually" be a good looking option to change it to or at least in my opinion. i stated it had problems right from the beginning....
Everyone should read on their own and decide wether or not an app has developed to a point of their satisfaction so they are willing to risk installing it.
i just saw it and thought some others might be interested and stated my experience with the app that's all i can do. i don't want anyone making the mistake in thinking I'm promoting or even trying to spread the word at all about this app. i just dig it and wanted to share that .
beyond that i noticed some problems and have been able to fix most of em or get around them anyway. maybe i cam help someone else with these problems, because i know even without me the app would have been installed by note 4 users and my experiences might help some one. if not , i tried..
its still running perfectly on my device. for a beta that's not supported on our phones anyway.
its worlds better than stock that's all that matters to me. i cant stand the TW blue and yelwew notifications colors, and i really don't like that its so hard to change colors or backgrounds, icons, text, and every thing else, without hacking in the theme store or really going into theming yourself. something like this implemented right could be a good solution. and i guess a built in app to modify the theme and system ui would be a good next step from the theme store

In description it says beta.
Quickly tried it to see what all the fuss is about and if it would turn my world upside down. It didn't. Uninstalled from within.
I like them shortcuts on the bottom. I think jelly bean JB was the one that had . I liked it, used it and missed it. Instead of 4-5(forget) we now have downgrade of two, phone and camera:angel:
The rest isn't my cup of tea. It's not bad by any means. I've seen and used similar quick settings / notification pull-down in either aosp or cm like two years ago, or so.
With time I've seen dislikes/comments of TW and I've tried cm, aosp, and also top launchers, go/nova/apex/etc. I liked sense in HTC and do like TW in Samsung. Personal preference.
I think it's a great option and some would enjoy it. Hope it develops and becomes stable. Not that I've encountered any problems in 5 minutes of testing install/uninstall.

xda_johndoe said:
But it's a start. Come on man, you don't seem like a first time user. Starting from scratch is what you sometimes have to do. Yeah it sucks but it still gets you going.
You should know the risks, they are posted all over xda.
Just talk to neo and let him help you. He offered help if you read it. Have a drink/smoke/girl/jerk/etc relax and go at it again till you resolve your issue, with neo guide you as fellow man/user.
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Grumble. Good point. Ok. Just don't like the jerk reference (even if I can be one [emoji15] ), and don't like being called a dope for not being able to clean uninstall when clearly Samsung messes up the device.
Hatchet buried. To each his own. I take/took responsibility for installing and shooting myself in the foot.
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Rudolpht said:
Grumble. Good point. Ok. Just don't like the jerk reference (even if I can be one [emoji15] ), and don't like being called a dope for not being able to clean uninstall when clearly Samsung messes up the device.
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I didn't call you a jerk
Read the whole combination of/ / those words, stress relievers.
Not to be explicit, I meant do what ever that calms you down and relieves your stress, so you can resume/continue at fixing your device with a clear head.

xda_johndoe said:
I didn't call you a jerk
Read the whole combination of/ / those words, stress relievers.
Not to be explicit, I meant do what ever that calms you down and relieves your stress, so you can resume/continue at fixing your device with a clear head.
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Knew that, just emoticon unschooled and how to address in polite company. (My jerk point was self depreciation on the noun vs verb.

Rudolpht said:
Knew that, just emoticon unschooled and how to address in polite company. (My jerk point was self depreciation on the noun vs verb.
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I have to watch myself to "abide by rules" of different forums. But even in life, profanity, calling someone female dog or genitalia, and alike is last resort for me. If at all.
Since I can get under someone's skin without it. But generally we all are humans. And I lean towards to respect, foolish the person is or not.
since I'm not perfect myself as all
Watch any available stand-up of Bill Burr on YouTube. Brutal to some, reality for others.
Anyway. Hope you got your device going.
Btw trying to offend or degrade someone, first of all, shows to others what's in your head/mind. Thus actually makes you vulnerable.

All cool.

I have installed good lock once on my Note 4, SM-910G India.
After i installed the fone gets restart and when inprove unlock password(since its showing fingerprint stopped working) it freezes for 1 minute and restarted back to normal and uninstalled automatically.
I think it was due to compatibility issues with note 4. But the look was awesome like stock with good colours.
Any chances Samsung might release officially for Note 4? ?
Sent from my SM-N910G using XDA-Developers mobile app

I've rolled back to older version.
Sent from my SM-N910U using Tapatalk

I will never try it, even if I was given Note 4s to trash, but it appears like there is a new fav 24.0.9 out for S5 plus ROMs.
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I liked the concept, but no sync quick tile

Is the UI more stable now?? I'll be getting my note 4 today and I want to know if all the bugs been fixed and it won't be buggy or anything like that ??