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Finally our own forum... Who's Getting one?

No brainer for me really, unless something truly revolutionary comes out of MWC (and you never know, HTC hasn't announced anything Tegra based yet and I am sure they will) then this is the phone that will finally make me ditch my Hero.
Anyone else as impressed as I was (and more importantly still impressed now the dust has settled?)
EDIT: Obviously I will be plumping for the 3G GSM version as our useless networks can't even do 3G coverage properly, let alone 4G

If it is released on vodafone UK then yeah if not no all the other networks suck. I'll just stick with my galaxy s.

I really like the look of it, butI am dubiuos to how good the webtop will be. What would be interesting if, we managed to pehaps mod it to be more of a full version of linux, pehaps ubuntu with a terminal

Think im still going to wait and see what samsung has up its sleeve with the next galaxy s, but i doubt its going to be released as quickly as the atrix so i might just jump ship to moto. Im sick of the stuttering/lag on my captivate.

peachpuff said:
Think im still going to wait and see what samsung has up its sleeve with the next galaxy s, but i doubt its going to be released as quickly as the atrix so i might just jump ship to moto. Im sick of the stuttering/lag on my captivate.
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It looks like my next upgrade, too. I was looking at buying a Revo to stream media to my upstairs TV, but this will do the trick perfectly!
Now I just need it to be a cheap upgrade with vodafone after April and I'm sorted

sebbo90 said:
I really like the look of it, butI am dubiuos to how good the webtop will be. What would be interesting if, we managed to pehaps mod it to be more of a full version of linux, pehaps ubuntu with a terminal
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yea, I'm definitely hoping the brilliant minds of the people here at xda will get ubuntu running rather than that custom webtop software.

Definitely getting one! Heres to hoping that the bootloader is unlocked. Oh please let it by unlocked!!

going to try to get from At&t without a contract on launch day.
don't want to give up my unlimited data plan
please motorola do something similar to HTC for the bootloader
fastboot oem unlock
please please please

I've got 2 upgrades saved up 2 of them on launch day for me! 1 to sell, 1 to play with

DS1495 said:
yea, I'm definitely hoping the brilliant minds of the people here at xda will get ubuntu running rather than that custom webtop software.
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OMG if this could happen I would be so stoked! I can't wait to get mine + laptop dock!

If the price is reasonable!

jchap2k said:
OMG if this could happen I would be so stoked! I can't wait to get mine + laptop dock!
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Yup, I'll definitely also be rockin' it with the laptop dock!

Unlocked bootloader = instapurchase

I'm gunna be getting one when upgrade come around and I hope they could mod webtop to ubuntu or put the ubuntu webtop feature(if achieved) in a ROM like CM7

You can put a check by my name, im getting one xD.
One question i have one of the old 5gb data plans, if i use an upgrade to get this phone will they force me to change my data plan?

I'd love to get one, but I'm on Sprint. To be honest, I think this is the best Android phone out there right now

If the price is reasonable and HTC doesn't come up with something similarly amazing in the mean time i'm certain to get one.

There's several things that give me pause about buying this phone.
1) AT&T. The probability of getting Android system updates seems low.
2) Motoblur. Hate it.
3) Locked bootloader.

1010011010 said:
There's several things that give me pause about buying this phone.
1) AT&T. The probably of getting Android system updates seems low.
2) Motoblur. Hate it.
3) Locked bootloader.
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I will go in reverse order....
3. You are aware ALL bootloaders are locked right? minus n1 & other dev phones. This phone will be rooted...
2. Look to #3.
1. Look to #3

I am going to wait until the Summer to pick one of these bad boys up. That should give the dev community time to get the ball rolling with this device.

UK 3G, upgrade to 3.1

since we have CWM recovery, i wonder if we can just flash the official update from 3.0.1 to 3.1?
i am afraid to test as we do not have any original sbf to restore to if something goes wrong.
i open up the update and don't see any radio related files, i guess it might be safe.
any ideas you guys?
i have rooted my xoom, is there anyway i can dump the whole thing as a backup, try the update, and if something goes wrong, restore it?

the-update-is-for-US-xoom-it-will-not-work-here-we-are-not-cdma.
I get fed up of repeating this sentence like a drone, I think I'm going to make a quick text.

bloody motorola... what so different in that?
can't they just do something similar to what the Nexus S is, where they are all compatible?
i don't see any hardware difference apart from the radio.
( i am referring to wifi xoom).

qwerp_ said:
bloody motorola... what so different in that?
can't they just do something similar to what the Nexus S is, where they are all compatible?
i don't see any hardware difference apart from the radio.
( i am referring to wifi xoom).
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Motorola is American, America comes first, so we have to wait. Unfortunately they seem to be one of those c ompany that doesn't deal with their international customers very well and so we have no information.
I think the real difference is that the American XOOM is a G.E.D (Google Experience Device) so they get direct google updates, where ours is not, so we have to wait on Motorola.

alias_neo said:
I think the real difference is that the American XOOM is a G.E.D (Google Experience Device) so they get direct google updates, where ours is not, so we have to wait on Motorola.
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I understand that the hardware on the UK/EU wifi version is the same as the US version, while the software is different. Is it possible to load the US software onto the UK hardware and make my device a G.E.D.? If we're going to get dicked around like we did with the Droid/Milestone, then I might just return it and buy an iPad 2 (for all their problems they do seem to get that they are selling a product to a global audience).

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I understand that the hardware on the UK/EU wifi version is the same as the US version, while the software is different. Is it possible to load the US software onto the UK hardware and make my device a G.E.D.? If we're going to get dicked around like we did with the Droid/Milestone, then I might just return it and buy an iPad 2 (for all their problems they do seem to get that they are selling a product to a global audience).
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Hardware is the same, I'd do exactly that with the Wifi Only and just install the US images, then you get the updates like they do. We can't do that with the 3G one though because their 3G is CDMA and ours isn't so there are some differences that make it impossible for us to just use their images.

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Hardware is the same, I'd do exactly that with the Wifi Only and just install the US images, then you get the updates like they do.
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And to do this do I need to unlock the boot loader?
As far as I understand all I have to do is firstly factory wipe from the settings menu, then enable the debug USB option, plug it in to my PC and follow the commands listed here? Or is there more to it than that? I've been a happy Nexus One stock user so I've never really bothered to learn any of this stuff prior to this.

Recieved a 2.2 Transformer - how to update

Heya there! Seems like I'm one of the unlucky ones who got a 2.2 Transformer. Is there a safe way to install one of the 3.1 roms on those? I don't just want to go ahead and update the thing with like, Primordial, because it might break it if the partitioning is different.

I would keep it as is or sell it on eBay. That is a RARE tablet!

It might be rare, but it's pretty unuseable as a tablet. That's not really helping me. And I don't think It'd sell any better than normal ones on ebay, it's after all well known what's inside the system by this point.

Apologies. My answer was not helpful to you.
I do not think that you will have an issue just taking the leaked HC 3.1 and just installing it over your 2.2 install. Be sure to do a Nandroid backup first.......and if you are able to....post it here for the devs to play with.
Can anyone else confirm that this will not harm his tablet?

Meister_Li said:
Heya there! Seems like I'm one of the unlucky ones who got a 2.2 Transformer. Is there a safe way to install one of the 3.1 roms on those? I don't just want to go ahead and update the thing with like, Primordial, because it might break it if the partitioning is different.
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yes, it is possible. not sure if it is public yet.

Wait, some of these TFs come with Froyo? Lol, seriously? I hope I misunderstood that.

Some (I think 5 are known by now) did indeed. It's an early version of Froyo that has a lot of apps for testing the different hardware of the transformer preinstalled, but is otherwise... Well, Froyo, not Honeycomb ^^
Also having problems installing it here... I figure I need to somehow replace the recovery, so I can use cwm, but I can't figure out how to do it. This Transformer also comes with a Fastboot option, so maybe there's more to it.

I can assure you that you would probably pull more money for it on ebay than you would for a regular transformer. Not to mention, several people who purchased tablets that had 2.2 on it were contacted by ASUS and we given the option to replace it and I think they got some kind of bonus for turning it in. I can certainly imagine they don't want their in house programs leaking out to other companies or the public.

Return it to the retailer or call Asus.
You're not the first that posted about getting 2.2.
It's useless, don't bother selling it on eBay, they charge 9% for things over $400+ and PayPal charges 3%, It's really not worth selling it.

Where will 4G LTE ICS come from?

I believe the current one is coming from google/motorola, but that's the wifi only model.
I have the 4G model, and afaik verizon would be releasing it, because it has their reputation/name on it
I also know this is a 'GED' device, so google supports it
so who would it be that would deliver ICS?
because if it's verizon, I don't think the 4G guys are getting it this month, but if it's google/motorola, I assume it can be within a week or so...

Chances are, it has to pass through Verizon for rigorous testing before being delivered OTA to thousands of users.

razorseal said:
I believe the current one is coming from google/motorola, but that's the wifi only model.
I have the 4G model, and afaik verizon would be releasing it, because it has their reputation/name on it
I also know this is a 'GED' device, so google supports it
so who would it be that would deliver ICS?
because if it's verizon, I don't think the 4G guys are getting it this month, but if it's google/motorola, I assume it can be within a week or so...
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It will come from Google. Verizon will sign off on it, but it will come from Google. There seems to be a misconception around here that only the WiFi Xoom is a Google Experience Device (GED). Not true - the 3G/4G Xoom is as well. All updates have come from Google.

dwboston said:
It will come from Google. Verizon will sign off on it, but it will come from Google. There seems to be a misconception around here that only the WiFi Xoom is a Google Experience Device (GED). Not true - the 3G/4G Xoom is as well. All updates have come from Google.
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That's what I originally thought, as well, but, I was told only the wifi version is a GED earlier today. It was my understanding that all US versions of the Xoom were GED. If so, then maybe there's hope we'll see it sooner rather than later. After all, they have to do a soak test, right?

SamuriHL said:
That's what I originally thought, as well, but, I was told only the wifi version is a GED earlier today. It was my understanding that all US versions of the Xoom were GED. If so, then maybe there's hope we'll see it sooner rather than later. After all, they have to do a soak test, right?
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All US versions of the Xoom are GEDs. If they weren't, Moto would have been able to use a custom kernel to enable full SD card access, like they did with Xooms in other countries. I'm not sure where the misinformation came from that only the WiFi Xoom is a GED. That's not the case.

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All US versions of the Xoom are GEDs. If they weren't, Moto would have been able to use a custom kernel to enable full SD card access, like they did with Xooms in other countries. I'm not sure where the misinformation came from that only the WiFi Xoom is a GED. That's not the case.
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That is what I originally thought until I was told different. Thank you for confirming that!

So it won't be long before us 4g guys get it too. Unless Verizon had to test it out before signing off on it...
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Let's hope so. Although I'm now running team EOS nightlies and have to say I may just stick with this. It's quite amazing. I'll install the official release once it's out there but I'm likely going to keep this.
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razorseal said:
So it won't be long before us 4g guys get it too. Unless Verizon had to test it out before signing off on it...
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Verizon does have to OK it
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flyerwire said:
Verizon does have to OK it
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Yea....we're screwed then. Maybe June or September. LOL!

SamuriHL said:
Yea....we're screwed then. Maybe June or September. LOL!
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No we're not. How quickly people forget that the VZW Xoom was first to receive the 3.1 update. VZW generally turns these GED updates around reasonably quickly.

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No we're not. How quickly people forget that the VZW Xoom was first to receive the 3.1 update. VZW generally turns these GED updates around reasonably quickly.
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I know. I'm just being highly sarcastic. Let's hope we see it in the next week or so. Of course, it'll likely get released while I'm traveling for work next week. Guess I'll throw the dev tools on my work laptop...."just in case". I really do hope we see the official update soon. Would like to compare it to the AOSP roms.

Apparently its not as easy as we thought ;-)
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Clearly. Somehow I get the feeling we won't be seeing it for a while.

SamuriHL said:
Yea....we're screwed then. Maybe June or September. LOL!
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Screwed? Just use Team EOS rom. It's better than stock.

nubsors said:
Screwed? Just use Team EOS rom. It's better than stock.
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I do. And have been for a while now. I meant screwed on the official update and I was being sarcastic when I wrote that. Although....it's still not out yet. LOL! Anyway, yea, I love Team EOS. That rom ROCKS!

nubsors said:
Screwed? Just use Team EOS rom. It's better than stock.
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Really been holding out on that... There is no benefit in rooting my xoom right now besides eos ics.
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For the longest time I kept my Xoom stock. For a small while I put the tiamat rom on. But I eventually went back to Stock. With ICS, the advantage over stock HC is pretty immense and I wanted to make sure that what ever ROM I installed with ICS was fully functional. This is the primary reason I went with EOS. Their ROM is virtually fully functional. It also has additional functions like others have mentioned (OC, use of SD card, etc.) Anyway, this is one of those times where I really feel that the ROM developers have come through in a big way. The biggest bug I have found in one of the nightlies was the dictionary issue but that has since been resolved.
The way I look at it is this, with my 4G Xoom I either need to have the best ROM available or be fully stock, none of this in-between stuff.

just in case no one said it who cares !

nubsors said:
For the longest time I kept my Xoom stock. For a small while I put the tiamat rom on. But I eventually went back to Stock. With ICS, the advantage over stock HC is pretty immense and I wanted to make sure that what ever ROM I installed with ICS was fully functional. This is the primary reason I went with EOS. Their ROM is virtually fully functional. It also has additional functions like others have mentioned (OC, use of SD card, etc.) Anyway, this is one of those times where I really feel that the ROM developers have come through in a big way. The biggest bug I have found in one of the nightlies was the dictionary issue but that has since been resolved.
The way I look at it is this, with my 4G Xoom I either need to have the best ROM available or be fully stock, none of this in-between stuff.
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I guess I'll give it a go...
gonna take most of my night I think. I have no idea how adb operates. I remember using it once but that was a while ago on my atrix to unlock it

Will this root method work?

http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-gt-i9505-featuring-qualcomm-snapdragon-600-processor-gets-rooted-successfully
If not let me know what you need devs and ill be happy to assist when i get my s4 tomorrow.

fix-this! said:
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-gt-i9505-featuring-qualcomm-snapdragon-600-processor-gets-rooted-successfully
If not let me know what you need devs and ill be happy to assist when i get my s4 tomorrow.
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Agreed...I have my S4 in hand now and am happy to help...need root and need a wifi tethering option that works. PM me and let me know if you need log files or what...

Agreed, we all need to pitch in. Weird as im not seeing any devs yet?

fix-this! said:
http://www.ibtimes.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-gt-i9505-featuring-qualcomm-snapdragon-600-processor-gets-rooted-successfully
If not let me know what you need devs and ill be happy to assist when i get my s4 tomorrow.
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I was going to try this, but I got worried that I would brick my new phone when I saw the firmware is different. Chainfire's method uses XXUAMD2 firmware. My Build Number is JDQ39.I337UCUAMDB. It is close, but not the same.

rsmolen said:
I was going to try this, but I got worried that I would brick my new phone when I saw the firmware is different. Chainfire's method uses XXUAMD2 firmware. My Build Number is JDQ39.I337UCUAMDB. It is close, but not the same.
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Yeah i saw that to. Someone on android central insisted it would work. Thats why i posted it here.

fix-this! said:
Yeah i saw that to. Someone on android central insisted it would work. Thats why i posted it here.
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they want someone stupid to try it out instead of them and report their success or failure first lol

im sure most people dont even have this phone yet because its not out. Mine does not arrive till tommorow

I thoiught I saw a post in the Development thread that this method does not work - I may be wrong, but I am pretty sure that is the case, unfortunately. I have faith that Chainfire of someone will get us rooted soon enough - (hell, I don't even have my S4 yet - won't arrive until tomorrow
But - Unless I had seen someone else had successfully rooted using any method, I do not think I would even think about being the first one to try it. lol

How long before the AT&T source code is released? We should be able to get a work around once we have that.

This will be my first Android phone that didn't have root before it was released, and I've bought nearly all of them on release date, taken it home, and rooted it before doing anything! I won't be selling my SIII right away since it looks like I'll be using it until we get a successful root out of this sucker....
Getting mine on Saturday if all goes to plans, willing to help test as well! I have 60 days to return it if it breaks, hahah

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This will be my first Android phone that didn't have root before it was released, and I've bought nearly all of them on release date, taken it home, and rooted it before doing anything! I won't be selling my SIII right away since it looks like I'll be using it until we get a successful root out of this sucker....
Getting mine on Saturday if all goes to plans, willing to help test as well! I have 60 days to return it if it breaks, hahah
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Yea i can't officially switch till root. S4 just arrived. Will see if I can get some root on here.

Just got mine an hour ago. Apparently, thanks to AT&T, the bootloader is locked, which could complicate the root method considerably