Hey guys..
Here is a Demo video of MHL TV-Out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFG4S7g0_Ls (Credits to GSMArena)
Some additional info here too: http://blog.gsmarena.com/watch-sams...o-hdtv-through-its-mhl-port-video/#more-13930
Turns out its a sucess in my opinion. The only thing is that the cable is not included.
I want to know if u guys are getting one and on which website/prices.
Definitely getting one but most sites like Expansys, Clove etc say early June for getting stock.
Is the output signal upscaled?
Wish they would have tested a 1080P source...
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Wish they would have tested a 1080P source...
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I thought the Lady Gaga video at the beginning was 1080p...
It was, or at least its file name indicated that (they should have brought up the media details while it was playing to show that).
I was quite tickled to have beaten them to demo'ing USB OTG!
(I wonder if they are the one person to dislike my video so far?!)
Shame it only works when the power is connected
Kinda removes alot of the wow factor when you have to plug in all the cables to make it work.
We need a power cable ?
So stupid, is it confirmed ? No way to use MHL without power ?
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I thought the Lady Gaga video at the beginning was 1080p...
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I have not noticed, immediately sprinted for the bathroom to throw up.
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We need a power cable ?
So stupid, is it confirmed ? No way to use MHL without power ?
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I htink you can if the TV supports that, otherwise you need to power the sucker up.
I think video output is limited to 800x480 regardless of video source because it's display mirroring, it does not switch off the lcd when playing video. That's my opinion.
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We need a power cable ?
So stupid, is it confirmed ? No way to use MHL without power ?
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You only need the power cable if you want to charge the phone while it's connected. The HDMI output will work regardless.
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I think video output is limited to 800x480 regardless of video source because it's display mirroring, it does not switch off the lcd when playing video. That's my opinion.
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Are you sure about this?
Would be very bad..
If it was so, we can't experience full HD movies?! or it just rearranges screen after playback the movie?
Would like to know that..
According to the article, the display won't work without being plugged in:
It took us a few minute to get the thing going – it turns out, the adapter won’t work unless you connect a charger too. After that, the content on the screen is automatically mirrored on the HDTV.
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I'm completely confused!
Are we saying that if you want to connect the phone to a tv in order to play a video, you MUST have either (a) an MHL-capable tv or (b) the charger also plugged in?
If so, that's completely ridiculous. Who the hell wants to carry their charger all the time?
If only someone could confirm this. Except none of us have the damn cable!
I'm seriously reconsidering this phone. What with the complaints about the audio, the complaints about the GPS, and now this.
mdalacu said:
I think video output is limited to 800x480 regardless of video source because it's display mirroring, it does not switch off the lcd when playing video. That's my opinion.
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In the MHL consortium video from MWC it shows the display on the phone turning off on video playback (with onscreen media controls showing). For video I am quite sure its output is 1080p (Samsung have an official walkthrough video on youtube today which specifically states this also).
Yeah, I think It's 1080p too. What tv does even support 800x480 resolution? Ofcourse its upscaled somehow. And what idea would it be to support playing full hd if you can't see that its hd?
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Personally I'd rather have the option for both, but having to require the charger being plugged in seems to be the lesser of two evils. At least this way you can have the phone continually on if you're using it for extended periods of time on a large screen.
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Has anyone tried whether you get TV Out using the 3.5mm jack? I know the quality wont be as good but just want to know.
Tv out plus Sky Go
This works perfect i use it to watch sky go on my tv my parents have sky tv so i put sky go on my phone and plug it in and away i go. No subs for me lol its just a pain when people try to ring or i get a text.
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Hello,
Has anyone tried using the HDMI feature? I just received my cable yesterday and was able to view anything in my gallery and youtube. The only thing that bothered me is that everything was output in 480p. (I had youtube set to HQ and it made no difference)
Does anyone know if the phone can output at a higher resolution?
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Hello,
Has anyone tried using the HDMI feature? I just received my cable yesterday and was able to view anything in my gallery and youtube. The only thing that bothered me is that everything was output in 480p. (I had youtube set to HQ and it made no difference)
Does anyone know if the phone can output at a higher resolution?
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it's supposed to be possible to output 1080p, thats what all the specs i have seen for the phone say
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it's supposed to be possible to output 1080p, thats what all the specs i have seen for the phone say
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Thats what I thought. I was unable to get anything higher that 480p though. My tv is 1080p 120hz.
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Thats what I thought. I was unable to get anything higher that 480p though. My tv is 1080p 120hz.
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hmmm... well i wish i could help ya man, i dont have a cable yet
but hopefully someone smarter than I that has a cable will be able to figure this out
I doubt youtube even HQ is streaming in 1080p
EDIT: In fact, it'd be my guess the max output resolution is probly 720p (considering it can capture in 720p)
his gallery should be higher rez though. i doubt thsi phone has the power to play 720p compressed.
The max resolution on the camera's video capture is 1280x720, which is 720p. So I doubt the phone will output anything higher (like 1080p/i). In fact, I saw one reviewer that stated that he "thought" the phone *only* outputs 720p, upconverting any video to that resolution. But I don't think that has been verified. What I *can* verify is that video shot with the camera at 720p and shown on an HDTV shows EXTREME compression artifacts to the point that a lower resolution will probably give better results (although you will not get the 16:9 aspect ratio).
What about regular HD movies in 1080p/i that are saved onto your sd card. How did those do on your hdtv. Did they come out choppy or compressed at all? I'm waiting to get my hdmi cable to test it out myself.
it's supposed to be possible to output 1080p, thats what all the specs i have seen for the phone say
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Actually the specs never say 1080p, they say 720p. And from what i've seen that's only when outputting pics and videos form the gallery player.
We want to get netflix on our Evos and do the output to our TV's.
I wonder how the outout will look on that?
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Actually the specs never say 1080p, they say 720p. And from what i've seen that's only when outputting pics and videos form the gallery player.
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I have seen it somewhere listed... ill attempt to find it and post back
I remember seeing a post on engadget a couple weeks back with a video demoing the ability to play youtube hq through HDMI. they were watching a video that had paint splashing around in slow motion. It looked great! Last night I tried to watch a couple of youtube videos that were hq quality with the hdmi cable plugged into my tv and they looked horrible. I thought it might be a setting on the phone, but I could not find one.
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Hello,
Has anyone tried using the HDMI feature? I just received my cable yesterday and was able to view anything in my gallery and youtube. The only thing that bothered me is that everything was output in 480p. (I had youtube set to HQ and it made no difference)
Does anyone know if the phone can output at a higher resolution?
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I have the same problem with youtube. It seems that it does not use 720p, even in "HD", it seems the "HD" is actually 480p (the EVO screen resolution). Another problem with youtube on EVO (as opposed to TP2) is that unless you click "HD" there is no way to stretch the video to full screen, even when viewed on the EVO screen. This is one of the most unfortunate things I've found when trying to impress my iPhone loving friends. On the TP2, youtube was surprisingly excellent, it filled the entire screen and looked fantastic (without an "HD" option) the EVO seems to have actually taken a step back (albeit a small step) in that department.
While using the HDMI cable to my TV, it will output 720p videos (taken with the phone camera or made with handbreak.) However, it will not scale anything up. So if you create a video at the 800x480 EVO screen resolution, it will display in the center of your TV (not fill the entire screen.) I've not yet tried 1080p, considering the 1600mbs (realistic) encoding limitation, I don't think 1080p will be a good idea even if it does work, just stick with 720p.
So 720P movies and stuff will work just fine?
Can it display the UI of the device and other apps...or only multimedia content?
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So 720P movies and stuff will work just fine?
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Yes, 720p at 1500mb/s works.
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Can it display the UI of the device and other apps...or only multimedia content?
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Only multimedia content, no UI.
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Only multimedia content, no UI.
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That sucks, was hoping (not expecting) to be able to hook up to a big screen on occasion for some apps.
Think it is possible to could be done via software?
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That sucks, was hoping (not expecting) to be able to hook up to a big screen on occasion for some apps.
Think it is possible to could be done via software?
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This x 1,000.
I'm still not sure if I'm getting an EVO or Streak, but both have HDMI, and either way, I want to be able to hook my device up to a monitor and use it in the same fashion that I would my netbook (i.e. light web browsing, very light office/doc work, maybe some light games).
Basically, I'm looking to get rid of my netbook and replace it with my new smartphone...but I have to break out to a larger display from time to time.
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This x 1,000.
I'm still not sure if I'm getting an EVO or Streak, but both have HDMI, and either way, I want to be able to hook my device up to a monitor and use it in the same fashion that I would my netbook (i.e. light web browsing, very light office/doc work, maybe some light games).
Basically, I'm looking to get rid of my netbook and replace it with my new smartphone...but I have to break out to a larger display from time to time.
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Exactly what I was getting at. I am trying to replace my laptop for the most part. This would be a big step forward in that area.
I have been searching for a new android phone that allows connection to the tv. i do not have dlna connection.
iv seen a video on youtube and heard rumours this is possible on this phone.
Has anyone tried this?? as i would like to find out before buying. :-D
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I have been searching for a new android phone that allows connection to the tv. i do not have dlna connection.
iv seen a video on youtube and heard rumours this is possible on this phone.
Has anyone tried this?? as i would like to find out before buying. :-D
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I tried an old Nokia 3.5mm composite video/stereo lead and it worked well....ish, it's composite after all.
in what aspect? was the image shakey?
if it does not do it well i will get the iphone. thanks for replying btw :-D
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in what aspect? was the image shakey?
if it does not do it well i will get the iphone. thanks for replying btw :-D
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Not shaky, just the usual 'poor' quality composite image, nothing wrong with the 'phone.
The aspect is based on how you use the phone. If you hold it vertically, it will have a weird portrait resolution.
If you hold it landscape, it looks perfect on a widescreen TV.
I'm going to have a full Galaxy S Review up hopefully tonight, I document the feature.
I'm using some old Nokia TV Out cables at home, composite picture quality, but works just fine (no jitters or anything).
Definitely a welcome feature for me!
Why do you need to use some old cables?
Isn't there one provided in the box?
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Why do you need to use some old cables?
Isn't there one provided in the box?
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Because it isn't the recommended external video output. Obviously with the SGS being a HD phone outputting to composite isn't exactly going to be the best way of demonstrating the video features, hence the preferred DLNA option.
How is the DLNA feature?
Have any of you tried the DLNA feature with say a PS3 or XBOX? how does it work? is it smooth?
Probably a noob question, but i dont know so i thought id ask.
Do we have any way at all to output the Xperia Play picture to a TV yet?
Would be great to plug it into the TV while i am in bed and control iplayer and youtube and play some games etc.
the only 2 things that ive seen is
1. theres a new prototype play with a hdmi out on it and there is a video on youtube of someone using it.
2. ive seen a S.E docking station thats coming out that has a hdmi output
on it but its unclear if this adds hdmi to our plays, or just for the new plays that have hdmi out on already?
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the only 2 things that ive seen is
1. theres a new prototype play with a hdmi out on it and there is a video on youtube of someone using it.
2. ive seen a S.E docking station thats coming out that has a hdmi output
on it but its unclear if this adds hdmi to our plays, or just for the new plays that have hdmi out on already?
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That 'prototype' is for development use only.
Someone said he used a usb to hdmi adapter but then he was uncontactable...
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the only 2 things that ive seen is
1. theres a new prototype play with a hdmi out on it and there is a video on youtube of someone using it.
2. ive seen a S.E docking station thats coming out that has a hdmi output
on it but its unclear if this adds hdmi to our plays, or just for the new plays that have hdmi out on already?
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The plays with HDMI out, are development models, its not a new version
crispyduckling said:
the only 2 things that ive seen is
1. theres a new prototype play with a hdmi out on it and there is a video on youtube of someone using it.
2. ive seen a S.E docking station thats coming out that has a hdmi output
on it but its unclear if this adds hdmi to our plays, or just for the new plays that have hdmi out on already?
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Man, better not to answer if you don't know something well. That can confuse a lot of people.
1- The prototype you talk about it's just the device that the developers buy to make games for the Xperia Play and test them.
2- The LiveDock Multimedia Station (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImnhFtmyHNA) uses the USB port of some Xperia phones and outputs the image through the HDMI output that the dock has. The bad new is that the Xperia Play is not one of the compatible phones, although it has USB port.
And if there would be that new Xperia Play with HDMI output, why the heck would you need this dock if the mobile already would have HDMI output???
Someone said you can use a micro
Hdmi cable to connect it why not try? ;P
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I have a feeling they may release a USB - HDMI adapter for the Xperia Play but will also need software on the phone like Bravia Sync to allow for the phone display to be pushed to HDTV.
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I have a feeling they may release a USB - HDMI adapter for the Xperia Play but will also need software on the phone like Bravia Sync to allow for the phone display to be pushed to HDTV.
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That will be awesome (if SE decide to go with this idea).
Where do I have to sign to get one ?
I just want to be able to connect my first smartphone (the PLAY) with my 55" LED screen ... even my former, former, former dumb phone (Samsung D900) was capable of it... after that the replacements a Samsung F480 and a Samsung S8000 (the famous "Jet") weren't able.
anyway... I'm loving the Play... just hope SE don't leave us unsupported.
I bought an HDMI cable today so I can put Netflix onto my TV. I have an older HDTV, from 2004. It's a Panasonic model number pt-47x54j. When I plug my tablet into it, the little Android dude pops up onto the TV and and says 720p? I checked the owners manual and it says that the TV is only capable of 1080i, or 480p and 480i. I plugged my tablet into a more modern HDTV and it works just fine. Crystal Clear. Is there any way that I can get my a500 to work on my Panasonic TV? Attached is a screenshot of my TV's owner's manual on the page where it talks about HDMI inputs. Thanks in advance...
From the best of my knowledge you can't change this.Athens beat solution I could offer is Logitech Google TV.it rocks.and 70.00 amazon.
It can't be changed without hacking the drivers -- and even then micro HDMI is only capable of 720p output. All you can do is use a different TV or an adaptor (probably cheapest, but may lower video quality).
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From the best of my knowledge you can't change this.Athens beat solution I could offer is Logitech Google TV.it rocks.and 70.00 amazon.
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It can't be changed without hacking the drivers -- and even then micro HDMI is only capable of 720p output. All you can do is use a different TV or an adaptor (probably cheapest, but may lower video quality).
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Thanks. At this point, I'm just using my tablet to watch the movies on. That's good enough for me. Once my TVs start breaking and/or if I get this dream job that I'm currently chasing after, I'm going to get a more modern TV and all of my HDMI cable worries will go away. I put the Netflix App on my phone too. My 3 year old freaking loves it!! He is always asking for my phone to watch cartoons on. It's hilarious. haha
Of course, I'm still going to try to figure this crap out with my current TV. That's the fun part.
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It can't be changed without hacking the drivers -- and even then micro HDMI is only capable of 720p output. All you can do is use a different TV or an adaptor (probably cheapest, but may lower video quality).
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micro HDMI itself is capable of 1080p, but the tablet will only output 1080p if there's a 1080p stream (such as a 1080p movie). Netflix will not do 1080p, though.
This is really annoying. You can play a video using HDMI out to a TV and it plays full screen, as long as it is from Google movies. However if you try and play a video of your own it isn't full screen. It is missing about 3cm each side. I can't work out why or how to change it as it has the ability to. Any ideas?
Thanks
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Does it downscale the image to 1080p when you are in the UI? If not it might be that whatever app you are using is not yet set up for the N10.
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Yeah it cuts the side bits off. Only time you get full screen is via Google movie store
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Right, that's really odd. Wonder why they wouldn't have system-wide downscaling?
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Here we go... Let's see if this actually better than the Infinity. I returned it just to buy this. I use HDMI out a lot...
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Here we go... Let's see if this actually better than the Infinity. I returned it just to buy this. I use HDMI out a lot...
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Let me know if you have any luck outputting full screen
Yup. Huge bars on the side and can't get rid of the bottom bar like the tf700 can. I hope this is fixed. However, I messed with my bravia TV a little it is much better now. I'll post pics.
does audio work?
Does audio work?
There is a thread with 3 different people saying video works but not audio.
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Does audio work?
There is a thread with 3 different people saying video works but not audio.
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I'd also like to know.
I get sound, but both the sound and video stutter in Google play movies. Tried ice age and planet earth, both stuttered badly. Hoping this is just one of those things that will be fixed in an update.
I have had my Nexus 10 for about a week now and really like it. This YouTube issue is something that needs to be addressed. Ice Age plays full screen perfect 1080p smooth as silk. YouTube plays at lower quality in a black frame. It also plays on the tablet screen when plugged into HDMI to TV. Make the YouTube app perform like the Google Play app please
Any news on that?
I find that the youtube app won't go full screen when HDMI is plugged in, any solution?
I'm reading everywhere that ppl say it's not outputting fullscreen.
At the chance of being simply wrong: did you ever take into account that the usual TV with its 1080p resolution (1920x1080) has a 16:9 screen ratio but the tablet with its 2560x1600 resolution clearly has a 16:10 screen reatio.
So it simply does not match. If just mirroring what is seen on the tablet... it will always have those black bars on the TV screen.
Or am I just not understanding what everyone barks about?
The transformer it's also 16:10. It removes the bars and (no need for them on the TV) and voila. It also blanks the screen when watching videos. That's one area where the tramsformer is a lot better, but it's a simple fix. You know, I'm not picky but it really annoys ke that such a simple thing to fix has not been addressed. How can you test the HDMI and not notice that and at least give some basic options. That type of thing is inexcusable. Watch them never give us any options.
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I find that the youtube app won't go full screen when HDMI is plugged in, any solution?
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Thanked because I have the same issue. Anyone figured it out?
Movies
Is there anyone on 4.2.1 who can actually play Google play movies with hdmi out onto their TV?
Mine just stops at the "HDMI Screen" when I try to play the free ice age with a progress spinner in the middle, and other logs in logcat either that might explain the issue ( no logs at all). It's connected to my Samsung D8000 which is definitely HDCP compliant. I've never had it working. The film will play fine though when HDMI is not plugged in. It's really annoying cause I refuse to buy or rent films if I can't hook up to my TV.
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Is there anyone on 4.2.1 who can actually play Google play movies with hdmi out onto their TV?
Mine just stops at the "HDMI Screen" when I try to play the free ice age with a progress spinner in the middle, and other logs in logcat either that might explain the issue ( no logs at all). It's connected to my Samsung D8000 which is definitely HDCP compliant. I've never had it working. The film will play fine though when HDMI is not plugged in. It's really annoying cause I refuse to buy or rent films if I can't hook up to my TV.
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Mine works fine hooked up to tv with Google movies. I have not tried it while plugged into the wall though.
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Is there anyone on 4.2.1 who can actually play Google play movies with hdmi out onto their TV?
Mine just stops at the "HDMI Screen" when I try to play the free ice age with a progress spinner in the middle, and other logs in logcat either that might explain the issue ( no logs at all). It's connected to my Samsung D8000 which is definitely HDCP compliant. I've never had it working. The film will play fine though when HDMI is not plugged in. It's really annoying cause I refuse to buy or rent films if I can't hook up to my TV.
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I have no problem watching movies or TV shows with the Google Play Movies app, connected to a 46" Sharp TV. Audio & video are fine. There is the occasional stutter, but nothing too bad. I've only played shows off battery - I haven't tried it while charging yet, though I can't believe that would make a difference.
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I have no problem watching movies or TV shows with the Google Play Movies app, connected to a 46" Sharp TV. Audio & video are fine. There is the occasional stutter, but nothing too bad. I've only played shows off battery - I haven't tried it while charging yet, though I can't believe that would make a difference.
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Just tried again on my TV and on my computer monitors, all are fully HDCP compliant. It's either the tablet or the cable cause it doesn't work with any of those screens, just stops at spinner on HDMI Screen every time.
Unfortunately I don't have another device or another cable to rule out which is not the cause.
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