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Sprint says they're sticking with Unlimited Data plans

http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20111753-85/sprint-confirms-it-will-stick-with-unlimited-data-plans/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
Sprint's data-hungry customers can breathe a sigh of relief. The carrier's commitment to unlimited data plans remains unwaivering--at least for now.
So said Sprint Chief Technology Officer Stephen Bye when addressing attendees of GigaOm's Mobilize conference in San Francisco today.
While main competitors Verizon and AT&T are slashing their unlimited plans, Sprint sees it as a differentiator.
"There's clearly a cost to support unlimited," Bye admitted, adding that not every unlimited subscriber is as high a data user as his or her neighbor. At the same time, Bye emphasized the simplicity of supporting an unlimited data plan, citing the hidden cost for customer care and support related to tiered data plans.
Still, that cost would hardly displace the larger fee of maintaining and deploying a data network, especially a 4G network at that.
Despite an upbeat assurance that Sprint is in good competitive shape, Bye acknowledged the market pressure of maintaining an unlimited plan. "Is there pressure? Yeah," Bye said. "There's a challenge for all engineers to work on how we get the cost structure down."
Modernizing Sprint's network is the first step, especially phasing out its iDEN network and reallocating that network's budget to pay for current users' data habit. As for the rest, Sprint's partnership with LTE wholesaler LightSquared gives Sprint a de facto road map for deploying its own 4G LTE network to compete with Verizon and AT&T (Sprint currently uses Clearwire's WiMax.)
Sprint may be preparing to woo investors and analysts with a forthcoming statement on their 4G strategy, according to Bye, but that doesn't solve the problem of luring new customers and keeping the old, especially when they're also slashing perks for long-time loyalty.
Despite all that, Bye didn't drift too far from the message that Sprint wants to give people what they care about: free phones, simple plans, and unlimited data.
However what Sprint wants to give may not be what people eventually get. Signs and reports point to Sprint landing the iPhone soon, and if it does, it's a strong bet that the No. 3 carrier won't have the capacity to sustain unrestricted data for long, despite Sprint's assurance that it would
Read more: http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20...tick-with-unlimited-data-plans/#ixzz1ZB41LIWb
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Duh that's their only selling point at this time lol
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Sprint is a joke. Empty promises, bulls**t data signal, premium data charges and hidden charges. There is still NO 4G in Phoenix Arizona, the nations 6th largest city.
Sprint and their reps have been saying 4G was to roll out in August 2010. It's nearly 14 months later and still the same garbage. They just don't get it. I'm close to telling them to piss off and switching back to Verizon.

I haven't had any problems with Sprint at all. I have 5-8Mbps 4G, I have never had a dropped call, the Repair Center replaced my screen with no hassles when it went bad, they waived the early termination fee on my 3G USB internet card so I could get the ET4G at new 2 year price, they waived the activation fee, and they gave me the option to trade my Epic for a Nexus if I want to...no complaints here.
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MikeyLee said:
Sprint is a joke. Empty promises, bulls**t data signal, premium data charges and hidden charges. There is still NO 4G in Phoenix Arizona, the nations 6th largest city.
Sprint and their reps have been saying 4G was to roll out in August 2010. It's nearly 14 months later and still the same garbage. They just don't get it. I'm close to telling them to piss off and switching back to Verizon.
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That's exactly how I feel I heard 4g to be here in Phoenix in August also!
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I have no big issues with sprint except the slow data and limited 4g. Other than that they've been good
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MikeyLee said:
Sprint is a joke. Empty promises, bulls**t data signal, premium data charges and hidden charges. There is still NO 4G in Phoenix Arizona, the nations 6th largest city.
Sprint and their reps have been saying 4G was to roll out in August 2010. It's nearly 14 months later and still the same garbage. They just don't get it. I'm close to telling them to piss off and switching back to Verizon.
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Same here in Omaha. A large business city. But they have 4G in KC....I don't get it

Slow5Ohh said:
Same here in Omaha. A large business city. But they have 4G in KC....I don't get it
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kc is the major urban area near the sprint world hq in overland park ks. the sprint campus is less than 10 miles from downtown kansas city.
oh, and we do have about 3 times the population of "aromaha". there is that.

MikeyLee said:
Sprint is a joke. Empty promises, bulls**t data signal, premium data charges and hidden charges. There is still NO 4G in Phoenix Arizona, the nations 6th largest city.
Sprint and their reps have been saying 4G was to roll out in August 2010. It's nearly 14 months later and still the same garbage. They just don't get it. I'm close to telling them to piss off and switching back to Verizon.
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ac16313 said:
That's exactly how I feel I heard 4g to be here in Phoenix in August also!
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It's sad considering Phoenix was one of the first markets to get 3G

I think it is in Sprint's BEST business interests to keep unlimited data since it is their BEST selling feature and sets them apart from AT&T / Verizon .... my humble opinion

TexasEpic4G said:
I think it is in Sprint's BEST business interests to keep unlimited data since it is their BEST selling feature and sets them apart from AT&T / Verizon .... my humble opinion
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This
It sets sprint apart. It keeps them unique. It keeps them wanted
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austin420 said:
kc is the major urban area near the sprint world hq in overland park ks. the sprint campus is less than 10 miles from downtown kansas city.
oh, and we do have about 3 times the population of "aromaha". there is that.
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Aww, listen to you get all defensive about KC. How cute

Slow5Ohh said:
Aww, listen to you get all defensive about KC. How cute
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just sayin.

Krazycamel said:
Thx god! Sprint is a dirty skank but she sure has the best data package on the block! I refuse to leave this skank for that very reason. On a side note Austin is known to give good jobs aswell. Right buddy?
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Everything I do, I do with pride. Speaking of data packagez, is that a fatty deposit for sustanance on your back, or are you just happy to see me?
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I'm not sure you're missing much with the 4G. We have had it here in Nashville since I got my Epic, and I almost never turn it on because it's so unreliable.

I just activated a new phone on my sero plan, which is supposed to be unlimited data and this is what the terms say now:
3G Usage: Includes 5GB or 2GB of data usage. Add'l data usage $0.05/MB. 3G Usage Limitation: Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred, and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (1) 5GB or 2GB/month in total or (2) 300 MB or 100 MB/month while off-network roaming. 1,024 KB equal 1 MB. 1,024 MB equal 1 GB. 3G Data Usage Limitation does not apply to 4G usage. No plan discounts apply. Other Terms: Coverage not available everywhere. The Sprint 3G network (including roaming) reaches over 272 million people. Offers not available in all markets/retail locations or for all phones/networks. Pricing, offer terms, fees & features may vary for existing customers not eligible for upgrade. Other restrictions apply. See store or Sprint.com for details. © 2011 Sprint. Sprint and the logo are trademarks of Sprint. Android, Google, the Google logo and Android Market are trademarks of Google Inc. Other marks are the property of their respective owners. "

I just got off the phone with a sprint rep, because I was having trouble activating new phone. I asked about the capping, and he said that it's only for data cards. He hasn't heard anything of them limiting phones and there was no plans too. But this is coming from a sprint rep, so take it for what it's worth.

ugothakd said:
This
It sets sprint apart. It keeps them unique. It keeps them wanted
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It is Sprint's only competitive edge, given the overall suckage of its network coverage (non-renewal of tower lease agreements), 3g speed drop due to inadequate backhaul support and multitude of broken promises over the past two years re. 4G coverage and speeds. I am on SERO, and as recently as two years ago it was a steal. These days, despite SERO being cheap, I probably get what I pay for - but it feels like less since Sprint used to be better than this on the important fronts. Part of me feels sorry not to have left for VZW when their data plans were still uncapped, but I still hope that Sprint may improve by the beginning of 2012 or I'm done with Sprint after 6+ years, sadly.

caileb said:
It's sad considering Phoenix was one of the first markets to get 3G
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My 3g here if getting extremely spotty... Check this out, I'm sitting on 107th and camelback!
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I'll tell you what, if they just keep giving out the Airaves free (you use your own internet bandwidth rather than theirs), that's gotta be cheaper than putting up more towers and they can keep offering unlimited data. I'm not complaining anymore. I'm getting 6 bars in my house now with the Airave.

Throtting

So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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No, they don't throttle.
myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use.
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HAHA welcome to the "Now Network". Sprint=dial-up speeds. Myself, or my 3 friends on Sprint, haven't gotten above 100kbps since last October. It happens everywhere I travel too. Well, except between 2am and 4am, then it works perfectly fine, when everyone else is asleep.

It seems to me like they do during the day. My 3g is not near as fast as it used to be during the day. It wasnt a gradual decrease. More like a sudden. While my connection at my house still pulls 1.0-1.3mbps at my house during the day, I used to get 2+mbps there during the day. Now I don't get that speed til 1-5am. You're probably thinking "wtf are you *****ing about?!" Cuz it is very fast at my house. ****ty part is that everywhere else its nowhere near 1.0mbps. More like 0.2-0.4. And I'm NEVER home. That's the problem. Oh well. Its either live with it or go pay $40-50 more to get raped by verizon.
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Mine used to be around 3Mb/s on 3g, that was when I first got my contract. It seems the more I tethered and used more and more data the slower it got. yestursay I got .25 mb/s! Flashed radios this morning and i'm up to 1.
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It seems to me like they do during the day.
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No, they don't throttle during the day, they dont throttle at all. The reason your speeds are crappy during the day is because there are too many people using it during the day, and each tower's crappy T1 line backhaul can't handle more than a few MB/s total for everyone connected to it.

Darn you other sprint users i'm my area, turn your 3g off!
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One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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megabiteg said:
One thing that we all have to remember is that sprint subcontracts its network to other providers (virgin, republic, boost...) And all their customers uses our network as well.
Think about it, Verizon really doesn't lend their network, that's why you pay higher prices, because you have their full resource.
We pay lower prices but we have to share...
Just a thought...
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Please don't talk about things you know nothing of. Verizon has MVNOs just as Sprint does.

Deathsnuggle said:
DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
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No it is just naturally slow. I guess you could say it comes "pre-throttled"
KJ

Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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jamieg71 said:
Unfortunately I did not take screen shotts to back this up, so fwiw.....
I have been throttled while on 4g. It was not a signal issue, peak use/time thing, straight up throttled. Long story short- My desktop got fried several days back. Replaced it, had to start from scratch software wise.
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That screen shot is for Nov.3 - 11th. Right towards the end of a 5.2gig d/l (cs5.5 master collection) My 4g speeds here @ home avg 17-2300kbs on a bad day. While going through pdanet I realize 3-500kbs @ the desktop. @ about 5030 MB my d/l speeds sank to 39 kbs have been stuck there since. Called sprint they said my data usage is "suspect" and will be monitored untill my next billing cycle.
So keep it under 9 gigs a day kids.. they WILL throttle you.
I pay for the hotspots btw.
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Paid hotspots are now limited to 5gb data per month did ya not get the notice? After 5gb hotspot ur either throttled or paying per mb FYI
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Deathsnuggle said:
So there isn't really any definitive answer, so i'm making topic on it: DOES SPRINT THROTTLE?
I know they say they don't throttle, but myself and a number of friends have noticed a big drop in data speed the more we use. So what does everyone else think?
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The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.

tmwilsoniv said:
The short answer is, "It depends."
I am well versed in the 4G arena, not so much 3g/EVDO.
When you discuss Sprint's 4G network, you are really discussing the re-branding and re-selling of Clearwire's Wimax network. Any discussion of Clearwire's Wimax must include an understanding of N.I.M.S., which stands for, Network Integrity Management System. That's code for THROTTLING!!
In a nutshell, Clear directly, and through its wholesale distributors, continues to sell more bandwidth than it has available to deliver. During periods of low demand, all is well. During times of high demand, N.I.M.S. automatically kicks in. A quick Google search of Clearwire N.I.M.S. should provide the triggers and effects.
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...-overextending-coverage-to-lure-customers.ars
http://www.geekwire.com/2011/clearwire-boosts-wholesale-subscriber-count-headwinds-mount
To parse Sprint's claim that they do not throttle is easy. They don't; Clear does it for them.
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Thanks for the explanation. Makes sense now, how I get throttled living in a city of 600k, but someone out in a rural area remains untouched. It's all good tho, just discovered a new open wifi here in the neighborhood... lol
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I live in the middle of nowhere I share a Sprint tower with maybe 20 houses that are within its range I get anywhere from 1 - 3 mbps dl and close to 1 mbps up on 3g. I use an assload of data anywhere from 15 - 50 gb a month on my line alone. We have 5 lines and a data card between us we use the 5 gb of the data card as the only other option for internet is dial up or satellite and the phones we have hit about 200gb of data between the 5 phones and Sprint has never said **** about it. Although we have been on Sprint since god knows when I've been on Sprint for 13 yrs but my dad was on this account for 5 or 6 yrs b4 that. I remember having sprints old red logo on my phones and going thru the Nextel merger. Hell I gotta box with some really old Sprint phones going back to a startac my first ever Sprint phone was one of those cool old Nokias u could swap the face plate on lol
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Ha! I had one of those Nokias, but my first real cell phone was an Oki 910. Before that it was a Motorola bag phone, still have that old beast in storage some where.. Just bought some new boots, the box would fit in the "bag" lol
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Sprint VS T-Mobile or Tmobile and Throttling

So, its just about time to upgrade to upgrade my Sprint Phone (Evo). I got it coming up in May, unless something changes I might be going with the SG2, just looks great and it has capabilities for LTE as well as Wimax.
I just got a new job that lets me get a discount on T-Mobile, and I after looking at their plans, it would save me a few bucks (literally like 4). I have heard rumors that HSPA+ is slighly faster than Wimax but I never compared the two.
So HSPA+ faster than Wimax?
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I use my phone 90% of the time as a router. My college blocks everything so I am always on tether. I just looked it up and used 16GB last month, and that seems to be the lower average. My point is that Sprint's unlimited truly means unlimited with no caps. T-Mobile throttles after 2GB or 5GB according to the plan. How much of a throttle? Is it significant?

It throttles you down to EDGE speeds, so 2g. Around 20kbps, which won't load a black and white smiley face on your screen for 20 seconds. If you're going to use more than 5GB's per month, stick with Sprint.
T-Mobile throttles at different tiers on different plans, from 100MB-5GB
Speeds on HSPA+ seem to be faster for me on T-Mobile than on Sprint in Portland, Oregon. That could be different for you, but T-Mobile's 42mbps HSPA+ Is closer to LTE than WiMax in my opinion.

In some areas T-Mobile also forcibly compresses all images pulled down in web pages regardless of your data usage and data plan. There is no way to turn this "feature" off.

Well first the SGS2 does not support Wimax and lte...no device does except for a hotspot...
Imho you will be better off not getting the SGS2 and instead using your upgrade on a truly new device that the hardware spec is not a year old almost. That is unless $ is a big factor and you don't want to spend $250ish on a device...
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Did some research and found you are right. It is really disappointing because I had a Sprint tech and a Sprint sales rep tell me point blank that the SG2 was Wimax and LTE. Can't trust people nowadays.

Battery consumption is much better with HSPA+ vs LTE.
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It throttles you down to EDGE speeds, so 2g. Around 20kbps, which won't load a black and white smiley face on your screen for 20 seconds. If you're going to use more than 5GB's per month, stick with Sprint.
T-Mobile throttles at different tiers on different plans, from 100MB-5GB
Speeds on HSPA+ seem to be faster for me on T-Mobile than on Sprint in Portland, Oregon. That could be different for you, but T-Mobile's 42mbps HSPA+ Is closer to LTE than WiMax in my opinion.
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Goes to up to 10.
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In some areas T-Mobile also forcibly compresses all images pulled down in web pages regardless of your data usage and data plan. There is no way to turn this "feature" off.
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False.

iball8888 said:
Did some research and found you are right. It is really disappointing because I had a Sprint tech and a Sprint sales rep tell me point blank that the SG2 was Wimax and LTE. Can't trust people nowadays.
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Yeah no problem, didn't want u going out and buying a device being that misled...
It's a shame when that crap happens to ppl.
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sgt. slaughter said:
Yeah no problem, didn't want u going out and buying a device being that misled...
It's a shame when that crap happens to ppl.
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I used to be a Sprint store technician, and when the Epic Touch had the Loss of Signal issue (which has long been fixed, officially), Sprint's Tech Support over the phone told me that I should have bought an iPhone because Android always breaks. Word for word. I was like, ok so give me an iPhone, I'll give back the Epic Touch. And they said no.
These days you have to fend for yourself unfortunately. Chances are, if you're an XDA user, you know more than a carrier's tech support.

chrischoi said:
False.
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Explain. I suffered this issue for four months and had to switch to AT&T to avoid it.

To the OP. I tried switching to t-mobile twice because IMO they have better phones and prices. but both times I had to switch back. my story: i knew tmobile had the 5gb data cap on teh monthly 4g plan i wanted so I checked my sprint data usage for 5 months and noticed i am only using 2-3 gb a month. I figured great so i went and got the Htc amaze after 6 days by data usage was over 1.5 gb. I went to the store and asked them is it possible that the data reading on the phone and website could be wrong? my setup was the same on my sprint evo and my htc amaze so it wasn't a program that could have been using that much data so i returned the phone. 2 weeks later i went back to the store drooling over the amaze but knew i couldn't get it because i would go over the 5gb easy. I spoke with a rep and he said he uses data heavily and never goes over so i said ok ill try it again maybe it was the phone. this time around i didn't tether at all except for 5 min to test it out. hardly used Pandora and made sure my setup was the same as the evo. this time i gave it 10 days and i was already over 3gb. i was half ass using my phone and still i would have been over. I have searched about this called tmobile and haven't come up with a good reason why this phone was using so much data. a buddy of mine went to att and i told him that he would def go over but after a few days he said no man im good . at the end of the month he called *****ing that he went over the att cap which was even lower than tmobile. until the come up with a prepaid plan that gives 10gb i have to stay away. oh yea and when they throttle you the above comments are correct its edge speed and way to slow for anything but email and light web surfing.

iball8888 said:
I just looked it up and used 16GB last month, and that seems to be the lower average. My point is that Sprint's unlimited truly means unlimited with no caps. T-Mobile throttles after 2GB or 5GB according to the plan. How much of a throttle? Is it significant?
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I think this will be the main issue.
When I pass 5GB, I get throttled to EDGE (2G) speeds. For most purposes this is like running out of data. You're going to be stuck at 2GB or 5GB. Email is fine at EDGE speeds - anything else requires too much speed.
Stick with Sprint, as it seems the savings aren't really significant, anyway.

IMO Sprint sucks if you're not in a Wimax area and the Wimax isn't that great anyway.. Sprint's EVDO network is an absolute JOKE. I figured since I'm not covered by Wimax I'd switch my E4GT to Boost to save money, but Boost's(Sprint's) EVDO was nowhere near as fast as T-Mobile's 3G.. It really sucks because my E4GT is hands down the best phone I've ever used, but the internet is almost unusable it's so slow.. I'm putting it up for sale soon to switch back to T-Mobile.

Speeds really depend on where you live. I have spotty 4g in my area but never need it. at my house i have to use wifi but in most places i can stream Pandora without any buffering. everyone always talks about speed but as long as you can stream music and video without and buffering whats the issue? unless you are tethering to your pc and downloading torrents speeds over 250kps will stream just fine.

This is how Verizon does it:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDxJoGv3FLA&feature=channel
Now that is throttling right there. They send me a new phone and it does the same. They have lied to me 3 times now, one that was just needed a reset, that I just needed a new phone and they don't throttle. I had only used 12GB and they do that. OK thats BS

itsjefflol said:
IMO Sprint sucks if you're not in a Wimax area and the Wimax isn't that great anyway.. Sprint's EVDO network is an absolute JOKE. I figured since I'm not covered by Wimax I'd switch my E4GT to Boost to save money, but Boost's(Sprint's) EVDO was nowhere near as fast as T-Mobile's 3G.. It really sucks because my E4GT is hands down the best phone I've ever used, but the internet is almost unusable it's so slow.. I'm putting it up for sale soon to switch back to T-Mobile.
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Gonna be leaving right before the network takes a giant improvement with the network vision deployment set to be complete by end of next year....3G speeds 1-3Mbps....most all 3G coverage blanketed by LTE.....
Check S4GRU.com for some details on the rollout schedule. This isn't the sprint.com/network crap that's shown this is completely different and involves backhaul changes from the ancient T1 based to microwave/fiber based...
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T-mobile rocks over Sprint for data, coverage and price
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To the OP. I tried switching to t-mobile twice because IMO they have better phones and prices. but both times I had to switch back. my story: i knew tmobile had the 5gb data cap on teh monthly 4g plan i wanted so I checked my sprint data usage for 5 months and noticed i am only using 2-3 gb a month. I figured great so i went and got the Htc amaze after 6 days by data usage was over 1.5 gb. I went to the store and asked them is it possible that the data reading on the phone and website could be wrong? my setup was the same on my sprint evo and my htc amaze so it wasn't a program that could have been using that much data so i returned the phone. 2 weeks later i went back to the store drooling over the amaze but knew i couldn't get it because i would go over the 5gb easy. I spoke with a rep and he said he uses data heavily and never goes over so i said ok ill try it again maybe it was the phone. this time around i didn't tether at all except for 5 min to test it out. hardly used Pandora and made sure my setup was the same as the evo. this time i gave it 10 days and i was already over 3gb. i was half ass using my phone and still i would have been over. I have searched about this called tmobile and haven't come up with a good reason why this phone was using so much data. a buddy of mine went to att and i told him that he would def go over but after a few days he said no man im good . at the end of the month he called *****ing that he went over the att cap which was even lower than tmobile. until the come up with a prepaid plan that gives 10gb i have to stay away. oh yea and when they throttle you the above comments are correct its edge speed and way to slow for anything but email and light web surfing.
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I picked up my HTC Amaze (a 42.2 mbps device) on T-mobile in early January, and I live in a California city that has T-mobile HSPA+ 42.2 mbps coverage, just to be clear. When I bought my Amaze, I had to re-up my contract and at the time, I was asked to choose between a 5GB plan per month ($25 on top of the monthly $40 value plan) and a 10GB plan per month ($50 + my $40 value plan). So for price, it is impossible to beat T-mobile for the service you get.
I use my Amaze daily to go online, download and upload large files (I am a graphic designer) and watch videos and stream music. For the last 5 months I've had my phone, I've come close to 5GB twice. That is with heavy usage and this last month having a nearly two hour Skype conversation with a friend of mine where I used 2GB in one sitting!!! I also use my phone with the free WiFi Hotspot feature that comes with the 5GB & 10GB data plan as my computer's internet provider. I don't have a physical cable in my house, just my Amaze.
As far as speed, my friends with iPhones on ALL 3 NETWORKS (Sprint, Verizon and AT&T) all get slower speeds than I do. I was challenged by them and shut them all up in contests against google searches, Siri vs Google Voice Search and Speedtest.net. I have also speedtested the nicer handsets by Samsung and HTC running on AT&T and matched or beat them in my city in a few places around town. Sprint's speed was not even on the radar, barely chugging at 1mbps usually. I pull over 12 mbps usually everywhere I go, with upload speeds from 5-8 mbps on average.
As far as data, I have never gone over my 5GB but see how others could, and I bet when T-mobile gets LTE Advance up and running I'll add in the extra 5 gigs.
The greater points I'm making are the following:
A) Sprint's network it a sham. Even when they finally get around to offering LTE in California, which will be who-knows-when, T-mobile will have switched on its LTE advanced release 10 network, with HSPA+ 42.2 mbps backup, nationally. If you're a Sprint user, jump ship now or when T-mobile lights it up in 2013.
B) It's pretty darn hard to use up 5 Gigs per month if your not a power user. I don't know how someone with the HTC Amaze and the Usage monitor that is part of T-mobile's apps and in the HTC phone itself can't determine what was eating up data. That just doesn't make sense. You can easily pinpoint what's using your data by using the included Usage setting on your phone. And if 5GB isn't enough, get 10! But that option does exist.
C) T-mobile may not offer unlimited data speed at 4G, but get a 10GB plan and you will fly over the speeds you get on Sprint and save money while doing it. You could pay one price on Sprint for 1.5 mbps download speed unlimited (SLOW), or you could pay the same, maybe a little less and get 10GB at 4G speeds on T-mobile... and then in 2013 enjoy them lighting up a national LTE advance network that will arguably be the speediest LTE network on the planet.
D) The HTC Amaze is one bad-ass MoFo of a phone.
That is all.

for me i switched from t-mobile to boost because of their lack of 3g/4g in my town on t-mobile i was always on edge it is very slow, i switched to boost and i have EvDO now, its not the best of the best but atleast i can open a website now without my screen timing out. :good:

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I used to be a Sprint store technician, and when the Epic Touch had the Loss of Signal issue (which has long been fixed, officially), Sprint's Tech Support over the phone told me that I should have bought an iPhone because Android always breaks. Word for word. I was like, ok so give me an iPhone, I'll give back the Epic Touch. And they said no.
These days you have to fend for yourself unfortunately. Chances are, if you're an XDA user, you know more than a carrier's tech support.
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You know what, they did the same thing to my dad. There was a hardware issue with his OG evo (a great phone during its day) where the speaker was going too quiet. The sales guy basically was telling him how it's because it's an android phone, how much better iphone is, etc.
Honestly I think the reason they are doing this is because they literally bet their future on the iphone. They are guaranteed to be paying apple 16 billion dollars over the next 4 years, regardless of whether or not they actually sell that much money worth of iphones. You better believe that they are going to try their damndest to sell them.
Anyways, I'm thinking of ditching sprint for t-mobile myself. I live in phoenix, which has zero 4g coverage from sprint. Several years back they told me that they would be deploying wimax here shortly. Where are we now? Nowhere.
I called them earlier today to cancel one of my lines, and they kept asking me if I want to use it for a data card, or if I just wanted to hold on to it "just in case" etc. I told the lady that I am thinking of switching to t-mobile, gave her all of these reasons why, and she brings up the "unlimited data" talking point. I kind of chuckle under my breath, and then tell her that their 3g service is really slow, their 4g service barely compares to other carrier's 3g service, and finally, they don't even offer 4g in my area, which is the 6th largest city in the US. She then tells me that they are going to be offering it here soon, so I tell her that that's what they told me a few years ago.
Yeah there are "rumors" that phoenix is due early in their second rollout, however similar rumors kept surfacing about wimax coming to phoenix next an entire year after it finished rolling out everywhere else. Other smaller towns outside of the valley (and I mean like over 70 miles away) got it, but not in the valley area.
In any case, I am on my third "4g" phone, and still have not ever had 4g. Even if LTE came soon to my area, I'm not terribly excited about it, mainly because the LTE gnex has a quarter of the battery life of the HSPA version when both are actively using 4g. I don't care if LTE is 10% faster, it's a huge f*cking battery drain.
Anyways, I'm not a heavy data user, so 4g hasn't been a huge priority to me. What is annoying is how I have to fight sprint's billing department every other month because they always manage to screw up something on my bill and overcharge me. I've been dealing with this for the last 7 years and I am tired of it. Sprint sucks, 'nuff said.
I really want to jump off of sprint, but I am hesitant because I don't know if t-mobile's voice service is more spotty, because according to sensorly their coverage is about 80% of that of sprint in my area. However, t-mobile would save me $40 a month, and because of the company I work for, I will have the activation fee waived.

Sprint coverage is so spotty. According to the coverage map I'm suppose to get 4g in my neighborhood and I don't. 98% percent of the time I'm on slow 3g. With T-Mobile I'm on 4g everywhere I go and its a good feeling to pull out your phone and handle your business with ease and speed unlike sprint.
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Are there any NON throttled 4g data plans out there?

Well I got my brand-new Samsung galaxy S3 (off contract) and I’ve been playing around the last couple of weeks streaming video and whatnot and to my surprise I get the dreaded text message from AT&T stating that I just got throttled. This is the first-time and I am PISSED!! I am SURE this has been covered before but it’s the first time for me. I had no idea exactly how much they throttled you by until now. I mean you can’t do anything once they tightened the noose. I am grandfathered in with an unlimited LTE plan also which really makes it that much more irritating. Well I guess I need to download that app that finds free hotspots. I am in the San Antonio Texas area and we have good mobile data coverage down here so I have to wonder if there are any providers offering a truly unlimited non-throttled or less throttled 4g (of some kind) data plan. I know that Sprint is just getting their LTE service fired up and they are offering an unlimited plan in my area and technically I am not under contract right now which I made abundantly clear to the AT&T employee that I was speaking with (ranting to) like she cared. Does Sprint pull the same crap that AT&T does? Do I have any options? Thanks in advance.

Sprint just deployed their LTE recently and I've seen data speeds around 30+ MB/s reported by users in Texas
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We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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I'm a moron. Nm.

When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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LTE? How are speeds?

s1mpd1ddy said:
When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Lucky. Tmo goes to edge which is Max .08mbps
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erichj said:
We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB

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Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB
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Good god, may I ask what you use all that data doing? I'm getting 10mbs on sprint.
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To answer you question there are no gimmicks with Sprint when it comes to unlimited data. There plans really are unlimited and I live in Atlanta where my 4gLTE just activated and I am very pleased with the speeds. I'm loving Sprint right now.
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Since the 5th, I've switched to Sprint. Coverage blows in stl, but blown past my 2gb cap I had with att and living that so far. Some coverage and I will be set!
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If I had lte on sprint I'd be all over it. But 3g by me is horrible and no service whatsoever at my house really kills it. So I recently switched to att where my coverage is awesome and my 3g is easily 8x faster on average. If lte on sprint ever comes to my area I will certainly reconsider my choice. Until then ill live with my 5gb att cap.
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5. something gbs........ throttled
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LTE? How are speeds?
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I live in Jefferson City, MO and we aren't slated for LTE until later this year.
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The only reason Sprint has been able to offer truely unlimited plans is because the speeds were just too slow to generate any meaningful volume. With LTE now, they will be in the same position (likely worse equipped) once volume increases across the network. Enjoy it while it lasts. I certainly wouldn't be jumping ship having unlimited (5g) with ATT in hand to have fully unlimited data for a year or so.

Sprint doesn't cut you off or anything when it comes to data usage (unless you're roaming.) Go to 500 gb a month if you'd like.

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5. something gbs........ throttled
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Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds

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Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds
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as it should be... its 4g

I don't know why people are so up in arms about this stuff. Most carriers are going to tiered data.... it's the way it is and nothing's changing that. It's already been in the rumor mill based on some things done/said by sprint that they too, will be going to throttled/tiered methods to controlling data. I don't know about you guys, but I know that ever since tethering became very popular, TONS of people have been trying to use their mobile data connections as primary internet sources. While it's all fine and dandy that you feel that you should use your data how you want, the networks (and when I say networks, i mean ALL of them) are not yet ready to support everybody's daily habits and still be strong enough to support the current flow of telephone calls or data calls.
When that day comes, by all means, have the carriers put out unlimited data plans and have your telephone be your primary internet connection, but until that day when the networks are strong enough to support it, I still want to be able to make phone calls if need be, especially in an emergency.
By having service, it doesn't give anybody the right to unlimited data, or if they do have it, to use it however they wish. There are still terms and conditions with each company. I know it's not something that everybody likes, but it's the way life is. I am personally pretty glad that the carriers are approaching it this way, because in my area, I see first hand how tethering on smart phones can easily cripple networks at this current time.
I'll give you all an example. I work in a town of 45,000 people, with a "metropolitan" style town surrounding with a grand total of like 80,000 people. That's not a whole lot, which means there's not a ****load of towers here to support our mobile data/calling habits. The thing is, we're in Wisconsin, and there's a lot of places in Wisconsin that you can now get 3G service but can't even get Satellite internet service more than 700kbps. 3G service in those areas average 1-2 megs of service. HSPA/HSPA+ service in some of those areas range from 3-9megs of service. With a cost of $30-80 for sat. service, it's obvious what people would rather use for their internet. If even a 3rd of those 80,000 people started using their phones as primary internet connections, our network would quickly become stressed.
It's becoming more and more obvious to me every day too, that people are wanting to use their phone as a primary internet connection because they can't get land line service or want to save money on a more frequent basis. At least once or twice a day I get a customer coming in and asking us about our mobile internet service because they want to get rid of their land lines to save money, consolidate bills, or can't get land lines at home.
With the rate of how many people are now getting their hands on phones that are capable of tethering, that could very quickly change the work load of the towers on ANY network, be it sprint, at&t, tmo, verizon etc etc.... and it's not going to be for the better.... for now.
I guess the moral of the story is, as a person who still utilizes land line services as his primary source of internet (especially for streaming content/downloading content), I would love to have the cell phone towers I utilize still be able to support my telephone calls, instead of straining to support everybody's netflix addictions. Until the networks are built to support that kind of stuff, I can't say I disapprove of the way things are going on the carriers. Nobody's entitled to anything when it comes to service, and that being said, is what gives freedom of choice when it comes to your carrier choice. Just keep in mind that Sprint is looking more and more likely to follow suit with the tiered/throttled plans... seeing as they've already done it (according to articles, don't know if it's actually implemented) on their hotspot devices. If it's true, and has happened, It's not long till they do it to their smartphones, since every single one is ALSO a hotspot device.
*rant over*
P.S. This post is not meant to directly flame, offend, or belittle anyone for their habits. Everybody is different and has their own opinions, so keep in mind that this is MY opinion and the way I feel. Please keep your responses to it civil, because if they turn childish and mean hearted, i'll make sure the mods know and maybe close it because there's no need for that.

Att gophone canceling all data packages over 50mb?

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thats a rip off!
$5 for 50mb is robbery.. i paid an extra $30 for 10gb on tmobile.

That message must be worded wrong. AT&T just enabled LTE on GoPhone and they are now trying to get smartphone customers on prepaid. They still have the $5, $15, and $25 plans. They definitely are not dropping all data plans but the 50mb plan. If they did that, then that would kill off smartphones on GoPhone.

Well I truly hope it's worded wrong..
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jlear3 said:
Did anyone else get this text?
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I got the text today too, mine also said any auto renewals of data packages will be canceled. I only have the 200 MB plan and have only used 16 MB in 3 weeks so it looks like I still may be able to get by with only 50 MB. I'm on wifi 99% of the time now and use mobile data now strictly for emergencies only. I think AT&T is trying to push everyone into their new service, there is a thread here about it somewhere, its supposed to be a direct competitor to Net10 and StraightTalk. I didn't really like the looks of it.

I got it, I read something on CNET about how they are introducing LTE on gophone, and sometime in mid june theres supposed to be new data packages available. So I'm hoping that the new data plans are just replacing the ones that are disappearing, and having only one choice is only temporary. If not, I'm a bit screwed...

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I got it, I read something on CNET about how they are introducing LTE on gophone, and sometime in mid june theres supposed to be new data packages available. So I'm hoping that the new data plans are just replacing the ones that are disappearing, and having only one choice is only temporary. If not, I'm a bit screwed...
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Just read the article and it says data will be LTE/HSPA+, we currently have 3G/HSPA+, so I would expect to see an increase in the price of the data plans. Their standard data plans run $20(300 MB), $30(3 GB) and $50(5 GB). I could live with that but I would assume we would need new sims to access the data and as we don't have 4G/LTE phones are we even going to be able to activate the Nexus 4 on the network? The LTE network where I live isn't band 4 so that part is out of the question but would it then default to HSPA+?

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Just read the article and it says data will be LTE/HSPA+, we currently have 3G/HSPA+, so I would expect to see an increase in the price of the data plans. Their standard data plans run $20(300 MB), $30(3 GB) and $50(5 GB). I could live with that but I would assume we would need new sims to access the data and as we don't have 4G/LTE phones are we even going to be able to activate the Nexus 4 on the network? The LTE network where I live isn't band 4 so that part is out of the question but would it then default to HSPA+?
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I think the plan should still support hspa+. It's like when I was on Verizon, the 4g coverage wasn't near as good as the 3g, so when I was out of 4g areas I still got 3g. Plus I could still force 3g even in a 4g area.

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I think the plan should still support hspa+. It's like when I was on Verizon, the 4g coverage wasn't near as good as the 3g, so when I was out of 4g areas I still got 3g. Plus I could still force 3g even in a 4g area.
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I found the thread about getting a 4G data plan from AT&T for the Nexus 4. I knew I read somewhere that you had to jump through a lot of hoops to get a 4G plan (not HSPA+) from AT&T for the Nexus 4. AT&T in most cases won't activate the Nexus 4 on their network as a 4G device, you have to use another 4G phones IMEI that you basically steal and use that IMEI to activate the device on AT&T. The guys at my AT&T store are pretty cool so I might be able to talk them into hooking me up with a 4G plan.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021401&highlight=at&t

It seems if you are on the $25 plan, they will only offer 50mb from now on and the only other option will be the $65 plan that includes unlimited talk/text + 1GB of data. For now these will be the only options. You have to think AT&T is going to add other options but maybe not knowing AT&T.

I have nearly $50 in my prepaid AT&T account, and I'll lose it if I cancel, but so be it. I already got burned once when I paid $25 for 1 GB of data to use for a week and it expired before my next trip even though I used less than half.
T-Mobile gets my business from now on when I cross the border. $3/day for unlimited talk/text + up to 200 MB on high speed. It's a no brainer. Afaik, TMo has good coverage over the places I visit the most by now (Boston, Buffalo, Bellingham, Bay Area).

machoman1337 said:
I have nearly $50 in my prepaid AT&T account, and I'll lose it if I cancel, but so be it. I already got burned once when I paid $25 for 1 GB of data to use for a week and it expired before my next trip even though I used less than half.
T-Mobile gets my business from now on when I cross the border. $3/day for unlimited talk/text + up to 200 MB on high speed. It's a no brainer. Afaik, TMo has good coverage over the places I visit the most by now (Boston, Buffalo, Bellingham, Bay Area).
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I really wish they'd expand their data. Doesn't even get close to covering me at home or work.
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New GoPhone plans Announced Today
jlear3 said:
I really wish they'd expand their data. Doesn't even get close to covering me at home or work.
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New GoPhone plans will be available starting June 21. They look really good to me.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/1...w-plans-4g-lte-access-on-june-21/#more-111159

kzoodroid said:
New GoPhone plans will be available starting June 21. They look really good to me.
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Compared to what? Not T-Mobile or straight talk.

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Compared to what? Not T-Mobile or straight talk.
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Tried both and they suck, as has pretty much everyone in this thread but you it appears. Yeah you can get a $30 plan from T-Mobile but if you can't get a signal anywhere but on the Interstate what good is it? And ST? What a joke, you get throttled in a heart beat, customer service is non-existent and the GoPhone plans are actually about the same price so their is no deal there.

kzoodroid said:
Tried both and they suck, as has pretty much everyone in this thread but you it appears. Yeah you can get a $30 plan from T-Mobile but if you can't get a signal anywhere but on the Interstate what good is it? And ST? What a joke, you get throttled in a heart beat, customer service is non-existent and the GoPhone plans are actually about the same price so their is no deal there.
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Really? $45 is about the same as $60?

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Really? $45 is about the same as $60?
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No, but when you get throttled for doing nothing, data speeds suck and are sometimes completely unusable, and have nonexistent customer service, the price difference doesn't mean anything. Plus gophone is going to give you the full att postpaid data service and speeds, meaning that you won't have a bandwidth cap. MVNO's buy data from att, I seriously doubt they are giving you the full speed that att "reserves" for their post paid customers.

kzoodroid said:
Tried both and they suck, as has pretty much everyone in this thread but you it appears. Yeah you can get a $30 plan from T-Mobile but if you can't get a signal anywhere but on the Interstate what good is it?
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You said the plans looked good. I wasn't commenting on service. The plans are not comparable to pretty much any prepaid service.

I just cancelled my t-mobile account today. I have been with them since January this year.
No signal anywhere, and I'm done with them. Data speeds are fantastic, if you can get a signal. My loss of signal is 60% with them.
I'm gong to att go phone.
Can someone tell me what I need to do to get a micro sim card to get the go phone service started???