http://www.cnet.com/8301-17918_1-20111753-85/sprint-confirms-it-will-stick-with-unlimited-data-plans/?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20
Sprint's data-hungry customers can breathe a sigh of relief. The carrier's commitment to unlimited data plans remains unwaivering--at least for now.
So said Sprint Chief Technology Officer Stephen Bye when addressing attendees of GigaOm's Mobilize conference in San Francisco today.
While main competitors Verizon and AT&T are slashing their unlimited plans, Sprint sees it as a differentiator.
"There's clearly a cost to support unlimited," Bye admitted, adding that not every unlimited subscriber is as high a data user as his or her neighbor. At the same time, Bye emphasized the simplicity of supporting an unlimited data plan, citing the hidden cost for customer care and support related to tiered data plans.
Still, that cost would hardly displace the larger fee of maintaining and deploying a data network, especially a 4G network at that.
Despite an upbeat assurance that Sprint is in good competitive shape, Bye acknowledged the market pressure of maintaining an unlimited plan. "Is there pressure? Yeah," Bye said. "There's a challenge for all engineers to work on how we get the cost structure down."
Modernizing Sprint's network is the first step, especially phasing out its iDEN network and reallocating that network's budget to pay for current users' data habit. As for the rest, Sprint's partnership with LTE wholesaler LightSquared gives Sprint a de facto road map for deploying its own 4G LTE network to compete with Verizon and AT&T (Sprint currently uses Clearwire's WiMax.)
Sprint may be preparing to woo investors and analysts with a forthcoming statement on their 4G strategy, according to Bye, but that doesn't solve the problem of luring new customers and keeping the old, especially when they're also slashing perks for long-time loyalty.
Despite all that, Bye didn't drift too far from the message that Sprint wants to give people what they care about: free phones, simple plans, and unlimited data.
However what Sprint wants to give may not be what people eventually get. Signs and reports point to Sprint landing the iPhone soon, and if it does, it's a strong bet that the No. 3 carrier won't have the capacity to sustain unrestricted data for long, despite Sprint's assurance that it would
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Duh that's their only selling point at this time lol
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Sprint is a joke. Empty promises, bulls**t data signal, premium data charges and hidden charges. There is still NO 4G in Phoenix Arizona, the nations 6th largest city.
Sprint and their reps have been saying 4G was to roll out in August 2010. It's nearly 14 months later and still the same garbage. They just don't get it. I'm close to telling them to piss off and switching back to Verizon.
I haven't had any problems with Sprint at all. I have 5-8Mbps 4G, I have never had a dropped call, the Repair Center replaced my screen with no hassles when it went bad, they waived the early termination fee on my 3G USB internet card so I could get the ET4G at new 2 year price, they waived the activation fee, and they gave me the option to trade my Epic for a Nexus if I want to...no complaints here.
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Sprint is a joke. Empty promises, bulls**t data signal, premium data charges and hidden charges. There is still NO 4G in Phoenix Arizona, the nations 6th largest city.
Sprint and their reps have been saying 4G was to roll out in August 2010. It's nearly 14 months later and still the same garbage. They just don't get it. I'm close to telling them to piss off and switching back to Verizon.
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That's exactly how I feel I heard 4g to be here in Phoenix in August also!
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I have no big issues with sprint except the slow data and limited 4g. Other than that they've been good
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Sprint is a joke. Empty promises, bulls**t data signal, premium data charges and hidden charges. There is still NO 4G in Phoenix Arizona, the nations 6th largest city.
Sprint and their reps have been saying 4G was to roll out in August 2010. It's nearly 14 months later and still the same garbage. They just don't get it. I'm close to telling them to piss off and switching back to Verizon.
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Same here in Omaha. A large business city. But they have 4G in KC....I don't get it
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Same here in Omaha. A large business city. But they have 4G in KC....I don't get it
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kc is the major urban area near the sprint world hq in overland park ks. the sprint campus is less than 10 miles from downtown kansas city.
oh, and we do have about 3 times the population of "aromaha". there is that.
MikeyLee said:
Sprint is a joke. Empty promises, bulls**t data signal, premium data charges and hidden charges. There is still NO 4G in Phoenix Arizona, the nations 6th largest city.
Sprint and their reps have been saying 4G was to roll out in August 2010. It's nearly 14 months later and still the same garbage. They just don't get it. I'm close to telling them to piss off and switching back to Verizon.
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That's exactly how I feel I heard 4g to be here in Phoenix in August also!
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It's sad considering Phoenix was one of the first markets to get 3G
I think it is in Sprint's BEST business interests to keep unlimited data since it is their BEST selling feature and sets them apart from AT&T / Verizon .... my humble opinion
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I think it is in Sprint's BEST business interests to keep unlimited data since it is their BEST selling feature and sets them apart from AT&T / Verizon .... my humble opinion
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This
It sets sprint apart. It keeps them unique. It keeps them wanted
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kc is the major urban area near the sprint world hq in overland park ks. the sprint campus is less than 10 miles from downtown kansas city.
oh, and we do have about 3 times the population of "aromaha". there is that.
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Aww, listen to you get all defensive about KC. How cute
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Aww, listen to you get all defensive about KC. How cute
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just sayin.
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Thx god! Sprint is a dirty skank but she sure has the best data package on the block! I refuse to leave this skank for that very reason. On a side note Austin is known to give good jobs aswell. Right buddy?
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Everything I do, I do with pride. Speaking of data packagez, is that a fatty deposit for sustanance on your back, or are you just happy to see me?
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I'm not sure you're missing much with the 4G. We have had it here in Nashville since I got my Epic, and I almost never turn it on because it's so unreliable.
I just activated a new phone on my sero plan, which is supposed to be unlimited data and this is what the terms say now:
3G Usage: Includes 5GB or 2GB of data usage. Add'l data usage $0.05/MB. 3G Usage Limitation: Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred, and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (1) 5GB or 2GB/month in total or (2) 300 MB or 100 MB/month while off-network roaming. 1,024 KB equal 1 MB. 1,024 MB equal 1 GB. 3G Data Usage Limitation does not apply to 4G usage. No plan discounts apply. Other Terms: Coverage not available everywhere. The Sprint 3G network (including roaming) reaches over 272 million people. Offers not available in all markets/retail locations or for all phones/networks. Pricing, offer terms, fees & features may vary for existing customers not eligible for upgrade. Other restrictions apply. See store or Sprint.com for details. © 2011 Sprint. Sprint and the logo are trademarks of Sprint. Android, Google, the Google logo and Android Market are trademarks of Google Inc. Other marks are the property of their respective owners. "
I just got off the phone with a sprint rep, because I was having trouble activating new phone. I asked about the capping, and he said that it's only for data cards. He hasn't heard anything of them limiting phones and there was no plans too. But this is coming from a sprint rep, so take it for what it's worth.
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This
It sets sprint apart. It keeps them unique. It keeps them wanted
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It is Sprint's only competitive edge, given the overall suckage of its network coverage (non-renewal of tower lease agreements), 3g speed drop due to inadequate backhaul support and multitude of broken promises over the past two years re. 4G coverage and speeds. I am on SERO, and as recently as two years ago it was a steal. These days, despite SERO being cheap, I probably get what I pay for - but it feels like less since Sprint used to be better than this on the important fronts. Part of me feels sorry not to have left for VZW when their data plans were still uncapped, but I still hope that Sprint may improve by the beginning of 2012 or I'm done with Sprint after 6+ years, sadly.
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It's sad considering Phoenix was one of the first markets to get 3G
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My 3g here if getting extremely spotty... Check this out, I'm sitting on 107th and camelback!
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I'll tell you what, if they just keep giving out the Airaves free (you use your own internet bandwidth rather than theirs), that's gotta be cheaper than putting up more towers and they can keep offering unlimited data. I'm not complaining anymore. I'm getting 6 bars in my house now with the Airave.
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What would you guys do if this were to happen though?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/sprint-ceo-hints-unlimited-data-could-end-if-usage-gets-crazy/
Sprint CEO hints unlimited data could end if usage gets crazy
By Chris Ziegler posted Sep 22nd 2010 7:45PM
So far, Sprint's been steadfast in its commitment to keeping caps off its data plans -- a big selling point since AT&T's moved to tiered pricing and Verizon has threatened to do the same -- but the laws of supply and demand sadly still exist, and Sprint CEO Dan Hesse knows it. In speaking at the Emerging Technologies Conference at MIT today, Hesse mentioned that his company "can offer unlimited as long as the usage is reasonable," suggesting that a glut of extremely heavy users (you probably know who you are) could ultimately mean he "can't afford to do that anymore." Torrenting off a tethered EVO is fun, yes -- especially when you're on WiMAX -- but just remember: it might ultimately come back to bite you.
Either way it goes there's nothing you can do two choices if the they cap stay or jump ship
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5gb
hey i work at sprint.....5gb cap on sprint now...has been for about 8 months
EDIT: its a 5GB cap on air-cards too FYI..... right now Alltel is the only TRUE unlimited data service (of the carriers in MI), at least until verizon finishes purchasing them, if you have 4g in your area you are fine though, there is currently no cap on 4g.
link
http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/2343/64/
So your saying the unlimited data plan I pay so much for isn't unlimited? What the ****, how do people get away with advertising stuff and it not be true?
Makes me want to run my wifi teher all the time, if only it worked...
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because...
my guess is that it was created more to keep people who use aircards, or even teather, to clog up their bandwith. on a phone that does not run flash it is almost impossible to reach on a phone. just go grab any of the sprint "Plans" pan flits and its right there in the fine print. in 3 months working at a sprint retailer though, i havee never heard of someone passing the cap.
"Get unlimited text and picture messaging, web, gps, and calling to any mobile in America. All for the same price. $69.99."
thats a quote from the ad on my other tab on yahoo mail. notice where the commas are placed. the unlimited stops at the first comma. its sneaky...
There was thing out a while ago on engadget or something a bit ago showing that the moto droid and droid x were the biggest net hoggers out on their market. I do believe they were the first, and most powerful smartphone made avail by vzw that ran android. That being a rumor, and all the android apps that seam to find their way into my 'necessary' list of apps that require data crap with an always on data connection, sprint should have seen this coming from a block or 2 away and was ready to stop before the light changed. we shouldn't be required to have an ATK running to kill the apps that require data, especially since we pay an extra $10 a month nation wide for a service of 4g we don't get. They can afford it according to my bill with evo and no 4g service. I say tell dan to go F himself somewhere he cant get it at a legal brawfel house. or go back to edge 2g service and call it good.
You mean we live in the real world?
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What would you guys do if this were to happen though?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/sprint-ceo-hints-unlimited-data-could-end-if-usage-gets-crazy/
Sprint CEO hints unlimited data could end if usage gets crazy
By Chris Ziegler posted Sep 22nd 2010 7:45PM
So far, Sprint's been steadfast in its commitment to keeping caps off its data plans -- a big selling point since AT&T's moved to tiered pricing and Verizon has threatened to do the same -- but the laws of supply and demand sadly still exist, and Sprint CEO Dan Hesse knows it. In speaking at the Emerging Technologies Conference at MIT today, Hesse mentioned that his company "can offer unlimited as long as the usage is reasonable," suggesting that a glut of extremely heavy users (you probably know who you are) could ultimately mean he "can't afford to do that anymore." Torrenting off a tethered EVO is fun, yes -- especially when you're on WiMAX -- but just remember: it might ultimately come back to bite you.
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Why is this so hard for everyone to understand? Sprint screws everyone the least amongst the big american carriers. Its no mystery that all carriers can only support a finite number of users. Couple that reality with the economic one, and here we are. Of course if things were better and sprint was highly profitable they could expand their data service to capacitate the heavy usage, but thats just not the case is it? To me this article isn't a threat but merely a reality. If that comes to pass and our seemingly endless data usage days are over, I will just switch to a cheaper carrier.
Drop plan prices or upgrade infrastructure. Or just screw all of us. That's what I am reading.
I have an air card that doesn't have a cap from Sprint. It's one of the reasons I still have it and haven't moved up to WiMax...once I go to 4G, the 3G has a 5GB cap (and since 4G isn't everywhere...and there's holes here in Houston...I don't want to be capped at 5GB/mo if I need it).
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hey i work at sprint.....5gb cap on sprint now...has been for about 8 months
EDIT: its a 5GB cap on air-cards too FYI..... right now Alltel is the only TRUE unlimited data service (of the carriers in MI), at least until verizon finishes purchasing them, if you have 4g in your area you are fine though, there is currently no cap on 4g.
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Either way it goes there's nothing you can do two choices if the they cap stay or jump ship
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i hope they do this so i can jump ship to verizon and get a droid2. any changes to your plan by them means you can get out of your contract for free.
Commas won't save you.
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my guess is that it was created more to keep people who use aircards, or even teather, to clog up their bandwith. on a phone that does not run flash it is almost impossible to reach on a phone. just go grab any of the sprint "Plans" pan flits and its right there in the fine print. in 3 months working at a sprint retailer though, i havee never heard of someone passing the cap.
"Get unlimited text and picture messaging, web, gps, and calling to any mobile in America. All for the same price. $69.99."
thats a quote from the ad on my other tab on yahoo mail. notice where the commas are placed. the unlimited stops at the first comma. its sneaky...
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I get the syntactic trickery above, but when I check my usage on the Sprint website it says "250,000 / Unlimited" in the data category in the same format that they state I've used "40 / 1500" of the minutes they make me buy. How are they gonna dance around that one? (not that I'm at all worried about going over 5Gb, its just galling to see so many companies offer "unlimited" service that they don't deliver.)
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I have an air card that doesn't have a cap from Sprint. It's one of the reasons I still have it and haven't moved up to WiMax...once I go to 4G, the 3G has a 5GB cap (and since 4G isn't everywhere...and there's holes here in Houston...I don't want to be capped at 5GB/mo if I need it).
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you must be grandfathered in....
fixxxer2008 said:
i hope they do this so i can jump ship to verizon and get a droid2. any changes to your plan by them means you can get out of your contract for free.
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if they change the plan structure it will more than likely be for new customers, you would probably get to keep your current plan and pricing until you change your plan. i see people coming into my store with old nextel plans that are paying like 50.00 for like 300 min, and no texting or data...
The everything 3g plans have had limit for a while now, the 4g $10 fee gets u unlimited 2, 3, and 4g data
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How much data are people really using? I'd like to see figures.
I can't imagine that everyone is tethering and sharing connections with entire coffee houses.
I consider myself a fairly moderate data user. Some web browsing, more than a few SMS messages and lots and lots of hours on end of audio streaming. I've used just barely 10% of my allowed 5Gb this month and the month only has a few days left.
What could anyone be doing that is using so much data that would prompt thinking about blowing out the unlimited data plan?
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i hope they do this so i can jump ship to verizon and get a droid2. any changes to your plan by them means you can get out of your contract for free.
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if they change the plan structure it will more than likely be for new customers, you would probably get to keep your current plan and pricing until you change your plan. i see people coming into my store with old nextel plans that are paying like 50.00 for like 300 min, and no texting or data...
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I...I think I may be dumber for having read yor siggy. Yep IQ dropping like a rock the longer I.....gah! *lumbers off to drool quietly in the corner*
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i posted this in the HD7 forum, figured it applies here as well...and yes, it still sucks !
http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/20/atandt-agrees-to-buy-t-mobile-from-deutsche-telekom/
Son of a....
Ugh...
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Great, here comes wfi tethering fees, smartphone crackdowns and data caps.
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dani3l said:
Great, here comes wfi tethering fees, smartphone crackdowns and data caps.
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Tell Me About It. -_-
When I signed my contract with T-Mobile I already figured tbey would be getting bought out befor my contract was up. I just didn't know who would buy them out. I just bope the transition goes smoothly and that and T-Mobile customers that have unlimited data plans get to keep the unlimited data plans. I can not live with a 2GB cap.
It makes major since for att. after all in the usa this would totally kill any reasons for an unlock for smartphones or the iphone, since there would be no other carrier.
This means, higher prices, lower data caps, higher fees, and lower customer service.
att + tmobile = verizon, but with out the unlimited internet.
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...att + tmobile = verizon, but with out the unlimited internet.
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I think you might be wrong there.
You see the network will now be lets say 2xStronger that it is now. meaning, unlimited data usage might come back, since the network will now be able to handle the load.
Example, lets say Dallas, Texas. again this is just a example. it has lets say 5 AT&T towers and 7 T-mobile towers. since both companies will be having the same spectrum for voice and data, there will be 12 towers supplying the necessary amount of voice and data.
This only makes a stronger network. download speeds speeds will be out the roof, and unlimited might come back since there will a stringer network to back it up, if it doesn't, maybe larger data caps instead of the typical 2Gbs, 4 or 6GB.\
BTW, if you have unlimited ATM im sure you will be grandfathered into unlimited.
Fair Warning AT&T, I refuse to do business with you. Come the first quarter of 2012 I will switch to Verizon.
i find it funny how verizon gets an iphone, att reacts by buying a whole network. LOL
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I think you might be wrong there.
You see the network will now be lets say 2xStronger that it is now. meaning, unlimited data usage might come back, since the network will now be able to handle the load.
Example, lets say Dallas, Texas. again this is just a example. it has lets say 5 AT&T towers and 7 T-mobile towers. since both companies will be having the same spectrum for voice and data, there will be 12 towers supplying the necessary amount of voice and data.
This only makes a stronger network. download speeds speeds will be out the roof, and unlimited might come back since there will a stringer network to back it up, if it doesn't, maybe larger data caps instead of the typical 2Gbs, 4 or 6GB.\
BTW, if you have unlimited ATM im sure you will be grandfathered into unlimited.
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No, you won't get unlimited data usage back, you won't get larger data caps, you only get monopoly.
sal2708 said:
I think you might be wrong there.
You see the network will now be lets say 2xStronger that it is now. meaning, unlimited data usage might come back, since the network will now be able to handle the load.
Example, lets say Dallas, Texas. again this is just a example. it has lets say 5 AT&T towers and 7 T-mobile towers. since both companies will be having the same spectrum for voice and data, there will be 12 towers supplying the necessary amount of voice and data.
This only makes a stronger network. download speeds speeds will be out the roof, and unlimited might come back since there will a stringer network to back it up, if it doesn't, maybe larger data caps instead of the typical 2Gbs, 4 or 6GB.\
BTW, if you have unlimited ATM im sure you will be grandfathered into unlimited.
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AT&T currently have their capped plans, and T-Mobile was suffering from limited spectrum. All that they're doing is combining customers. Sure, the network will be larger, but they're bringing in all the T-mobile customers, too.
Silver Lining
A merger like this will take forever. We won't see any change for at least 12 months. And you know Verizon won't take it lying down.
Hmm, maybe the gov't will break up AT&T again. Hell it's only been 30 yrs since the last time they did it. And we all know what happened to that...
But for us HD2 users on AT&T...how will AT&T handle TMo's 3G network? They would have to allow backward compatibility. Which means all frequencies work on AT&T. Which means 3G on HD2 running on AT&T. Makes illogical sense, just like AT&T buying TMo.
Ahh one can dream.
Yeah, when I read this earlier I was disappointed. I left at&t for a variety of reasons, mainly because of data caps & horrible customer service. I will never go Verizon, so it looks like I'm headed to Sprint as soon as my T-mo contract is up!
Also I don't think this will benefit T-Mobile users, as at&t will be flooding our towers & slowing things down for us. But it will take around 9 months before we notice those things and about a year before it's final.
But I will NOT be signing back on with T-Mobile/at&t.
If this effects my 5.99 t-zones unlimited internet I will be pissed as hell
i for one would rather use a tin can string before i go back to at&t, even if they offer me a comparable android phone in exchange for my hd2. Shame that the best phone i've ever had will soon lose 3g capability.
sal2708 said:
I think you might be wrong there.
You see the network will now be lets say 2xStronger that it is now. meaning, unlimited data usage might come back, since the network will now be able to handle the load.
Example, lets say Dallas, Texas. again this is just a example. it has lets say 5 AT&T towers and 7 T-mobile towers. since both companies will be having the same spectrum for voice and data, there will be 12 towers supplying the necessary amount of voice and data.
This only makes a stronger network. download speeds speeds will be out the roof, and unlimited might come back since there will a stringer network to back it up, if it doesn't, maybe larger data caps instead of the typical 2Gbs, 4 or 6GB.\
BTW, if you have unlimited ATM im sure you will be grandfathered into unlimited.
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man i wish i had your optimistic outlook on things. I think it would be more likely for ATT to keep current caps in place in order to allow future subscribership growth without investing money on infrastructure.
It's f*#king Ma Bell, back from the damned grave. Go back you old hag.
I'm actually happy for this! Why? In my country, TMo sucks big time. No reception anywhere, and 3g only on 2/3 cities. So, by uniting at&t and t-mobile, we'll of course have better reception and more than 2g everywhere. I am actually excited by this. Best phones+best reception=win. And yeah, i know the prices, but that could change. What is sure is that we'll have the best phones and the best reception. So it's just a matter of time and patience.
i really dont know why everyone is *****ing. for those of you on T-Mobile everything will stay the same. only thing that will be diffent will be your bill and the network name on your phone. becuase you all will be grandfathred into whatever plans you all have. if at all it will be better for all us since there will be a bigger & faster network.
At&t's acquisition of Tmobile may very well be one of the best things that ever hapened to sprint, leaving only one low priced nation wide carrier in the country. I predict that millions of former tmobile customers will have no where else to go but Sprint. Anyone disagree / agree with my prerediction? (excuae poor writing skills)
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What should Sprint do with Clearwire?
I dont havea clue. As I understand it, Sprint has plans of using its 800mhz spectrum for future 4g service. I don't know what they could possibly do with Clear's 2.5 GHZ spectrum.
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What should Sprint do with Clearwire?
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lol there goes the idea of sprint buying tmo....
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lol there goes the idea of sprint buying tmo....
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If Sprint bought T-Mobile I think it would hurt them ore than it would help.
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If Sprint bought T-Mobile I think it would hurt them ore than it would help.
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Sprint is worth about $267.64, T-Mobile is more than they can afford pal.
If this merger goes anything like the AT&T/Cingular merger the combined new company is bound to lose a ton of subscribers. That merger was a clusterfudge and a half and is the reason I'm a Sprint customer now.
I was a cingular customer during that time i didnt notice anything
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If I had a good chunck of money lying around I'd invest in Sprint as they have big plans for the future. Restating what someone above already said, AT&T aquiring T-Mobile is just going ot increase Sprint's number of subscribers, paired with their rumored and "unofficial confirmed?" lol if that makes sense - decision to move to LTE and finally topped with next weeks CTIA event where some REAL nice phones / tablets are expected to drop - Sprint is in for a subscriber boost. I'm on Sprint right now with my Epic 4G and had plans to possibly switch to t-mobile or At&t but now that At&t is buying Tmobile and will probably eliminate all Unlimited plans and sprint will get some actually nice phones that don't have a keyboard - I am definitely going to be sticking around! Oh and besides all that I just moved to West hills and now I have beautiful 4G coverage ALL through my house with 5 -7 Mbps down and 1 - 2 Mbps up So I'm one happy camper and its all about to get better when I upgrade the day Sprint releases their new phones to the public! Man waiting really pays off!
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You are amongthe select who has 4g
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Agree. Sprint should benefit in economy theory.
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I was a cingular customer during that time i didnt notice anything
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Wow, you're quite lucky - or maybe I just wasn't so lucky. They screwed me around quite badly. I'm not going to turn this into a flame AT&T thread, but generally speaking I was with AT&T since the analog days and they made it impossible for me to continue to use them as a direct result of that merger. Took my 3 lines to Sprint and never looked back. Best wishes to any happy T-mobile users out there who are going to be converted if the feds approve this.
all I got was a bill with AT&T instead lol
I came to sprint because it was cheaper.
still true now
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all I got was a bill with AT&T instead lol
I came to sprint because it was cheaper.
still true now
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Sorry, I have to rant here for a minute...
1st, I had just bought a new phone on the AT&T blue side. When they wanted to migrate me to the "orange" billing system because I wanted to up my minutes they told me I'd have to buy another new phone and I wasn't eligible for an upgrade. I wound up unlocking my phone myself and using the orange sim in it anyway.
Also, at the time I had 3 phone lines in 2 different area codes. They told me the new billing system wouldn't let me do that and I had to change a phone number that I had with them for several years. I ended up having to split the one line off onto its own account which cost quite a bit more per month but had no choice at the time and was generally happy with my coverage and equipment otherwise.
I also regularly dialed international long distance @ 85 cents/minute which equated to several hundred dollars a month (over $700 one month) which I always paid on time and with a smile. Shortly after they migrated my account I had an emergency while traveling and desperately needed to dial international which I was no longer able to do. I called AT&T post haste and they told me "We're sorry, since you've been a customer less than 90 days we cannot permit you to dial internationally". I explained the situation that since migrating to the new billing system I had a new account number and provided my old account number for them to verify. They claimed there was nothing they could do and I could appeal to a manager which would take 7-10 business days. I wound up talking to a complete stranger about my situation who let me use his landline. We had no idea what it would cost him to dial international from his line, so I gave him $50 which he refused but I insisted he take it. I moved carriers within days of that ordeal.
Thats just no way to treat an 8 year loyal, multi-line, international dialing customer dealing with a life and death situation. Money was never the issue, terrible customer relations was. Thats why I want to wish all those poor TMO users good luck - I hope they don't have the same experience.
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At&t's acquisition of Tmobile may very well be one of the best things that ever hapened to sprint, leaving only one low priced nation wide carrier in the country. I predict that millions of former tmobile customers will have no where else to go but Sprint. Anyone disagree / agree with my prerediction? (excuae poor writing skills)
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great 4 sprint but this is BAD 4 us, y. cause there would be NOTHING to stop sprint from RAISING their rates or eliminating the unlimited plan. at&t would be the only GSM cell company in the US. in a way it would be a MONOPOLY! out of the 4 top carriers, sprint was the cheapest followed by t-mobile. FCC NEEDS 2 SQUASH THIS DEAL! unless metro pcs gets more towers, mark my words WE WILL SUFFER!
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great 4 sprint but this is BAD 4 us, y. cause there would be NOTHING to stop sprint from RAISING their rates or eliminating the unlimited plan. at&t would be the only GSM cell company in the US. in a way it would be a MONOPOLY! out of the 4 top carriers, sprint was the cheapest followed by t-mobile. FCC NEEDS 2 SQUASH THIS DEAL! unless metro pcs gets more towers, mark my words WE WILL SUFFER!
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Agreed. AT&T is going to screw everybody. Look what they are already doing to T-Mobile Girl.
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Looks like it may be time to buy some Sprint stock.
EDIT: LOL It went down 16% today.
Well I got my brand-new Samsung galaxy S3 (off contract) and I’ve been playing around the last couple of weeks streaming video and whatnot and to my surprise I get the dreaded text message from AT&T stating that I just got throttled. This is the first-time and I am PISSED!! I am SURE this has been covered before but it’s the first time for me. I had no idea exactly how much they throttled you by until now. I mean you can’t do anything once they tightened the noose. I am grandfathered in with an unlimited LTE plan also which really makes it that much more irritating. Well I guess I need to download that app that finds free hotspots. I am in the San Antonio Texas area and we have good mobile data coverage down here so I have to wonder if there are any providers offering a truly unlimited non-throttled or less throttled 4g (of some kind) data plan. I know that Sprint is just getting their LTE service fired up and they are offering an unlimited plan in my area and technically I am not under contract right now which I made abundantly clear to the AT&T employee that I was speaking with (ranting to) like she cared. Does Sprint pull the same crap that AT&T does? Do I have any options? Thanks in advance.
Sprint just deployed their LTE recently and I've seen data speeds around 30+ MB/s reported by users in Texas
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We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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I'm a moron. Nm.
When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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LTE? How are speeds?
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When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Lucky. Tmo goes to edge which is Max .08mbps
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We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB
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Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB
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Good god, may I ask what you use all that data doing? I'm getting 10mbs on sprint.
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To answer you question there are no gimmicks with Sprint when it comes to unlimited data. There plans really are unlimited and I live in Atlanta where my 4gLTE just activated and I am very pleased with the speeds. I'm loving Sprint right now.
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Since the 5th, I've switched to Sprint. Coverage blows in stl, but blown past my 2gb cap I had with att and living that so far. Some coverage and I will be set!
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If I had lte on sprint I'd be all over it. But 3g by me is horrible and no service whatsoever at my house really kills it. So I recently switched to att where my coverage is awesome and my 3g is easily 8x faster on average. If lte on sprint ever comes to my area I will certainly reconsider my choice. Until then ill live with my 5gb att cap.
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5. something gbs........ throttled
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I live in Jefferson City, MO and we aren't slated for LTE until later this year.
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The only reason Sprint has been able to offer truely unlimited plans is because the speeds were just too slow to generate any meaningful volume. With LTE now, they will be in the same position (likely worse equipped) once volume increases across the network. Enjoy it while it lasts. I certainly wouldn't be jumping ship having unlimited (5g) with ATT in hand to have fully unlimited data for a year or so.
Sprint doesn't cut you off or anything when it comes to data usage (unless you're roaming.) Go to 500 gb a month if you'd like.
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5. something gbs........ throttled
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Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds
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Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds
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as it should be... its 4g
I don't know why people are so up in arms about this stuff. Most carriers are going to tiered data.... it's the way it is and nothing's changing that. It's already been in the rumor mill based on some things done/said by sprint that they too, will be going to throttled/tiered methods to controlling data. I don't know about you guys, but I know that ever since tethering became very popular, TONS of people have been trying to use their mobile data connections as primary internet sources. While it's all fine and dandy that you feel that you should use your data how you want, the networks (and when I say networks, i mean ALL of them) are not yet ready to support everybody's daily habits and still be strong enough to support the current flow of telephone calls or data calls.
When that day comes, by all means, have the carriers put out unlimited data plans and have your telephone be your primary internet connection, but until that day when the networks are strong enough to support it, I still want to be able to make phone calls if need be, especially in an emergency.
By having service, it doesn't give anybody the right to unlimited data, or if they do have it, to use it however they wish. There are still terms and conditions with each company. I know it's not something that everybody likes, but it's the way life is. I am personally pretty glad that the carriers are approaching it this way, because in my area, I see first hand how tethering on smart phones can easily cripple networks at this current time.
I'll give you all an example. I work in a town of 45,000 people, with a "metropolitan" style town surrounding with a grand total of like 80,000 people. That's not a whole lot, which means there's not a ****load of towers here to support our mobile data/calling habits. The thing is, we're in Wisconsin, and there's a lot of places in Wisconsin that you can now get 3G service but can't even get Satellite internet service more than 700kbps. 3G service in those areas average 1-2 megs of service. HSPA/HSPA+ service in some of those areas range from 3-9megs of service. With a cost of $30-80 for sat. service, it's obvious what people would rather use for their internet. If even a 3rd of those 80,000 people started using their phones as primary internet connections, our network would quickly become stressed.
It's becoming more and more obvious to me every day too, that people are wanting to use their phone as a primary internet connection because they can't get land line service or want to save money on a more frequent basis. At least once or twice a day I get a customer coming in and asking us about our mobile internet service because they want to get rid of their land lines to save money, consolidate bills, or can't get land lines at home.
With the rate of how many people are now getting their hands on phones that are capable of tethering, that could very quickly change the work load of the towers on ANY network, be it sprint, at&t, tmo, verizon etc etc.... and it's not going to be for the better.... for now.
I guess the moral of the story is, as a person who still utilizes land line services as his primary source of internet (especially for streaming content/downloading content), I would love to have the cell phone towers I utilize still be able to support my telephone calls, instead of straining to support everybody's netflix addictions. Until the networks are built to support that kind of stuff, I can't say I disapprove of the way things are going on the carriers. Nobody's entitled to anything when it comes to service, and that being said, is what gives freedom of choice when it comes to your carrier choice. Just keep in mind that Sprint is looking more and more likely to follow suit with the tiered/throttled plans... seeing as they've already done it (according to articles, don't know if it's actually implemented) on their hotspot devices. If it's true, and has happened, It's not long till they do it to their smartphones, since every single one is ALSO a hotspot device.
*rant over*
P.S. This post is not meant to directly flame, offend, or belittle anyone for their habits. Everybody is different and has their own opinions, so keep in mind that this is MY opinion and the way I feel. Please keep your responses to it civil, because if they turn childish and mean hearted, i'll make sure the mods know and maybe close it because there's no need for that.
Don't you think thats the best choice for big data users?
Yes, its un throttled, and many major markets are getting LTE by April 2013.
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i have sprint and want out. 3g is more like whatever is slower than 1x and unless you're in a major market in first lte rollout you won't have it for quite a while, making you stuck on 3g. Wimax hasn't supported many areas and the rollout was slow. research before committing
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Wimax is very strong in Chicago too...
i have sprint and am leaving as well. thinking about the note 2 on tmobile but really want an exynos 5250 phone so we'll see if i can hold out till the gs4. either way i'm done with sprint and their crappy network.
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Wimax is very strobg in Chicago too...
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I'm on sprint, I have the og epic 4g, wimax was really slow until the devs here figured the epics radio was buggy thanks to samsung. Now I can flash the Nexus modem on to my phone and wimax is amazing, way faster than before and pretty consistent. The evo LTE is having the same problem with their radio right now I believe. Anyways for heavy data users Sprint is great, but it really depends on where you live, figure out what's best for you because crappy data speeds are about as good as throttled data speeds. I hope Samsung does a good job on the note 2 modem.
My experience with Sprint was great till recently. Speeds are horrible and I've had to call twice in two weeks about texts not going through. My wife isn't receiving calls on her Epic Touch. I would seriously reconsider your decision. We will be headed to At&t asap and I plan on picking up a Note 2.
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Don't you think thats the best choice for big data users?
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Sprint's data speeds really suck, especially inside buildings.
You might want to get a hotspot and test it out for a month.
Go around the areas you frequent and run speed tests.
Or buy a cheapo Sprint phone off CL and get a month of service. This way you can use it for as long as you wish and then cancel if you don't like the service since you aren't in a contract.
I have yet to ever meet someone who's uttered the phrase, "I'm satisfied with Sprint." Their service problems go back at least 12 years because that's when I used to sell phones with Sprint being one of the carriers.
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I have yet to ever meet someone who's uttered the phrase, "I'm satisfied with Sprint." Their service problems go back at least 12 years because that's when I used to sell phones with Sprint being one of the carriers.
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Welp, maybe we're not meeting in person, but consider this a virtual introduction.
It just so happens I've been with Sprint for the last twelve years & I'm satisfied with Sprint. I'll even go as far as to say, I've had the best experience with Sprint of any carrier. Good quality cellular & data service, customer service has been impressive, & pound for pound, none of the big dogs can beat their pricing (at least not yet). I've had both Verizon & AT&T. Can't speak for T-Mobile, but I'm still with Sprint after 12 years.
And I may be out of line in saying this, but I'm guessing not too many folks go to the retailer specifically just to tell them how great & satisfied they've been with their service or provider, regardless of carrier. Unless they're renewing or accessorizing, they're there because they have a problem with their phone or with the service, with their bill, or with their current carrier/provider & they are looking to switch.
Edit: Sorry OP. To address your question, if I haven't already made it obvious, I do think Sprint is the best choice.
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Welp, maybe we're not meeting in person, but consider this a virtual introduction.
It just so happens I've been with Sprint for the last twelve years & I'm satisfied with Sprint. I'll even go as far as to say, I've had the best experience with Sprint of any carrier. Good quality cellular & data service, customer service has been impressive, & pound for pound, none of the big dogs can beat their pricing (at least not yet). I've had both Verizon & AT&T. Can't speak for T-Mobile, but I'm still with Sprint after 12 years.
And I may be out of line in saying this, but I'm guessing not too many folks go to the retailer specifically just to tell them how great & satisfied they've been with their service or provider, regardless of carrier. Unless they're renewing or accessorizing, they're there because they have a problem with their phone or with the service, with their bill, or with their current carrier/provider & they are looking to switch.
Edit: Sorry OP. To address your question, if I haven't already made it obvious, I do think Sprint is the best choice.
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+1 to this from me. 10 years with Sprint. True unlimited data FTW!**
**unless you're planning to use BitTorrent on it...then they boot you.
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Don't know about U guys but unlimited data feature of sprint is HUGE to me. Right now I have a sprint MiFi and am really ALWAYS satisfied with data speeds....5-9mbps which is fine with me.
Believe me if I had to spend one minute on their 3G I'd bolt.
I have $35mo unlimited data on their MiFi.
Right now while waiting for SGN2 to drop I'm also on prepaid TMobile $30mo 100min talk unlimited data unlinited text.
Sprint is amazing and has some of the best customer service I've ever experienced.
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Sprint's data speeds really suck, especially inside buildings.
You might want to get a hotspot and test it out for a month.
Go around the areas you frequent and run speed tests.
Or buy a cheapo Sprint phone off CL and get a month of service. This way you can use it for as long as you wish and then cancel if you don't like the service since you aren't in a contract.
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Listen to this guy. Seen replies where sprint can be great or plainly suck ass. Seemms it's location dependent so listen to this guy!
I've had Sprint for about 8 years and I can't stand it.
3G data is miserable. They are going with 1900Mhz LTE network, bad building penetration as opposed to Verizon's 900Mhz. . I'm probably going to Verizon, they rock in Los Angeles. Yes, I'm going to deal with the Devil.
I only pay about $50+tax for the SERO plan, if I switch I will end up paying twice as much for similar plan. SERO is like 500mins, unlimited text and data. I read on my bill it said unlimited data roaming also, but I never have tried that. Still it's too cheap to switch over for me.
UTStarcom probably the absolute worst time to compare sprint with the network upgrades taking place. Living in an area that is nearing halfway completion I can tell you yeah,it's long over due (though they are less then a year behind att's start to their still ongoing lte rollout)
Currently I have both Sprint and Att phones.
Call quality for me in Dallas is awesome...and let is comparable if not faster.
We still have the same issues we have always had on att...and speeds slowing compared to when lte went live in Dallas last October
Both have made huge customer service improvements and both are actively working on their network
That being said...check s4g4u.com for speculated upgrade schedule, compare prices w/usage habbits and make a decision.
For me...the unlimited data is a no brainer...but I live in a strong sprint market
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i have sprint and want out. 3g is more like whatever is slower than 1x and unless you're in a major market in first lte rollout you won't have it for quite a while, making you stuck on 3g. Wimax hasn't supported many areas and the rollout was slow. research before committing
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morphiend said:
i have sprint and am leaving as well. thinking about the note 2 on tmobile but really want an exynos 5250 phone so we'll see if i can hold out till the gs4. either way i'm done with sprint and their crappy network.
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i agree with you guys. just got done talking to tmobile. i think ill get the galaxy note 2 with them. idc that its only hspa+ 42mbps, that holds its own with the lte networks now anyway. plus, theyll cheaper than what i pay sprint
Just check your local area, graba phone from both and prepaay to test it out.
I hate ATT, because I pay 160 a month for 2 phones, and could be paying 100 with someone else.
Sprint sucks. I've been with all 4 major carriers. For where I live in my state I'd put it in this order.
1. Verizon Wireless
2. T-Mobile (Now true unlimited, NO throttling)
3. at&t (A lot of dropped calls)
4. Prepaid carriers
5. Sprint (Unusable data speeds) and I had wimax with them, it wasn't impressive, maybe 1mb download speeds, for 4G that sucks. I would get some of my texts and calls really late. Like a day or two later. I was like wtf? This voicemail was from 3 days ago? I will never go back to Sprint.