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Sprint CEO hints unlimited data could end if usage gets crazy

What would you guys do if this were to happen though?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/sprint-ceo-hints-unlimited-data-could-end-if-usage-gets-crazy/
Sprint CEO hints unlimited data could end if usage gets crazy
By Chris Ziegler posted Sep 22nd 2010 7:45PM
So far, Sprint's been steadfast in its commitment to keeping caps off its data plans -- a big selling point since AT&T's moved to tiered pricing and Verizon has threatened to do the same -- but the laws of supply and demand sadly still exist, and Sprint CEO Dan Hesse knows it. In speaking at the Emerging Technologies Conference at MIT today, Hesse mentioned that his company "can offer unlimited as long as the usage is reasonable," suggesting that a glut of extremely heavy users (you probably know who you are) could ultimately mean he "can't afford to do that anymore." Torrenting off a tethered EVO is fun, yes -- especially when you're on WiMAX -- but just remember: it might ultimately come back to bite you.

Either way it goes there's nothing you can do two choices if the they cap stay or jump ship
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5gb
hey i work at sprint.....5gb cap on sprint now...has been for about 8 months
EDIT: its a 5GB cap on air-cards too FYI..... right now Alltel is the only TRUE unlimited data service (of the carriers in MI), at least until verizon finishes purchasing them, if you have 4g in your area you are fine though, there is currently no cap on 4g.

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http://www.evdoinfo.com/content/view/2343/64/

So your saying the unlimited data plan I pay so much for isn't unlimited? What the ****, how do people get away with advertising stuff and it not be true?
Makes me want to run my wifi teher all the time, if only it worked...
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because...
my guess is that it was created more to keep people who use aircards, or even teather, to clog up their bandwith. on a phone that does not run flash it is almost impossible to reach on a phone. just go grab any of the sprint "Plans" pan flits and its right there in the fine print. in 3 months working at a sprint retailer though, i havee never heard of someone passing the cap.
"Get unlimited text and picture messaging, web, gps, and calling to any mobile in America. All for the same price. $69.99."
thats a quote from the ad on my other tab on yahoo mail. notice where the commas are placed. the unlimited stops at the first comma. its sneaky...

There was thing out a while ago on engadget or something a bit ago showing that the moto droid and droid x were the biggest net hoggers out on their market. I do believe they were the first, and most powerful smartphone made avail by vzw that ran android. That being a rumor, and all the android apps that seam to find their way into my 'necessary' list of apps that require data crap with an always on data connection, sprint should have seen this coming from a block or 2 away and was ready to stop before the light changed. we shouldn't be required to have an ATK running to kill the apps that require data, especially since we pay an extra $10 a month nation wide for a service of 4g we don't get. They can afford it according to my bill with evo and no 4g service. I say tell dan to go F himself somewhere he cant get it at a legal brawfel house. or go back to edge 2g service and call it good.

You mean we live in the real world?
someonenewhere said:
What would you guys do if this were to happen though?
http://www.engadget.com/2010/09/22/sprint-ceo-hints-unlimited-data-could-end-if-usage-gets-crazy/
Sprint CEO hints unlimited data could end if usage gets crazy
By Chris Ziegler posted Sep 22nd 2010 7:45PM
So far, Sprint's been steadfast in its commitment to keeping caps off its data plans -- a big selling point since AT&T's moved to tiered pricing and Verizon has threatened to do the same -- but the laws of supply and demand sadly still exist, and Sprint CEO Dan Hesse knows it. In speaking at the Emerging Technologies Conference at MIT today, Hesse mentioned that his company "can offer unlimited as long as the usage is reasonable," suggesting that a glut of extremely heavy users (you probably know who you are) could ultimately mean he "can't afford to do that anymore." Torrenting off a tethered EVO is fun, yes -- especially when you're on WiMAX -- but just remember: it might ultimately come back to bite you.
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Why is this so hard for everyone to understand? Sprint screws everyone the least amongst the big american carriers. Its no mystery that all carriers can only support a finite number of users. Couple that reality with the economic one, and here we are. Of course if things were better and sprint was highly profitable they could expand their data service to capacitate the heavy usage, but thats just not the case is it? To me this article isn't a threat but merely a reality. If that comes to pass and our seemingly endless data usage days are over, I will just switch to a cheaper carrier.

Drop plan prices or upgrade infrastructure. Or just screw all of us. That's what I am reading.

I have an air card that doesn't have a cap from Sprint. It's one of the reasons I still have it and haven't moved up to WiMax...once I go to 4G, the 3G has a 5GB cap (and since 4G isn't everywhere...and there's holes here in Houston...I don't want to be capped at 5GB/mo if I need it).
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hey i work at sprint.....5gb cap on sprint now...has been for about 8 months
EDIT: its a 5GB cap on air-cards too FYI..... right now Alltel is the only TRUE unlimited data service (of the carriers in MI), at least until verizon finishes purchasing them, if you have 4g in your area you are fine though, there is currently no cap on 4g.
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laie1472 said:
Either way it goes there's nothing you can do two choices if the they cap stay or jump ship
Root-Hack-Mod-Always™
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i hope they do this so i can jump ship to verizon and get a droid2. any changes to your plan by them means you can get out of your contract for free.

Commas won't save you.
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my guess is that it was created more to keep people who use aircards, or even teather, to clog up their bandwith. on a phone that does not run flash it is almost impossible to reach on a phone. just go grab any of the sprint "Plans" pan flits and its right there in the fine print. in 3 months working at a sprint retailer though, i havee never heard of someone passing the cap.
"Get unlimited text and picture messaging, web, gps, and calling to any mobile in America. All for the same price. $69.99."
thats a quote from the ad on my other tab on yahoo mail. notice where the commas are placed. the unlimited stops at the first comma. its sneaky...
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I get the syntactic trickery above, but when I check my usage on the Sprint website it says "250,000 / Unlimited" in the data category in the same format that they state I've used "40 / 1500" of the minutes they make me buy. How are they gonna dance around that one? (not that I'm at all worried about going over 5Gb, its just galling to see so many companies offer "unlimited" service that they don't deliver.)

tkirton said:
I have an air card that doesn't have a cap from Sprint. It's one of the reasons I still have it and haven't moved up to WiMax...once I go to 4G, the 3G has a 5GB cap (and since 4G isn't everywhere...and there's holes here in Houston...I don't want to be capped at 5GB/mo if I need it).
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you must be grandfathered in....

fixxxer2008 said:
i hope they do this so i can jump ship to verizon and get a droid2. any changes to your plan by them means you can get out of your contract for free.
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if they change the plan structure it will more than likely be for new customers, you would probably get to keep your current plan and pricing until you change your plan. i see people coming into my store with old nextel plans that are paying like 50.00 for like 300 min, and no texting or data...

The everything 3g plans have had limit for a while now, the 4g $10 fee gets u unlimited 2, 3, and 4g data
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How much data are people really using? I'd like to see figures.
I can't imagine that everyone is tethering and sharing connections with entire coffee houses.
I consider myself a fairly moderate data user. Some web browsing, more than a few SMS messages and lots and lots of hours on end of audio streaming. I've used just barely 10% of my allowed 5Gb this month and the month only has a few days left.
What could anyone be doing that is using so much data that would prompt thinking about blowing out the unlimited data plan?

fixxxer2008 said:
i hope they do this so i can jump ship to verizon and get a droid2. any changes to your plan by them means you can get out of your contract for free.
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if they change the plan structure it will more than likely be for new customers, you would probably get to keep your current plan and pricing until you change your plan. i see people coming into my store with old nextel plans that are paying like 50.00 for like 300 min, and no texting or data...
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I...I think I may be dumber for having read yor siggy. Yep IQ dropping like a rock the longer I.....gah! *lumbers off to drool quietly in the corner*

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Walmart/T-Mobile Prepaid $30/mo "Unlimited" 4G Plan + Unlimited Text/100 Minutes

Walmart/T-Mobile Prepaid $30/mo "Unlimited" 4G Plan + Unlimited Text/100 Minutes
Who is getting this epically awesome plan?
I am!
I felt the need to spread the word.
http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/articles/walmart-and-t-mobile-introduce-exclusive-no-annual-contract-4g-offering

Not even close to suitable for my needs.
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Hmm yeah I suppose if you need a TON of data, you are better off elsewhere...but for people who want to stick with a GSM carrier, there's nothing better right now!
I'm not sure I could ever give up switching phones as I please.

Be ware....It's not prepaid. If you run out of minutes they charge you like 90 dollars. Read the fine print. I had 30 dollars worth of data left I didn't even use switched to tmobile thinking prepaid is prepaid and they sent me a bill for 90 cancelation fee. Didn't even use my 30 worth of paid for data

No, it's NOT just TONS of Data. It's also minutes. 100 minutes? Yeah, I don't think so. This plan isn't that great. If it meets your needs fine, but don't go talking down to others JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T AGREE WITH YOU.
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Whoa, not sure where all the hate is coming from. I suppose I misunderstood you and certainly was not talking down to you. So I apologize.
Anyway, my plan is to use Google Voice or sipdroid since the minutes are capped to only 100. I just wanted to make people aware of the opportunity.
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styndall said:
Whoa, not sure where all the hate is coming from. I suppose I misunderstood you and certainly was not talking down to you. So I apologize.
Anyway, my plan is to use Google Voice or sipdroid since the minutes are capped to only 100. I just wanted to make people aware of the opportunity.
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There's no hate. Your post about TONS OF DATA was condescending.
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I can tell you that I am going to jump on this Sunday.
It is perfect for the 3G GSM cellular modem in my laptop.
I am sick of not having internet access in some places and as I won't ever be using voice or giving out that number it is just perfect and a deal!
Plus no f---ing contract.

Can someone confirm this plans now works fine and it is not a fiasco it was right after the release? I have HD2 Tmobile US and wonder if it will work on my phone?
I barely use my phone for talking and never over 100mins - data is pretty much what I use for the most of the time and this plan seems like a winner...
What else should we know about this plan?

Hmm yeah I suppose if you need a TON of data, you are better off elsewhere...but for people who want to stick with a GSM carrier, there's nothing better right now!
I'm not sure I could ever give up switching phones as I please.
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Nope. Not really helpful.

eenbox said:
Can someone confirm this plans now works fine and it is not a fiasco it was right after the release? I have HD2 Tmobile US and wonder if it will work on my phone?
I barely use my phone for talking and never over 100mins - data is pretty much what I use for the most of the time and this plan seems like a winner...
What else should we know about this plan?
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Check HoFo. I haven't found much useful information here on XDA.
Of note, I have found no problems with the plan thus far (have only used it for 1 month)

hey everyone. so apparently mobile to mobile doesnt apply to monthly 4g plans. i never read this anywhere and i tried to do as much research as i could before i tired to get on this plan. but now, after 1 day of ussage, im out of minutes.
if you guys have any specific questions, post them, and ill try to answer them

Fact: I found that I had to buy a $30 t-mo phone at walmart to get this plan, and after activation, I moved the sim to a nicer device (bought a nearly unused lg g2x for cheap). I don't talk on the phone, google voice when I do (voice messages conveniently converted to text) and never give out my t-mo phone #.
History: I have been using boost for a couple years and was happy with their service/plan, but even the rather nice samy prevail (thank you ShabbyPenguin!!) was feeling a bit limited (despite root and link2sd). Was about to try Hoarks CM7 on it. I did not feel like trying to get a regular sprint phone to work on boost either.
Review: Signal strength not as good at home, but I use wifi here anyways. I get about 2Mb data over cell here tho, so not too bad. Phone is a kickass upgrade (CWM, CM7 nightly thanks to XDA forums tutorials!) and I like that I can use my sim in many other devices!
Expect to pay $30 for a phone and $30 for plan. Web activation of phone worked. Be sure to use THE AGENT CODE on the phone box! I bought the $30 card but using the scratch and dust number did not validate online , I called tmobile number and entered it there and it validated (whew!).
hope that sheds some light...
eenbox said:
Can someone confirm this plans now works fine and it is not a fiasco it was right after the release? I have HD2 Tmobile US and wonder if it will work on my phone?
I barely use my phone for talking and never over 100mins - data is pretty much what I use for the most of the time and this plan seems like a winner...
What else should we know about this plan?
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freelikegnu said:
Be sure to use THE AGENT CODE on the phone box! I bought the $30 card but using the scratch and dust number
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Is the agent code unique? If not, can you share it?

I just ordered the SIM on T-Mobile's website (ended up getting it as an addition to my postpaid plan for my NS which was sitting unused). I followed the activation steps in the booklet that came with the SIM. No agent code needed and I paid $5.34 for the SIM.
NOTE: This only works if you already have a compatible phone with AWS bands. I don't know about activating a newly bought phone on this plan.
Wasn't me!! I didn't do it!

I'm moving back to DC this summer (from Beijing) and I want to get on this plan. But I lost my phone the other day and need something for the next 3 months.
Q: Is there any Android/ICS international phone I can buy that can be hacked to work with Tmobile HSPA+? I'd say the HTC One S would be perfect for me, but I don't think you can get the one with TMobile 1700 CDMA band.

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international[/U] phone I can buy that can be hacked to work with Tmobile HSPA+? I'd say the HTC One S would be perfect for me, but I don't think you can get the one with TMobile 1700 CDMA band.
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Is the Google's Galaxy Nexus an "international" phone? That may be an option.

Considering changing to this plan...
Has anybody tried tethering on this plan? Also, any non-overage related throttling to report?
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I'm moving back to DC this summer (from Beijing) and I want to get on this plan. But I lost my phone the other day and need something for the next 3 months.
Q: Is there any Android/ICS international phone I can buy that can be hacked to work with Tmobile HSPA+? I'd say the HTC One S would be perfect for me, but I don't think you can get the one with TMobile 1700 CDMA band.
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Generally, no. Some hacking has been done on AT&T-branded phones (e.g. Galaxy Note) to get them to work with T-Mobile's 3G. However, most phones are incapable of this. Saying 1700 band is a bit misleading - as there are a couple 1700MHz bands that are not AWS (i.e. T-Mobile USA).
So far, all of the Nexus phones (GSM versions, excluding "a" variants which support AT&T's 3G) work with the AWS band. A few others like the Sensation and Evo 3D come to mind.
Your options will be limited because the AWS band is fairly unpopular. Most manufacturers don't bother with it as it's used only on the less-popular networks of the U.S. and Canada - nowhere else.

Are there any NON throttled 4g data plans out there?

Well I got my brand-new Samsung galaxy S3 (off contract) and I’ve been playing around the last couple of weeks streaming video and whatnot and to my surprise I get the dreaded text message from AT&T stating that I just got throttled. This is the first-time and I am PISSED!! I am SURE this has been covered before but it’s the first time for me. I had no idea exactly how much they throttled you by until now. I mean you can’t do anything once they tightened the noose. I am grandfathered in with an unlimited LTE plan also which really makes it that much more irritating. Well I guess I need to download that app that finds free hotspots. I am in the San Antonio Texas area and we have good mobile data coverage down here so I have to wonder if there are any providers offering a truly unlimited non-throttled or less throttled 4g (of some kind) data plan. I know that Sprint is just getting their LTE service fired up and they are offering an unlimited plan in my area and technically I am not under contract right now which I made abundantly clear to the AT&T employee that I was speaking with (ranting to) like she cared. Does Sprint pull the same crap that AT&T does? Do I have any options? Thanks in advance.

Sprint just deployed their LTE recently and I've seen data speeds around 30+ MB/s reported by users in Texas
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We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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I'm a moron. Nm.

When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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erichj said:
We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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LTE? How are speeds?

s1mpd1ddy said:
When I'm throttled on att ... my data speed goes from LTE to regular 3G , which is more then enough to stream video and music. How slow are you getting?
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I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.

bud951 said:
I went from almost 50mbs down to .5mbs down and up! Its enough to do little stuff but that's not the point. Its just unacceptable to be THAT limited on an UN-limited plan. Ive been with them 10 years since they were SWB and Cingular Wireless and Ive never come close to 5 gigs until now. How do we stream video and other data intensive stuff on 5 lousy gigs a month? Sprint offers Unlimited LTE in my area NON throttled according to Sprint rep. I will go to Sprint store tomorrow and see how fast it is. I am not under AT&T contract so I can shop around. The plan im on is almost as much as the unlimited Sprint plan so no big price difference. Is there a catch to Sprints data service? Do they start charging extra or or limit download size or cut you off if you tethering or anything? Is Sprint a good alternative to AT&T? Sprint seems the logical choice if thier speed is equal or near AT&Ts. Is AT&Ts call quality better or Sprint? Inst Sprint CDMA? Info greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Lucky. Tmo goes to edge which is Max .08mbps
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erichj said:
We have unlimited data at Sprint. I've never been throttled even when I spent a month on roam and used like 35GB.
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Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB

stupidchicken03 said:
Im grandfathered in for unlim data for Vz. 14 days into my billing cycle sitting with 94.7 GB
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Good god, may I ask what you use all that data doing? I'm getting 10mbs on sprint.
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To answer you question there are no gimmicks with Sprint when it comes to unlimited data. There plans really are unlimited and I live in Atlanta where my 4gLTE just activated and I am very pleased with the speeds. I'm loving Sprint right now.
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Since the 5th, I've switched to Sprint. Coverage blows in stl, but blown past my 2gb cap I had with att and living that so far. Some coverage and I will be set!
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If I had lte on sprint I'd be all over it. But 3g by me is horrible and no service whatsoever at my house really kills it. So I recently switched to att where my coverage is awesome and my 3g is easily 8x faster on average. If lte on sprint ever comes to my area I will certainly reconsider my choice. Until then ill live with my 5gb att cap.
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5. something gbs........ throttled
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I live in Jefferson City, MO and we aren't slated for LTE until later this year.
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The only reason Sprint has been able to offer truely unlimited plans is because the speeds were just too slow to generate any meaningful volume. With LTE now, they will be in the same position (likely worse equipped) once volume increases across the network. Enjoy it while it lasts. I certainly wouldn't be jumping ship having unlimited (5g) with ATT in hand to have fully unlimited data for a year or so.

Sprint doesn't cut you off or anything when it comes to data usage (unless you're roaming.) Go to 500 gb a month if you'd like.

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5. something gbs........ throttled
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Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds

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Those throttled speeds are faster than most peoples Sprint 3G speeds
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as it should be... its 4g

I don't know why people are so up in arms about this stuff. Most carriers are going to tiered data.... it's the way it is and nothing's changing that. It's already been in the rumor mill based on some things done/said by sprint that they too, will be going to throttled/tiered methods to controlling data. I don't know about you guys, but I know that ever since tethering became very popular, TONS of people have been trying to use their mobile data connections as primary internet sources. While it's all fine and dandy that you feel that you should use your data how you want, the networks (and when I say networks, i mean ALL of them) are not yet ready to support everybody's daily habits and still be strong enough to support the current flow of telephone calls or data calls.
When that day comes, by all means, have the carriers put out unlimited data plans and have your telephone be your primary internet connection, but until that day when the networks are strong enough to support it, I still want to be able to make phone calls if need be, especially in an emergency.
By having service, it doesn't give anybody the right to unlimited data, or if they do have it, to use it however they wish. There are still terms and conditions with each company. I know it's not something that everybody likes, but it's the way life is. I am personally pretty glad that the carriers are approaching it this way, because in my area, I see first hand how tethering on smart phones can easily cripple networks at this current time.
I'll give you all an example. I work in a town of 45,000 people, with a "metropolitan" style town surrounding with a grand total of like 80,000 people. That's not a whole lot, which means there's not a ****load of towers here to support our mobile data/calling habits. The thing is, we're in Wisconsin, and there's a lot of places in Wisconsin that you can now get 3G service but can't even get Satellite internet service more than 700kbps. 3G service in those areas average 1-2 megs of service. HSPA/HSPA+ service in some of those areas range from 3-9megs of service. With a cost of $30-80 for sat. service, it's obvious what people would rather use for their internet. If even a 3rd of those 80,000 people started using their phones as primary internet connections, our network would quickly become stressed.
It's becoming more and more obvious to me every day too, that people are wanting to use their phone as a primary internet connection because they can't get land line service or want to save money on a more frequent basis. At least once or twice a day I get a customer coming in and asking us about our mobile internet service because they want to get rid of their land lines to save money, consolidate bills, or can't get land lines at home.
With the rate of how many people are now getting their hands on phones that are capable of tethering, that could very quickly change the work load of the towers on ANY network, be it sprint, at&t, tmo, verizon etc etc.... and it's not going to be for the better.... for now.
I guess the moral of the story is, as a person who still utilizes land line services as his primary source of internet (especially for streaming content/downloading content), I would love to have the cell phone towers I utilize still be able to support my telephone calls, instead of straining to support everybody's netflix addictions. Until the networks are built to support that kind of stuff, I can't say I disapprove of the way things are going on the carriers. Nobody's entitled to anything when it comes to service, and that being said, is what gives freedom of choice when it comes to your carrier choice. Just keep in mind that Sprint is looking more and more likely to follow suit with the tiered/throttled plans... seeing as they've already done it (according to articles, don't know if it's actually implemented) on their hotspot devices. If it's true, and has happened, It's not long till they do it to their smartphones, since every single one is ALSO a hotspot device.
*rant over*
P.S. This post is not meant to directly flame, offend, or belittle anyone for their habits. Everybody is different and has their own opinions, so keep in mind that this is MY opinion and the way I feel. Please keep your responses to it civil, because if they turn childish and mean hearted, i'll make sure the mods know and maybe close it because there's no need for that.

I'm off contract and really thinking Sprint...w/unlimited Data

Don't you think thats the best choice for big data users?

Yes, its un throttled, and many major markets are getting LTE by April 2013.
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i have sprint and want out. 3g is more like whatever is slower than 1x and unless you're in a major market in first lte rollout you won't have it for quite a while, making you stuck on 3g. Wimax hasn't supported many areas and the rollout was slow. research before committing
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Wimax is very strong in Chicago too...

i have sprint and am leaving as well. thinking about the note 2 on tmobile but really want an exynos 5250 phone so we'll see if i can hold out till the gs4. either way i'm done with sprint and their crappy network.

rockky said:
Wimax is very strobg in Chicago too...
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I'm on sprint, I have the og epic 4g, wimax was really slow until the devs here figured the epics radio was buggy thanks to samsung. Now I can flash the Nexus modem on to my phone and wimax is amazing, way faster than before and pretty consistent. The evo LTE is having the same problem with their radio right now I believe. Anyways for heavy data users Sprint is great, but it really depends on where you live, figure out what's best for you because crappy data speeds are about as good as throttled data speeds. I hope Samsung does a good job on the note 2 modem.

My experience with Sprint was great till recently. Speeds are horrible and I've had to call twice in two weeks about texts not going through. My wife isn't receiving calls on her Epic Touch. I would seriously reconsider your decision. We will be headed to At&t asap and I plan on picking up a Note 2.
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Don't you think thats the best choice for big data users?
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Sprint's data speeds really suck, especially inside buildings.
You might want to get a hotspot and test it out for a month.
Go around the areas you frequent and run speed tests.
Or buy a cheapo Sprint phone off CL and get a month of service. This way you can use it for as long as you wish and then cancel if you don't like the service since you aren't in a contract.

I have yet to ever meet someone who's uttered the phrase, "I'm satisfied with Sprint." Their service problems go back at least 12 years because that's when I used to sell phones with Sprint being one of the carriers.

Hotobu said:
I have yet to ever meet someone who's uttered the phrase, "I'm satisfied with Sprint." Their service problems go back at least 12 years because that's when I used to sell phones with Sprint being one of the carriers.
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Welp, maybe we're not meeting in person, but consider this a virtual introduction.
It just so happens I've been with Sprint for the last twelve years & I'm satisfied with Sprint. I'll even go as far as to say, I've had the best experience with Sprint of any carrier. Good quality cellular & data service, customer service has been impressive, & pound for pound, none of the big dogs can beat their pricing (at least not yet). I've had both Verizon & AT&T. Can't speak for T-Mobile, but I'm still with Sprint after 12 years.
And I may be out of line in saying this, but I'm guessing not too many folks go to the retailer specifically just to tell them how great & satisfied they've been with their service or provider, regardless of carrier. Unless they're renewing or accessorizing, they're there because they have a problem with their phone or with the service, with their bill, or with their current carrier/provider & they are looking to switch.
Edit: Sorry OP. To address your question, if I haven't already made it obvious, I do think Sprint is the best choice.

chconser said:
Welp, maybe we're not meeting in person, but consider this a virtual introduction.
It just so happens I've been with Sprint for the last twelve years & I'm satisfied with Sprint. I'll even go as far as to say, I've had the best experience with Sprint of any carrier. Good quality cellular & data service, customer service has been impressive, & pound for pound, none of the big dogs can beat their pricing (at least not yet). I've had both Verizon & AT&T. Can't speak for T-Mobile, but I'm still with Sprint after 12 years.
And I may be out of line in saying this, but I'm guessing not too many folks go to the retailer specifically just to tell them how great & satisfied they've been with their service or provider, regardless of carrier. Unless they're renewing or accessorizing, they're there because they have a problem with their phone or with the service, with their bill, or with their current carrier/provider & they are looking to switch.
Edit: Sorry OP. To address your question, if I haven't already made it obvious, I do think Sprint is the best choice.
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+1 to this from me. 10 years with Sprint. True unlimited data FTW!**
**unless you're planning to use BitTorrent on it...then they boot you.
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Don't know about U guys but unlimited data feature of sprint is HUGE to me. Right now I have a sprint MiFi and am really ALWAYS satisfied with data speeds....5-9mbps which is fine with me.
Believe me if I had to spend one minute on their 3G I'd bolt.
I have $35mo unlimited data on their MiFi.
Right now while waiting for SGN2 to drop I'm also on prepaid TMobile $30mo 100min talk unlimited data unlinited text.

Sprint is amazing and has some of the best customer service I've ever experienced.

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Sprint's data speeds really suck, especially inside buildings.
You might want to get a hotspot and test it out for a month.
Go around the areas you frequent and run speed tests.
Or buy a cheapo Sprint phone off CL and get a month of service. This way you can use it for as long as you wish and then cancel if you don't like the service since you aren't in a contract.
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Listen to this guy. Seen replies where sprint can be great or plainly suck ass. Seemms it's location dependent so listen to this guy!

I've had Sprint for about 8 years and I can't stand it.
3G data is miserable. They are going with 1900Mhz LTE network, bad building penetration as opposed to Verizon's 900Mhz. . I'm probably going to Verizon, they rock in Los Angeles. Yes, I'm going to deal with the Devil.

I only pay about $50+tax for the SERO plan, if I switch I will end up paying twice as much for similar plan. SERO is like 500mins, unlimited text and data. I read on my bill it said unlimited data roaming also, but I never have tried that. Still it's too cheap to switch over for me.

UTStarcom probably the absolute worst time to compare sprint with the network upgrades taking place. Living in an area that is nearing halfway completion I can tell you yeah,it's long over due (though they are less then a year behind att's start to their still ongoing lte rollout)
Currently I have both Sprint and Att phones.
Call quality for me in Dallas is awesome...and let is comparable if not faster.
We still have the same issues we have always had on att...and speeds slowing compared to when lte went live in Dallas last October
Both have made huge customer service improvements and both are actively working on their network
That being said...check s4g4u.com for speculated upgrade schedule, compare prices w/usage habbits and make a decision.
For me...the unlimited data is a no brainer...but I live in a strong sprint market
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i have sprint and want out. 3g is more like whatever is slower than 1x and unless you're in a major market in first lte rollout you won't have it for quite a while, making you stuck on 3g. Wimax hasn't supported many areas and the rollout was slow. research before committing
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i have sprint and am leaving as well. thinking about the note 2 on tmobile but really want an exynos 5250 phone so we'll see if i can hold out till the gs4. either way i'm done with sprint and their crappy network.
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i agree with you guys. just got done talking to tmobile. i think ill get the galaxy note 2 with them. idc that its only hspa+ 42mbps, that holds its own with the lte networks now anyway. plus, theyll cheaper than what i pay sprint

Just check your local area, graba phone from both and prepaay to test it out.
I hate ATT, because I pay 160 a month for 2 phones, and could be paying 100 with someone else.

Sprint sucks. I've been with all 4 major carriers. For where I live in my state I'd put it in this order.
1. Verizon Wireless
2. T-Mobile (Now true unlimited, NO throttling)
3. at&t (A lot of dropped calls)
4. Prepaid carriers
5. Sprint (Unusable data speeds) and I had wimax with them, it wasn't impressive, maybe 1mb download speeds, for 4G that sucks. I would get some of my texts and calls really late. Like a day or two later. I was like wtf? This voicemail was from 3 days ago? I will never go back to Sprint.

Att gophone canceling all data packages over 50mb?

Did anyone else get this text?
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thats a rip off!
$5 for 50mb is robbery.. i paid an extra $30 for 10gb on tmobile.

That message must be worded wrong. AT&T just enabled LTE on GoPhone and they are now trying to get smartphone customers on prepaid. They still have the $5, $15, and $25 plans. They definitely are not dropping all data plans but the 50mb plan. If they did that, then that would kill off smartphones on GoPhone.

Well I truly hope it's worded wrong..
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Did anyone else get this text?
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I got the text today too, mine also said any auto renewals of data packages will be canceled. I only have the 200 MB plan and have only used 16 MB in 3 weeks so it looks like I still may be able to get by with only 50 MB. I'm on wifi 99% of the time now and use mobile data now strictly for emergencies only. I think AT&T is trying to push everyone into their new service, there is a thread here about it somewhere, its supposed to be a direct competitor to Net10 and StraightTalk. I didn't really like the looks of it.

I got it, I read something on CNET about how they are introducing LTE on gophone, and sometime in mid june theres supposed to be new data packages available. So I'm hoping that the new data plans are just replacing the ones that are disappearing, and having only one choice is only temporary. If not, I'm a bit screwed...

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I got it, I read something on CNET about how they are introducing LTE on gophone, and sometime in mid june theres supposed to be new data packages available. So I'm hoping that the new data plans are just replacing the ones that are disappearing, and having only one choice is only temporary. If not, I'm a bit screwed...
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Just read the article and it says data will be LTE/HSPA+, we currently have 3G/HSPA+, so I would expect to see an increase in the price of the data plans. Their standard data plans run $20(300 MB), $30(3 GB) and $50(5 GB). I could live with that but I would assume we would need new sims to access the data and as we don't have 4G/LTE phones are we even going to be able to activate the Nexus 4 on the network? The LTE network where I live isn't band 4 so that part is out of the question but would it then default to HSPA+?

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Just read the article and it says data will be LTE/HSPA+, we currently have 3G/HSPA+, so I would expect to see an increase in the price of the data plans. Their standard data plans run $20(300 MB), $30(3 GB) and $50(5 GB). I could live with that but I would assume we would need new sims to access the data and as we don't have 4G/LTE phones are we even going to be able to activate the Nexus 4 on the network? The LTE network where I live isn't band 4 so that part is out of the question but would it then default to HSPA+?
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I think the plan should still support hspa+. It's like when I was on Verizon, the 4g coverage wasn't near as good as the 3g, so when I was out of 4g areas I still got 3g. Plus I could still force 3g even in a 4g area.

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I think the plan should still support hspa+. It's like when I was on Verizon, the 4g coverage wasn't near as good as the 3g, so when I was out of 4g areas I still got 3g. Plus I could still force 3g even in a 4g area.
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I found the thread about getting a 4G data plan from AT&T for the Nexus 4. I knew I read somewhere that you had to jump through a lot of hoops to get a 4G plan (not HSPA+) from AT&T for the Nexus 4. AT&T in most cases won't activate the Nexus 4 on their network as a 4G device, you have to use another 4G phones IMEI that you basically steal and use that IMEI to activate the device on AT&T. The guys at my AT&T store are pretty cool so I might be able to talk them into hooking me up with a 4G plan.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2021401&highlight=at&t

It seems if you are on the $25 plan, they will only offer 50mb from now on and the only other option will be the $65 plan that includes unlimited talk/text + 1GB of data. For now these will be the only options. You have to think AT&T is going to add other options but maybe not knowing AT&T.

I have nearly $50 in my prepaid AT&T account, and I'll lose it if I cancel, but so be it. I already got burned once when I paid $25 for 1 GB of data to use for a week and it expired before my next trip even though I used less than half.
T-Mobile gets my business from now on when I cross the border. $3/day for unlimited talk/text + up to 200 MB on high speed. It's a no brainer. Afaik, TMo has good coverage over the places I visit the most by now (Boston, Buffalo, Bellingham, Bay Area).

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I have nearly $50 in my prepaid AT&T account, and I'll lose it if I cancel, but so be it. I already got burned once when I paid $25 for 1 GB of data to use for a week and it expired before my next trip even though I used less than half.
T-Mobile gets my business from now on when I cross the border. $3/day for unlimited talk/text + up to 200 MB on high speed. It's a no brainer. Afaik, TMo has good coverage over the places I visit the most by now (Boston, Buffalo, Bellingham, Bay Area).
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I really wish they'd expand their data. Doesn't even get close to covering me at home or work.
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New GoPhone plans Announced Today
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I really wish they'd expand their data. Doesn't even get close to covering me at home or work.
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New GoPhone plans will be available starting June 21. They look really good to me.
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/1...w-plans-4g-lte-access-on-june-21/#more-111159

kzoodroid said:
New GoPhone plans will be available starting June 21. They look really good to me.
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Compared to what? Not T-Mobile or straight talk.

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Compared to what? Not T-Mobile or straight talk.
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Tried both and they suck, as has pretty much everyone in this thread but you it appears. Yeah you can get a $30 plan from T-Mobile but if you can't get a signal anywhere but on the Interstate what good is it? And ST? What a joke, you get throttled in a heart beat, customer service is non-existent and the GoPhone plans are actually about the same price so their is no deal there.

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Tried both and they suck, as has pretty much everyone in this thread but you it appears. Yeah you can get a $30 plan from T-Mobile but if you can't get a signal anywhere but on the Interstate what good is it? And ST? What a joke, you get throttled in a heart beat, customer service is non-existent and the GoPhone plans are actually about the same price so their is no deal there.
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Really? $45 is about the same as $60?

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Really? $45 is about the same as $60?
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No, but when you get throttled for doing nothing, data speeds suck and are sometimes completely unusable, and have nonexistent customer service, the price difference doesn't mean anything. Plus gophone is going to give you the full att postpaid data service and speeds, meaning that you won't have a bandwidth cap. MVNO's buy data from att, I seriously doubt they are giving you the full speed that att "reserves" for their post paid customers.

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Tried both and they suck, as has pretty much everyone in this thread but you it appears. Yeah you can get a $30 plan from T-Mobile but if you can't get a signal anywhere but on the Interstate what good is it?
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You said the plans looked good. I wasn't commenting on service. The plans are not comparable to pretty much any prepaid service.

I just cancelled my t-mobile account today. I have been with them since January this year.
No signal anywhere, and I'm done with them. Data speeds are fantastic, if you can get a signal. My loss of signal is 60% with them.
I'm gong to att go phone.
Can someone tell me what I need to do to get a micro sim card to get the go phone service started???