as the titel suggests, my x will not boot at all. i had it charging all night, took it off and it was at 100%. put it in my pocket and headed to school where i used it first period. went to use it in second, and i had the issue. In a matter of 3 minutes, I thought my phone died. I had my charger, luckily so I tried that... no response whatsoever. I then tried without battery and sd and finally got a response. With only the wall charger and no battery, the green LED flashes rapidly. I thought the battery was still to dead until i got to engineering where i tested the votage with a multimeter. 3.7 volts which is where it should be. It will not start at all, so theres no way to get to bootloader to sbf or anything. Any suggestions?
btw i was on liberty 2.1
I am not exactly sure about this method and I claim no responsibility if something bad happens to your phone, however search this forum and look for a "macgyver" method to charge you battery. Try this except put the spliced cables on the ports in your phone. I will look for the thread and post it here when I find it
I actually tried that, it didn't help. The battery is charged, I checked the voltage. I'm taking it to Verizon later and I'm going to ask to try a new charger, or battery.
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I went on holiday recently, leaving my Wizard (02 Mini S) at home but I forgot to put it on charge. Now I have returned the phone is dead and will do nothing. Left it on charge (no charge light showed mind you but charger was plugged in and switched on) but still no signs of life. Any ideas please people?
maybe a minor problem -- dead battery?
Li-on battery doesn't like full flat. Chances are, you probably left it when the battery is low, and once you came back, it went to the 'bottomless pit'.
Anyway, there is a way to jump start it, by using a higher voltage source and spark it then charge it as normal. I dont remember the voltage use ,but you can have a search around here. Usually with people flashing their ROM, failed, left the phone around, and battery went dead.
heard of this happening with pocket pcs and phones alike when both backup and main battery are depleted.
Apparently one fix is to take battery out leave for a while (an hour maybe) and then put back in and put it straight on charge.
if that doesnt work you could try seeing if you get any resonse when plugged into your pc with the usb.
It could always be zecoj says a dead battery.
I have this exact problem with my old ipaq but just havent got around to buying a new battery yet as the battery out trick didnt work.
Hope you get it running again quicky.
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Li-on battery doesn't like full flat. Chances are, you probably left it when the battery is low, and once you came back, it went to the 'bottomless pit'.
Anyway, there is a way to jump start it, by using a higher voltage source and spark it then charge it as normal. I dont remember the voltage use ,but you can have a search around here. Usually with people flashing their ROM, failed, left the phone around, and battery went dead.
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found out about this one on my travels looking for a fix for my ipaq. lots of guides suggested stripping cables from a usb cable but im not all that happy doing that myself!
I cant see it being the battery, phone is only 11 months old for a start and it held its charge no prob before I went away. I have tried plugging it into the Pc and wall, no dice. Will try car charger cradle later and as we speak battery is out of phone for one hour as suggested so will see how that goes. Damn these so called 'smart' phones that cant even tell when the charger is plugged back in lol. Not so smart after all eh! No smart remarks about me not being smart enough to charge it while on hols either!!!!!
iirc its because they need a little charge in able to charge which is silly really. And allthough the battery is only 11 months old and would otherwise work fine ive heard of them breaking because of being left to run out.
woo-hoo!!!!! Car cradle attached to a battery charger on boost and bosh!! In there like swim wear!!! I have breathed life back into her again!!! Cheers guys, up and running!!! Sweet as. Yes, Im a bit happy.
unit wont boot up at all... nothing.. ive tried multiple batteries, the only indications of anything with the phone is the red led when a charger is plugged into it..
any thoughts? please help
thanks!!
Mine had to take juice for about 15 minutes before it would turn on.. With you trying other batteries, I'd assume at least 1 of them already had a charge, but you may try letting it sit on charge for a while.
I had the same problem with mine when I got it in the store, the red light comes on when you plug it in, after telling the nice Telus lady many times, I think you should try a different battery she did and it worked. We did try charging the other battery for more than a half hour or so, so I am thinking it was a deffective battery. If letting it charge for sometime and if multiple batteries doesn't fix it I would say it is most likely a paper weight but I am by no means an expert.
My p4000 turned on right away and was working instantly.
I would think that with the unit plugged into a working USB/car/wall charger it should work regardless of the battery state.
However - if the battery is actually B-A-D and acts like it is not there - or the contacts are dirty or a bit of debris or plastic is covering the contacts, then the unit will act like there is no battery in it and wont turn on.
After 2 oem batteries and 2 extended batteries, Im very confused as to whats going on. It will turn on fine, and it will even charge the battery, but once it hits 100% the wizard will restart and it will show battery level as zero and shutdown. I thought mabey it wasnt charging but it will let me install roms and i can restart it as much as i want. Thanks for looking!!!!
One thing i forgot...
I can also get it running by running wires from it to another phone battery ( i was trying to use it to replace my blackjack2) and by taking the 3.3volt power adapter route, i can even get it to start charging. but it will either cut off at 99% and reboot saying dead battery or take the battery out adn put it in to get 0%.
Update.... Not that anyone is reading lol
Ok, Ive made a little more progress today. Using sketchy methods, 3.3v adapter wires between phone and battery, i got it to charge whil on usb with computer to 100% today without shutting off ( a first since before flashed). Once I removed it from usb thou, the battery bar went immediatly down to 50%. I charged it to 100% percent again, but once i dosconected it, the battery level would decrese almost as if the gague were a countdown clock. I tried doing the powersave registry edit posted in these forums, but the phone showed 0% charger after the soft reset and promptly died again.... I just put in the other extended battery i pulled from a nap in the freezer, and if i ever find a solution i will post it... thanks to whoever is looking for looking!!!
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I can also get it running by running wires from it to another phone battery ( i was trying to use it to replace my blackjack2) and by taking the 3.3volt power adapter route, i can even get it to start charging. but it will either cut off at 99% and reboot saying dead battery or take the battery out adn put it in to get 0%.
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After 2 oem batteries and 2 extended batteries, Im very confused as to whats going on. It will turn on fine, and it will even charge the battery, but once it hits 100% the wizard will restart and it will show battery level as zero and shutdown. I thought mabey it wasnt charging but it will let me install roms and i can restart it as much as i want. Thanks for looking!!!!
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Ok, Ive made a little more progress today. Using sketchy methods, 3.3v adapter wires between phone and battery, i got it to charge whil on usb with computer to 100% today without shutting off ( a first since before flashed). Once I removed it from usb thou, the battery bar went immediatly down to 50%. I charged it to 100% percent again, but once i dosconected it, the battery level would decrese almost as if the gague were a countdown clock. I tried doing the powersave registry edit posted in these forums, but the phone showed 0% charger after the soft reset and promptly died again.... I just put in the other extended battery i pulled from a nap in the freezer, and if i ever find a solution i will post it... thanks to whoever is looking for looking!!!
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to me i looks like a short in the main bored hit me up on aim
Another update...
Ok. Still freezing battery and such. But today i finally got around to dissasembly and everything on the inside seemed fine to the unexperienced eye. the water sticker was ok, no clearly visable burn marks. It was a little dirty, but nothing that should cause this type of error. I did notice some weird things, but im not sure if thats just wizard guts or if its something to be concerned about. Hopefull I'll be able to get some guidance on this, i really hate missing calls on Crapjack2
This is getting expensive.....
So, I bought a battery charger and after rigging it with some wire to charge my extended battery(s), it shows the battery being charged and will run like normall... except i cant charge the batteries in phone..... so yeah... Im waiting on an oem wall charger in the mail, but im still open to the fried main board. I just need to know a little more before i start spending more money lol
edit: oh also, im only really charging it by usb whenever i attempt at internally charging the battery. Occasionally i borrow my cousin's kaiser wall charger, but i dont have mine yet
not boot looping, just nothing at all. The phone won't power on.
The battery ran completely out, but now, after charging it overnight, it will not power on at all. I've seen various threads saying to take the battery out for 30 min or so, try pulling the battery & SD card WHILE it's plugged into the charger, try booting it with no battery at all (just charger), and all of them state to use the wall charger, as being in a PC USB port won't be enough.
I've tried everything, but nada.
My phone is/was running the rooted gingerblur leak, which I installed correctly by SBFing first beforehand and doing a total wipe. I honestly didn't even bother reinstalling very many apps, I've been so busy at work over spring break. The phone HAD been shut down and restarted a few times since flashing the gingerblur, so this wasn't the first time it rebooted since then or anything.
Had a few force closes and random reboots over the time on gingerblur, and was actually not that excited about it, but now I'm stuck with a brick it looks like.... any ideas?
I had the same problem on mine it would stay at the boot logo and wouldnt go past that I called Verizon and they are sending me a replacement.
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I had the same problem on mine it would stay at the boot logo...
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Mine doesn't do *anything*... no boot logo, no nothing.
just got back from verizon with a new battery, works fine again... just posting as a followup. I thought it would be odd that even with a dead battery in the unit, it wouldn't power on with the wall charger attached, but with a new battery (got the extended one while I was at it) it works fine again.
another update: ate thru that battery, and died again. Recharging the new battery does nothing. Mine seems to have a hardware failure in general that it won't recharge batteries at all. New batteries come with some juice in them, but once that's gone it's gone.
Bought one more battery just to SBF it back to vanilla before I send it in for warranty service. Will keep this thread posted just in case anyone else runs into this... I hate finding threads with problems that just trail off with no resolution.
I'm not sure if they intended the DX to work like this, or whatever; but if my battery runs completely dead, the phone cannot charge it. I get the same green light you do, annnnd nothing when I try to power on.
What I have done to solve this in the past was to cut open the cable for either a 5v power supply or a usb cable. Either tape off the unused wires or be seriously careful not to go crossing wires, plug the charger in, and touch the appropriate cables to the battery terminals, (battery out of the phone). About a minute is all it takes to give it enough juice to charge in the phone with a standard charger.
Someone else posted a more in dept guide on this process, if you are unsure of any steps, please search for that rather than causing damage.
Not my fault if something bad happens from anyone following this; however, I have done this numerous times with zero issues.
happened to me twice and each time verizon replaces just after hearing the symptom. must be hw failure
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happened to me twice and each time verizon replaces just after hearing the symptom. must be hw failure
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Replaces Battery or phone?
yeah, final post on this, but Verizon is sending me a replacement phone. I've had the DX since launch, and this will be my third one, but they've always been good about sucking it up and just sending me a new one free of charge.
I bought two replacement batteries in total (which were both returned) -- one thinking that it was just a bad battery and another when it became apparent that wasn't the fix. I thought I'd be sending it to motorola for warranty, and wanted to flash the SBF back on to return it to vanilla.
Anyway, long story short: if you found this thread because you're having the same issues, just buy another battery, flash it back to stock, and take it in for replacement. Then you can return the battery.
Cheers.
Trying to fix a family members xt907 so here's the situation which has been nothing but headaches for me:
1. The Phone is only 7 months old and the bootloader is unlocked so warranty exchange is out of the question. She let the battery run down until the phone died. Then without charging the phone she turned it back on and it died again. From that point she couldn't get it to charge or turn back on while plugged in. At this point she brought it to me.
2. I got the phone and did a soft reset which finally got the charging screen to come up (showed the actual charging icon and the fill meter would flash up and then back down periodically). Problem is it never went past 0% after charging all night. I went ahead and tried to power it up thinking maybe it was just a glitch with the charging screen. Phone wouldnt boot. Just stuck at the Motorola logo. Another soft reset and the phone finally boots but now the battery icon showed a '?' and status showed '5% - Unknown'.
3. Performed a factory reset. No change. So I used RSD to flash the stock 4.1.2 firmware/kernel/modem, etc... What I found strange here is that despite the low battery Fastboot AP showed battery as OK, not low and let me flash (bootloader is unlocked, not sure if that affects low battery flashing or if that safeguard just wasnt built into the M).
4. So phone boots back up and shows 7% battery. Plugging in the charger at first notice has no affect. Battery stats shows '7% - Not Charging'. So I unplug the charger and the low battery warning pops up. Plug it back in and phone still doesnt register as charging, but says 'Not Charging'. Then I notice that the lockscreen shows '7% Charging'. Weird. Regardless of all that, the battery was not charging. The percentage never goes up and after reboots the percentage will remain the same. The battery does slowly discharge on the charger if I have it powered on.
5. I tried flashing a couple different roms before flashing back to stock and all had the same problem. I've formated /system hoping it was a problem with the OS but it didnt help. All of these charging tests were performed with the stock Motorola usb cable plugged into the wall charger. I tested the Motorola charger against my S4 to verify it works and also tried my Samsung charger on the Razr and it made no difference. However, booting the Razr M up with the Samsung charger resulted in the '?' in the battery icon and a notification in the status bar saying something about a CommServer starting. This notification was persistant and could not be dismissed. If I reboot the phone with the Motorola charger or no charger then that notification and the '?' dont appear.
6. I should also point out that I opened the phone up and disconnected the battery from the board and discharged the board. As a last resort I completely removed the battery and peeled back the tape on the bottom of the battery to expose the + and - terminals on the battery and wired it up to a stripped down charger and left it for a bit. Upon putting the battery back in the phone it showed a charge of 30% but still had all the same problems otherwise. So the battery is capable of taking a charge, it just wont take it through the phone, whether powered on or off. Thats what leads me to believe the battery itself is not bad. Its not practical for her to pull the battery to charge it, obviously. The phone detects the cable being plugged in and I can transfer files via usb cable to/from the computer no problem, so I'm fairly sure the Micro usb port is ok. Just refuses to charge.
A little lengthy but I'm at my wits end on this and really dont want to have her buy a $50 battery and then its a problem with the phone. I dont usually get stumped when it comes to fixing something but this one really has me. So if anybody can shed some light on this situation it would be greatly appreciated.
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Trying to fix a family members xt907 so here's the situation which has been nothing but headaches for me:
1. The Phone is only 7 months old and the bootloader is unlocked so warranty exchange is out of the question. She let the battery run down until the phone died. Then without charging the phone she turned it back on and it died again. From that point she couldn't get it to charge or turn back on while plugged in. At this point she brought it to me.
2. I got the phone and did a soft reset which finally got the charging screen to come up (showed the actual charging icon and the fill meter would flash up and then back down periodically). Problem is it never went past 0% after charging all night. I went ahead and tried to power it up thinking maybe it was just a glitch with the charging screen. Phone wouldnt boot. Just stuck at the Motorola logo. Another soft reset and the phone finally boots but now the battery icon showed a '?' and status showed '5% - Unknown'.
3. Performed a factory reset. No change. So I used RSD to flash the stock 4.1.2 firmware/kernel/modem, etc... What I found strange here is that despite the low battery Fastboot AP showed battery as OK, not low and let me flash (bootloader is unlocked, not sure if that affects low battery flashing or if that safeguard just wasnt built into the M).
4. So phone boots back up and shows 7% battery. Plugging in the charger at first notice has no affect. Battery stats shows '7% - Not Charging'. So I unplug the charger and the low battery warning pops up. Plug it back in and phone still doesnt register as charging, but says 'Not Charging'. Then I notice that the lockscreen shows '7% Charging'. Weird. Regardless of all that, the battery was not charging. The percentage never goes up and after reboots the percentage will remain the same. The battery does slowly discharge on the charger if I have it powered on.
5. I tried flashing a couple different roms before flashing back to stock and all had the same problem. I've formated /system hoping it was a problem with the OS but it didnt help. All of these charging tests were performed with the stock Motorola usb cable plugged into the wall charger. I tested the Motorola charger against my S4 to verify it works and also tried my Samsung charger on the Razr and it made no difference. However, booting the Razr M up with the Samsung charger resulted in the '?' in the battery icon and a notification in the status bar saying something about a CommServer starting. This notification was persistant and could not be dismissed. If I reboot the phone with the Motorola charger or no charger then that notification and the '?' dont appear.
6. I should also point out that I opened the phone up and disconnected the battery from the board and discharged the board. As a last resort I completely removed the battery and peeled back the tape on the bottom of the battery to expose the + and - terminals on the battery and wired it up to a stripped down charger and left it for a bit. Upon putting the battery back in the phone it showed a charge of 30% but still had all the same problems otherwise. So the battery is capable of taking a charge, it just wont take it through the phone, whether powered on or off. Thats what leads me to believe the battery itself is not bad. Its not practical for her to pull the battery to charge it, obviously. The phone detects the cable being plugged in and I can transfer files via usb cable to/from the computer no problem, so I'm fairly sure the Micro usb port is ok. Just refuses to charge.
A little lengthy but I'm at my wits end on this and really dont want to have her buy a $50 battery and then its a problem with the phone. I dont usually get stumped when it comes to fixing something but this one really has me. So if anybody can shed some light on this situation it would be greatly appreciated.
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I presumed you tried to wipe the battery stats via the battery calibration app? not that I think it would make a difference. another option is enable/disable USB debugging. you could also try charging into a PC or a different outlet (perhaps that outlet does not provide a good current)?
not really sure, just tossing out some ideas...
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I presumed you tried to wipe the battery stats via the battery calibration app? not that I think it would make a difference. another option is enable/disable USB debugging. you could also try charging into a PC or a different outlet (perhaps that outlet does not provide a good current)?
not really sure, just tossing out some ideas...
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I actually installed cwm recovery just to wipe battery stats. Im assuming it works the same way but I'll give the app a try. I'll try anything at this point. Tried your other ideas already though and didnt make any difference.
I appreciate the input. I'll give that app a try and see if it does something different from wiping battery stats in recovery.
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I actually installed cwm recovery just to wipe battery stats. Im assuming it works the same way but I'll give the app a try. I'll try anything at this point. Tried your other ideas already though and didnt make any difference.
I appreciate the input. I'll give that app a try and see if it does something different from wiping battery stats in recovery.
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Doubt it. However, the issue seems to be with the hardware, and since it is not a software issue, Motorola could honor the warranty. Last resort would be to unroot and see if you can get an exchange.
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have you tried a non moto cable? the one that came with my fone was total crap, would continuously connect and disconnect when i hooked it up to my comp or try to charge it, so i tried my old samsung cable and i didnt have any disconnect problems at all. just a suggestion
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I actually installed cwm recovery just to wipe battery stats. Im assuming it works the same way but I'll give the app a try. I'll try anything at this point. Tried your other ideas already though and didnt make any difference.
I appreciate the input. I'll give that app a try and see if it does something different from wiping battery stats in recovery.
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Did you ever find a solution? I am having the same issues with my xt907.
What did you have it plugged in to? The fact that it said it was not charging indicates maybe you didn't have enough power coming through the charging port...
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have you tried a non moto cable? the one that came with my fone was total crap, would continuously connect and disconnect when i hooked it up to my comp or try to charge it, so i tried my old samsung cable and i didnt have any disconnect problems at all. just a suggestion
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yeah I tried my Samsung cable as well.
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Did you ever find a solution? I am having the same issues with my xt907.
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No. Verizon finally sent her a refurb replacement. I got the battery to charge up by taking it out and rigging a charger to it. But the phone still wouldnt accept a charge with the battery back in and it lost the charge it did have 2-3 times faster than normal. Battery Stats also showed the battery was showing a pretty decent voltage so unless the battery itself has a low charge circuit that gets tripped I'd be hesitant to point to the battery itself. And the charger port transfered files just fine and the phone recognized when the charger was plugged in (would go from 'discharging' to 'not charging'. So yeah, I was left stumped. Hopefully somebody else can get this solved for you.
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yeah I tried my Samsung cable as well.
No. Verizon finally sent her a refurb replacement. I got the battery to charge up by taking it out and rigging a charger to it. But the phone still wouldnt accept a charge with the battery back in and it lost the charge it did have 2-3 times faster than normal. Battery Stats also showed the battery was showing a pretty decent voltage so unless the battery itself has a low charge circuit that gets tripped I'd be hesitant to point to the battery itself. And the charger port transfered files just fine and the phone recognized when the charger was plugged in (would go from 'discharging' to 'not charging'. So yeah, I was left stumped. Hopefully somebody else can get this solved for you.
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Just an update: I ended up buying a replacement battery and it fixed the charging issue. I rsd back to stock. Then, playing around with it, I booted to bootloader and selected "Factory" and it immediately booted back to stock, but, the battery had a "?" again. Ready to throw the damn phone against the wall, I rebooted it. The "?" is mysteriously gone. What is the "Factory" setting? I think I tried it before, but had CM10.1 installed. My theory is that this "factory" boot from bootloader actually soft bricked the phone. Either that or the issue was truly the battery and simply replacing it fixed things. I am up and running now, cm10.1 is flawless, imho. Thanks for the quick reply and I hope this helps anyone with similar issues.
Beware of the "Factory" bootloader option...........
Here we go again. Upon a reboot into recovery. Recovery is twrp 2.5. What I notice is the motorola boot img takes an extremely long time (2 minutes) to turn off and cyanogenmod to begin. Could there be something corrupt in the bootloader? Is there any way to reload the bootloader on this device? Anyone have any ideas? Could it be Recovery?