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I was wondering once Android on the hd2 is stable, will it be possible to flash a ROM like we do with wm or will be stuck using haret or the dualboot thing? Or is it too soon to even forecast?
As I understand atm its just running ontop of windows you dont flash android yet, but i guess they will try and get it to work as a rom eventually after they have all the driver issues sorted out and the little niggles there is but don't hold you're breathe for now mate, I wouldn't even like to say if its possible to have it as a main rom,
I believe the devs plan to have android boot from nand. Whether or not they will be successful remains to be seen. I have faith that we will have a good solution in time.
Ok cool to know! I've been running sense all day and im hooked!
Demon_man said:
As I understand atm its just running ontop of windows you dont flash android yet, but i guess they will try and get it to work as a rom eventually after they have all the driver issues sorted out and the little niggles there is but don't hold you're breathe for now mate, I wouldn't even like to say if its possible to have it as a main rom,
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It is not running on top of winmo... haret.exe shuts down the windows kernel and launches the linux kernel. Right now, they need winmo to boot first because winmo initializes a lot of the hardware. Eventually, once they have drivers that can initialize everything on its own, they can boot android from nand, but that will probably take a while. Only 1 or 2 winmo devices out of over a dozen that have android ports have android roms that can be flashed, and thats after years of development.
Personally, I prefer to keep winmo and have the ability to boot android or other linux builds when i want to. I prefer winmo, but also love android and love the fact that i can run both on my phone. Also, booting from nand doesn't really improve performance on any of the other android ports. If I wanted android full-time, I'd get an android phone... and I know some people are going to say there is no android phone with the screen or specs available for their carrier... but I can almost guarantee that by the time we have a flashable rom, there will be plenty of android phones with equal or better specs and screen for your carrier or country. I just don't see the reason to flash and get rid of winmo when you could have the best of both worlds. I guess maybe I'm just a winmo fan, but I don't know why you would have an HD2 if you weren't. Why make your phone just another android phone when you could have a dual-booting power-phone that can run both android and winmo apps. There's no playstation emulator for android!
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It is not running on top of winmo... haret.exe shuts down the windows kernel and launches the linux kernel. Right now, they need winmo to boot first because winmo initializes a lot of the hardware. Eventually, once they have drivers that can initialize everything on its own, they can boot android from nand, but that will probably take a while. Only 1 or 2 winmo devices out of over a dozen that have android ports have android roms that can be flashed, and thats after years of development.
Personally, I prefer to keep winmo and have the ability to boot android or other linux builds when i want to. I prefer winmo, but also love android and love the fact that i can run both on my phone. Also, booting from nand doesn't really improve performance on any of the other android ports. If I wanted android full-time, I'd get an android phone... and I know some people are going to say there is no android phone with the screen or specs available for their carrier... but I can almost guarantee that by the time we have a flashable rom, there will be plenty of android phones with equal or better specs and screen for your carrier or country. I just don't see the reason to flash and get rid of winmo when you could have the best of both worlds. I guess maybe I'm just a winmo fan, but I don't know why you would have an HD2 if you weren't. Why make your phone just another android phone when you could have a dual-booting power-phone that can run both android and winmo apps. There's no playstation emulator for android!
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Well put, I dont think droid is worth no psx games! I understand why people want a nand build though!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=732160
Check out this thread for development.
Personally i prefer this dual boot system.It is simply the best.The advantages are very big for me.There things i like in winmo and dont want to lose. A 2 in 1 device is simply the best combination
Hi guys , has anyone tried to create Android rom for HD2
using Supersonic's ( Evo 4G ) Rom ?
I mean :
- take some parts of Ssonic rom to compare this with existing "pre"Android Rom
for HD2
Some parts should be similar so..... anyone tried ???
Don't tell me about differences hd2->SSonic because i know this.
Answer please.
It would be great if we could have something like grub, with both WinMo and Android installed, and enabling us to select which to boot right after turning the phone on! But I don't see this coming
yeah its too early to know. Imagine having an Android ROM on it that isn't fully compatible and then you get an error that won't let you hard reset or boot to the flash screen. Youd brick your phone! I think it will happen but not for maybe another year and by then I'm sure more high spec phones will be out.
How about somebody figures out how to run a barebones WM and Android on internal memory? Then it would have SD hotswap. I don't know if that is even possible though (probably not).
I've thought about this. with internal memory, I believe it is more stable and speedy than SDcard.
My hd 2 android and my evo
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It is not running on top of winmo... haret.exe shuts down the windows kernel and launches the linux kernel. Right now, they need winmo to boot first because winmo initializes a lot of the hardware. Eventually, once they have drivers that can initialize everything on its own, they can boot android from nand, but that will probably take a while. Only 1 or 2 winmo devices out of over a dozen that have android ports have android roms that can be flashed, and thats after years of development.
Personally, I prefer to keep winmo and have the ability to boot android or other linux builds when i want to. I prefer winmo, but also love android and love the fact that i can run both on my phone. Also, booting from nand doesn't really improve performance on any of the other android ports. If I wanted android full-time, I'd get an android phone... and I know some people are going to say there is no android phone with the screen or specs available for their carrier... but I can almost guarantee that by the time we have a flashable rom, there will be plenty of android phones with equal or better specs and screen for your carrier or country. I just don't see the reason to flash and get rid of winmo when you could have the best of both worlds. I guess maybe I'm just a winmo fan, but I don't know why you would have an HD2 if you weren't. Why make your phone just another android phone when you could have a dual-booting power-phone that can run both android and winmo apps. There's no playstation emulator for android!
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I too prefer the ability boot both WM and Android rather than booting Android exclusively. After using the desire rom for the past couple of days, call me crazy, but it really feels like sense on Windows Mobile with cookies home tab is more streamlined and accessible. Don't get me wrong, I prefer Android over Windows Mobile at the end of the day, but the aging WM OS still has a lot of perks.
What I'd rather see is a solution that allows you to truly dual boot WM and Android, and making jumping in and out of one for the other relatively quick and easy.
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It would be great if we could have something like grub, with both WinMo and Android installed, and enabling us to select which to boot right after turning the phone on! But I don't see this coming
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I don't see how this is all that different than any of the several apps the devs here have created to let you choose after booting whether you want to boot Android (even the build of your choice) or WinMo... I'm running it now and that app works rather flawlessly.
i just cant wait to ahve a nand android on hd2,,, its soo awesome,,,
i have installed the latest 1.7 of froyo..on hd2 qnd it rocks,...only if it were possible to ake it permaert.
now what i wan tis atleat some news from the developers side to show ,, they are still int he works of developing android nand.... no news is such bad news ....
[Q] Simple question - NAND & Android on HD2 - Why we still cannot get working NAND v.
Well, my question is simple :
Why we still dont have NAND version of Android ?
Is it problem with .... drivers or anything else ?
Please tell me what is the problem. Why its so hard to develop working NAND Rom ?
screen orentation sensor makes the screen lag ... and there are still some major bugs
Why is there so much craving for a NAND version?
What's wrong with having Android running from the SDcard?
As long as that still doesn't function 100% (screen/g sensor/footprints in sense etc..), why would you want to have a Nand version? I doubt that that will actually change anything.
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Why is there so much craving for a NAND version?
What's wrong with having Android running from the SDcard?
As long as that still doesn't function 100% (screen/g sensor/footprints in sense etc..), why would you want to have a Nand version? I doubt that that will actually change anything.
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I guess the myth is if it's NAND then battery will be better which I really doubt.
Sorry but it's not an answer.
Many people want to have Nand version and it's their choice , but
it could be a good idea to tell us why there is so many problems
to create this kind of rom.
What parts are missing ....
What needs to be compiled ...
What to repaired...
Need some tech informations about this .
Who knows , many people is to busy to try create whole rom , but
there is many of us who knows programming and could Help .
But if someone will tell us what is a biggest problem ...
Linux was creating by many people , so maybe this time we can find solution together ?
Do a search!
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So what if i will use search.
I will get 2,000 posts with small ammount of answers.
Will be easier if any dev will completly with details
answer this question.
It will stop another 2,000 posts to occur .
Many questions - one answer.
It isn't working because only a handful are working on it while the rest whine and think a lame post begging for an eta will motivate the devs. If you want it done pick up a book and start learning about linux coding. It isn't done yet because nobody tries on their own.
Just because the initial development was lightning quick doesn't guarantee it will all tidily come together at the same rate.
Do you remember what appeared on your HD2 when you first turned it on? Windoze f'ing mobile. Be grateful for what you have.
To motivate the coders even a bit more you could create a "Who will be the 1st Android NAND coder" thread where users can donate cash for the price money.
The 1st coder who does so will win the cash.
Me.. I've donated cash already to some of the coders here, and I can wait till we have a stable good working version.
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To motivate the coders even a bit more you could create a "Who will be the 1st Android NAND coder" thread where users can donate cash for the price money.
The 1st coder who does so will win the cash.
Me.. I've donated cash already to some of the coders here, and I can wait till we have a stable good working version.
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You know ... it could be a great idea .
If someone trusted will keep grand prize for this so why not ???
First person that will make a working rom will get a BIG PRIZE ....
might work .
After testing, if we see that it really works ....
I could donate if someone will start something like this.
I don't know how fair it would be to say the first to make an android would get the prize... Most likely it will be a cook making the rom using the work of many developers. It will be the same group of devs that got android working in the first place that will get it working on nand.... Dcordes, cotulla, netripper, etc... Might as well just donate. I'm sure it will be a group effort by them.
Nand is difficult because we will need a lot of new drivers to initialize the hardware... Right now winmo is used to initialize most hardware for android. I don't understand why you think it shouldn't be difficult... Look at other winmo devices that can run android... Only 2 out of a dozen can even boot from nand... And the nand versions are less functional than the versions run from sd card. It takes a LOT more work to get everything working on its own from nand without winmo to initialize hardware. I would expect the same with the first versions of nand booting for the hd2 also.... It will probably be nowhere near as functional as booting from sd until a lot of development is done. Be patient... It could be a long time before we have a nand bootable android that's anywhere as stable and functional as the sd bootable builds we currently have. I also doubt that speed or battery life will be much better with nand, if at all. We have great speed & batteries with our sd versions already... It will be hard to beat that with new nand versions, especially since many drivers for nand will probably have to be made from scratch. But you never know... We have some great devs and I've already been surprised with what they've accomplished.
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I guess you'll have to wait until the day you hire your own Android HD2 developer, then you can have them working on things that -you- want.
seriously, I'm not being sarcastic. I'm actually pondering about creating some sort of donations thread just to fix particular problems.
But, because this is a community driven effort, we are at the mercy of whatever developers/chefs want to have. If you don't like that, you may want to consider becoming a developer/chef yourself..
klopikxda said:
Well, my question is simple :
Why we still dont have NAND version of Android ?
Is it problem with .... drivers or anything else ?
Please tell me what is the problem. Why its so hard to develop working NAND Rom ?
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I'm actually quite happy with my HD2 running off of SD... It's actually faster than WM 6.5! Everything I have tested works including hotspot. Running mccm 1.5 with chuckydroid ROM
And I have the best of both worlds...Android and WM 6.5!
i was wondering how everybody feels about switching the two oss...place wimo on the sd and run android from nand...so you still have both. because from what ive been reading, having both oss on the nand is out of the question, unless you have a us hd2 that has more internal memory....just a thought
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i was wondering how everybody feels about switching the two oss...place wimo on the sd and run android from nand...so you still have both. because from what ive been reading, having both oss on the nand is out of the question, unless you have a us hd2 that has more internal memory....just a thought
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There is no android app to shut down android and launch windows kernel, so that possibility is very far away if it's even possible. First they would need to get android booting off nand, which is a ways off, then a haret type app would need to be written for android that can launch the window ce kernel, which may be very difficult because windows is not open sourced, and then a version of winmo that will work with that will need to be developed.
I don't see this as being very likely to happen. If you want nand android, you're going to lose winmo.
Personally, I don't see why everyone wants to boot android from nand... It works so well from sd and you get to run multiple os on your phone. And looking at the history of nand booting android on winmo phones, the nand versions are usually less functional and don't really improve speed or battery that much. Doesn't seem worth it to change a multiple os superphone into a subpar android-only phone. But that's just me.
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I guess the simple question would be why? What do you gain from that setup compared to what we have today? You'd still get 2 OSes, but with a -lot- more work I presume.
right?
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i was wondering how everybody feels about switching the two oss...place wimo on the sd and run android from nand...so you still have both. because from what ive been reading, having both oss on the nand is out of the question, unless you have a us hd2 that has more internal memory....just a thought
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I completely understand. I was just curious..Im sure there wouldent be any benefit of nand booting except another option and being able to shut up people from asking about it lol...I personally don't mind android running off the SD card...I have two and I use one as my everyday android build and I use the other for when new builds come out so I can try it out. Pretty sweet if yu ask me I'm sure some type of nand build will b out soon...everyone just needs to be patient
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Meh, I'd rather have our awesome devs working on meaningful things like the touch screen lag...
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I completely understand. I was just curious..Im sure there wouldent be any benefit of nand booting except another option and being able to shut up people from asking about it lol...I personally don't mind android running off the SD card...I have two and I use one as my everyday android build and I use the other for when new builds come out so I can try it out. Pretty sweet if yu ask me I'm sure some type of nand build will b out soon...everyone just needs to be patient
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KrewsialNL said:
Why is there so much craving for a NAND version?
What's wrong with having Android running from the SDcard?
As long as that still doesn't function 100% (screen/g sensor/footprints in sense etc..), why would you want to have a Nand version? I doubt that that will actually change anything.
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footprint works on sense
i prefere sd card over nand ,easy switch between roms ,ihave 4 different roms on my sd card
I have to say, I really don't see what all the hoopla is about.
What does NAND give us that we don't get already?
With SD-based roms, we can change, update, switch, multiboot, and mess around with everything we want without danger to our device. If anything goes wrong, just reboot and be done with it.
With NAND, we run the risk of completely destroying our device (I have been assured that's not the case), not to mention the hassle of updating and changing roms which in itself is a process that can brick the device - (again, I was assured this can not happen).
And with RAM builds, speed and boot isn't an issue anymore.
So what exactly is the big deal?
Please feel free to prove me wrong and provide some 'pros'/'yays' for NAND Android on HD2. The more we know.....
edit: In the meantime, I couldn't resist the temptation and tried out NAND. I take back everything I say, except the 'hassle' part. It's still a lot easier to change around and configure builds with SD based builds.
I don't have my HD2 yet, so it's kinda stupid to comment, but from what I heard RAM builds are not great for gaming.
I too am curious about this. I was about to flash the NAND Desire HD rom, but then thought about how rarely I need to reset my device (and thus wait for the boot-up, which isn't very long to begin with). The rom I'm using is JDMS 1.6.2, and, while I'd really like a RAM version, the thing runs really fast. And yeah, why not keep WM around, just in case it has something worthwhile to boot up with (doubtful... but one never knows). It is nice to just throw on another build and test it out, remove it if I don't like it.
Maybe someone has a good reason to flash the NAND roms... I guess, if JDMS came as one, I'd really like that.
I do, however, appreciate all the work the developers have put into this!
try it man! you will be amazed! Nand version blow every other build! stable fast !
can't give an unbiased view since ive no intention of trying a nand build/ rom.
main reasons:
i still like the option of having 2 OS's (if that's a word?), tho i haven't used winmo for some time i still want the option.
like being able to switch SD builds quickly
like being able to choose what size data img and not have to think about running out of space.
got to say tho... think it's a hugely impressive achievement what DFT have done.
interesting post, i was also thinking whats all the fuss about, but i know for some winmo is dead & buried.
projektk said:
try it man! you will be amazed! Nand version blow every other build! stable fast !
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You'll see the difference.
NAND is amazing, i used to get serious lag when apps are installing/uninstalling.....it took care of that and market download speeds are flying
of course boot time is only seconds. i have tried sd and i have tried NAND.
NAND is better
I flashed nand because I wanted to get rid of WM. Booting Android form the sd card made everything feel unoffical and I hated it. It's strange I know. But Why not flash Android?
Windows mobile is Lame, boring and laggy at most no matter what, specially with the weather in the background, not to mention the lame/limited UN-icandy cheezy app store. Android is pure Icandy with tons and tons of apps/tools with stability and profromance.
What can Windows Mobile do that Android can't?
I would choose WP7 over WM 6.5 and Android over all.
Android Dominates.
Battery Life is also awesome, and download speeds are actually very fast. It's like having an actual Android phone.
also i must say i am disappointed to see a thread like this, on such a day in hd2 history. after dft and the devs have put in 3 plus month of work! this is not the type of threads that should be started....SMH
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also i must say i am disappointed to see a thread like this, on such a day in hd2 history. after dft and the devs have put in 3 plus month of work! this is not the type of threads that should be started....SMH
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Well, I agree that it's an amazing feat, but I don't think it's wrong to have the question posed anyway. Wasn't it DFT that got android working on the HD2 in the first place? So we're not really downplaying all their hard work, just wondering what's better about it.
There's just something cool about being able to tell someone, "Well, I can boot into WM, android, and linux... can your phone do that?" Our phones would seemingly be less unique. Well, whatever, I only use android anyway, so I should just take the plunge.
EDIT: Sorry, I realize that there are a lot of other developers that have gone into making android work. I just can't think of specifics
Pro:
- It's fast and stable. Little perks like slow market download speeds and slow wake-up time right after locking have been solved (although some SD builds had these fixed recently too)
- SD cards are now swappable and mountable (without corruption). I like this since I had a 2GB card laying around which I'd use just to store CoPilot maps on. With Android on SD, that wasn't possible.
- Uniformity across all devices (well, almost). No more different setups for everyone, which didn't exactly easen the process of debugging and smoothing things up. Also no more problems due to SD cards.
- Battery life? Haven't really checked this myself yet.
Cons:
- Not having WinMo. Nothing I care about, I tried WinMO for about 2 days, didn't like it (as I expected) and immediately switched to Android.
- A bit harder to switch builds, but still nothing too hard or time staking. Future easier solutions may appear too.
Overall, I'm very happy with this development. It doesn't bring any shocking innovations in se, but lays the (necessary) path for an even more complete HD2 android experience.
I have installed it and believe me I am really glad I got rid of WM! It's flying and not a single glitch or error so far, I will never go back to WM! And I never had SD android b4 so I can say installation was a breeze. Cheers and grats DFT!
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Yup I'm happy to hear DFT have released Nand but I still stick to RAM build as I can still switch to WinMo & Ubuntu build. It's amazing how things really work with our mighty HD2.
Nothing wrong about Nand build at least HD2 users can choose to use Nand or SD/RAM build.
can you get 2mah from running android on sd card? i dont think so..
Personally I think I'll be keeping android on my SD card for now, because I have peace of mind knowing that I can run WM6.5 (god forbid) if my android build messes up (which I have to say is getting rare, so I might consider NAND in the not-too-distant future)
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The pros for me are that NAND is faster for me in all three builds for their categories, and battery consumption is low.
The cons however, if you're like me and install a good amount of apps say 20 or so, 100mb or so isn't really going to cut it. And for some reason i can't get superuser working, i keep trying to update it but it says it's up to date already, which it clearly is not, and it keeps force closing itself with every app it is required for.
i like the nand personally and i think it very innovative and if u read carefully and take ur time to understand u cant go wrong with the installation i am trying it right now it great and if i need to take my phone back just flash the orginal wm rom got to luv it for those who want to keep dual boot i respect that but u should give nand a shot
I saw it before but am apperantly oblivious to it now; can someone link me to NAND installation instructions? Would be grateful.
I currently have absolutely no liking of WM, so IMO dropping it has been needed for awhile now. The only benefit I've seen is netflix (lol?) and even that should be up for grabs off the android market soon enough. I want speed and battery, and from the sound of it, NAND is taking care of business.
@Truaim - regarding link to NAND install intructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
now it is one week since magldr was released, thanks to DFT.
it was like the end of the year gift to us, we were very happy (and we still happy) because it really bring our HD2 to life again, one day before the release of MAGLDR i was thinking of replacing it with Desire because and that because SD/RAM builds was not stable and even if it is stable it will not last more than one month before start giving FCs etc...
i opened this thread (i hope it is in the correct section, and if it is not i am sorry about that MODs will move it) to share our opinions about nand roms, is it stable as we were expect, are you happy with it or not, if no please let us know why.
for me i am very happy with it till now, it is stable, fast and reliable, and we dont need to boot into 2 os every time we are restarting the phone, and i think HD2 Became an android phone.
I think it's incredible what DFT were able to accomplish. After NAND hit, I sent Cotulla a donation, and have been trying to figure out who else to donate to for their hard work.
As far as NAND, I haven't noticed a major difference in the quality of the builds (SD vs NAND). I think it's probably there, but I'm not technically knowledgeable to notice the difference. I hear some people say the battery life is better, but I still end up plugging my phone in every night to recharge it anyway. The one nice thing the SD builds had was that it was very simple to compare builds in case there were problems with one. I could have one build stored away in a folder called 'Android2' while I dinked around with another build to test things out. It's not a huge deal (and I could probably get Titanium Restore... er, whatever it's called, backup?), but it was simpler to just move around folders.
Anyway, WM sucked so bad, I'm very much happy to rid my phone of it. I'm thankful to all of the developers who made my phone MUCH better than it originally came as (this includes WM ROM developers obviously).
Oh... and I think this thread should've gone into the 'HD2 Android General Discussion' section.
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Oh... and I think this thread should've gone into the 'HD2 Android General Discussion' section.
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Guess MODS have to do some extra work
moved
Very much agree. For 1, wrong forum. This is development not 'how do you like this new feature'. More, 'how do we make this new feature work'.
Anyway, I love the NAND, and you are right, the SD was alot more convient to test and use new builds. Copy the folder and launch. Cant get easier than that indefinitly.
Although, the SDcard is not made to be read/written that many times. The SDcard itself, AND the SD reader in the phone were not made to be used that much.
The hardware im sure has got ALOT better since the G1 days, but this is exactly how my G1 died. Back in the day we used the SD to swap files, and used the ext3/4 to give the G1 a boost. Needless to say, the phone wouldnt read ANY sd card after like 8 months I think it was. Thats when I had to get a new phone because we had it so you needed the SDcard to flash a new build and w.out it, the phone could never be updated.
So my opinion? The phones come with NAND for a reason. Lets use it . Use MyBackup or Titanium and youll be okay. The flash doesnt take too long, AND its just like a REGULAR ANDROID .
THANKS DEVELOPERS! You saved me $500 and my SDcard slot.
Well, well, well. Happy to leave my comment here 'bout NAND.. This is Dream come true and the best that ever happened to my lovely HD2. With NAND, my HD2 has been on daily use without any single fault or malfunction. It works very well and the battery life is very very very GOOD. I really don't know how to start thankin' DFT and all those who put their efforts, ideas, time, compromise and and and.. THANKSSSSSSSSS. I'm done with testing NAND and now up toooooooo Donate. They deserve it.
I have not noticed any difference with nand, all the same issues still exist, but now its more inconvenient to change builds, mod system files, change kernels, etc.. Battery life is no different compared to SD. Boot time is not shorter compared to dual boot with EBL. From a developing stand point magldr is a milestone, but from a usability/practical point, its underwhelming. I think RAM smokes nand by far and wish more development is put towards RAM. I'm anxiously waiting for DS's nand+ram.
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I have not noticed any difference with nand, all the same issues still exist, but now its more inconvenient to change builds, mod system files, change kernels, etc.. Battery life is no different compared to SD. Boot time is not shorter compared to dual boot with EBL. From a developing stand point magldr is a milestone, but from a usability/practical point, its underwhelming. I think RAM smokes nand by far and wish more development is put towards RAM. I'm anxiously waiting for DS's nand+ram.
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Just nit picking a little, but there will never be a "nand + ram" as you say. The ram build loads the build into ram memory, thereby making it analogous to the rom memory. In nand, the build uses ram in much the same way your normal computer does. Therefore, even if it was possible to do a nand/ram build (anything is possible for darkstone, really), I don't see the benefit because you would have less ram to work with, and rom read/write speed is actually slower than many sd card read/write speeds.
Back to topic! Only time will tell, but i think the best thing about nand is, as another user pointed out earlier, data stability. So tired of having to reload apps after a week or two because the build craps out on me.
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not a dream come true for me, but i am happy to be able to be able to copy files through the usb cable without having to reboot afterwards.
no,
it wasn't what i expected, i tought it would delete hspl.
but it didn't, it's even better like this.
it's amazingly stable.
i'm statified, expect that my data wasn't working yesterday[ppp]
hopefully that won't come along.
but if i have to restart it every night to fix it i'm fine
Im loving MAGLDR and what it has brung to the table but there iw one disappointment in that as far as I can remember it was said by cotulla or somebody else that we would have option of keeping WinMO on NAND and booting Android from SD via MAGLDR instead of via WM.
I kind of liked the idea of having that additional option also.
But its no big loss really and im just happy to have the ability to boot directly into android
TheATHEiST said:
Im loving MAGLDR and what it has brung to the table but there iw one disappointment in that as far as I can remember it was said by cotulla or somebody else that we would have option of keeping WinMO on NAND and booting Android from SD via MAGLDR instead of via WM.
I kind of liked the idea of having that additional option also.
But its no big loss really and im just happy to have the ability to boot directly into android
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That was my biggest disappointment about it, too. But it lists booting wm65 under future developments, so hopefully soon it will have that capability. I'm happy that he released the nand Android part of it for the community.
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My phone has never run this good. Nand is absolutely amazing.
My phone stays unplugged longer and runs better. What isn't to like?
Currently unplugged 13 hours and still at 50% sd builds never came close to that.
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about the only problem with magldr is the usb charging bug (big problem!)
and difficulty with clockwork recovery
hoping both are fixed soon
wm7 seems already future supported and WM 6.5 can rot in hell
magldr made me buy the hd2
I'm satisfied with NAND. SD versions were a ton of fun to test and switch, which I did like crazy....however I've found a NAND flavor that is deathly fast, stable on which everything works (TMOUS) and battery life is better than average.
can i just ask - what would be the point of MAGLDR having a WM 6.5 boot feature if a 6.5 rom boots just fine without magldr? its not like WM will run from SD card..... ?
it would be a pain for WM chefs (me included) to re-tool and create MAGLDR compatible ROMS when our current methods work just fine. Remember, MAGLDR is just a flash away at any rate.....
Yes !!! I got my expectings pleased with nand and all the things are working on mdeejays HD Revolution,and battery is so good-i might say-better than with winmo on it...
Thanx to DFT for MAGLDR and mdeejay for all the goodies with his roms
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can i just ask - what would be the point of MAGLDR having a WM 6.5 boot feature if a 6.5 rom boots just fine without magldr? its not like WM will run from SD card..... ?
it would be a pain for WM chefs (me included) to re-tool and create MAGLDR compatible ROMS when our current methods work just fine. Remember, MAGLDR is just a flash away at any rate.....
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Because with magldr, you can have it boot directly into Android on your SD card without having to go into winmo first.
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In my opnion yes..
VERY satisfied with NAND. No more wake up lag or during call black screen, which was pretty much the trouble I was having with SD and RAM builds.
Thx DFT!
It seems as if the HD2 forum for the people who would use SD cards for their Android builds is dying, if not dead already due to NAND. I came from a previous Android phone, having to plug in my phone to get the builds and flash them to my phone. I like to see developers going back to the SD scene.
Me too. If it makes you feel any better I'm trying to convert some nand builds to SD but I'm having trouble and they wont boot.
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The rush to NAND builds seems really stupid to me. With SD you have the best of both worlds. You can flip-flop between operating systems on the fly. I still use the WM6.5 but I like to play with Android, why should I have to give up either.
Come on developers, keep up the good work with SD builds. My ideal senario would be to have WM, Android & WP7 on the same phone at the same time and choose the one I want that moment...
SR
sorry to break it to you but sd is not in demand anymore, nand has better battery life and overall performance plus clockwork recovery going for it but i think it will pick back up once mag can boot wm6.5 and android from sd without the extra things u have to do, most people aren't that tech savvy with android so they are waiting for an update from mag...
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The rush to NAND builds seems really stupid to me. With SD you have the best of both worlds. You can flip-flop between operating systems on the fly. I still use the WM6.5 but I like to play with Android, why should I have to give up either.
Come on developers, keep up the good work with SD builds. My ideal senario would be to have WM, Android & WP7 on the same phone at the same time and choose the one I want that moment...
SR
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Deal with you... i hope someday from one menu...we able choose any os we want to run...
1. winmo 6.5
2. winmo 7
3. Android
4. Ubuntu
5. Meego
6. others...
ha ha ha....if that came true... i will keep this phone forever....