ok so I have been reading and what not... I have searched far and wide but still don't quite understand. But anyways here's my question.
Pros and cons of going to the other hboot?
Is there any reason to change my radio version? Will it benefit me at all?
is this idea of the way the phone works kind correct?
The phone starts up, hboot will load up the os files (which is my royalginger rom I installed)
So changing the hboot ver is like changing your BIOS ver on a computer motherboard.
now, what kind of tech is actually in this phone... A proc, graphics proc, memory, some storage space. Can any of these parts be modified, upgraded, or even touched? Or is it all permanently on the phones main chip.
And the last question. I know its possible to overclock phones.. But what is the best way to do it? Like, on my computer I never oc using software, always do it through the bios. But what's the best way on the glacier?
Thanks for answering any of these ?s... It'll all help me better understand my phone and how it works and I would like to learn this stuff well so I can help people out on this forum someday soon
To overclock:
1. Flash overclock kernal.
2. Install setcpu from market.
3. Go crazy.
4. You didn't search far and wide enough.
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Gopher love said:
Pros and cons of going to the other hboot?
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the .85 hboot will allow you to flash any part of a ROM, wipe any partition on the phone, and install recovery images from the Engineering scree. It helps you to not brick your phone. There have been a couple of people on this forum that would of bricked their device if they didn't have it.
Is there any reason to change my radio version? Will it benefit me at all?
is this idea of the way the phone works kind correct?
Gopher love said:
The phone starts up, hboot will load up the os files (which is my royalginger rom I installed)
So changing the hboot ver is like changing your BIOS ver on a computer motherboard.
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IIRC the HBoot would be similar to a BIOS. It physically loads the OS. However i've never changed a BIOS on a Windows Computer so i cannot tell you.
Gopher love said:
now, what kind of tech is actually in this phone... A proc, graphics proc, memory, some storage space. Can any of these parts be modified, upgraded, or even touched? Or is it all permanently on the phones main chip.
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It's all soldered into the main board and cannot be tampered with unless you feel like soldering, writing a kernel and a new OS.
Gopher love said:
And the last question. I know its possible to overclock phones.. But what is the best way to do it? Like, on my computer I never oc using software, always do it through the bios. But what's the best way on the glacier?
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The best way to over clock a ROM is to download and install a kernel. You will need a program similar to SetCPU to manage the speed. If you should download Cyanogen(mod)'s CM7.x it will have a overclocking kernel natively.
Gopher love said:
Thanks for answering any of these ?s... It'll all help me better understand my phone and how it works and I would like to learn this stuff well so I can help people out on this forum someday soon
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No problem, feel free to ask question and use the search alot of stuff as already been hit on.
well as far as the radio goes, some people (such as myself) have reported a better signal by flashing the newer radio, i noticed between 1-2 bar increase within the same spot in my room
smatthew45 said:
well as far as the radio goes, some people (such as myself) have reported a better signal by flashing the newer radio, i noticed between 1-2 bar increase within the same spot in my room
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With the caveat that, not always but often, better a radio with better signal will come at the expense of battery life.
screw up your bios and you pull the cmos battery, unplug the power supply and you're fine. screw up the radio or hboot and you have nothing to fall back on. A phone is a lot like a pc, without all of the fallback and replaceable parts.
I've been using the engineering radio for a few weeks now, no complaints, was worth the simple flash.
1. ok so to overclock I flash an overclock kernel. Can I flash in a new kernel without changing to a different rom (as in can I keep my royalginger thing I flashed in)
2. By installing the engineering hboot I can change any part of the rom. Does this mean I can do the above? Change my kernel without changing the whole rom?
3. A newer radio has the potential to increase my signal?
4. I've been searching for a while and still can't figure out the difference between an asop, sense, etc types of roms?
You guys are an amazing help... Thank you so much
Gopher love said:
1. ok so to overclock I flash an overclock kernel. Can I flash in a new kernel without changing to a different rom (as in can I keep my royalginger thing I flashed in)
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YES. You need to make sure that you use a AOSP ROM kernel or a Sense Kernel. I'm not 100% sure about Royal Ginger. I believe it's AOSP but you'll want to double check
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2. By installing the engineering hboot I can change any part of the rom. Does this mean I can do the above? Change my kernel without changing the whole rom?
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Yes. But you can flash kernels w/o needing the E-hBoot. You can flash them from the recovery. and not they will not mess with anything.
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3. A newer radio has the potential to increase my signal?
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Yes some people are reporting that.
Gopher love said:
4. I've been searching for a while and still can't figure out the difference between an asop, sense, etc types of roms?
You guys are an amazing help... Thank you so much
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AOSP = Android Open Source Project. Look at the G2 for an idea. Cyanogen has AOSP style UI, but they throw some extra options in.
Sense = HTC Skin. It's what the Droid Inc, Desire, come with
MotoBlur = Motorola's Skin all of the Moto Droid line & the Cliq come with
Espresso / MySense = T-Mobile's custom Skin for the MyTouch 4G
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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Kernels are based on the style of skin that you are using. We uses either Sense or AOSP. You need to know what type of ROM you are using, and flash the correct kernel. Meaning you cannot use a AOSP kernel on a Sense ROM. So make sure you know what RoyalGinger is prior to digging though Kernels.
Is there a way to confirm or verify if I have engineering boot installed?
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power off, hold power and volume down together. 0.86 is default, 0.85 is engineering.
darinmc said:
power off, hold power and volume down together. 0.86 is default, 0.85 is engineering.
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Could you explain how the eng hboot can help me not brick my phone?
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Could you explain how the eng hboot can help me not brick my phone?
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Because it will allow you flash, wipe, or load specific sections of your ROM or allow you to reflash recovery images if one should fail. most people will never encounter this but it's a good failsafe to have on your phone.
neidlinger said:
Because it will allow you flash, wipe, or load specific sections of your ROM or allow you to reflash recovery images if one should fail. most people will never encounter this but it's a good failsafe to have on your phone.
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So if i ever have an issue like some people are having where recovery says something like "cannot mount cache" causing the flashing to not work, I can fix that through the eng hboot?
Gopher love said:
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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faux's kernels clearing state which rom they will work for, so pick a rom, then pick a kernel if you want, overclocking isnt really necessary on our phones since its plenty fast already
btw royalginger is based on cm7 which is based on aosp
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So if i ever have an issue like some people are having where recovery says something like "cannot mount cache" causing the flashing to not work, I can fix that through the eng hboot?
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i assume it would depend on the exact reason why it stop reading the cache partition. I do know i've see a few threads where people flashed a different recovery image and was able to re flash a ROM and getting it work. But then again it'd all depend on why it failed.
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faux's kernels clearing state which rom they will work for, so pick a rom, then pick a kernel if you want, overclocking isnt really necessary on our phones since its plenty fast already
btw royalginger is based on cm7 which is based on aosp
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Yea.. The phone is plenty fast.. But that's just me.. i like to see how much father I can push it.
Is there a newer version of eng hboot above 0.85
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While we're on the subject of radios, where can I download the latest version for mt4g
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Just got my Desire Z today & as much as i love it I hate sense. I'm using ADD.Launcher atm to try & hide it but I still get there crappy apps.
So my question is, which is the best ROM to flash my phone to get to Vanilla Android?
Thanks in advance
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cyanogenmod rom... Its amazing... has probably the most support cause there are soo many users
Try Cyanogen. Check out the thread in the G2 dev forum, where there's loads of activity (the thread on the DZ side is pretty dead).
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
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KarlosTheJackal said:
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
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According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
steviewevie said:
According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
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'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
Edit:Spelling errors lol
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I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
Andre
KarlosTheJackal said:
'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
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If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
andrewilley said:
I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
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You'll lose all the HTC apps. So if you like any of them, maybe you won't like a stock Android ROM ?
Have a look at HTC's spec sheet on the DZ, which does list all their add-on apps and widgets too, that should give you an idea - http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html
But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
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But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
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This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
catachresistant said:
This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
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I have to say that I'm a Sense fan. I can't fault it over stock Android (aside from the slight performance overhead, which is a non-issue if you overclock).
Vanilla Android - awful camera, contacts, dialler, ugly as hell, launcher looks nice but is plain annoying cos it doesn't fling more than a few lines, you don't get the Sense weather animations which I think are awesome eyecandy for showing off your phone to other people, Sense widgets are all generally pretty, the list goes on...
But ultimately that is MY preference, and the awesome thing about Android is you can customise it to fit your preferences. Try vanilla out - you have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain
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If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Thank you so much for all of that! A lot of help & explained enough for me to start learning
You sir have my first ever 'Thanks' on here.
steviewevie said:
If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
This topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390&highlight=gfree talks about using 'gfree' & 'visionary' & seams like a very easy & straight forward way of gaining root access.
n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
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Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
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n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
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Yep, a lot of people seem to run Visionary and end up stuck in a boot loop or similar. I've never seen any problem like that with rage, the worst that seems to happen is it just doesn't work (but the phone is still fine), and that's usually because a command hasn't been typed in correctly or an error message came up and the user didn't realise it was important.
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Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
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Excellent ! Well done
i mean ive paid 600 dollars for this phone because i always wanted the latest updates from google. and now its kind of getting boring lol. i was just wondering is it worth rooting? what are the advantages. and is there "odin" to this phone like there was for vibrant. meaning is this unbrickable also? and what is the best rom out there for nexus s.
and also what if i have custom rom and can i go back to stock and still get google updates ota?
Root gives you access to custom kernels that can overclock and give you voodoo sound (awesome) but you must be aware it is not prefect yet...but I enjoy the niggles and when fixes are made by our clever devs the roms are cool...all a bit different and you will always get latest android anyway through these. It is up to you if you want a nexus that evolves and improves beyond what Google imagined....but you gotta put up with a few reboots, force closes and reflashings along the way. I personally am a bit obsessed....now where is that next super kernel!
Plus I should add that as I understand you would have to try hard to brick it. Always do a nandroid backup and your covered....back up your present stock rom and its always there to return to.
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Plus I should add that as I understand you would have to try hard to brick it. Always do a nandroid backup and your covered....back up your present stock rom and its always there to return to.
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cool thanks.. whats the rom you are using? and i am not a fan of oc kernals. i think they eat battery. its bad enough on android as it is lol. hows the battery life on custom roms?
2012iawait said:
cool thanks.. whats the rom you are using? and i am not a fan of oc kernals. i think they eat battery. its bad enough on android as it is lol. hows the battery life on custom roms?
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I ran MoDaCo for a bit with Netarchy's kernel and I must say, the battery life was better than no OC. If you don't want to run the overclock, you can install SetCPU and clock it down to 1GHz while adding the VooDoo sound drivers and the better battery life.
If I may throw my two cents in, I rooted my Nexus S but didn't really see a need personally to try roms or over-clocked kernels. Coming from the Captivate, I find this phone to be way superior in terms of speed and performance. So I don't see a need for myself to flash any roms or kernels at this time. That being said, there are advantages to rooting, if only to change or add apps that require root.. Case in point, I installed (after having to push it through adb) Keyboard Manager, which enables you to use different keyboards depending on the orientation of your phone. Only by having root access can you install apps like that. So i definitely see a purpose for rooting other than flashing roms/kernels. Luckily, it's relatively easy to return to stock if needed.
It's absolutely worth it to root. I can't stress it enough. Right now its slow, and may not seem worth it till cyan gets all the extras into his ROM, and more kernels and ROM's pop up. But once that happens, it is a must have to root.
I'm running Cm7 Build 24 with a Trinity 1.0 ghz Kernal. Great work! props to the devs.
Installing custom roms and being able to customize my phone is what I love about android. I used to be a Iphone user, owned every single model.
cm7 is a wonderful rom.
Yes.
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Root gives you access to custom kernels that can overclock and give you voodoo sound (awesome) but you must be aware it is not prefect yet...but I enjoy the niggles and when fixes are made by our clever devs the roms are cool...all a bit different and you will always get latest android anyway through these. It is up to you if you want a nexus that evolves and improves beyond what Google imagined....but you gotta put up with a few reboots, force closes and reflashings along the way. I personally am a bit obsessed....now where is that next super kernel!
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i am not familiar with voodoo sound. what is that? i actually never witnessed a random reboot on my nexus s. may be because its stock
chrisharmful said:
If I may throw my two cents in, I rooted my Nexus S but didn't really see a need personally to try roms or over-clocked kernels. Coming from the Captivate, I find this phone to be way superior in terms of speed and performance. So I don't see a need for myself to flash any roms or kernels at this time. That being said, there are advantages to rooting, if only to change or add apps that require root.. Case in point, I installed (after having to push it through adb) Keyboard Manager, which enables you to use different keyboards depending on the orientation of your phone. Only by having root access can you install apps like that. So i definitely see a purpose for rooting other than flashing roms/kernels. Luckily, it's relatively easy to return to stock if needed.
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I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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ruben8448 said:
I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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its in the themes and apps section of Android Hacking here on XDA. Give a quick search and you'll find it.
2012iawait said:
i am not familiar with voodoo sound. what is that? i actually never witnessed a random reboot on my nexus s. may be because its stock
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voodoo sound is a repository that makes the sound 1000 times better
ruben8448 said:
I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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As someone stated, it's in the App forum, just search Keyboard Manager. Fair warning, I had issues installing it so had to push it through adb, as I stated in my post. It worked wonderfully and was able to switch between keyboards no problem, great if you have several keyboards installed.
i m on 2.3.2 can i still root? i downloaded the android 2.3 sdk and trying to follow the guide but there is no usb drivers in that sdk. where do i get it from?
chrisharmful said:
As someone stated, it's in the App forum, just search Keyboard Manager. Fair warning, I had issues installing it so had to push it through adb, as I stated in my post. It worked wonderfully and was able to switch between keyboards no problem, great if you have several keyboards installed.
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Awesome thanks guys. Ill look for it and try it out. Much appreciated
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guys i have rooted and unlocked my nexus s but after a reboot i loose the clockwork image is that normal? and can i flash a rom now/
that honestly shouldn't even be a question android = open source, open source = custom kernels,custom roms,custom everything basically....android = made to be rooted...
2012iawait said:
guys i have rooted and unlocked my nexus s but after a reboot i loose the clockwork image is that normal? and can i flash a rom now/
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Yes this is normal its a safety precaution install rom manager and everytime you want to go to recovery without having to reflash in bootloader just go into rom manager and hit go to recovery or hold power button reboot then recovery and you will get to clockword
2012iawait said:
i m on 2.3.2 can i still root? i downloaded the android 2.3 sdk and trying to follow the guide but there is no usb drivers in that sdk. where do i get it from?
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Follow my guide, the full one is available here (my blog) http://completeandroid.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/complete-guide-to-rooting-the-nexus-s/
or the XDA thread version (doesn't have pictures) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935819
Basically you have to run the SDK manager and install the USB drivers separately, and also install the PDAnet software for extra drivers (I found it helps when using connecting to the NS in fastboot mode).
Custom kernels are evolving...massive overclock or an undervolted battery saver are available. If you got the time and inclination you can try every combo of rom/kernel going....and always have your stock rom only a recovery away.
I am totally new to this and I got my Wildfire couple of weeks ago. English is not my native language so excuse me if I write something wrong but I hope that you will understand my request. I dont really understand this rooting and flashin custom roms and everything, so I have few questions :
1.) What is rooting ? I read that it means accessing root directory but I dont fully understand that.
2.) Custom roms, what do I really get with them ?
3.) Kernel, what is that ?
4.) Can OC and flashing custom rom's be harmfull for my phone ? Can something blow up ?
5.) Is it possible to change language of my phone to croatian with those custom roms ? I tried with morelocale and apps simillar to that, but it translates only half of the interface.
I would be very gratefull if someone could explain these terms to me into the smallest details so I could understand everything. Thank you.
anyone ? pleasee
Well not a techie myself but there is a thread generally explains this in the Android forum of you look for it.
Rooting means opening access to the system file on the phone that is normally not accessible this let's you change files and system attribute like themes etc. And mods that let's you install from sdcard.
Kernal is the instructions to the CPU how it should work.
Oveclocking are predefined or scaled instructions to make the CPU run at higher speed than the default in stock roms, available on custom roms only, will make the system smoother less waiting loading times. It will generate more heat than normal but hardly will blow anything up.
Custom roms are tweaked versions of sense or original android, they include functions like app2sd, most useful as it puts files to SD card and work with the phone releasing resource so you can install many more apps. Of course downside is SD card is operating more decreasing its life but depends on the card reliability and good branded ones these days they last for years.
As for you language you should read the Rom threads.
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1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooting_(Android_OS)
2: Read the ROM thread. More often than not, the features are listed there. There is no specific answer as to what you get by installing Custom ROM's. It differs from ROM to ROM. Some offer performance, some offer stability and so on.
3: The interface which controls the hardware, basically. It is a modified form of Linux kernel, and, to know what a kernel does, you can look it up on Wikipedia.
4: No, it cant blow up. That being said, it is not recommended to keep the phone OC'ed 24x7 at very high values. A moderate OC doesnt have any negative effects, with maybe a reduction in the lifespan of the hardware, but, IMO, that will be seen over a very long period of time.
5: No idea, sorry. Never required any other language apart from English myself.
1.) Rooting is simply "HACKING" your phone so you can put whatever you'd like to on it (Custom ROMs and such).
2.) Better battery life, more customization and such.
3.) Too deep, but in simple words kernel is the base of the OS running in your phone (apperently Android is UNIX based).
4.) Small risks only, if you're doing something wrong. I didn't get any problem myself though.
5.) Yes. Not fully as said, but yes.
hmmm I think that I understand everything now. Thank you all for the given informations.
and I have one more question : does anyone know for how long will I have to wait until I can root my 2.2 Froyo ?
karacic said:
and I have one more question : does anyone know for how long will I have to wait until I can root my 2.2 Froyo ?
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Till unrEVOked gets the HBOOT cracked again (no specific date )
To change the cpu power and make the battery long lasting one i rooted my phone do i need to install a custom rom or theres an app i can just install on original sense to manage cpu and battery like from custom roms?
raniero1 said:
To change the cpu power and make the battery long lasting one i rooted my phone do i need to install a custom rom or theres an app i can just install on original sense to manage cpu and battery like from custom roms?
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You just need SetCPU. Since you are not looking to overclock, you don't require another kernel or a Custom ROM.
raniero1 said:
To change the cpu power and make the battery long lasting one i rooted my phone do i need to install a custom rom or theres an app i can just install on original sense to manage cpu and battery like from custom roms?
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If you're looking at underclocking be careful as not enough CPU power will cause lag and freezes.
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ZooMas said:
Till unrEVOked gets the HBOOT cracked again (no specific date )
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ok thanks, I thought that maybe someon knows that it will be done in month or some specific time.
karacic said:
ok thanks, I thought that maybe someon knows that it will be done in month or some specific time.
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Nope. No one has an ETA, and this holds true for (mostly) all dev related work / releases like this, Not just unrevoked.
I thought it was like that, but there is no harm in asking I hope that it will be soon because I want new rom because official is disaster.
Hi,
I'm looking for best sense for g1. My requirements are backlight, android 2.1+, good battery life, fast, stable. Which rom had what I won't? Does maybe better on 1.5 android? I'm waiting for a reply
I second this, I would like Sense too, anyone?
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Youleck said:
Hi,
I'm looking for best sense for g1. My requirements are backlight, android 2.1+, good battery life, fast, stable. Which rom had what I won't? Does maybe better on 1.5 android? I'm waiting for a reply
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[just a thought]
may be consider buying a new phone
[/just a thought]
not sure how far along you are with your G1.. i assume its rooted haha but the best sense rom i've used to date would have to be zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HERO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670414
but with this rom you need to have the latest radio and hboot: 2.22.28.25, 1.33.0013d. this rom has most of the latest features and all those sense widgets we all love so much. If anyone knows of a better rom i would love to try it but as of now thats the best i know of. also if you need help flashing it DO ask questions before trying something you are unsure of.. because there's always that possibility of bricking your beloved G1. and we dont want that now do we..? haha feel free to ask me anything you need..
ldrifta said:
not sure how far along you are with your G1.. i assume its rooted haha but the best sense rom i've used to date would have to be zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HERO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670414
but with this rom you need to have the latest radio and hboot: 2.22.28.25, 1.33.0013d. this rom has most of the latest features and all those sense widgets we all love so much. If anyone knows of a better rom i would love to try it but as of now thats the best i know of. also if you need help flashing it DO ask questions before trying something you are unsure of.. because there's always that possibility of bricking your beloved G1. and we dont want that now do we..? haha feel free to ask me anything you need..
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Now I have froyobylaszlo with radio 2.22.27.08 and hboot 1.33.0013d. I changed ROMs many times on my G1 and I know what I must do.
So. zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HER? But with android 1.5 ar 2.1 ?
ldrifta said:
not sure how far along you are with your G1.. i assume its rooted haha but the best sense rom i've used to date would have to be zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HERO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670414
but with this rom you need to have the latest radio and hboot: 2.22.28.25, 1.33.0013d. this rom has most of the latest features and all those sense widgets we all love so much. If anyone knows of a better rom i would love to try it but as of now thats the best i know of. also if you need help flashing it DO ask questions before trying something you are unsure of.. because there's always that possibility of bricking your beloved G1. and we dont want that now do we..? haha feel free to ask me anything you need..
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any ideas about google services in zx 2.1 hero?
i had flashed this rom and i found that i cannot sync with google
andychan27 said:
any ideas about google services in zx 2.1 hero?
i had flashed this rom and i found that i cannot sync with google
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uhhhmmm im not sure why that would be but i did notice some of the roms dont come with gmail on it so you may have to download the actual gmail app... if not than try reflashing.. because i didnt have that issue.. not sure if it is a huge difference but i also had the 28.25 radio not the 27.08.. also i know it sounds dumb but you actually do have to wait like 10 minutes after the service provider pops up when you first flash.. i recomend following the steps on the rom link exact!! but i know my google services worked when i had it so maybe jus try a reflash if its still not working... sorry for your trouble.. im gonna re flash the rom now so i can see if i find anything...
Youleck said:
Now I have froyobylaszlo with radio 2.22.27.08 and hboot 1.33.0013d. I changed ROMs many times on my G1 and I know what I must do.
So. zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HER? But with android 1.5 ar 2.1 ?
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it should be 2.1 if im not mistaken... my friend just got the 4g evo and this rom can almost do everything that phone does... almost.. lol it's just the G1 is older and slower so you must be careful on how many widgets you use and jus keep an eye out for your basic memory drains.. i reccomend apps2sd
here's a link to another pretty cool sense rom http://www.youtube.com/user/ANDROIDZ13 this kid makes roms on his spare time and there not too bad looking.. not sure if they are OFFICIAL yet but i give him props for doing what he does.. only thing is not sure what radio and hboot are required for his roms... im trying to get a hold of em to find out, once i do ill spread the details with the rest of you, but for now take a look at his latest sense rom and some of his previous work and dont be shy to give thanks.. (the download links are in the descriptions of the videos's, click the more info button..)
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here's a link to another pretty cool sense rom http://www.youtube.com/user/ANDROIDZ13 this kid makes roms on his spare time and there not too bad looking.. not sure if they are OFFICIAL yet but i give him props for doing what he does.. only thing is not sure what radio and hboot are required for his roms... im trying to get a hold of em to find out, once i do ill spread the details with the rest of you, but for now take a look at his latest sense rom and some of his previous work and dont be shy to give thanks.. (the download links are in the descriptions of the videos's, click the more info button..)
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I saw this ROM, but it's on 1.5 Android. I found this on 2.1 android : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-pY234Q_KQ , but with out backlights (
Youleck said:
I saw this ROM, but it's on 1.5 Android. I found this on 2.1 android : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-pY234Q_KQ , but with out backlights (
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haha yeah i tried that one too and the animations for the clock widget are messed up lol in all honesty the G1 is gonna run hard with all the goodies your looking for so you might have to give up some of those features for it to run smooth... other than that i would use the zx2.1 possibly the best i used so far that has all the eye candy... but i recomend the one i posted earlier bcuz it will run a lil smoother without all the newer stuff like market and photo apk. jus my opinion..
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uhhhmmm im not sure why that would be but i did notice some of the roms dont come with gmail on it so you may have to download the actual gmail app... if not than try reflashing.. because i didnt have that issue.. not sure if it is a huge difference but i also had the 28.25 radio not the 27.08.. also i know it sounds dumb but you actually do have to wait like 10 minutes after the service provider pops up when you first flash.. i recomend following the steps on the rom link exact!! but i know my google services worked when i had it so maybe jus try a reflash if its still not working... sorry for your trouble.. im gonna re flash the rom now so i can see if i find anything...
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Never mind and thank you for your suggestions.. sync of contact might be not a big issue for daily use as i saved my contact in SIM card already.
Maybe i will flash it again in this weekend...=]
P.S. sry for my poor english
andychan27 said:
Never mind and thank you for your suggestions.. sync of contact might be not a big issue for daily use as i saved my contact in SIM card already.
Maybe i will flash it again in this weekend...=]
P.S. sry for my poor english
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haha no problem.. my only question tho is if you have the actual gmail app? you might have to get the normal gapps in the market like maps and gmail.. i dont remember if there's a gapps pack with the rom but thats wat it sounds like to me.. anyway your welcome and happy flashing!!
Hello, sorry to everyone that has been reading this and followed my previous link. the best hero sense rom out there for the G1 at this time is here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183 if you MUST have Sense...
Note: you must be on latest radio, & hboot 2.22.28.07/25.28-1.33.0013d
the instructions may seem intimidating but i will leave links for every item you need here.. than just follow the instuctions exactly as follows..
1. enter recovery and wipe cache,data,system
2. Flash FR_Recovery_v1.5.6
3. Wipe cache,data,system
4. reboot but back into recovery
5. Flash Rom
6. Flash FR_BOOT
7. Reboot phone and enjoy ^
MTDpartmap- http://www.4shared.com/document/PG3DNFeX/mtdpartmap.html
Hero4.5fixed- http://www.4shared.com/file/IpGMuPwm/herov45_fixed.html
FR-Recovery- http://www.4shared.com/file/oqhzftJO/FR-recovery-v156-CustomMTD_S.html
FR-Boot- http://www.4shared.com/file/Ys5_L_SW/FR-boot-v157-CustomMTD_S.html
Updates!!??
hey xillius has been updating that hero rom if anyone's interested.. check up on his page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183 he's doing some great work to this rom don't forget to thank him..
need help
hi , im a newbie with all the sense roms Ive only flashed sense roms without the mtds because, the whole setup seemed hard and i couldn't figure it out could some one make a video or something id appreciate it. i would like to install the sense ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183
got an error followed steps on top but didn't work didnt know what to do with the mtd text help
jumpman707 said:
hi , im a newbie with all the sense roms Ive only flashed sense roms without the mtds because, the whole setup seemed hard and i couldn't figure it out could some one make a video or something id appreciate it. i would like to install the sense ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183
got an error followed steps on top but didn't work didnt know what to do with the mtd text help
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I think this rom didnt require MTD at all
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574526
That's a 1.5(cupcake) rom not froyo,eclair,ginger,etc. But it's one of the best for the ol G1
jumpman707 said:
hi , im a newbie with all the sense roms Ive only flashed sense roms without the mtds because, the whole setup seemed hard and i couldn't figure it out could some one make a video or something id appreciate it. i would like to install the sense ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183
got an error followed steps on top but didn't work didnt know what to do with the mtd text help
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you already have 2.22.28.25 and 1.33.0013d? than its very simple ...
download these files
fr boot http://www.4shared.com/file/Ys5_L_SW/FR-boot-v157-CustomMTD_S.html
fr recovery http://www.4shared.com/file/oqhzftJO/FR-recovery-v156-CustomMTD_S.html
mtdtxt http://www.4shared.com/document/PG3DNFeX/mtdpartmap.html
superwipe http://www.4shared.com/file/svHOekxy/Ohsaka-SuperWipe_v2.html
put all these files on root of your sd card including the rom .zip file and follow the steps provided on the post
1. enter recovery and wipe cache,data,system
2. Flash FR_Recovery_v1.5.6
3. Wipe cache,data,system
4. reboot but back into recovery
5. Flash Rom
6. Flash FR_BOOT
17. Reboot phone and enjoy ^^
done
hope this helps
Hi everyone,
I recently flashed cyanogenmod 7.2 onto my HTC Wildfire and it kept restarting for an odd reason, I restored back to SplashMOD and it still has the same problem. I've turned 3G off and it seems to be fine, its just when I turn 3G on
Any help?
Maybe you overclocked your phone at 768MHz.... it isn't very stable
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Yeah i had the same problem
Just flash the latest radio, that fixed the problem for me
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I haven't overclocked it, where and how do I update the radio?
See the complete wildfire index thread in the development section.
It's a sticky so you will find it at the top
It contains everything u need: ROMs list, all recovery versions, all radio versions, kernels and allot more
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk 2
lo2ay said:
See the complete wildfire index thread in the development section.
It's a sticky so you will find it at the top
It contains everything u need: ROMs list, all recovery versions, all radio versions, kernels and allot more
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using Tapatalk 2
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It says my phone needs to be GSM (I'm guessing that means unlocked) which my phone isn't. What is a good radio to flash? and do i need to do it before i flash a rom?
GSM means that it's a standard phone that works in any country. ie: it's not CDMA, which mean that it doesn't need special frequencies from the service provider.
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undeniableturnip said:
It says my phone needs to be GSM (I'm guessing that means unlocked) which my phone isn't. What is a good radio to flash? and do i need to do it before i flash a rom?
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like lo2ay already said GSM ("Global System for Mobile Communications") doesn''t mean "unlocked" and has nothing to do wih it.
But in case you didn't unlock your phone - and I'm not getting you totally wrong - this brings up a much more interesting question: if you don't have an unlocked Wildfire - how the hell have you been able to flash a ROM anyway? I'd guess one of the following might match your situation:
- you have a different phone (not a HTC Wildfire)
- you just thought you're going to flash a ROM but did something else instead
- your Wildfire is unlocked and you don't know it
Are you really serious about what you've done? What tutorial/how to did you use to flash Cyanogen Mod?
And yes: if your phone is a Wildfire (buzz) and not unlocked/rooted you can't flash a new radio because you can't flash anything custom...
I think he was meaning sim unlocked?
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I think he was meaning sim unlocked?
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oh yes - I've been thinking about that for a few seconds - you're probably right.
Regarding my own little problem which I've also discussed a bit desperately here: may I ask you what you would try next with all your Wildfire experience? (I've never been really convinced that the V6 Supercharger or 3G Turbocharger scripts could be involved but after reading that a few people got that bootloop prob with 3G after messing around with them it looked so obvious).
I feared to investigate any further because I had the feeling it could cost a lot of time... so when I went on to solve the problem it turned out I was right with that: I've flashed the 7.2 stable today - with doing just a dalvik and system wipe without success and then a complete wipe - no success either.
I fear to revert back to a true stock rom (including s-off again) as it took me a lot of sweat to do that initially (that has been just in the middle of transformation from revolutionary to alpha rev with all the goldcard stuff etc.) - too make it short: what would you do?
Thx in advance for some input on this...
I would first check my mtd size settings! If you dont know what custom mtds are it means your not using them,if you are using them then you must remember to flash the bravo boot file straight after your rom flash before booting! If this is not your issue then i would do a clean flash of a rom. I.e wipe system, cache, dalvik cache, go into mount and storage and do all available wipes NOT sdcard, then flash the rom. If all fails then i would 1st try a reflash of a custom recovery and repeat previous clean rom flash. Now if it still didnt play ball i would scream at it, throw it at a wall then regret that step and move on to ruu.exe and start afresh lol.
On the v6 etc etc issue. Ive publicly said many times how much i hate this script and others like it! But this is only my opinion as i have had issues using them too in the early days. An app i use still to this day which gives you complete control over the effects of these scripts is autokiller memory optimizer. I will link to a thread i made some time ago to explain this app which can be found on the market.
This again can and most likely will be argued or debated as to its function but in my experience its a must have when used correct.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20909644
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I would first check my mtd size settings! If you dont know what custom mtds are it means your not using them,if you are using them then you must remember to flash the bravo boot file straight after your rom flash before booting! If this is not your issue then i would do a clean flash of a rom. I.e wipe system, cache, dalvik cache, go into mount and storage and do all available wipes NOT sdcard, then flash the rom. If all fails then i would 1st try a reflash of a custom recovery and repeat previous clean rom flash. Now if it still didnt play ball i would scream at it, throw it at a wall then regret that step and move on to ruu.exe and start afresh lol.
On the v6 etc etc issue. Ive publicly said many times how much i hate this script and others like it! But this is only my opinion as i have had issues using them too in the early days. An app i use still to this day which gives you complete control over the effects of these scripts is autokiller memory optimizer. I will link to a thread i made some time ago to explain this app which can be found on the market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20909644
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Sorry i only just noticed your link so my advice was for current op issue. However yes i believe these scripts are the cause im afraid. Still i would give you the same advice again as above or try a clean sense rom flash.
You can get safe ruu flashable zips too so as not to lose security or root so try these before going the exe route.
Hope you get a fix.
Regards slym.
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Thanks for the quick reply
slymobi said:
I would first check my mtd size settings! If you dont know what custom mtds are it means your not using them,if you are using them then you must remember to flash the bravo boot file straight after your rom flash before booting!
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Yep I'm using custom mtds - that's exactly the reason I don't like to flash once in a week LOL. I'm aware of flashing the bravo boot directly before rebooting.
I.e wipe system, cache, dalvik cache
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done
go into mount and storage and do all available wipes NOT sdcard
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for that I'm sure I didn't do all (because I've done the factory reset anyways) but perhaps it helps to do it explicitly...? shouldn't hurt
If all fails then i would 1st try a reflash of a custom recovery
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ummh, never done that before - can you point me to a tut or how to?
Now if it still didnt play ball i would scream at it, throw it at a wall then regret that step and move on to ruu.exe and start afresh lol
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oh, so I'd say you're relaxed like Buddha as this came to mind much earlier
On the v6 etc etc issue. Ive publicly said many times how much i hate this script and others like it! But this is only my opinion as i have had issues using them too in the early days
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yes I know - I've read a few of them I've been satisfied with the script but I'm also quite sure that it depends on too many things if it works good on the phone.
An app i use still to this day which gives you complete control over the effects of these scripts is autokiller memory optimizer. I will link to a thread i made some time ago to explain this app which can be found on the market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20909644
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nice, thx, I'll have a look when that sweet old crappy thing will run again LOL
Thx again for quick response -> off to the laboratories now
Nice quote edits, you have way too much time on your hands lol.
For recovery flashing head to development sticky and 3xenos complete wildfire thread has it all mate. I use the terminal emulator method as adb and fastboot dont play well with me.
Lol buddah.
Some users stating a radio flash may fix the bootlooping? Wont harm to try!! Just make sure its a wildfire radio
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Nice quote edits, you have way too much time on your hands lol
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nah, easy when I'm on my PC - don't do that in Tapatalk though LOL (swype or not)
For recovery flashing head to development sticky and 3xenos complete wildfire thread has it all mate. I use the terminal emulator method as adb and fastboot dont play well with me.
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thx - and for adb - it's the opposite here: I don't like ADBin' LOL
Some users stating a radio flash may fix the bootlooping? Wont harm to try!! Just make sure its a wildfire radio
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I know but I've already tried that twice
And no good news: either wiping everything and doing with or without custom mtd didn't do. Immediately when the network icon shows up (on Google accounts login) reboot... - but wait... one more question: what about formatting boot? should i do this, too?
However, I'll try a sense ROM now and the "safe" RUU afterwards - cross fingers...
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nah, easy when I'm on my PC - don't do that in Tapatalk though LOL (swype or not)
thx - and for adb - it's the opposite here: I don't like ADBin' LOL
I know but I've already tried that twice
And no good news: either wiping everything and doing with or without custom mtd didn't do. Immediately when the network icon shows up (on Google accounts login) reboot... - but wait... one more question: what about formatting boot? should i do this, too?
However, I'll try a sense ROM now and the "safe" RUU afterwards - cross fingers...
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Format boot..... Yeah why not, i always have.
Really strange this though as you have virtually wiped the phone clean. I thinks you gonna have to ruu it
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slymobi said:
Format boot..... Yeah why not, i always have
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done also - without any effect
Really strange this though as you have virtually wiped the phone clean. I thinks you gonna have to ruu it
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yup. I've tried to install Rempuzzle - but that hangs around 30 mins - so I will try the custom recovery first...
eventcom said:
done also - without any effect
yup. I've tried to install Rempuzzle - but that hangs around 30 mins - so I will try the custom recovery first...
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Its sounds like you got things covered and know what your doing but just in case? You do have sdext partition for flashing rempuzzle yes?
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slymobi said:
Its sounds like you got things covered and know what your doing but just in case? You do have sdext partition for flashing rempuzzle yes?
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LOL yes but thx for the reminder anyway
Now it's getting really weird... I've just put in a different SIM (out of the family) - different carrier. (the idea came to my mind somehow). Looks like the phone doesn't reboot with that.
If that's true and not by accident - what does that mean now? Usually I'd think about the radio - but I've completely wiped the phone (including a sense install in between) - could this be a hardware problem?
I guess I'll do the RUU thingy anyway. So I'll start to gather information on that.
If anyone has a good suggestion to do that as easy and quick as possible - I'd appreciate any suggestions.
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If someone has a suggestion for a small Sense ROM (yeah I know) I'd prefer to do that first...