i mean ive paid 600 dollars for this phone because i always wanted the latest updates from google. and now its kind of getting boring lol. i was just wondering is it worth rooting? what are the advantages. and is there "odin" to this phone like there was for vibrant. meaning is this unbrickable also? and what is the best rom out there for nexus s.
and also what if i have custom rom and can i go back to stock and still get google updates ota?
Root gives you access to custom kernels that can overclock and give you voodoo sound (awesome) but you must be aware it is not prefect yet...but I enjoy the niggles and when fixes are made by our clever devs the roms are cool...all a bit different and you will always get latest android anyway through these. It is up to you if you want a nexus that evolves and improves beyond what Google imagined....but you gotta put up with a few reboots, force closes and reflashings along the way. I personally am a bit obsessed....now where is that next super kernel!
Plus I should add that as I understand you would have to try hard to brick it. Always do a nandroid backup and your covered....back up your present stock rom and its always there to return to.
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Plus I should add that as I understand you would have to try hard to brick it. Always do a nandroid backup and your covered....back up your present stock rom and its always there to return to.
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cool thanks.. whats the rom you are using? and i am not a fan of oc kernals. i think they eat battery. its bad enough on android as it is lol. hows the battery life on custom roms?
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cool thanks.. whats the rom you are using? and i am not a fan of oc kernals. i think they eat battery. its bad enough on android as it is lol. hows the battery life on custom roms?
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I ran MoDaCo for a bit with Netarchy's kernel and I must say, the battery life was better than no OC. If you don't want to run the overclock, you can install SetCPU and clock it down to 1GHz while adding the VooDoo sound drivers and the better battery life.
If I may throw my two cents in, I rooted my Nexus S but didn't really see a need personally to try roms or over-clocked kernels. Coming from the Captivate, I find this phone to be way superior in terms of speed and performance. So I don't see a need for myself to flash any roms or kernels at this time. That being said, there are advantages to rooting, if only to change or add apps that require root.. Case in point, I installed (after having to push it through adb) Keyboard Manager, which enables you to use different keyboards depending on the orientation of your phone. Only by having root access can you install apps like that. So i definitely see a purpose for rooting other than flashing roms/kernels. Luckily, it's relatively easy to return to stock if needed.
It's absolutely worth it to root. I can't stress it enough. Right now its slow, and may not seem worth it till cyan gets all the extras into his ROM, and more kernels and ROM's pop up. But once that happens, it is a must have to root.
I'm running Cm7 Build 24 with a Trinity 1.0 ghz Kernal. Great work! props to the devs.
Installing custom roms and being able to customize my phone is what I love about android. I used to be a Iphone user, owned every single model.
cm7 is a wonderful rom.
Yes.
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Root gives you access to custom kernels that can overclock and give you voodoo sound (awesome) but you must be aware it is not prefect yet...but I enjoy the niggles and when fixes are made by our clever devs the roms are cool...all a bit different and you will always get latest android anyway through these. It is up to you if you want a nexus that evolves and improves beyond what Google imagined....but you gotta put up with a few reboots, force closes and reflashings along the way. I personally am a bit obsessed....now where is that next super kernel!
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i am not familiar with voodoo sound. what is that? i actually never witnessed a random reboot on my nexus s. may be because its stock
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If I may throw my two cents in, I rooted my Nexus S but didn't really see a need personally to try roms or over-clocked kernels. Coming from the Captivate, I find this phone to be way superior in terms of speed and performance. So I don't see a need for myself to flash any roms or kernels at this time. That being said, there are advantages to rooting, if only to change or add apps that require root.. Case in point, I installed (after having to push it through adb) Keyboard Manager, which enables you to use different keyboards depending on the orientation of your phone. Only by having root access can you install apps like that. So i definitely see a purpose for rooting other than flashing roms/kernels. Luckily, it's relatively easy to return to stock if needed.
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I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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its in the themes and apps section of Android Hacking here on XDA. Give a quick search and you'll find it.
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i am not familiar with voodoo sound. what is that? i actually never witnessed a random reboot on my nexus s. may be because its stock
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voodoo sound is a repository that makes the sound 1000 times better
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I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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As someone stated, it's in the App forum, just search Keyboard Manager. Fair warning, I had issues installing it so had to push it through adb, as I stated in my post. It worked wonderfully and was able to switch between keyboards no problem, great if you have several keyboards installed.
i m on 2.3.2 can i still root? i downloaded the android 2.3 sdk and trying to follow the guide but there is no usb drivers in that sdk. where do i get it from?
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As someone stated, it's in the App forum, just search Keyboard Manager. Fair warning, I had issues installing it so had to push it through adb, as I stated in my post. It worked wonderfully and was able to switch between keyboards no problem, great if you have several keyboards installed.
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Awesome thanks guys. Ill look for it and try it out. Much appreciated
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guys i have rooted and unlocked my nexus s but after a reboot i loose the clockwork image is that normal? and can i flash a rom now/
that honestly shouldn't even be a question android = open source, open source = custom kernels,custom roms,custom everything basically....android = made to be rooted...
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guys i have rooted and unlocked my nexus s but after a reboot i loose the clockwork image is that normal? and can i flash a rom now/
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Yes this is normal its a safety precaution install rom manager and everytime you want to go to recovery without having to reflash in bootloader just go into rom manager and hit go to recovery or hold power button reboot then recovery and you will get to clockword
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i m on 2.3.2 can i still root? i downloaded the android 2.3 sdk and trying to follow the guide but there is no usb drivers in that sdk. where do i get it from?
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Follow my guide, the full one is available here (my blog) http://completeandroid.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/complete-guide-to-rooting-the-nexus-s/
or the XDA thread version (doesn't have pictures) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935819
Basically you have to run the SDK manager and install the USB drivers separately, and also install the PDAnet software for extra drivers (I found it helps when using connecting to the NS in fastboot mode).
Custom kernels are evolving...massive overclock or an undervolted battery saver are available. If you got the time and inclination you can try every combo of rom/kernel going....and always have your stock rom only a recovery away.
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Ok, after the last tmo/samsung update bricked my vibrant i got my replacement left it stock and let it update. it worked fine. Question is, should I root, incase they send another update i cannot refuse and it bricks my phone again. It's just that the lag fix makes it twice as fast. But i don't like bricked phones.
Root
Clockwork
Backup
Flash Fusion
Enjoy
# no lag fix #
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Root
Clockwork
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Flash Fusion
Enjoy
# no lag fix #
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well, i'm a noob with this. any tuts on all that? I figured out how to use odin to flash diff roms on my phone and had no issues. but all that Idk. yes I know I can prolly search for all of it, but that took me hours last time. any help would be awesome. thanks.
Click the link in my signature. That thread took a LOT of work, but it should have eveything you need to know. If it does not, let me know what I can do to make it better.
i will try tonite, thanks. I search alot for this stuff and the ppl here seem to be the best. you guys are awzum.
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Click the link in my signature. That thread took a LOT of work, but it should have eveything you need to know. If it does not, let me know what I can do to make it better.
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s15274n said everything I had to say... the both times he posted.
It's easy once you read and understand. And i'm almost certain you could've fixed your last 'bricked' phone if you searched.
I searched. the first was a soft brick sticking at vibrant logo. I fixed it, but I didn't have a stock backup i flashed, it was a "stock rom" i found on here somewhere. But when it bricked the second time it wouldn't power up, no battery on screen when charging, nothing. But, I will give it a go this way and see what happens, I have 2 now, so eh. It's fun, but I am jsut getting into it. like I flashed it with one of the froyo roms, but the sound wouldn't work for nothing, i searched and no one else using that rom had that problem that i could find. So i know there was something i didn't do. I just wanna makesure i can get it back to stock if i need to.
don't forget to check if your phone is hardware locked.
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don't forget to check if your phone is hardware locked.
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Wish I had got bricked good. Got the replacement and its not hardware locked so flash away
Ok, so I did all that you mentioned seemed to work fine, but this fusion rom doesn't seem like much. now don't flame yet, i am just talkin. but it doesn't look like it changed much other than add launcher pro and as for lag. it's not as slow as stock but with ryans lag fix my quadrant score was 2550 and i'm getting 950 on this. although i have to say the gps snapped to lock. that was great.i really like the froyo rom i flashed before if i could have figured our how come my sound wasn't working and everyone else did not have that issue.
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Ok, so I did all that you mentioned seemed to work fine, but this fusion rom doesn't seem like much. now don't flame yet, i am just talkin. but it doesn't look like it changed much other than add launcher pro and as for lag. it's not as slow as stock but with ryans lag fix my quadrant score was 2550 and i'm getting 950 on this. although i have to say the gps snapped to lock. that was great.i really like the froyo rom i flashed before if i could have figured our how come my sound wasn't working and everyone else did not have that issue.
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There are a few options available on TeamWhiskey website:
1. Fusion with stock kernel
2. Fusion with JAC kernel
3. Fusion with KK kernel
All of the above do not include any lagfixes, except a manual invocation via ADB for RyanZA's equivalent, a.k.a mount /data on a virtual EXT2 partition.
Optionally you can load Voodoo EXT4 based lagfix on non stock kernel options.
Another project is underway with TW own overclocked kernel and z4mod.
And as far as not much, compare the system resource utilization on stock Vibrant and on Vibrant with Fusion (with stock kernel option) - the guys over at TW have squeezed as much as possible out of TouchWiz to make the phone snappier, and as an added bonus they have removed most of the bloatware for you as well leaving the Media Hub for those who might wanna use it.
With the surge of some ROMs for our devices, and though they're related between each other to a certain degree (save for CM7), the inevitable question surges: which one has the upper hand? The stock ROM is vastly improved since 1.06 and Ganjaman's add-ons make it more mature, the MoDaCo ROM has the advantage of having been the first modded ROM, CyanogenMod7, thanks to Apache14's work, has made a stellar appearance and we actually get the official updates (such as the ones that mad-murdock presented us yesterday), Corvus has been updating his new ROM quite rapidly and it works nicely, like Fuji-Vega does... We're lucky that we're not in want of possible choices! But which is yours?
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For me corvus. It's so quick and stable, and is the only one, where's my usb 3g huawei running. Did I told you, that it's really fast?
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I agree totally, corvus is so quick. I can't wait until it can be combined with mad murdoch's HC tweaks, the vega will be Ninja then!
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@logseman
great idea for a thread. I'm considering starting a thread on a similar line, thought id check in and avoid toe treading and see if there is a need for it.
As a newb to vega android modding, its great that there is such a wealth of info and advice, but sometimes its not clear or comprehensive (at least in one place! )
I'd like to run a "what vega setup is best for me" thread. The aim being to allow users to show exactly what setup they are running, how it performs, pro's and cons, bugs etc.
By using a standard template, we can see what works and why. We can make direct comparisons between setups without searching through threads for hours.
Users can then copy setups and try if they think they like it. Might also provide devs useful concise feedback to help them progress roms / kernels etc.
If it already exists, feel free to point me in the right direction whilst mocking my newbe stupidity, but ive read and re read the main threads and can't see it.
If you're reading this and think it would be useful, let me know, with suggestions and i'll get the ball rolling.
I.A.O.
Edit: if you want to help or collaborate, pm me.
I'm not sure how setting up a "standard configuration" would be of benefit. Primarily because of two issues: first, the same custom ROM can have dramatic performance differences between one device and the other (I am a ROM tester for Galaxy S, people claim battery lives of 4 days which I've never heard about); and second, the point of Android is that it actually doesn't force any standardisation as of now: I don't see why users would tend to a certain set up which has been done by another person instead of experimenting themselves.
Don't take me wrong, I appreciate that you take interest in this thread, but I fail to see the point of your suggestion. Android has no predefined "set-ups" as far as I know.
Yeah, i get your point. For me too its all about modding and tweaking. But i also got the impression that some people just want to get there device configured in a way that works for them quickly.
Im certainly Not saying lets all set up the same, if we wanted that we'd just bite the apple right!
I just think it would be useful to see at a glance what is working for people. I.e - "i need a rom with no lag on my vega - ah looks like cm7 ttrc2 has lag issues", without having to read 178 pages to find out.
I guess it would be more like an "at a glance" guide to roms for each device.
I used Modaco since i got my Mobii/Vega, but yesterday i flashed clockwork recovery and started using Titanium backup for real, so now i am testing some ROMs and sofar i like fuji-vega the most, fast and smooth, only some lag in appmenu when i have the device rooted.
I spent a long time using mcr8 eventually with buzz kernel but I then got bored and tried cm7 which I loved but just could not stand all the lag when scrolling etc.
I am now using corvus which seems to work well for me. I hope to switch back to cm7 when it improves a bit.
I love CM7 on my phone and would love it on the Vega, but the wifi troubles it has at this moment on the Vega made me switch to first Modaco and than Corvus. The only bad thing I can say about Corvus is that I personally would prefer Gingerbread green icons aboive the blue ones in Corvus
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I used Modaco since i got my Mobii/Vega, but yesterday i flashed clockwork recovery and started using Titanium backup for real, so now i am testing some ROMs and sofar i like fuji-vega the most, fast and smooth, only some lag in appmenu when i have the device rooted.
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I am in a similar position to you. I have only installed Modaco R8 and not really used Titanium Backup nor Clockwork Recovery. I find R8 lags after extended use (requiring a reboot) so I am interesting in changing to Corvus. I have a few questions.
What is the best way to move from Modaco to Corvus?
Can I use Clockwork Recovery/Titanium to ease the pain of transition?
How do I install CWR?
Is it best to go back to stock and then install Corvus? If so, will I lose all of my customisations?
Thanks in anticipation of a response.
What is the best way to move from Modaco to Corvus?
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I would do a Ti Backup of everything, then a nandroid backup before flashing.
Can I use Clockwork Recovery/Titanium to ease the pain of transition?
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Definitely use both of these, pay for Ti Backup to enable auto batch stuff
How do I install CWR?
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Try THIS thread
Is it best to go back to stock and then install Corvus? If so, will I lose all of my customisations?
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You would want to wipe when doing an install of a different rom anyway, so you will lose settings, most will be restored by Ti Backup though.
> I would do a Ti Backup of everything, then a nandroid backup before flashing.
Sorry, how do I do that? I have Modaco R8 with Titanium Backup installed. How do I use Ti to "backup everything", what is a "nandroid backup", and how do I restore stuff after installing a new ROM?
Cheers.
you can find this information quite easily by searching
ti backup press menu>batch>backup all user apps and system data
Then after installing cwm (download zip open
cd /path/to/folder
./install.sh for mac and linux (make sure to downlod my fixed scripts second post)
or
click install.bat for windows
then click recovery app use volume buttons and power to select backup and restore)
wipe data instal rom
ti backup from market
menu>batch>restore all user apps and system data (modaco is similar to corvus so should be safe to restore everything if things start crashing repeat install and untick all apps that are already installed in ti backup)
there you go you have transitioned
sorry if this sounds patronising it sounded like you were a noob so i included great detail
p.s. this will all become second nature after a while
hmmm atm i'm using CM7, and after switching to launcher pro it's so fast !!
adw launcher is such a crappy launcher (sry, my opinion)
anyways, my flash is pretty laggy due to the unstable nightly builds, I mean they're not in the fully power.. but I will wait, <3 cyanogem
I wish we had the HC update soon, rly =(
Ive been using Fuji-Vega since april and applying updates when they become available.
Really happy with it and cant complain. Does what i need it to do.
Very quick to use.
Corvus5 for me right now. it's stable and fast as, with oc I have been using cm7 until a few days ago and will no doubt give the latest a shot before the weekends gone, it now has oc kernel
I can't use custom ROMs because nor CM neither Corvus doesn't let my Huawei e150 connect to internet. When I'll solve this problem CM'll my choice.
CM7 for me. I've tried a few but CM7 just feels/looks slicker.
Will there ever be a fully working honeycomb rom?
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While we wait for Cyanogenmod to come out, here is someone else's build to play with:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOJJ0kcBHK4
Enjoy!
Thanks, I'll definitely check this out.
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How many threads do we need on this, really?
Why do we need a video to install an ipk... If you can't figure it out on your own I think maybe installing this isn't the best idea.
theniel said:
Why do we need a video to install an ipk... If you can't figure it out on your own I think maybe installing this isn't the best idea.
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The purpose of the video is not JUST to show how to install, but to give people the confidence to try it out. Knowing that someone else has done it with no side effects, and how to easily remove it. It also demonstrates the actual build itself, showing everyone how it works and whether it is worth it to install.
If you don't like the video, don't watch it.
Here is a mirror for the IPK....
http://www.ponack.net/danalo/tpandroid.zip
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The purpose of the video is not JUST to show how to install, but to give people the confidence to try it out. Knowing that someone else has done it with no side effects, and how to easily remove it. It also demonstrates the actual build itself, showing everyone how it works and whether it is worth it to install.
If you don't like the video, don't watch it.
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+1 totally agree
cant believe this is done by one person
If you are keeping this thread up, you may want to mention that if you install this, you will not be able to install a custom kernel in webOS until you doctor your device. This installs its own and doesn't come out cleanly.
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If you are keeping this thread up, you may want to mention that if you install this, you will not be able to install a custom kernel in webOS until you doctor your device. This installs its own and doesn't come out cleanly.
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Yep... I just did it, then uninstalled, reinstalled stock and overclock kernals and no go. Stays at the stock speed. I haven't decided whether to stick with Chroid and play with it or doctor.
Update: I was able to get Uberkernal and 1.5Ghz back. However, what I did was go into WebOS >> Software Tab >> Software Manager. Uninstalled Chroid. Installed stock palm kernal (restart) and install Uberkernal. Govnah sees it now.
Worked for me at least.. hope it helps!
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Yep... I just did it, then uninstalled, reinstalled stock and overclock kernals and no go. Stays at the stock speed. I haven't decided whether to stick with Chroid and play with it or doctor.
Update: I was able to get Uberkernal and 1.5Ghz back. However, what I did was go into WebOS >> Software Tab >> Software Manager. Uninstalled Chroid. Installed stock palm kernal (restart) and install Uberkernal. Govnah sees it now.
Worked for me at least.. hope it helps!
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Thanks for the tip! much appreciated.
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If you are keeping this thread up, you may want to mention that if you install this, you will not be able to install a custom kernel in webOS until you doctor your device. This installs its own and doesn't come out cleanly.
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That would explain why I had to doctor mine to get my overclock back! I was wondering what it was!
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That would explain why I had to doctor mine to get my overclock back! I was wondering what it was!
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you don't have to doctor...
you just have to install the stock kernel back and then install the oc kernel.
that is all.
no doctor needed.
You can also install with webOS Quick Install from your computer connected to USB..
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I tried that with no luck lol! I Literly tried everything. In the end I gave up and had to doctor it lol.
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I tried that with no luck lol! I Literly tried everything. In the end I gave up and had to doctor it lol.
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It shouldn't have been necessary... did you fully uninstall Chroid through the WebOS software manager? I did it again and without reinstalling UberKernal it just showed up in Govnah after uninstalling Chroid. (Original Release, not the 10/08 one.. haven't tried that one yet).
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It shouldn't have been necessary... did you fully uninstall Chroid through the WebOS software manager? I did it again and without reinstalling UberKernal it just showed up in Govnah after uninstalling Chroid. (Original Release, not the 10/08 one.. haven't tried that one yet).
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I did yeah, I really don't know what I was doing wrong.
Anyway my TouchPad is running much better as its not half broken with the tweaks and stuff I tried doing myself
not trying to troll, but im wondering, if many of us are having issues with OC kernals for webOS (myself included), and the android kernal, will dual booting android/webOS be a bit of a pain to jump back and forth between? or this specifically towards just chompers android/webOS?
I finally decided to root my g2 but I'm quickly becoming overwhelmed with all the possible choices and information. This is what I'm looking for and hopefully somebody can tell me the simplest way to achieve it.
I want good gps and working Google talking navigation.
I need working wifi calling.
I want to safely over clock.
I am not overly concerned with appearance, i just want something that works well with no bugs. I've been using cm7 nightly on my nook color and I'm happy with it, but does cm play nice with gps now? I've read several threads about other roms and that's why I'm stuck. I really don't want to have to experiment with a dozen different setups. Thank you ahead of time!
Most ROMs in the dev section provide all 3 of those. Any custom ROM allows overclocking, nearly all provide WiFi calling (or you can add it later), and gapps provides your navigation/gps functionality.
You can read before installing whether or not there are known bugs (some AOSP ROMs have GPS issues), and then troubleshoot afterwards if you have issues.
Just be sure to back up with ROM manager before you flash, and you can always go back to the previous setup if you're unhappy with the way your chosen ROM performs for you.
I'd recommend the ROM in my signature to meet all of the needs you mentioned. It's fast, reliable, and has incredible support... essentially it's a moderately modded version of CM7.
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Be sure to follow the wiki for rooting its flawless.
As for rom choice I always, always end up back on CM7. Nothing beats its out of the box functionality and stability.
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I've used Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 and now I'm on InsertCoin Sense 2.1+3.0. Both are great and should fit your needs.
Basically, once you root your phone changing ROMs is easy so you can try different ones and see which you like best.
Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
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Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 is Sense 2.1, so it's not slower than stock (in fact it's faster, thanks to optimizations and Virtuos OC Daemon) and doesn't have any weird issues.
InsertCoin is developed by a different team and uses a different kernel (rmk), so I wouldn't call it a variation. It's also different in that it combines elements from Sense 2.1 and 3.0, while Virtuos ROMs are either full 2.1 or full 3.0.
i guess we all missed the main point here and is how to root lol heres the best guide for rooting your G2/Desire Z:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
about the ROMs if you like CM7 go ahead and try it for, its the same as the one you have on your nook, and yes you can overclock without adding anything
about gps on cm7 most people have had trouble with it, but you just need to try cause i really never had any problems
Yea wipe efs before flashing, it will eliminate a lot of common issues with gps and such. Superwipe + will wipe everything well. Don't forget to flash recovery and do a nandroid backup! Also to make the transition easier backup with titanium backup pro. I use virtuous glite btw it looks stock except with light overclock and it is solid. Virtouos basically took the stock rom removed a lot of the bloat and overclocked and pre-rooted it. Works great my only hiccup was I had to grab the swpye beta apk. Aside from that I just restored my apps and I was away.
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Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
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Gapps is embedded in the ILWT ROM, as is the EFS wipe tool, to help eliminate GPS issues (plus radio suggestions/info in the OP). Wifi Calling can also be added during ROM install. The OP gives all the info you could possibly need in his thread. Give it a thorough read... seems to cover all the things you've mentioned. And I've had nothing but best experience with it... been running it since nightly 186.
I've successfully rooted following the wiki, I was pretty nervous about screwing it up but everything went smoothly and exactly how it was written. I installed RomManager and flashed "clockworkmod recovery" and then clicked on "backup current rom" and it rebooted the phone and gave me several choices. I used the volume button to select "backup and restore" and selected that, and now it is showing me a screen with a top hat over an orange ring, it's just sitting there with no progress bars and no words. I was following the directions from this site:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
but it doesn't look like the screens on that site right now.
Is this supposed to happen, or did I somehow screw something up when I've barely gotten started?
You still need to flash a Recovery... you can do this through Rom Manager... but use version 3.0.2.4. Or, you could check out the Recovery in my signature. 4EXT Recovery... it's pretty wonderful. After you flash your chosen Recovery you will be able to make a NANDroid backup.
Misread your post. Yeah, you probably used the trackpad... sorry.
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Did you use the power button to select?Don't, use the trackpad
I thought clicking "flash clockworkmod recovery" was flashing a recovery? My big question is what do I do right now, as things seem locked up with just the hat/orange ring on the screen. It's been that way for about 5 minutes at least. Can I power off without hurting anything? And yes, I used power to select "backup/recover".
Press it again and then use the trackpad to scroll and select,that screen is like a screensaver so to speak.
Bombadier,
Many, many thanks to you, I was afraid I'd royally screwed up. If it wasn't for your help in my ADB thread I wouldn't have made it this far, many and much thanks!
No problems happy to of helped
Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
When you log into google your apps are synced,would recommend getting titanium backup though,a good app which can backup,restore apps,upload to dropbox,uninstall system apps very useful indeed
kingston73 said:
Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
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Before you flash a new ROM, download "Titanium Backup" off the market and use the Menu button to select Batch. Do a backup of all your apps and data (not system data), and when you flash a new ROM, reinstall Titanium, select Batch mode again, and restore all missing apps and data.
So I took a big leap and rooted my tablet this morning. I've installed Titanium Backup and GMD Gesture, and also AdAway and AppQuarantine. What other great things can I do? I love trying new things. Any suggestions from you experts? I would be very grateful!
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Flash a custom ROM.
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Flash a custom ROM.
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Download and do either of the following for a full backup...
the best way to do a complete and full backup of your device.. There are two methods
1 most common
download ROM MANAGER
you can from in this app install a custom recovery on your device..
Boot into the custom recovery and do a full anand backup. you can also flash other custom roms (custom android os)
2 what i use..
download goo manager beta from play store
in go manager click menu at top choose install open source recovery . follow prompts . It will download and install
same as step one you can boot into recovery from goo manager Its big botton fully touch base . And you can backup and restore as well as flash custom roms...
NOW WITH THE ABOVE SAID PLEASE READ thru the forums related to roms rom manager Custom recoveries .. and so on .. this will save you some troubles later .. anything you need to know or not understand Just ask We are here to help.
Cool, thanks! Could you point me to the best place for explanations about roms? XDA is huge and I am not sure where to look... Cheers!
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Flash a custom ROM.
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And then eventually, try out some custom kernels. Although be warned, you may discover a new hobby and become a crack flasher
I usually don't keep any one ROM and kernel on my tablet for more then a week (average is 2 days). I'm trying to resist flashing PARANOIDANDROID 1.992 since I heard 2.0 is around the corner.. not sure how long I can hold out though
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I'm ****ing dumb, thought this was GN for some reason.
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it doesnt work with the seven. at least ezekeel(developer) said that it cant be implemented on the nexus 7.
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it doesnt work with the seven. at least ezekeel(developer) said that it cant be implemented on the nexus 7.
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My bad. (Too bad as well, but meh.)
Edit: some (though not all) of these inverted apps work, if you swing that way. Once again, they were made for the GN
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My bad. (Too bad as well, but meh.)
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yea, i know. he asked me what mods he should port to the nexus 7 since he just got one, my answer was logo me right away. then he disappointed me by saying its not possible seeing how the bootloader is encrypted
To find roms on xda
Xda is a very organized web site for the most part finding them is easy. deciding which one is not so much
rom actually means read only memory.. But we will skip the tech stuff for now..
Here on the device development forums Rom is referred to mostly as a custom built Operating system for your device .
these can be built by one person or a team of developers . Most have tweaks and customization's a bit above and beyond the stock experience. ITS BEST before flashing any new rom is to into the forum thread of the rom read developer info and the comments made on the thread. Many roms have experimental software apps and tweaks.. Not all roms are perfectly stable..SO FINDING one that has what you are looking for is just a matter of reading and trial and error.
Most roms. well all you see anymore Come with a kernel. (The linux part of android .. Kinda whats under the hood) . Be sure to pay attention to this and the information. Some add features some over clock .
we have here for the n7 several types of roms .
original development .. these are based on the custom operating system pushed by google
custom based on the above but often has alot more customization's and kernel tweaks More likely to have buggs . but often faster and take up less storage space on device.. as well as having a personal twist for the developer on apps installed customization's and themes
I never give advice on what to use just go in the development section and start reading .
Be sure before you flash anything on your tablet know what it is and how to get out of it Back to stock and Have your backups backed up...
ALWAYS HAVE A WAY OUT FIRST..
Good Luck
So I am now on Paranoid Android, trying out the different Workspaces. Thanks for the help!
But I don't understand what Paranoid Android does. What does "This rom lets you scale and project every app, every widget, even systemcomponents individually" mean in every day language?
Also, could someone explain where, in tablet mode, the three dots are for the settings of many apps. They seem to be covered by the status bar. How does one access them? Would be grateful for help as I really like the small tablet mode.