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[ROM] Blackhole 1.1 Stable Now on Rom Manager (5/7 Release)

The 1.1 Stable Download is available in Rom Manager now with limited options. I will be adding more as I find the time to.
Well, after many hours of trial and error, testing, and confusion I'm very proud to present the first open beta for Blackhole Build-Your-Own Rom on the HTC Thunderbolt.
Standard disclaimer:
While no Custom Rom can ever claim to be completely safe, and the very act of rooting your phone voids your warranty, I do my best to make sure that any Rom I release is fully tested. That said, if something does go wrong I am not responsible for loss of time/money/data/sanity/limbs/life that results directly or indirectly from the use of this Rom. Please enjoy responsibly.
Changelog:
Based on the latest RUU leak (1.13.605.7)
Deodexed
Rooted with Busybox
All bloat removed
Most stock apps removed
Added advanced power options mod
Added apps:
Widget Picker
Remaining stock apps:
Calendar
Camera
Contacts
Gmail
Phone
Setup Wizard
1.1 Changelog:
Added 6 signal bar mod (Thanks TeamBamf)
Added Accurate Battery (Thanks TeamBamf)
Added Transparent Notification Area (Thanks TeamBamf)
Added Power Options in Notification Area(Thanks JSChiSurf)
Various file-system and build.prop tweaks.
Known issues:
Cannot setup additional Gmail accounts past the first, unless connected to a computer via usb (No idea, but I'm working on it) User error.
Occasional reset during first run of Setup Wizard (only happened twice out of 10-20 /data wipes during testing) Fixed in 1.1 update.
Because I cannot test everything I rely on you guys to report any issues you have. Please be specific, let me know what triggers the issue, if you find a workaround, the specific error message you get (if any) and all the detail you can provide.
DATA WIPE IS STRONGLY RECOMMENDED BUT NOT REQUIRED
Download in Rom Manager
Visit Androiddoes for FAQ's, a list of the latest Rom Manager updates and the official error reporting thread. Also you can find info on how to get early access to the Rom if interested.

Great! So all of this will be linked to Rom Manager? Meaning, we get the ROM there as well as choose what will go on it and then flash? Or, do we grab the ROM from a link provided, and use Rom Manager to personalize it?
Also, is the kernel going to be a separate flash based on our needs or will you include one (or some choices) in the Rom?
Thanks for your work!

jasonbiggs said:
Great! So all of this will be linked to Rom Manager? Meaning, we get the ROM there as well as choose what will go on it and then flash? Or, do we grab the ROM from a link provided, and use Rom Manager to personalize it?
Also, is the kernel going to be a separate flash based on our needs or will you include one (or some choices) in the Rom?
Thanks for your work!
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The Rom will be in Rom Manager as well, so you'll select the Rom option, and it will give you a bunch of different lists to choose one or more options from, such as:
Music - Stock or AOSP player
Browser - Stock or choice of market browsers
Launcher - Sense, LauncherPro, ADW, GoLauncher, etc.
Stock apps - Add back any removed apps you may want
Theme - Select from available themes (added with permission of creators)
Kernel - Pick the kernel you want with the Rom (added with permission)
Mods - choose which mods are preinstalled
(These are just examples and may not be available right away, or ever)
Blackhole aims to be an all in one experience.
I also try to make it easy to try different things and modify the Rom after it's installed. Every option that you can choose when you flash the Rom for the first time can be chosen later to change things up. These options even work on most other roms too.
Thank you for your question, I apologize if I've been a bit too long winded.

Nice. I already see you in rom manager. Looking forward to try it when rom manager access complete. Thanks.

loved blackhole on the fascinate.. can't wait

So just going through the motions in Rom Manager I can see that this thing has great potential. Was this made originally for Galaxy phones? Seems to be a lot of options for Touchwiz and de-binged apps? Is there or will there be options for sense items. I personally like using sense just all the verizon stuff de-bloated.. I know it is work in progress and looks great. This weekend when I have time I will give it all a go and see how it runs..
Can't wait to see how this grows. Will be a nice option for people that I know that are not really good at setting up custom looks on their phones. Reminds me of Adamz Smoked Glass on the D1 back in the day when he made setup files in recovery to choose what you wanted.. Again awesome work..

wctaylor79 said:
So just going through the motions in Rom Manager I can see that this thing has great potential. Was this made originally for Galaxy phones? Seems to be a lot of options for Touchwiz and de-binged apps? Is there or will there be options for sense items. I personally like using sense just all the verizon stuff de-bloated.. I know it is work in progress and looks great. This weekend when I have time I will give it all a go and see how it runs..
Can't wait to see how this grows. Will be a nice option for people that I know that are not really good at setting up custom looks on their phones. Reminds me of Adamz Smoked Glass on the D1 back in the day when he made setup files in recovery to choose what you wanted.. Again awesome work..
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Yes the rom was made for the Verizon Samsung Fascinate first, and I'm using that manifest to work in the Thunderbolt options more easily.
I plan to have all of the Stock apps including sense, widgets, themes, wallpapers, etc. available eventually.
I actually took my inspiration for this rom from the Droidmod installer from my D1. When I upgraded I saw there was nothing like that for the fascinate and decided to make it myself. It just kinda caught on from there.

I loved your Blackhole rom on the Fascinate. Its great to see you put one together for the T-Bolt!

Sounds nice!

Jaxidian said:
Sounds nice!
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10charssssss

I can't wait to use your rom. It was all I ever used on my fascinate. I love your work. Thanks for doing it on the t-bolt. You rock.
Sent from my ADR6400L using XDA Premium App

Thanks a lot for all the kind words guys. Build your own version should be up in Rom Manager very soon, with constantly growing options.

When I wipe and install the phone just loops and never boots up. Stuck on Android

superdusto said:
When I wipe and install the phone just loops and never boots up. Stuck on Android
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Are you able to get a logcat so I could see why? I never had it do that in all my testing.

Not sure what a log cat is. I tried it twice wiping both times and had no luck

superdusto said:
Not sure what a log cat is. I tried it twice wiping both times and had no luck
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Have you tried downloading it again? could have been corrupted or incomplete download. What's the file size for the one you flashed?

sonofskywalker3 said:
Have you tried downloading it again? could have been corrupted or incomplete download. What's the file size for the one you flashed?
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The size was 142MB

If anybody tried to download from rom manager, I had some issues with my manifest, it's fixed now, so if you get an error just exit Rom Manager and try again, It'll start from where you left off.

superdusto said:
The size was 142MB
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That's the right size, so it's not an incomplete download. Try flashing the Stock Dexodexed build and then install Blackhole from Rom Manager.

Cool! Really need the Corporate email option to be installed
And, is wifi working in 1.0?
Thanks!

New to root and overwhelmed with choices-please help

I finally decided to root my g2 but I'm quickly becoming overwhelmed with all the possible choices and information. This is what I'm looking for and hopefully somebody can tell me the simplest way to achieve it.
I want good gps and working Google talking navigation.
I need working wifi calling.
I want to safely over clock.
I am not overly concerned with appearance, i just want something that works well with no bugs. I've been using cm7 nightly on my nook color and I'm happy with it, but does cm play nice with gps now? I've read several threads about other roms and that's why I'm stuck. I really don't want to have to experiment with a dozen different setups. Thank you ahead of time!

Most ROMs in the dev section provide all 3 of those. Any custom ROM allows overclocking, nearly all provide WiFi calling (or you can add it later), and gapps provides your navigation/gps functionality.
You can read before installing whether or not there are known bugs (some AOSP ROMs have GPS issues), and then troubleshoot afterwards if you have issues.
Just be sure to back up with ROM manager before you flash, and you can always go back to the previous setup if you're unhappy with the way your chosen ROM performs for you.

I'd recommend the ROM in my signature to meet all of the needs you mentioned. It's fast, reliable, and has incredible support... essentially it's a moderately modded version of CM7.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Be sure to follow the wiki for rooting its flawless.
As for rom choice I always, always end up back on CM7. Nothing beats its out of the box functionality and stability.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium

I've used Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 and now I'm on InsertCoin Sense 2.1+3.0. Both are great and should fit your needs.
Basically, once you root your phone changing ROMs is easy so you can try different ones and see which you like best.

Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?

I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
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Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 is Sense 2.1, so it's not slower than stock (in fact it's faster, thanks to optimizations and Virtuos OC Daemon) and doesn't have any weird issues.
InsertCoin is developed by a different team and uses a different kernel (rmk), so I wouldn't call it a variation. It's also different in that it combines elements from Sense 2.1 and 3.0, while Virtuos ROMs are either full 2.1 or full 3.0.

i guess we all missed the main point here and is how to root lol heres the best guide for rooting your G2/Desire Z:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
about the ROMs if you like CM7 go ahead and try it for, its the same as the one you have on your nook, and yes you can overclock without adding anything
about gps on cm7 most people have had trouble with it, but you just need to try cause i really never had any problems

Yea wipe efs before flashing, it will eliminate a lot of common issues with gps and such. Superwipe + will wipe everything well. Don't forget to flash recovery and do a nandroid backup! Also to make the transition easier backup with titanium backup pro. I use virtuous glite btw it looks stock except with light overclock and it is solid. Virtouos basically took the stock rom removed a lot of the bloat and overclocked and pre-rooted it. Works great my only hiccup was I had to grab the swpye beta apk. Aside from that I just restored my apps and I was away.

kingston73 said:
Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
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Gapps is embedded in the ILWT ROM, as is the EFS wipe tool, to help eliminate GPS issues (plus radio suggestions/info in the OP). Wifi Calling can also be added during ROM install. The OP gives all the info you could possibly need in his thread. Give it a thorough read... seems to cover all the things you've mentioned. And I've had nothing but best experience with it... been running it since nightly 186.

I've successfully rooted following the wiki, I was pretty nervous about screwing it up but everything went smoothly and exactly how it was written. I installed RomManager and flashed "clockworkmod recovery" and then clicked on "backup current rom" and it rebooted the phone and gave me several choices. I used the volume button to select "backup and restore" and selected that, and now it is showing me a screen with a top hat over an orange ring, it's just sitting there with no progress bars and no words. I was following the directions from this site:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
but it doesn't look like the screens on that site right now.
Is this supposed to happen, or did I somehow screw something up when I've barely gotten started?

You still need to flash a Recovery... you can do this through Rom Manager... but use version 3.0.2.4. Or, you could check out the Recovery in my signature. 4EXT Recovery... it's pretty wonderful. After you flash your chosen Recovery you will be able to make a NANDroid backup.
Misread your post. Yeah, you probably used the trackpad... sorry.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App

Did you use the power button to select?Don't, use the trackpad

I thought clicking "flash clockworkmod recovery" was flashing a recovery? My big question is what do I do right now, as things seem locked up with just the hat/orange ring on the screen. It's been that way for about 5 minutes at least. Can I power off without hurting anything? And yes, I used power to select "backup/recover".

Press it again and then use the trackpad to scroll and select,that screen is like a screensaver so to speak.

Bombadier,
Many, many thanks to you, I was afraid I'd royally screwed up. If it wasn't for your help in my ADB thread I wouldn't have made it this far, many and much thanks!

No problems happy to of helped

Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?

When you log into google your apps are synced,would recommend getting titanium backup though,a good app which can backup,restore apps,upload to dropbox,uninstall system apps very useful indeed

kingston73 said:
Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
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Before you flash a new ROM, download "Titanium Backup" off the market and use the Menu button to select Batch. Do a backup of all your apps and data (not system data), and when you flash a new ROM, reinstall Titanium, select Batch mode again, and restore all missing apps and data.

[Q] rooted.....now?

So I have rooted for the first time, I flashed a ROM.
ok so i don't notice much difference.
So I'm guessing maybe its just the ROM I am using, I wont mention it by name as I'm sure the dev. Put alot of time and effort to create it and its just not what I'm looking for.
Other than speeding up the performance a little, what was the root suposed to do?
And
from what I can see ( and I'm not very experienced in this stuff, I'm learning ) most Roms are just stock with stuff riped out. What else is possible? I wanted to set myself apart from my stock user friends.

Why did you do it if you didn't already know the answer? Anyways, you can overclock, undervolt, have ROMs like MIUI and CM7, free wifi tethering, and more stuff.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App

You probably shouldn't have rooted if you didn't know what you were doing. As they always say, "If you have to ask what rooting IS, you probably shouldn't be looking up how to do it yet."

ok maybe I worded that wrong. Yes I know that I can overclock, Already done. And I have a rom on it. I guess what I'm asking is what diffferent roms have to offer.
I'm just learning and don't completely under stand all the technical stuff and the slang. They all basicly say the same thing. Faster and longer battery.

It really comes down to customization. A big one is boot times being much faster - this really seems popular, which I obviously understand. Some people compress all of the apps so the ROMs can really get down to like 200MB and the ROM is usually much better on memory in these cases. Another huge thing is custom kernels (overclocking) and being able to remove unwanted bloatware with system applications. There's apps on the market that only work on rooted devices, such as custom recovery which allows you to take a backup and then restore in the event you screw something up and get boot loops, and apps like cachemate and one of my new favs, the Reboot.apk. It's really limitless. Oh yeah, you can also customize font colors and notification colors, battery (and other) icons, messing with the build.prop, you are able to change certain behaviors of the phone/tablet, and with TrevE's apps, you can find out if your phone/tablet is spying on you. I recently deleted a lot of logs and made those files and folders read only so no more logs could be made. And finally, you customize your boot animation, which is really cool.

Thank you that's what I'm looking for.
So if I wanted to say change some icons, ist the same as flashing the rom? Can I download icons and install the same way? I'm Not ready to make my own or anything lol

Well, you can download full icon packs on the Market. Some are paid, some are free. There are other applications like "BetterCut" or something like that that allow you to change the icons. I'm not sure if you need a custom launcher to do that though, as I've always changed my icons inside of a custom launcher like Panda Home. Panda Home actually has a built in custom icon changer! Not sure if it's compatible with the tablet though, but I know ADW is. Good luck!

Perhaps, you should just flash back to a stock acer rom.
But before you do, take a good benchmark on your battery life.
Then flash back.
Sometimes, rooting is just not for everybody.

Ok one more question.
I have done a full back up, if i want to try a different rom, i flash the same way. If i dont like it i can restore using the backup i made and everything goes back to how it is now? Including how my home screen is now and widgets?
Thank you everyone!

Yes if you did the backup inside of cwm.. I used this feature alot when i was messing with the UI Of my tablet.. NOW all my icons text boarders all match the nice burgundy color case i have my tablet in
I Would try to restore your backup to be sure it does restore before flashing a new rom..
just make sure you fallow all instructions by the Rom Developer.Doing this and you should be fine..
If you brick your tablet you can Blame me .......
Happy Flashing...... STOCK IS BORING.

Ok great thank you
Just to be clear, i hate to asume but cwm is clockwork mod right?

dr mcknight said:
Ok one more question.
I have done a full back up, if i want to try a different rom, i flash the same way. If i dont like it i can restore using the backup i made and everything goes back to how it is now? Including how my home screen is now and widgets?
Thank you everyone!
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Generally, this is correct.
Each Rom cook usually posts the procedures needed to install their rom. Usually, game data, downloaded files and such, is saved. Usually, but not always. Things on the ext sd card are not effected by this process. Usually the procedures are the same. Wipe data, cache, dalvik cache. Sometimes we like to throw in some formats. Especially with the newer roms.
Your full system recovery, should be done through your CWM recovery or RA Recovery, whichever you use, and NOT using an internal application. And this should be done before you install a rom. It will save your current system, widgets, etc, so your system is just like it was before you installed a different rom.

ok this might be a little pointless but I still cannot find a working method to root stock 3.2 help please

thedeadend100 said:
ok this might be a little pointless but I still cannot find a working method to root stock 3.2 help please
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try this
http://youtu.be/zfSPP8UOn78
worked for me no problem

rrroach said:
Why did you do it if you didn't already know the answer? Anyways, you can overclock, undervolt, have ROMs like MIUI and CM7, free wifi tethering, and more stuff.
Sent from my LG-P999 using XDA App
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MIUI or CM7 in A500?????

anikiup said:
MIUI or CM7 in A500?????
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what is your q referring to?

dr mcknight said:
what is your q referring to?
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I am referring to this section:
have ROMs like MIUI and CM7

[Q] CM9 daily use

Hi,
I just wanted to ask, which one of the cm9 builds is better for daily use, and why?
What are the major/minor bugs in both of them?
Thanks in advance

I'm using CM9 from Turl... it's very stable... Only issue I have is that some games FC.

thanks, what abaut the battery life? does hdmi-out work?

Fantastic battery life all things considered. Its my daily. Switched over from joker to turl, find it more stable

Current Turl1's v8 CM9 is OK for my day-to-day life.
Some features are not implemented (profiles), some are in process of fixings (camcorder) etc.
Some apps FC from time to time or even always.
But for my d2d it's OK.

In my opinion, Turl's v8 is a little bit more stable than Joker's. Both far from perfect tough. I went back to GB for now...i might just wait till the firsts official ICS leaks for our device.
Sent from my MB860 using XDA App

same as DJLuis, Turl is the most stable but still some glitches, missing features and dodgy camera implementation.
Also back on GB Notachtrix now until official or leaked

i used joker's rom for a while!!
but some things are broken though !!
the fp scanner, laggy video playback on default player (3rd party video player does the job) !! camcorder, etc !!
some minor call bugs also !!
back to morrisoft cm7 rom !!

Thanks for all the answers.
I think i`ll first use a cm7 rom.
So if i want to unlock my bootloader, this also works for firmware 4.5.141 ,doesn´t it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871

Give a read through this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1501532
A lot of people are having problems unlocking and rooting with 4.5.141. That thread gives detailed step-by step instructions on what to do.
As for CM9, I have been using it since day 1 and have been nothing but pleased. It is true, a few things don't work. but it's only a matter of time, I believe, before we get a fully functional ROM. You may want to try it out just to satisfy your curiosity. Just as a forewarning, you do have to do a full system wipe when switching between CM7 and CM9. That being said, it may be easier to just try out CM9 and if you're not pleased revert to CM7. It'll be a lot more painful to get everything set up on CM7 only to have an updated CM9 appeal to you again in a few weeks and have to wipe everything.
And yes, I do believe CM9 has HDMI out.
Good luck unlocking! Btw, I have been using joker's builds from the very beginning. I have been more pleased with them than with Turl1s.

Thanks, I already read this thread, but it´s more about having problems, when updating from 4.5.91 to 4.5.141, if you´ve had an unlocked bootloader at 4.5.91
I can just find links to this thread
( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871 )
which i had mentionend before. so this should work.?

anyone?
sorry for my impatience, but i´m really afraid of hard-bricking my phone...

I used that script and I had stock gingerbread 4.5.91. I have no idea what version firmware you are talking about since I haven't been on official firmware since then
- make sure you are AT&T Atrix, that script is only for AT&T
- if this is some later AT&T update then I'm afraid you'll have to search yourself.

Wipe necessary even though they tell you it isn´t
On Joker´s website, it says that wipe is not necessary between versions of CM9. I tend to disagree, as I have had multiple issues with Gmaps, App management, etc... that just disappeared after a fastboot wipe.
I think a lot of problems discussed here are due to dirty flashes and I would advise strongly to wipe when installing a new rom.

ok.
Is there anyone, who unlocked his bootloader on firmware 4.9.141 ?
I couldn´t find concrete instructions or how to´s

Danger! If you start down the cm9 path forever will it dominate... etc.
In all seriousness its buttery smoothness and updated time and date entry systems, cut paste, etc. and general os features improve all your apps and make it impossible to ignore so avoid until ready or be prepared to be a beta tester for quite a while!
Matt
Sent from my MB860 using XDA

I'm using jokersax 0.3 beta. It works great the only bugs I have is no video recorder and switching from portrait to landscape in browser causes a force close

metlca said:
anyone?
sorry for my impatience, but i´m really afraid of hard-bricking my phone...
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just follow the instructions here and u'll do fine....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
mine works like a charm, as for roms...., if u r going for CM7, u got a a lotta choices and idk what to recommend u.
but... if u r looking for CM9, turl's v8 is a good place to start.....
but if ur gonna use CM9, as new n improved rom come out almost every week, get comfortable to wiping data, flashing new rom and restoring backups very often....
for backups, use titanium backup for ur apps...and MyBackup from rerware for your sms, call logs and contact or let google restores your contact if u enable the backup and restore in the setting...

pho_lone said:
just follow the instructions here and u'll do fine....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1302423
mine works like a charm, as for roms...., if u r going for CM7, u got a a lotta choices and idk what to recommend u.
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Thank You
So did you unlock your bootloader on firmware 4.9.141 and it worked fine ?

Widgets
Feeling pretty noobish right now...flashed from CM7 to Jokersax CM9 .31 today and I love the look and feel of it. How do you load widgets in CM9? I use the phone for business and Touchdown for Exchange for my email. I use one of the Touchdown widgets to be able to instantly view new email without opening the full blown app. But with CM9 I can't figure out how to load the widget.
Like I said, feeling pretty noobish right now. Help please.

help me root/rom

I have broken my htc one I got from my brother so I am back to using the sgs4 I have, never planed to use the htc one for so long it just happens that way because of the speakers I used it to play music at work anyways I am going to use the sgs4 and root/rom it
I have rooted/romed in the past with my sgs1 using cm9 and used odin so I understand most thigns
not sure what info is useless here since I have been out of this for a while now, I actually posted about this same topic a while ago but then I got a htc one and with my ADD I forgot about this
Code:
Android 4.3
Software L720VPUEMK2
Hardware: L720.08
Baseband L720VPUEMK2
Kernel 3.4.0-1927016 [email protected]#1 Sat Nov 16 11:05:09 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.L720VPUEMK2
SELinux Status: Enforcing SEPF_SPH-L720_4.3_0012
I assume I have to root first and then go from there - or can I just odin and have everything I need? I hate using odin so I want to use that as little as I can
do I have to odin since I have everything updated stock?
basically I am asking what do I have to do now, I have been reading for a few hours now and I have been out of this scene for a while now and its hard to get the answers by reading everything since there is lots of stuff not related to what I want and people have been doing this for a while and the phone has been out for a while now so its hard not being in this from the beginning
thanks for your help

leftkidney said:
I have broken my htc one I got from my brother so I am back to using the sgs4 I have, never planed to use the htc one for so long it just happens that way because of the speakers I used it to play music at work anyways I am going to use the sgs4 and root/rom it
I have rooted/romed in the past with my sgs1 using cm9 and used odin so I understand most thigns
not sure what info is useless here since I have been out of this for a while now, I actually posted about this same topic a while ago but then I got a htc one and with my ADD I forgot about this
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Android 4.3
Software L720VPUEMK2
Hardware: L720.08
Baseband L720VPUEMK2
Kernel 3.4.0-1927016 [email protected]#1 Sat Nov 16 11:05:09 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.L720VPUEMK2
SELinux Status: Enforcing SEPF_SPH-L720_4.3_0012
I assume I have to root first and then go from there - or can I just odin and have everything I need? I hate using odin so I want to use that as little as I can
do I have to odin since I have everything updated stock?
basically I am asking what do I have to do now, I have been reading for a few hours now and I have been out of this scene for a while now and its hard to get the answers by reading everything since there is lots of stuff not related to what I want and people have been doing this for a while and the phone has been out for a while now so its hard not being in this from the beginning
thanks for your help
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Start here.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827

Safe Root works great for our phone. Here is the link: http://www.droidviews.com/root-verizon-galaxy-s4-sch-i545-on-android-4-3-vruemk2/ . I know, it takes you off of xda, but you can root your phone with out using odin. It is quick and easy. You can then install a twrp through goo manager. No need to use odin for that. Good luck.

I used CF Auto root. Its awesome.
Then I used ROM manager from the market to flash in CWM.
In my reading I saw most.the recoveries being used were Philz and TWRP.
So after I let ROM manager flash CWM I DL.the latest Philz zip and flashed it from recovery.
Made many a nandroid and jump from TW to AOSP every day. *****The one thing you need to know is....have SE Linux checked under misc nandroid settings****otherwise it's no fun.
If you say "Please" be sure to "Hit Thanks!!!"

btoddweber said:
I used CF Auto root. Its awesome.
Then I used ROM manager from the market to flash in CWM.
In my reading I saw most.the recoveries being used were Philz and TWRP.
So after I let ROM manager flash CWM I DL.the latest Philz zip and flashed it from recovery.
Made many a nandroid and jump from TW to AOSP every day. *****The one thing you need to know is....have SE Linux checked under misc nandroid settings****otherwise it's no fun.
If you say "Please" be sure to "Hit Thanks!!!"
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so I have used cf auto root and installed cwm the rommanager that worked pretty well
I will assume that installing roms is the same as before after this
I am glad to see that things have been simplified here I will post back if I have problems again
I am wondering what is the best rom for me, I dont really care much if I have the touchwiz I used midnightrom and CM9 on my sgs1 epic before and loved it the lack of touchwiz wasnt a problem for me - I dont like any of the samsung apps at all and never want to use the sprint apps, I would not like it if the widgets go away I use those for my btc prices and my mining rig hashrate
I could use a stock rom for this phone if all the crappy sprint apps have been removed
like I said I have been out of this game for a while and at the time CM9 was just about the best rom out so I used that, all the others were good just didnt have as many features

leftkidney said:
I am wondering what is the best rom for me
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Everyone has their own preferences, so you just need to look at what's available. The great thing about Android is that there are so many options, but that creates a fair amount of work too. With root you can delete whatever app you want, so bloatware isn't much of an issue. To see what apps are safe to remove, most ROM developers post what they remove. You can also freeze the apps using things like Titanium Backup, so that you can easily restore them if you decide you want something back.

nobody291 said:
Everyone has their own preferences, so you just need to look at what's available. The great thing about Android is that there are so many options, but that creates a fair amount of work too. With root you can delete whatever app you want, so bloatware isn't much of an issue. To see what apps are safe to remove, most ROM developers post what they remove. You can also freeze the apps using things like Titanium Backup, so that you can easily restore them if you decide you want something back.
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yea I know there are lots of roms, what are some of the most stable roms out - I can see that the cyanogenmod is only nightly builds nothing stable is that a problem, I havent seen CM in this forums on the first few pages so is it not one of the better ones anymore?
what are a few of the most stable roms that have most of the features that would be needed - nothing that has strange glitches like in the past there were problems with GPS working and a few other things

leftkidney said:
yea I know there are lots of roms, what are some of the most stable roms out - I can see that the cyanogenmod is only nightly builds nothing stable is that a problem, I havent seen CM in this forums on the first few pages so is it not one of the better ones anymore?
what are a few of the most stable roms that have most of the features that would be needed - nothing that has strange glitches like in the past there were problems with GPS working and a few other things
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What you are asking for is HERE in these forums. PLEASE do your own searching and research for these answers This particular question "..Best ROM" is one of the biggest no no's across all XDA.
Search, READ, experiment and you will find what suites you.
Good luck.

I am going to skirt the "best rom" issue and just drop a list of what has been good for me... If you try all of these you'll certainly find one that works for you. I have intentionally mixed up the order here to avoid hurting anyone's feelings.. LOL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588745
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512983
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312063
Take a weekend and try them all. Make backups of each as you go through them and your all set!

leaderbuilder said:
What you are asking for is HERE in these forums. PLEASE do your own searching and research for these answers This particular question "..Best ROM" is one of the biggest no no's across all XDA.
Search, READ, experiment and you will find what suites you.
Good luck.
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you are absolutely right I dont know why I even asked that "best rom" it was stupid I admit it I feel stupid about that one I dont want to say I mistyped but I wasnt thinking I totally understand the reason why its a bad question to ask and why there isnt a real answer so I am sorry and I do know its one of those things you dont ask I have read that in the past but I forgot or something
what I ment to say was mainly what roms are the most complete in the sense that they have all the things working that should be like gps/wifi/4g/lte things like that, in the past a few roms were missing things like that
are there any that certain apps wont work for? I use and rely on "no led" app I just love the way it shows the colored icons on screen

leftkidney said:
what I ment to say was mainly what roms are the most complete in the sense that they have all the things working
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The big split in ROMs is between touchwiz and AOSP. Touchwiz is Samsung's layer on top of the core Android Google produces. Some features like multi-window, the standard Samsung keyboard, air gesture, etc. rely on touchwiz to work. I'm sure you can find a complete list of what relies on touchwiz to see if any of it is important to you. I think most ROMs will have all radios working, but like others have said, just make sure to have backups of your current setup to go back to and experiment, and since you already have the MK2 modem, make sure whatever ROM you choose is compatible with MK2. It doesn't take all that long to flash different ROMs and see what you think.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but custom ROMs just take existing modules and combine them to save you work. But, you can start with the stock rooted ROM and build your own experience from there too. Check out the hotspot mod, custom kernels, Xposed modules, various themes, and build something that works for you.

nobody291 said:
The big split in ROMs is between touchwiz and AOSP. Touchwiz is Samsung's layer on top of the core Android Google produces. Some features like multi-window, the standard Samsung keyboard, air gesture, etc. rely on touchwiz to work. I'm sure you can find a complete list of what relies on touchwiz to see if any of it is important to you. I think most ROMs will have all radios working, but like others have said, just make sure to have backups of your current setup to go back to and experiment, and since you already have the MK2 modem, make sure whatever ROM you choose is compatible with MK2. It doesn't take all that long to flash different ROMs and see what you think.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but custom ROMs just take existing modules and combine them to save you work. But, you can start with the stock rooted ROM and build your own experience from there too. Check out the hotspot mod, custom kernels, Xposed modules, various themes, and build something that works for you.
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so yea I dont really like the touchwiz interface I liked using the stock android theme my last phone had using CM9 so touchwiz isnt really needed
I do need to be able to use widgets though like the ones for apps that show me the prices of gold/silver my bitcoins/litecoins and the mining speed from my miners using the api I have - dont some of the widgets need touchwiz to work, not the touchwiz widgets but the ones that apps create
I have installed roms before so I know its not hard but once you get into this things can get out of control and after a while you find your self having to use odin and then things get scary cuz lets face it who really likes using odin unless something has changed from last year odin is just about the only thing that could really brick your phone if something goes wrong
thanks for your help I will give it a go and hope nothing bad happens

If you don't like touchwiz, but want the full functionality of you phone features. Why not use a different launcher? There are a lot to choose from.

leftkidney said:
dont some of the widgets need touchwiz to work
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In my experience, there are Samsung widgets that not only require touchwiz, but also require Samsung's launcher. I use several widgets designed for multiple Android devices, and I don't think they care about touchwiz.

cruise350 said:
If you don't like touchwiz, but want the full functionality of you phone features. Why not use a different launcher? There are a lot to choose from.
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you mean just install a different launcher?
I dont want any of the sprint crap on the phone either no need for sprint news and all that crap
wouldnt just installing a different launcher just be a skin you cant remove touchwiz from what I remember so I need a rom that doesent have touchwiz in it

leftkidney said:
you mean just install a different launcher?
I dont want any of the sprint crap on the phone either no need for sprint news and all that crap
wouldnt just installing a different launcher just be a skin you cant remove touchwiz from what I remember so I need a rom that doesent have touchwiz in it
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Yes, you had stressed earlier that you wanted all things working. If you want any of the S features to work on your phone than you need to keep touchwiz as your base rom. Installing a different launcher can give you that. If you like the look of AOSP, there is a new google now launcher that can provide more of an AOSP look. You can remove a lot of the bloat and sprint stuff fairly easily with TiBu or a root file explorer. Just be cautious, removing some of the Sprint stuff will screw up your phone and cause the ability to update PRL or Profile to fail.

cruise350 said:
Yes, you had stressed earlier that you wanted all things working. If you want any of the S features to work on your phone than you need to keep touchwiz as your base rom. Installing a different launcher can give you that. If you like the look of AOSP, there is a new google now launcher that can provide more of an AOSP look. You can remove a lot of the bloat and sprint stuff fairly easily with TiBu or a root file explorer. Just be cautious, removing some of the Sprint stuff will screw up your phone and cause the ability to update PRL or Profile to fail.
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yea wanted all things working but I guess after looking at it I dont use much of the "S" features if at all so I will just have to try some out and see whats up
one thing I was wondering about is the "gapps" in the past I had to make sure it was the exact right one for the exact rom I was using but now I dont see much about saying a specific version of gapps for the roms rather just to install gapps and get the latest one - so the gapps that would be for the sprint phone should work for the roms?
I do however like the feature where you wave your hand over the screen when its off and it lights up to show you the time and info, it would suck if that went away but I can deal with it

I would like to know if there are any problems with using the samsung tec tiles, those NFC sticker tags with other roms that wouldnt have any touchwiz stuff
I assume that they are just NFC so they should work but I want to be sure

I havent installed a rom yet been busy - but I did get root
I noticed I have an OTA update waiting, I assume its 4.4 so if I update will I have problems rooting or remove root and make installing roms hard?