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i mean ive paid 600 dollars for this phone because i always wanted the latest updates from google. and now its kind of getting boring lol. i was just wondering is it worth rooting? what are the advantages. and is there "odin" to this phone like there was for vibrant. meaning is this unbrickable also? and what is the best rom out there for nexus s.
and also what if i have custom rom and can i go back to stock and still get google updates ota?
Root gives you access to custom kernels that can overclock and give you voodoo sound (awesome) but you must be aware it is not prefect yet...but I enjoy the niggles and when fixes are made by our clever devs the roms are cool...all a bit different and you will always get latest android anyway through these. It is up to you if you want a nexus that evolves and improves beyond what Google imagined....but you gotta put up with a few reboots, force closes and reflashings along the way. I personally am a bit obsessed....now where is that next super kernel!
Plus I should add that as I understand you would have to try hard to brick it. Always do a nandroid backup and your covered....back up your present stock rom and its always there to return to.
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Plus I should add that as I understand you would have to try hard to brick it. Always do a nandroid backup and your covered....back up your present stock rom and its always there to return to.
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cool thanks.. whats the rom you are using? and i am not a fan of oc kernals. i think they eat battery. its bad enough on android as it is lol. hows the battery life on custom roms?
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cool thanks.. whats the rom you are using? and i am not a fan of oc kernals. i think they eat battery. its bad enough on android as it is lol. hows the battery life on custom roms?
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I ran MoDaCo for a bit with Netarchy's kernel and I must say, the battery life was better than no OC. If you don't want to run the overclock, you can install SetCPU and clock it down to 1GHz while adding the VooDoo sound drivers and the better battery life.
If I may throw my two cents in, I rooted my Nexus S but didn't really see a need personally to try roms or over-clocked kernels. Coming from the Captivate, I find this phone to be way superior in terms of speed and performance. So I don't see a need for myself to flash any roms or kernels at this time. That being said, there are advantages to rooting, if only to change or add apps that require root.. Case in point, I installed (after having to push it through adb) Keyboard Manager, which enables you to use different keyboards depending on the orientation of your phone. Only by having root access can you install apps like that. So i definitely see a purpose for rooting other than flashing roms/kernels. Luckily, it's relatively easy to return to stock if needed.
It's absolutely worth it to root. I can't stress it enough. Right now its slow, and may not seem worth it till cyan gets all the extras into his ROM, and more kernels and ROM's pop up. But once that happens, it is a must have to root.
I'm running Cm7 Build 24 with a Trinity 1.0 ghz Kernal. Great work! props to the devs.
Installing custom roms and being able to customize my phone is what I love about android. I used to be a Iphone user, owned every single model.
cm7 is a wonderful rom.
Yes.
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Root gives you access to custom kernels that can overclock and give you voodoo sound (awesome) but you must be aware it is not prefect yet...but I enjoy the niggles and when fixes are made by our clever devs the roms are cool...all a bit different and you will always get latest android anyway through these. It is up to you if you want a nexus that evolves and improves beyond what Google imagined....but you gotta put up with a few reboots, force closes and reflashings along the way. I personally am a bit obsessed....now where is that next super kernel!
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i am not familiar with voodoo sound. what is that? i actually never witnessed a random reboot on my nexus s. may be because its stock
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If I may throw my two cents in, I rooted my Nexus S but didn't really see a need personally to try roms or over-clocked kernels. Coming from the Captivate, I find this phone to be way superior in terms of speed and performance. So I don't see a need for myself to flash any roms or kernels at this time. That being said, there are advantages to rooting, if only to change or add apps that require root.. Case in point, I installed (after having to push it through adb) Keyboard Manager, which enables you to use different keyboards depending on the orientation of your phone. Only by having root access can you install apps like that. So i definitely see a purpose for rooting other than flashing roms/kernels. Luckily, it's relatively easy to return to stock if needed.
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I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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its in the themes and apps section of Android Hacking here on XDA. Give a quick search and you'll find it.
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i am not familiar with voodoo sound. what is that? i actually never witnessed a random reboot on my nexus s. may be because its stock
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voodoo sound is a repository that makes the sound 1000 times better
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I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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As someone stated, it's in the App forum, just search Keyboard Manager. Fair warning, I had issues installing it so had to push it through adb, as I stated in my post. It worked wonderfully and was able to switch between keyboards no problem, great if you have several keyboards installed.
i m on 2.3.2 can i still root? i downloaded the android 2.3 sdk and trying to follow the guide but there is no usb drivers in that sdk. where do i get it from?
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As someone stated, it's in the App forum, just search Keyboard Manager. Fair warning, I had issues installing it so had to push it through adb, as I stated in my post. It worked wonderfully and was able to switch between keyboards no problem, great if you have several keyboards installed.
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Awesome thanks guys. Ill look for it and try it out. Much appreciated
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guys i have rooted and unlocked my nexus s but after a reboot i loose the clockwork image is that normal? and can i flash a rom now/
that honestly shouldn't even be a question android = open source, open source = custom kernels,custom roms,custom everything basically....android = made to be rooted...
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guys i have rooted and unlocked my nexus s but after a reboot i loose the clockwork image is that normal? and can i flash a rom now/
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Yes this is normal its a safety precaution install rom manager and everytime you want to go to recovery without having to reflash in bootloader just go into rom manager and hit go to recovery or hold power button reboot then recovery and you will get to clockword
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i m on 2.3.2 can i still root? i downloaded the android 2.3 sdk and trying to follow the guide but there is no usb drivers in that sdk. where do i get it from?
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Follow my guide, the full one is available here (my blog) http://completeandroid.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/complete-guide-to-rooting-the-nexus-s/
or the XDA thread version (doesn't have pictures) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935819
Basically you have to run the SDK manager and install the USB drivers separately, and also install the PDAnet software for extra drivers (I found it helps when using connecting to the NS in fastboot mode).
Custom kernels are evolving...massive overclock or an undervolted battery saver are available. If you got the time and inclination you can try every combo of rom/kernel going....and always have your stock rom only a recovery away.
With the surge of some ROMs for our devices, and though they're related between each other to a certain degree (save for CM7), the inevitable question surges: which one has the upper hand? The stock ROM is vastly improved since 1.06 and Ganjaman's add-ons make it more mature, the MoDaCo ROM has the advantage of having been the first modded ROM, CyanogenMod7, thanks to Apache14's work, has made a stellar appearance and we actually get the official updates (such as the ones that mad-murdock presented us yesterday), Corvus has been updating his new ROM quite rapidly and it works nicely, like Fuji-Vega does... We're lucky that we're not in want of possible choices! But which is yours?
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For me corvus. It's so quick and stable, and is the only one, where's my usb 3g huawei running. Did I told you, that it's really fast?
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I agree totally, corvus is so quick. I can't wait until it can be combined with mad murdoch's HC tweaks, the vega will be Ninja then!
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great idea for a thread. I'm considering starting a thread on a similar line, thought id check in and avoid toe treading and see if there is a need for it.
As a newb to vega android modding, its great that there is such a wealth of info and advice, but sometimes its not clear or comprehensive (at least in one place! )
I'd like to run a "what vega setup is best for me" thread. The aim being to allow users to show exactly what setup they are running, how it performs, pro's and cons, bugs etc.
By using a standard template, we can see what works and why. We can make direct comparisons between setups without searching through threads for hours.
Users can then copy setups and try if they think they like it. Might also provide devs useful concise feedback to help them progress roms / kernels etc.
If it already exists, feel free to point me in the right direction whilst mocking my newbe stupidity, but ive read and re read the main threads and can't see it.
If you're reading this and think it would be useful, let me know, with suggestions and i'll get the ball rolling.
I.A.O.
Edit: if you want to help or collaborate, pm me.
I'm not sure how setting up a "standard configuration" would be of benefit. Primarily because of two issues: first, the same custom ROM can have dramatic performance differences between one device and the other (I am a ROM tester for Galaxy S, people claim battery lives of 4 days which I've never heard about); and second, the point of Android is that it actually doesn't force any standardisation as of now: I don't see why users would tend to a certain set up which has been done by another person instead of experimenting themselves.
Don't take me wrong, I appreciate that you take interest in this thread, but I fail to see the point of your suggestion. Android has no predefined "set-ups" as far as I know.
Yeah, i get your point. For me too its all about modding and tweaking. But i also got the impression that some people just want to get there device configured in a way that works for them quickly.
Im certainly Not saying lets all set up the same, if we wanted that we'd just bite the apple right!
I just think it would be useful to see at a glance what is working for people. I.e - "i need a rom with no lag on my vega - ah looks like cm7 ttrc2 has lag issues", without having to read 178 pages to find out.
I guess it would be more like an "at a glance" guide to roms for each device.
I used Modaco since i got my Mobii/Vega, but yesterday i flashed clockwork recovery and started using Titanium backup for real, so now i am testing some ROMs and sofar i like fuji-vega the most, fast and smooth, only some lag in appmenu when i have the device rooted.
I spent a long time using mcr8 eventually with buzz kernel but I then got bored and tried cm7 which I loved but just could not stand all the lag when scrolling etc.
I am now using corvus which seems to work well for me. I hope to switch back to cm7 when it improves a bit.
I love CM7 on my phone and would love it on the Vega, but the wifi troubles it has at this moment on the Vega made me switch to first Modaco and than Corvus. The only bad thing I can say about Corvus is that I personally would prefer Gingerbread green icons aboive the blue ones in Corvus
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I used Modaco since i got my Mobii/Vega, but yesterday i flashed clockwork recovery and started using Titanium backup for real, so now i am testing some ROMs and sofar i like fuji-vega the most, fast and smooth, only some lag in appmenu when i have the device rooted.
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I am in a similar position to you. I have only installed Modaco R8 and not really used Titanium Backup nor Clockwork Recovery. I find R8 lags after extended use (requiring a reboot) so I am interesting in changing to Corvus. I have a few questions.
What is the best way to move from Modaco to Corvus?
Can I use Clockwork Recovery/Titanium to ease the pain of transition?
How do I install CWR?
Is it best to go back to stock and then install Corvus? If so, will I lose all of my customisations?
Thanks in anticipation of a response.
What is the best way to move from Modaco to Corvus?
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I would do a Ti Backup of everything, then a nandroid backup before flashing.
Can I use Clockwork Recovery/Titanium to ease the pain of transition?
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Definitely use both of these, pay for Ti Backup to enable auto batch stuff
How do I install CWR?
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Try THIS thread
Is it best to go back to stock and then install Corvus? If so, will I lose all of my customisations?
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You would want to wipe when doing an install of a different rom anyway, so you will lose settings, most will be restored by Ti Backup though.
> I would do a Ti Backup of everything, then a nandroid backup before flashing.
Sorry, how do I do that? I have Modaco R8 with Titanium Backup installed. How do I use Ti to "backup everything", what is a "nandroid backup", and how do I restore stuff after installing a new ROM?
Cheers.
you can find this information quite easily by searching
ti backup press menu>batch>backup all user apps and system data
Then after installing cwm (download zip open
cd /path/to/folder
./install.sh for mac and linux (make sure to downlod my fixed scripts second post)
or
click install.bat for windows
then click recovery app use volume buttons and power to select backup and restore)
wipe data instal rom
ti backup from market
menu>batch>restore all user apps and system data (modaco is similar to corvus so should be safe to restore everything if things start crashing repeat install and untick all apps that are already installed in ti backup)
there you go you have transitioned
sorry if this sounds patronising it sounded like you were a noob so i included great detail
p.s. this will all become second nature after a while
hmmm atm i'm using CM7, and after switching to launcher pro it's so fast !!
adw launcher is such a crappy launcher (sry, my opinion)
anyways, my flash is pretty laggy due to the unstable nightly builds, I mean they're not in the fully power.. but I will wait, <3 cyanogem
I wish we had the HC update soon, rly =(
Ive been using Fuji-Vega since april and applying updates when they become available.
Really happy with it and cant complain. Does what i need it to do.
Very quick to use.
Corvus5 for me right now. it's stable and fast as, with oc I have been using cm7 until a few days ago and will no doubt give the latest a shot before the weekends gone, it now has oc kernel
I can't use custom ROMs because nor CM neither Corvus doesn't let my Huawei e150 connect to internet. When I'll solve this problem CM'll my choice.
CM7 for me. I've tried a few but CM7 just feels/looks slicker.
Will there ever be a fully working honeycomb rom?
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Ok so I know you guys here in the G2 forums already have some pretty nice recoveries but I thought I would offer mine as well
I don't have a G2 device so there's really no way for me to test out anything so I need some testers before I post working versions of the recoveries on rom manager. If your interested in testing post here or pm me and we'll go from there. I will be checking back on this thread and pm's.
Recovery features:
- These recoveries are based on Clockworkmod recovery meaning it will work with rom manager if you like to use rom manager to download various things and receive OTA notifications.
- If these recoveries are good I will be posting roms on rom manager for vision.
- These recoveries support EXT4 partitioning, meaning if you format or wipe any partitions they will be EXT4 and not EXT3 like the normal Clockworkmod recoveries.
- The UI of these recoveries are heavily modified and themed. Currently I have three versions, Green, Blue, and Red. I will be taking request on more themes.
Once this is confirmed working or not I will build and allow testing of more themed versions
Sreenshots
Main Menu: http://db.tt/b6jCh08B
Nandroid Backup: http://db.tt/BLZIqw8D
Install .zip: http://db.tt/38q2c56n
Alright I fixed the screenshots not sure why they not working before :/
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Hitting the thanks button is soo much easier then typing thanks!
I'll test them. My g2 is anxious for new stuff.
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I'll test them. My g2 is anxious for new stuff.
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Thanks sent you a pm
ive been testing recoveries for the Kindle Fire and thought id offer my help with the Vision. hit me if you need help. I vaguely recall testing your kernels with the Dream back in the fierat devvin days.
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ive been testing recoveries for the Kindle Fire and thought id offer my help with the Vision. hit me if you need help. I vaguely recall testing your kernels with the Dream back in the fierat devvin days.
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oh yeah accually I wasn't compiling my own kernels back then like I am now I was just using pershoot's kernel lol. So far everything seems to be working but it's only been tested by one person so far. I'll send you a pm.
Alright I'm building the last blue version now then I should be ready to release these. Thanks to both testers I'll make sure and give you guys credit for taking your time to test these.
Thought I posted this yesterday but cant find it - so reposting
I flashed green hat recovery on Sat night and exhausted everything in the recovery menu except for sdcard partitioning -- could not find a bug anywhere. Everything worked at par for the course.
I especially liked how when the phone is off - and charging -- green hat recovery turns on -- so when Im done charging I can start off in recovery... (this was a "bug" with the older Clockwork Recoveries (beginning of v4-5) but I never saw it as a bug -- but as a feature. I hope you dont fix this!)
used all tools in reboot, confirmed this works directly from ROM Manager, did nandroid backup and restore to older build made last year, did advanced restore, bla bla - everything. No issues.
Well, let me know if you need more testing.
Awsome thanks IDK why the versions on my device still use charging while off like the newer recoveries do. Oh well I think I noticed koush mention a bug about this for G2 and how HTC charging while off is already a method that is not not compatible with the newer recoveries. Like you said the phone will still charge in recovery and reboot options are there but just kinda sucks if the led light doesn't show to tell you how charged it is.
Doesnt matter -- dont fixit please! Im trying to figure out how to make this happen on my Kindle Fire as well --- everyone calls it a bug... but its not a bug!
WOW I cant wait for this to be out! Great job! I have been following your work for a while now and am all excited! I like the idea of being able to wipe cache/data/sd ext.
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Doesnt matter -- dont fixit please! Im trying to figure out how to make this happen on my Kindle Fire as well --- everyone calls it a bug... but its not a bug!
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Aw ok, well I guess I'll go ahead and release with the info that htc charging does not work anymore but this will still work great with rom manager. Thanks for the feedback I'll work on uploading later on today on rom manager.
Just picked up a new galaxy tablet 7.0 (8GB) about a week ago. Great device so far and love it. I just can't stand the preloaded bloatware on the device and the space its taking up. It's currently running version 4.0.4
I've read up a bit up on ROMS and rooting the device. Seem pretty comfortable with it just have a few questions.
1) Do I need an SD card in the device in order to root it?
2) Best rom out there? Appears like the most talked about rom is the Cyanogen Mod 10?
No you don't need an SD Card but you may as well get one as you will need it once you start making nandroid back ups. Your tab fill up quickly ! Not to mention media and apps on top of that as well. Bigger the better to be honest.
No such thing as the best ROM, Once you are rooted try them all out and find one that suits your needs. I love AOKP M1( link in my sig) as you can customize it more than CM10 and has better features IMO.
If you dont want to customize it , try a deodexed stock based ROM with all the bloat removed, ROMSWELL makes some cool ROMS. Search the DEV section of this forum.
As i said its a personal choice , so flash them and try them out. Wont cost you anything apart from some time..... If you need help just ask and someone will give you some advice. Don't forget to flash some GApps ( Goggle Applications) as they are not normally included in a ROM due to copyright issues.
Most of all have fun. :laugh:
Oh id go for a JellyBean based ROM , nothing wrong with ICS , just the latest version out (4.2 is around the corner as well with some cool new stuff )
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No you don't need an SD Card but you may as well get one as you will need it once you start making nandroid back ups. Your tab fill up quickly ! Not to mention media and apps on top of that as well. Bigger the better to be honest.
No such thing as the best ROM, Once you are rooted try them all out and find one that suits your needs. I love AOKP M1( link in my sig) as you can customize it more than CM10 and has better features IMO.
If you dont want to customize it , try a deodexed stock based ROM with all the bloat removed, ROMSWELL makes some cool ROMS. Search the DEV section of this forum.
As i said its a personal choice , so flash them and try them out. Wont cost you anything apart from some time..... If you need help just ask and someone will give you some advice. Don't forget to flash some GApps ( Goggle Applications) as they are not normally included in a ROM due to copyright issues.
Most of all have fun. :laugh:
Oh id go for a JellyBean based ROM , nothing wrong with ICS , just the latest version out (4.2 is around the corner as well with some cool new stuff )
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Thanks for the info! So the 4.0.4 is not jelly bean but its ICS?
How can I not download Jelly bean.. when I try to do an update it says its the most recent one..
I did see that some ROMS allow you to OC the device, so squeezing that extra little juice out of it I wouldn't mind either
Yeah you're trying to update "stock" and its not been released as yet to the general public.....So flash a custom ROM (once you have root)
Once you root , forget about Samsung updates as they wont work any more, But the XDA community devs do that for us much quicker than Samsung does !
Heres a rough guide from Codeworkx (CM10)
First time installing CyanogenMod 10 to your Galaxy Tab 2, or coming from another ROM:
- Make sure you're running a proper working ClockworkMod-Recovery
- Copy GApps and CM10 ZIPs to your internal SDCard ( or the external SD Card )
- Boot into Recovery
- Flash CM10 zip from internal SDCard
- Flash GApps zip from internal SDCard
- DO A DATA WIPE / FACTORY RESET
- Reboot
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The ROM you are running is Ice Cream Sandwich, comes as a "stock" standard on our tabs, CM10 and AOKP are both JellyBean, Some other customs ROMs are as well. Both are under/over-clockable and both can use custom kernels as well. Both VERY stable and have very good support threads by the devs that compiled them.
How to ROOT your Tab
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Yeah you're trying to update "stock" and its not been released as yet to the general public.....So flash a custom ROM (once you have root)
Once you root , forget about Samsung updates as they wont work any more, But the XDA community devs do that for us much quicker than Samsung does !
Heres a rough guide from Codeworkx (CM10)
The ROM you are running is Ice Cream Sandwich, comes as a "stock" standard on our tabs, CM10 and AOKP are both JellyBean, Some other customs ROMs are as well. Both are under/over-clockable and both can use custom kernels as well. Both VERY stable and have very good support threads by the devs that compiled them.
How to ROOT your Tab
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Thanks for your help! Great info there. Are any of these ROMS more complex than the other? I just don't want to get into it too deep or too complex and having more of a issue getting things up and running properly or are these all the same complexity when installed? ie.. customization etc..
Aokp is very similar to CM based ROMs. They are as easy to set up as a stock ROM, only they allow for more tweaks than a factory ROM. The only thing that you have a to do with a custom rom is flash gapps(Google apps) usually in the rom thread. Read, reread, and grow a pair. The fear will turn into a high that draws you in. There is a reason that the term crack-flashing was born. It is very simple to do it on this tablet. If you have any trouble pm me, or post here, and I will walk you through it. I just did it a couple of days ago for my daughters. Good luck
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At first try stable roms like AOKP JB milesone 1
As JeramyEggs said , just jump in and get wet ! They are all pretty much the same , I just prefer AOKP as I can customize it a little bit more than the others. I really dont like the way CM10 handles the navigation bar , where as AOKP lets you do as you wish to it. And I like the toggles it uses as well.
Dump stock what ever you do, Dont get me wrong I love the Samsung stock ROMs as they look stunning and the widgets are top class.The music/video players are quality. You will also gain some space on your tab as well. Stock ROMs are around 750MB and custom ROMs are normally under 200MB
Stock has no theme engine as such , that means if you want to change the way it looks ( other than wallpapers) you will have to start decompiling some system .apks ( Applications ) and it gets a tad tricky messing with .xmls.and getting it all working again.
With the theme engine in place you have 100s of themes to choose from ( over 500 in fact) and plenty of mods you can flash as well, You can even edit themes either online or on your PC with some XDA made applciations ( I use "tickle my android" personally to make themes / Edit apks like widgets n stuff )
CM10/AOKP are always being updated ( But AOKP has stopped development for the moment as I mentioned above , until 4,2 is ported) CM10 has a preview build out already.Both ROMs have a ROM control option to pimp your device up as well.
If you look through this thread , you can see most of the main ROMs and what we all do with them. :laugh:
I tend to flash most of the new ROMs just to try them out. When I'm done messing around with it all I do is boot into recovery and restore my nandroid back up and I'm back to the way I was .Its kinda like system restore on a Windows PC.
Get stuck on anything , just ask as most of the forum members are all pretty cool and more than willing to help out.
My advice is......GO FOR IT !!11!!!1 What you got to lose ?
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As JeramyEggs said , just jump in and get wet ! They are all pretty much the same , I just prefer AOKP as I can customize it a little bit more than the others. I really dont like the way CM10 handles the navigation bar , where as AOKP lets you do as you wish to it. And I like the toggles it uses as well.
Dump stock what ever you do, Dont get me wrong I love the Samsung stock ROMs as they look stunning and the widgets are top class.The music/video players are quality. You will also gain some space on your tab as well. Stock ROMs are around 750MB and custom ROMs are normally under 200MB
Stock has no theme engine as such , that means if you want to change the way it looks ( other than wallpapers) you will have to start decompiling some system .apks ( Applications ) and it gets a tad tricky messing with .xmls.and getting it all working again.
With the theme engine in place you have 100s of themes to choose from ( over 500 in fact) and plenty of mods you can flash as well, You can even edit themes either online or on your PC with some XDA made applciations ( I use "tickle my android" personally to make themes / Edit apks like widgets n stuff )
CM10/AOKP are always being updated ( But AOKP has stopped development for the moment as I mentioned above , until 4,2 is ported) CM10 has a preview build out already.Both ROMs have a ROM control option to pimp your device up as well.
If you look through this thread , you can see most of the main ROMs and what we all do with them. :laugh:
I tend to flash most of the new ROMs just to try them out. When I'm done messing around with it all I do is boot into recovery and restore my nandroid back up and I'm back to the way I was .Its kinda like system restore on a Windows PC.
Get stuck on anything , just ask as most of the forum members are all pretty cool and more than willing to help out.
My advice is......GO FOR IT !!11!!!1 What you got to lose ?
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Reading some of this stuff I am overwhelmed. So in order to backup the device up I need to root it first?
I will start with the HOW TO ROOT YOUR TAB thing now and see how far I get..
So I started last night and let's say didn't get very far. Downloaded the neccessary files but for some stupid reason the Kies software (needed to install this to get the drivers installed for the tablet so I can transfer the contents to it) was not installing.
I left my laptop on during the night and it never finished installing the software. I obtained it right from the Samsung Support website.
Any idea what could be causing this?
Also, once I do get this software installed so that the device shows up under Windows Explorer so I can drag the neccessary .zip files to it. Is there a specific location on the device I should place the files on? I do not currently have a SD card in the tablet.
Oh and my device model is a GT-P3113
So I managed to install Kies.. Guess it was getting hung up on .NET framework 4. So I just downloaded and installed myself and then tried the Kies thing and it went right through the install.
So now I should be good to actually see the device in Windows Explorer once I plug it in.
My question still remains, any particular spot on the device I need to place the .zip files for rooting?
DHeffernan said:
So I managed to install Kies.. Guess it was getting hung up on .NET framework 4. So I just downloaded and installed myself and then tried the Kies thing and it went right through the install.
So now I should be good to actually see the device in Windows Explorer once I plug it in.
My question still remains, any particular spot on the device I need to place the .zip files for rooting?
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Anywhere you can easily find the tar.md5 file on your windows drive, the*cwm-root-gtab2.zip goes to*/mnt/extSdCard which is the root, don't place in a file. I rooted mine via http://rootzwiki.com/topic/25228-how-to-rooting-gt-p3113-step-by-step-updated-07182012/
acefsw said:
Anywhere you can easily find the tar.md5 file on your windows drive, the*cwm-root-gtab2.zip goes to*/mnt/extSdCard which is the root, don't place in a file. I rooted mine via http://rootzwiki.com/topic/25228-how-to-rooting-gt-p3113-step-by-step-updated-07182012/
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Okay.. so /mnt/extSdCard is if you have a SD card in the device.
But I do not have a SDcard, that is why i am actually asking does it matter where I place the files within the tablet internal storage due to not having a micro sd card.
DHeffernan said:
Okay.. so /mnt/extSdCard is if you have a SD card in the device.
But I do not have a SDcard, that is why i am actually asking does it matter where I place the files within the tablet internal storage due to not having a micro sd card.
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All the methods I've seen require an sd card
acefsw said:
All the methods I've seen require an sd card
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Hmm.. On my first post in this thread I asked if I needed a SD card to root the device and the reply I got back was "no you dont need one"
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Hmm.. On my first post in this thread I asked if I needed a SD card to root the device and the reply I got back was "no you dont need one"
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Well, do your own research. There is a table of contents in the 7" dev forum, go read the rooting method there and also in the general section. Also, I'm not responsible for what others post and, you can ask the other guy how he rooted his without an sd. I recommend reading about rooting before doing it. I will say this is the easiest device to root.
So I managed to root the device. Was pretty straight forward once I got going. I installed AOKP milestone 1 rom as per someones suggestion here saying it's stable. Overall it does look nicer now and smoother only a couple of questions.
1) I took a backup or the stock stuff before doing anything after performing the root. Now I noticed all the data is gone lol.. Is there anyway to get the data back? Mainly the game progress and all the other stuff?
2) I see AOKP has a theme function under it's settings, currently there is only 1 listed. Where does one obtain themes for it? It's not in the Play Store, is it?
3) Saw the overclocking option also, does that mean the overclock can be pumped up to 1200mhz?
Guess my main question now is whether or not I can get that data back lol..
If you performed a factory reset after flashing your custom ROM, which you should have anyway, I'm sorry to say you have lost your data.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
mrcreativity said:
If you performed a factory reset after flashing your custom ROM, which you should have anyway, I'm sorry to say you have lost your data.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
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Sure did.. Oh well now I'll know at least and look into the actual backup apps to backup game progress.
The .zip files I put on the table prior to rooting, like fix-recovery, the clockwork mod file as well as the actual ROM, can those be removed off the tablet now?
I played around a bit last night and I found the THEME Choose on the Play Store and I saw themes.
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So I managed to root the device. Was pretty straight forward once I got going. I installed AOKP milestone 1 rom as per someones suggestion here saying it's stable. Overall it does look nicer now and smoother only a couple of questions.
1) I took a backup or the stock stuff before doing anything after performing the root. Now I noticed all the data is gone lol.. Is there anyway to get the data back? Mainly the game progress and all the other stuff?
2) I see AOKP has a theme function under it's settings, currently there is only 1 listed. Where does one obtain themes for it? It's not in the Play Store, is it?
3) Saw the overclocking option also, does that mean the overclock can be pumped up to 1200mhz?
Guess my main question now is whether or not I can get that data back lol..
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1) which app do you use to back up? some apps only back up apk and some other back up the data too
2) you can find aokp/cm theme on playstore, usualy nice theme will cost more
3) yes you can overclock it via ROM control on setting
I have broken my htc one I got from my brother so I am back to using the sgs4 I have, never planed to use the htc one for so long it just happens that way because of the speakers I used it to play music at work anyways I am going to use the sgs4 and root/rom it
I have rooted/romed in the past with my sgs1 using cm9 and used odin so I understand most thigns
not sure what info is useless here since I have been out of this for a while now, I actually posted about this same topic a while ago but then I got a htc one and with my ADD I forgot about this
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Android 4.3
Software L720VPUEMK2
Hardware: L720.08
Baseband L720VPUEMK2
Kernel 3.4.0-1927016 [email protected]#1 Sat Nov 16 11:05:09 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.L720VPUEMK2
SELinux Status: Enforcing SEPF_SPH-L720_4.3_0012
I assume I have to root first and then go from there - or can I just odin and have everything I need? I hate using odin so I want to use that as little as I can
do I have to odin since I have everything updated stock?
basically I am asking what do I have to do now, I have been reading for a few hours now and I have been out of this scene for a while now and its hard to get the answers by reading everything since there is lots of stuff not related to what I want and people have been doing this for a while and the phone has been out for a while now so its hard not being in this from the beginning
thanks for your help
leftkidney said:
I have broken my htc one I got from my brother so I am back to using the sgs4 I have, never planed to use the htc one for so long it just happens that way because of the speakers I used it to play music at work anyways I am going to use the sgs4 and root/rom it
I have rooted/romed in the past with my sgs1 using cm9 and used odin so I understand most thigns
not sure what info is useless here since I have been out of this for a while now, I actually posted about this same topic a while ago but then I got a htc one and with my ADD I forgot about this
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Android 4.3
Software L720VPUEMK2
Hardware: L720.08
Baseband L720VPUEMK2
Kernel 3.4.0-1927016 [email protected]#1 Sat Nov 16 11:05:09 KST 2013
Build JSS15J.L720VPUEMK2
SELinux Status: Enforcing SEPF_SPH-L720_4.3_0012
I assume I have to root first and then go from there - or can I just odin and have everything I need? I hate using odin so I want to use that as little as I can
do I have to odin since I have everything updated stock?
basically I am asking what do I have to do now, I have been reading for a few hours now and I have been out of this scene for a while now and its hard to get the answers by reading everything since there is lots of stuff not related to what I want and people have been doing this for a while and the phone has been out for a while now so its hard not being in this from the beginning
thanks for your help
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Start here.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2291827
Safe Root works great for our phone. Here is the link: http://www.droidviews.com/root-verizon-galaxy-s4-sch-i545-on-android-4-3-vruemk2/ . I know, it takes you off of xda, but you can root your phone with out using odin. It is quick and easy. You can then install a twrp through goo manager. No need to use odin for that. Good luck.
I used CF Auto root. Its awesome.
Then I used ROM manager from the market to flash in CWM.
In my reading I saw most.the recoveries being used were Philz and TWRP.
So after I let ROM manager flash CWM I DL.the latest Philz zip and flashed it from recovery.
Made many a nandroid and jump from TW to AOSP every day. *****The one thing you need to know is....have SE Linux checked under misc nandroid settings****otherwise it's no fun.
If you say "Please" be sure to "Hit Thanks!!!"
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I used CF Auto root. Its awesome.
Then I used ROM manager from the market to flash in CWM.
In my reading I saw most.the recoveries being used were Philz and TWRP.
So after I let ROM manager flash CWM I DL.the latest Philz zip and flashed it from recovery.
Made many a nandroid and jump from TW to AOSP every day. *****The one thing you need to know is....have SE Linux checked under misc nandroid settings****otherwise it's no fun.
If you say "Please" be sure to "Hit Thanks!!!"
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so I have used cf auto root and installed cwm the rommanager that worked pretty well
I will assume that installing roms is the same as before after this
I am glad to see that things have been simplified here I will post back if I have problems again
I am wondering what is the best rom for me, I dont really care much if I have the touchwiz I used midnightrom and CM9 on my sgs1 epic before and loved it the lack of touchwiz wasnt a problem for me - I dont like any of the samsung apps at all and never want to use the sprint apps, I would not like it if the widgets go away I use those for my btc prices and my mining rig hashrate
I could use a stock rom for this phone if all the crappy sprint apps have been removed
like I said I have been out of this game for a while and at the time CM9 was just about the best rom out so I used that, all the others were good just didnt have as many features
leftkidney said:
I am wondering what is the best rom for me
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Everyone has their own preferences, so you just need to look at what's available. The great thing about Android is that there are so many options, but that creates a fair amount of work too. With root you can delete whatever app you want, so bloatware isn't much of an issue. To see what apps are safe to remove, most ROM developers post what they remove. You can also freeze the apps using things like Titanium Backup, so that you can easily restore them if you decide you want something back.
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Everyone has their own preferences, so you just need to look at what's available. The great thing about Android is that there are so many options, but that creates a fair amount of work too. With root you can delete whatever app you want, so bloatware isn't much of an issue. To see what apps are safe to remove, most ROM developers post what they remove. You can also freeze the apps using things like Titanium Backup, so that you can easily restore them if you decide you want something back.
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yea I know there are lots of roms, what are some of the most stable roms out - I can see that the cyanogenmod is only nightly builds nothing stable is that a problem, I havent seen CM in this forums on the first few pages so is it not one of the better ones anymore?
what are a few of the most stable roms that have most of the features that would be needed - nothing that has strange glitches like in the past there were problems with GPS working and a few other things
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yea I know there are lots of roms, what are some of the most stable roms out - I can see that the cyanogenmod is only nightly builds nothing stable is that a problem, I havent seen CM in this forums on the first few pages so is it not one of the better ones anymore?
what are a few of the most stable roms that have most of the features that would be needed - nothing that has strange glitches like in the past there were problems with GPS working and a few other things
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What you are asking for is HERE in these forums. PLEASE do your own searching and research for these answers This particular question "..Best ROM" is one of the biggest no no's across all XDA.
Search, READ, experiment and you will find what suites you.
Good luck.
I am going to skirt the "best rom" issue and just drop a list of what has been good for me... If you try all of these you'll certainly find one that works for you. I have intentionally mixed up the order here to avoid hurting anyone's feelings.. LOL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521870
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2588745
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2512983
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2312063
Take a weekend and try them all. Make backups of each as you go through them and your all set!
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What you are asking for is HERE in these forums. PLEASE do your own searching and research for these answers This particular question "..Best ROM" is one of the biggest no no's across all XDA.
Search, READ, experiment and you will find what suites you.
Good luck.
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you are absolutely right I dont know why I even asked that "best rom" it was stupid I admit it I feel stupid about that one I dont want to say I mistyped but I wasnt thinking I totally understand the reason why its a bad question to ask and why there isnt a real answer so I am sorry and I do know its one of those things you dont ask I have read that in the past but I forgot or something
what I ment to say was mainly what roms are the most complete in the sense that they have all the things working that should be like gps/wifi/4g/lte things like that, in the past a few roms were missing things like that
are there any that certain apps wont work for? I use and rely on "no led" app I just love the way it shows the colored icons on screen
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what I ment to say was mainly what roms are the most complete in the sense that they have all the things working
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The big split in ROMs is between touchwiz and AOSP. Touchwiz is Samsung's layer on top of the core Android Google produces. Some features like multi-window, the standard Samsung keyboard, air gesture, etc. rely on touchwiz to work. I'm sure you can find a complete list of what relies on touchwiz to see if any of it is important to you. I think most ROMs will have all radios working, but like others have said, just make sure to have backups of your current setup to go back to and experiment, and since you already have the MK2 modem, make sure whatever ROM you choose is compatible with MK2. It doesn't take all that long to flash different ROMs and see what you think.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but custom ROMs just take existing modules and combine them to save you work. But, you can start with the stock rooted ROM and build your own experience from there too. Check out the hotspot mod, custom kernels, Xposed modules, various themes, and build something that works for you.
nobody291 said:
The big split in ROMs is between touchwiz and AOSP. Touchwiz is Samsung's layer on top of the core Android Google produces. Some features like multi-window, the standard Samsung keyboard, air gesture, etc. rely on touchwiz to work. I'm sure you can find a complete list of what relies on touchwiz to see if any of it is important to you. I think most ROMs will have all radios working, but like others have said, just make sure to have backups of your current setup to go back to and experiment, and since you already have the MK2 modem, make sure whatever ROM you choose is compatible with MK2. It doesn't take all that long to flash different ROMs and see what you think.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but custom ROMs just take existing modules and combine them to save you work. But, you can start with the stock rooted ROM and build your own experience from there too. Check out the hotspot mod, custom kernels, Xposed modules, various themes, and build something that works for you.
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so yea I dont really like the touchwiz interface I liked using the stock android theme my last phone had using CM9 so touchwiz isnt really needed
I do need to be able to use widgets though like the ones for apps that show me the prices of gold/silver my bitcoins/litecoins and the mining speed from my miners using the api I have - dont some of the widgets need touchwiz to work, not the touchwiz widgets but the ones that apps create
I have installed roms before so I know its not hard but once you get into this things can get out of control and after a while you find your self having to use odin and then things get scary cuz lets face it who really likes using odin unless something has changed from last year odin is just about the only thing that could really brick your phone if something goes wrong
thanks for your help I will give it a go and hope nothing bad happens
If you don't like touchwiz, but want the full functionality of you phone features. Why not use a different launcher? There are a lot to choose from.
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dont some of the widgets need touchwiz to work
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In my experience, there are Samsung widgets that not only require touchwiz, but also require Samsung's launcher. I use several widgets designed for multiple Android devices, and I don't think they care about touchwiz.
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If you don't like touchwiz, but want the full functionality of you phone features. Why not use a different launcher? There are a lot to choose from.
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you mean just install a different launcher?
I dont want any of the sprint crap on the phone either no need for sprint news and all that crap
wouldnt just installing a different launcher just be a skin you cant remove touchwiz from what I remember so I need a rom that doesent have touchwiz in it
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you mean just install a different launcher?
I dont want any of the sprint crap on the phone either no need for sprint news and all that crap
wouldnt just installing a different launcher just be a skin you cant remove touchwiz from what I remember so I need a rom that doesent have touchwiz in it
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Yes, you had stressed earlier that you wanted all things working. If you want any of the S features to work on your phone than you need to keep touchwiz as your base rom. Installing a different launcher can give you that. If you like the look of AOSP, there is a new google now launcher that can provide more of an AOSP look. You can remove a lot of the bloat and sprint stuff fairly easily with TiBu or a root file explorer. Just be cautious, removing some of the Sprint stuff will screw up your phone and cause the ability to update PRL or Profile to fail.
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Yes, you had stressed earlier that you wanted all things working. If you want any of the S features to work on your phone than you need to keep touchwiz as your base rom. Installing a different launcher can give you that. If you like the look of AOSP, there is a new google now launcher that can provide more of an AOSP look. You can remove a lot of the bloat and sprint stuff fairly easily with TiBu or a root file explorer. Just be cautious, removing some of the Sprint stuff will screw up your phone and cause the ability to update PRL or Profile to fail.
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yea wanted all things working but I guess after looking at it I dont use much of the "S" features if at all so I will just have to try some out and see whats up
one thing I was wondering about is the "gapps" in the past I had to make sure it was the exact right one for the exact rom I was using but now I dont see much about saying a specific version of gapps for the roms rather just to install gapps and get the latest one - so the gapps that would be for the sprint phone should work for the roms?
I do however like the feature where you wave your hand over the screen when its off and it lights up to show you the time and info, it would suck if that went away but I can deal with it
I would like to know if there are any problems with using the samsung tec tiles, those NFC sticker tags with other roms that wouldnt have any touchwiz stuff
I assume that they are just NFC so they should work but I want to be sure
I havent installed a rom yet been busy - but I did get root
I noticed I have an OTA update waiting, I assume its 4.4 so if I update will I have problems rooting or remove root and make installing roms hard?