I am totally new to this and I got my Wildfire couple of weeks ago. English is not my native language so excuse me if I write something wrong but I hope that you will understand my request. I dont really understand this rooting and flashin custom roms and everything, so I have few questions :
1.) What is rooting ? I read that it means accessing root directory but I dont fully understand that.
2.) Custom roms, what do I really get with them ?
3.) Kernel, what is that ?
4.) Can OC and flashing custom rom's be harmfull for my phone ? Can something blow up ?
5.) Is it possible to change language of my phone to croatian with those custom roms ? I tried with morelocale and apps simillar to that, but it translates only half of the interface.
I would be very gratefull if someone could explain these terms to me into the smallest details so I could understand everything. Thank you.
anyone ? pleasee
Well not a techie myself but there is a thread generally explains this in the Android forum of you look for it.
Rooting means opening access to the system file on the phone that is normally not accessible this let's you change files and system attribute like themes etc. And mods that let's you install from sdcard.
Kernal is the instructions to the CPU how it should work.
Oveclocking are predefined or scaled instructions to make the CPU run at higher speed than the default in stock roms, available on custom roms only, will make the system smoother less waiting loading times. It will generate more heat than normal but hardly will blow anything up.
Custom roms are tweaked versions of sense or original android, they include functions like app2sd, most useful as it puts files to SD card and work with the phone releasing resource so you can install many more apps. Of course downside is SD card is operating more decreasing its life but depends on the card reliability and good branded ones these days they last for years.
As for you language you should read the Rom threads.
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1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rooting_(Android_OS)
2: Read the ROM thread. More often than not, the features are listed there. There is no specific answer as to what you get by installing Custom ROM's. It differs from ROM to ROM. Some offer performance, some offer stability and so on.
3: The interface which controls the hardware, basically. It is a modified form of Linux kernel, and, to know what a kernel does, you can look it up on Wikipedia.
4: No, it cant blow up. That being said, it is not recommended to keep the phone OC'ed 24x7 at very high values. A moderate OC doesnt have any negative effects, with maybe a reduction in the lifespan of the hardware, but, IMO, that will be seen over a very long period of time.
5: No idea, sorry. Never required any other language apart from English myself.
1.) Rooting is simply "HACKING" your phone so you can put whatever you'd like to on it (Custom ROMs and such).
2.) Better battery life, more customization and such.
3.) Too deep, but in simple words kernel is the base of the OS running in your phone (apperently Android is UNIX based).
4.) Small risks only, if you're doing something wrong. I didn't get any problem myself though.
5.) Yes. Not fully as said, but yes.
hmmm I think that I understand everything now. Thank you all for the given informations.
and I have one more question : does anyone know for how long will I have to wait until I can root my 2.2 Froyo ?
karacic said:
and I have one more question : does anyone know for how long will I have to wait until I can root my 2.2 Froyo ?
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Till unrEVOked gets the HBOOT cracked again (no specific date )
To change the cpu power and make the battery long lasting one i rooted my phone do i need to install a custom rom or theres an app i can just install on original sense to manage cpu and battery like from custom roms?
raniero1 said:
To change the cpu power and make the battery long lasting one i rooted my phone do i need to install a custom rom or theres an app i can just install on original sense to manage cpu and battery like from custom roms?
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You just need SetCPU. Since you are not looking to overclock, you don't require another kernel or a Custom ROM.
raniero1 said:
To change the cpu power and make the battery long lasting one i rooted my phone do i need to install a custom rom or theres an app i can just install on original sense to manage cpu and battery like from custom roms?
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If you're looking at underclocking be careful as not enough CPU power will cause lag and freezes.
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ZooMas said:
Till unrEVOked gets the HBOOT cracked again (no specific date )
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ok thanks, I thought that maybe someon knows that it will be done in month or some specific time.
karacic said:
ok thanks, I thought that maybe someon knows that it will be done in month or some specific time.
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Nope. No one has an ETA, and this holds true for (mostly) all dev related work / releases like this, Not just unrevoked.
I thought it was like that, but there is no harm in asking I hope that it will be soon because I want new rom because official is disaster.
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I've recently bought a new HTC Wildfire ( simlock free ).
And I've played games. But they are so slow... I've searched around the internet and i've found that i've to overclock my Phone. So i've searched how to do that, i've found rooting... That's where I have questions about:
1. If I want to overclock, wich ROM must I take?
2. I wanted to copy my apps to SD, so maybe a froyo rom?
3. If I follow the instructions that are with the ROM, and follow them good. Is there than any chance of bricking my phone?
Thanks in advance!
Marc
I'm still very new to android, I'll try to help!!
1. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=822132
I used this cyanogen rom and I wasn't too sure if it had a kernel that could be overclocked... until I got the SetCPU app and it allowed me to set the cpu to 768mhz
2. On that rom above, I can copy apps to the sd card through the settings>manage applications. A list of the apps shows up and there's an option for it to move to the sd.
3. Make sure you created a nandroid backup of the rom you have now before you go and flash a new one and you should be fine......
My battery on this rom goes pretty terrible so I have profiles in setcpu to have the rom at a max of 352mhz when the screen is off and I also have it on flight mode. I take flight mode off only when I'm going to make calls and texts. The other day at work, my battery was fully charged at 6am and it had only gone down to 94% by 5pm. Sent a tonne of texts and a couple of calls too. Usually without flight mode it's around 40% by that time
But what is the differences between the roms, example the one you named and wildpuzzle? And the root methods, unrevoked and are there any others?
i dont think rooting and overclocking will do any good on games. the reason you cant play those games is that you have 240x320 res and an arm6 cpu.
I wrote a new thread few days ago but no one answered,so I searched here and i found this,I want to ask you wich risk there are in rooting of wildfire. Hoping you'll answer me,bye!
wildfire-user said:
I wrote a new thread few days ago but no one answered,so I searched here and i found this,I want to ask you wich risk there are in rooting of wildfire. Hoping you'll answer me,bye!
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Guys, i also recently got my wildfire.. but am pretty much sure, u r not going to brick the phone 99.99%..
You need first root your phone using Unrevoked 3 and then you can install any ROM (personally i will suggest Cynagenmod ,as it is very easy and simple and it will fulfil all your requirements OC,APP2SD)
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Guys, i also recently got my wildfire.. but am pretty much sure, u r not going to brick the phone 99.99%..
You need first root your phone using Unrevoked 3 and then you can install any ROM (personally i will suggest Cynagenmod ,as it is very easy and simple and it will fulfil all your requirements OC,APP2SD)
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Thanks for repling,but my problem is for the ota update of december,as you know it don't change nothing particularly,and so it make me think that they modified only the security of the sistem against the unrevoked,am I wrong?Do you know if it can cause problems to the root?
If you just want to overclock your wildfire, then you won't need to flash a custom rom. Flashing Jacob's overclock kernel to stock rom does the same thing.
Yes, overclocking does make game play better. But just to a certain extent, you will definitely see a difference and that's that.
I am pretty sure the wildpuzzle rom supports appstosd.
i mean ive paid 600 dollars for this phone because i always wanted the latest updates from google. and now its kind of getting boring lol. i was just wondering is it worth rooting? what are the advantages. and is there "odin" to this phone like there was for vibrant. meaning is this unbrickable also? and what is the best rom out there for nexus s.
and also what if i have custom rom and can i go back to stock and still get google updates ota?
Root gives you access to custom kernels that can overclock and give you voodoo sound (awesome) but you must be aware it is not prefect yet...but I enjoy the niggles and when fixes are made by our clever devs the roms are cool...all a bit different and you will always get latest android anyway through these. It is up to you if you want a nexus that evolves and improves beyond what Google imagined....but you gotta put up with a few reboots, force closes and reflashings along the way. I personally am a bit obsessed....now where is that next super kernel!
Plus I should add that as I understand you would have to try hard to brick it. Always do a nandroid backup and your covered....back up your present stock rom and its always there to return to.
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Plus I should add that as I understand you would have to try hard to brick it. Always do a nandroid backup and your covered....back up your present stock rom and its always there to return to.
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cool thanks.. whats the rom you are using? and i am not a fan of oc kernals. i think they eat battery. its bad enough on android as it is lol. hows the battery life on custom roms?
2012iawait said:
cool thanks.. whats the rom you are using? and i am not a fan of oc kernals. i think they eat battery. its bad enough on android as it is lol. hows the battery life on custom roms?
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I ran MoDaCo for a bit with Netarchy's kernel and I must say, the battery life was better than no OC. If you don't want to run the overclock, you can install SetCPU and clock it down to 1GHz while adding the VooDoo sound drivers and the better battery life.
If I may throw my two cents in, I rooted my Nexus S but didn't really see a need personally to try roms or over-clocked kernels. Coming from the Captivate, I find this phone to be way superior in terms of speed and performance. So I don't see a need for myself to flash any roms or kernels at this time. That being said, there are advantages to rooting, if only to change or add apps that require root.. Case in point, I installed (after having to push it through adb) Keyboard Manager, which enables you to use different keyboards depending on the orientation of your phone. Only by having root access can you install apps like that. So i definitely see a purpose for rooting other than flashing roms/kernels. Luckily, it's relatively easy to return to stock if needed.
It's absolutely worth it to root. I can't stress it enough. Right now its slow, and may not seem worth it till cyan gets all the extras into his ROM, and more kernels and ROM's pop up. But once that happens, it is a must have to root.
I'm running Cm7 Build 24 with a Trinity 1.0 ghz Kernal. Great work! props to the devs.
Installing custom roms and being able to customize my phone is what I love about android. I used to be a Iphone user, owned every single model.
cm7 is a wonderful rom.
Yes.
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Root gives you access to custom kernels that can overclock and give you voodoo sound (awesome) but you must be aware it is not prefect yet...but I enjoy the niggles and when fixes are made by our clever devs the roms are cool...all a bit different and you will always get latest android anyway through these. It is up to you if you want a nexus that evolves and improves beyond what Google imagined....but you gotta put up with a few reboots, force closes and reflashings along the way. I personally am a bit obsessed....now where is that next super kernel!
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i am not familiar with voodoo sound. what is that? i actually never witnessed a random reboot on my nexus s. may be because its stock
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If I may throw my two cents in, I rooted my Nexus S but didn't really see a need personally to try roms or over-clocked kernels. Coming from the Captivate, I find this phone to be way superior in terms of speed and performance. So I don't see a need for myself to flash any roms or kernels at this time. That being said, there are advantages to rooting, if only to change or add apps that require root.. Case in point, I installed (after having to push it through adb) Keyboard Manager, which enables you to use different keyboards depending on the orientation of your phone. Only by having root access can you install apps like that. So i definitely see a purpose for rooting other than flashing roms/kernels. Luckily, it's relatively easy to return to stock if needed.
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I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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ruben8448 said:
I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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its in the themes and apps section of Android Hacking here on XDA. Give a quick search and you'll find it.
2012iawait said:
i am not familiar with voodoo sound. what is that? i actually never witnessed a random reboot on my nexus s. may be because its stock
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voodoo sound is a repository that makes the sound 1000 times better
ruben8448 said:
I'm going a bit off topic but what's keyboard manager. I am really interested in switching keyboards depending on orientation. Where can I get this and how can I install it?
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As someone stated, it's in the App forum, just search Keyboard Manager. Fair warning, I had issues installing it so had to push it through adb, as I stated in my post. It worked wonderfully and was able to switch between keyboards no problem, great if you have several keyboards installed.
i m on 2.3.2 can i still root? i downloaded the android 2.3 sdk and trying to follow the guide but there is no usb drivers in that sdk. where do i get it from?
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As someone stated, it's in the App forum, just search Keyboard Manager. Fair warning, I had issues installing it so had to push it through adb, as I stated in my post. It worked wonderfully and was able to switch between keyboards no problem, great if you have several keyboards installed.
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Awesome thanks guys. Ill look for it and try it out. Much appreciated
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guys i have rooted and unlocked my nexus s but after a reboot i loose the clockwork image is that normal? and can i flash a rom now/
that honestly shouldn't even be a question android = open source, open source = custom kernels,custom roms,custom everything basically....android = made to be rooted...
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guys i have rooted and unlocked my nexus s but after a reboot i loose the clockwork image is that normal? and can i flash a rom now/
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Yes this is normal its a safety precaution install rom manager and everytime you want to go to recovery without having to reflash in bootloader just go into rom manager and hit go to recovery or hold power button reboot then recovery and you will get to clockword
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i m on 2.3.2 can i still root? i downloaded the android 2.3 sdk and trying to follow the guide but there is no usb drivers in that sdk. where do i get it from?
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Follow my guide, the full one is available here (my blog) http://completeandroid.wordpress.com/2011/01/31/complete-guide-to-rooting-the-nexus-s/
or the XDA thread version (doesn't have pictures) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=935819
Basically you have to run the SDK manager and install the USB drivers separately, and also install the PDAnet software for extra drivers (I found it helps when using connecting to the NS in fastboot mode).
Custom kernels are evolving...massive overclock or an undervolted battery saver are available. If you got the time and inclination you can try every combo of rom/kernel going....and always have your stock rom only a recovery away.
ok so I have been reading and what not... I have searched far and wide but still don't quite understand. But anyways here's my question.
Pros and cons of going to the other hboot?
Is there any reason to change my radio version? Will it benefit me at all?
is this idea of the way the phone works kind correct?
The phone starts up, hboot will load up the os files (which is my royalginger rom I installed)
So changing the hboot ver is like changing your BIOS ver on a computer motherboard.
now, what kind of tech is actually in this phone... A proc, graphics proc, memory, some storage space. Can any of these parts be modified, upgraded, or even touched? Or is it all permanently on the phones main chip.
And the last question. I know its possible to overclock phones.. But what is the best way to do it? Like, on my computer I never oc using software, always do it through the bios. But what's the best way on the glacier?
Thanks for answering any of these ?s... It'll all help me better understand my phone and how it works and I would like to learn this stuff well so I can help people out on this forum someday soon
To overclock:
1. Flash overclock kernal.
2. Install setcpu from market.
3. Go crazy.
4. You didn't search far and wide enough.
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Pros and cons of going to the other hboot?
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the .85 hboot will allow you to flash any part of a ROM, wipe any partition on the phone, and install recovery images from the Engineering scree. It helps you to not brick your phone. There have been a couple of people on this forum that would of bricked their device if they didn't have it.
Is there any reason to change my radio version? Will it benefit me at all?
is this idea of the way the phone works kind correct?
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The phone starts up, hboot will load up the os files (which is my royalginger rom I installed)
So changing the hboot ver is like changing your BIOS ver on a computer motherboard.
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IIRC the HBoot would be similar to a BIOS. It physically loads the OS. However i've never changed a BIOS on a Windows Computer so i cannot tell you.
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now, what kind of tech is actually in this phone... A proc, graphics proc, memory, some storage space. Can any of these parts be modified, upgraded, or even touched? Or is it all permanently on the phones main chip.
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It's all soldered into the main board and cannot be tampered with unless you feel like soldering, writing a kernel and a new OS.
Gopher love said:
And the last question. I know its possible to overclock phones.. But what is the best way to do it? Like, on my computer I never oc using software, always do it through the bios. But what's the best way on the glacier?
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The best way to over clock a ROM is to download and install a kernel. You will need a program similar to SetCPU to manage the speed. If you should download Cyanogen(mod)'s CM7.x it will have a overclocking kernel natively.
Gopher love said:
Thanks for answering any of these ?s... It'll all help me better understand my phone and how it works and I would like to learn this stuff well so I can help people out on this forum someday soon
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No problem, feel free to ask question and use the search alot of stuff as already been hit on.
well as far as the radio goes, some people (such as myself) have reported a better signal by flashing the newer radio, i noticed between 1-2 bar increase within the same spot in my room
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well as far as the radio goes, some people (such as myself) have reported a better signal by flashing the newer radio, i noticed between 1-2 bar increase within the same spot in my room
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With the caveat that, not always but often, better a radio with better signal will come at the expense of battery life.
screw up your bios and you pull the cmos battery, unplug the power supply and you're fine. screw up the radio or hboot and you have nothing to fall back on. A phone is a lot like a pc, without all of the fallback and replaceable parts.
I've been using the engineering radio for a few weeks now, no complaints, was worth the simple flash.
1. ok so to overclock I flash an overclock kernel. Can I flash in a new kernel without changing to a different rom (as in can I keep my royalginger thing I flashed in)
2. By installing the engineering hboot I can change any part of the rom. Does this mean I can do the above? Change my kernel without changing the whole rom?
3. A newer radio has the potential to increase my signal?
4. I've been searching for a while and still can't figure out the difference between an asop, sense, etc types of roms?
You guys are an amazing help... Thank you so much
Gopher love said:
1. ok so to overclock I flash an overclock kernel. Can I flash in a new kernel without changing to a different rom (as in can I keep my royalginger thing I flashed in)
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YES. You need to make sure that you use a AOSP ROM kernel or a Sense Kernel. I'm not 100% sure about Royal Ginger. I believe it's AOSP but you'll want to double check
Gopher love said:
2. By installing the engineering hboot I can change any part of the rom. Does this mean I can do the above? Change my kernel without changing the whole rom?
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Yes. But you can flash kernels w/o needing the E-hBoot. You can flash them from the recovery. and not they will not mess with anything.
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3. A newer radio has the potential to increase my signal?
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Yes some people are reporting that.
Gopher love said:
4. I've been searching for a while and still can't figure out the difference between an asop, sense, etc types of roms?
You guys are an amazing help... Thank you so much
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AOSP = Android Open Source Project. Look at the G2 for an idea. Cyanogen has AOSP style UI, but they throw some extra options in.
Sense = HTC Skin. It's what the Droid Inc, Desire, come with
MotoBlur = Motorola's Skin all of the Moto Droid line & the Cliq come with
Espresso / MySense = T-Mobile's custom Skin for the MyTouch 4G
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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Kernels are based on the style of skin that you are using. We uses either Sense or AOSP. You need to know what type of ROM you are using, and flash the correct kernel. Meaning you cannot use a AOSP kernel on a Sense ROM. So make sure you know what RoyalGinger is prior to digging though Kernels.
Is there a way to confirm or verify if I have engineering boot installed?
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power off, hold power and volume down together. 0.86 is default, 0.85 is engineering.
darinmc said:
power off, hold power and volume down together. 0.86 is default, 0.85 is engineering.
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Could you explain how the eng hboot can help me not brick my phone?
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Could you explain how the eng hboot can help me not brick my phone?
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Because it will allow you flash, wipe, or load specific sections of your ROM or allow you to reflash recovery images if one should fail. most people will never encounter this but it's a good failsafe to have on your phone.
neidlinger said:
Because it will allow you flash, wipe, or load specific sections of your ROM or allow you to reflash recovery images if one should fail. most people will never encounter this but it's a good failsafe to have on your phone.
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So if i ever have an issue like some people are having where recovery says something like "cannot mount cache" causing the flashing to not work, I can fix that through the eng hboot?
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thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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faux's kernels clearing state which rom they will work for, so pick a rom, then pick a kernel if you want, overclocking isnt really necessary on our phones since its plenty fast already
btw royalginger is based on cm7 which is based on aosp
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So if i ever have an issue like some people are having where recovery says something like "cannot mount cache" causing the flashing to not work, I can fix that through the eng hboot?
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i assume it would depend on the exact reason why it stop reading the cache partition. I do know i've see a few threads where people flashed a different recovery image and was able to re flash a ROM and getting it work. But then again it'd all depend on why it failed.
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faux's kernels clearing state which rom they will work for, so pick a rom, then pick a kernel if you want, overclocking isnt really necessary on our phones since its plenty fast already
btw royalginger is based on cm7 which is based on aosp
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Yea.. The phone is plenty fast.. But that's just me.. i like to see how much father I can push it.
Is there a newer version of eng hboot above 0.85
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While we're on the subject of radios, where can I download the latest version for mt4g
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first sorry for being a noob on this things..
i got a wildfire A3333 with android 2.2.1 running on it..
my question is..i want to root my phone..its possible? what should i do first? do i need to check anything b4 starting to root it?
and again..sorry being a noob :'( please help me!
You have to get S-OFF using Revolutionary. Don't touch Unrevoked, because its not needed and will not work. You can refer the outline of the process here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
after i doing this S-off stuff, its means my phone is rooted and i can run livewallpaper?
No. You will have to install a ROM which supports it. (Which can only be done after getting S-OFF, so its unavoidable)
Just a word of caution - Live Wallpapers immensely slow down the Wildfire, except a few ones.
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No. You will have to install a ROM which supports it. (Which can only be done after getting S-OFF, so its unavoidable)
Just a word of caution - Live Wallpapers immensely slow down the Wildfire, except a few ones.
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except a few ones? didnt get what ur means buddy..
There are just a few I personally have tested which doesn't seem to slow down the phone as much as others.
- Starfield 2D
- Solar Wind
- Pixel Rain
- Nexus Like Live Wallpaper
There are probably more out there, but, with the above 4, slowdown is minimal, atleast for me.
ok last question here..
what is the different between rooted and unrooted wildfire..also the advantage of doing this root things :S
Advantages are potentially plenty. You can:
- Install Custom ROMs, including ones with Android 2.3.5
- Remove System Apps from ROMs you dont need
- Live Wallpaper Support
- Proper Apps2SD Support
- Many Root only apps like Titanium Backup (App Backup), SetCPU (Overclock CPU) etc.
In a nutshell, thats about it. There are quite a few more, but I'll keep my post short.
Obviously, none of the above things can be done without rooting your device.
ok many2 thx to u @3xeno..
do u think this stuff easy to do for a novice like me? i really wanna do it..but afraid will broke my wildfire >.<
I would say yes. Everyone is a novice when they start off, so, don't worry about it.
Besides, I would say the process is pretty safe (and easy - Its literally 1 click. I remember the process when Symbian S60 V3 had to be hacked. It needed a digitally signed certificate from an authority!) as well. Haven't seen any brick reports yet. Further, everything is reversible, so you shouldn't have issues claiming warranty in the future if the need arises.
Cyanogen Mod 7 <<-- what is this? i have read it somewhere.. :S
Cyanogenmod 7 is an 2.3.5. AOSP (android open source project) Rom, very fast and stable but it has no sense UI
Edit:It has some problems with GPS and Bluetooth file transfer but i think that can be resolved by flashing a new radio image
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Cyanogenmod 7 is an 2.3.5. AOSP (android open source project) Rom, very fast and stable but it has no sense UI
Edit:It has some problems with GPS and Bluetooth file transfer but i think that can be resolved by flashing a new radio image
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so u means if i put this on my wildfire it will bring some problems? and do u know how to fix the problems?
Well I don't know, because when I flashed it i didn't notice any problems except for the Bluetooth. But It's not the same for every phone.
Anyways no major problems, and I recommend that you do a nandroid backup before you flash any Rom just in case something goes wrong.
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Hi guys,
So .. I hate lag, that's why I wanna do something about my LG Spirit, cos it lags annoyingly much. Here's what I got - Lollipop 5.0.1, software version V10h-EUR-XX, Build LRX21Y, Kernel 3.10.49
So I heard of this SetCPU app and wanna give it a try. But to give it a try I need the phone to be rooted. Tried many ways to root it but couldn't. So far so BAD! Then heard something about flashing a custom ROM to the phone. Do I have to have the phone rooted in order to flash a custom ROM to it? Or the other way around? Do I have to have a custom ROM in order to be able to root the device? And which custom ROM to go for for my Spirit?
Ultimately, I wanna get rid of this lag and to do that I'm giving these 2 things a try - (1) root the phone somehow and install SetCPU to overclock the CPU to make the darn thing run faster and (2) flash a custom ROM cos I heard custom ROM can run much faster and lighter than the stock OOTB OS.
One thing I already did was to install the latest Nova Launcher Prime. That alone has made the phone more responsive. With the stock HOME it seemed to work slower. Or is it just me?
Anyway, help me out by answering some of my uncertainties and pls do give me a tip on how to proceed.
Cheers!
Currently there are no custom roms for lg spirit on xda. You cant overclock the kernel, because you would need an OC kernel for that. My suggestion is to follow the guidelines in Tomo123's performance and battery enhancing thread. You can root the device via Kingroot, search for it on xda.
Thank you very much for the input! Muchly appreciated!
I don't wanna use this Chinese mysterious stuff ... kingroot. I'd rather root with something else.
Could I tell me if I need to be rooted in order to flash a custom ROM to my phone or is it the other way - having to have a custom ROM in order to be able to root it? Which way around is it?
I'm not sure what you mean by 'You cant overclock the kernel, because you would need an OC kernel for that.' What is an OC kernel? Are you saying that I cannot overclock my CPU because I need a custom ROM???
Any links to Tomo123's performance and battery enhancing thread?
You cannot root with anything else. There's no problem with it by the way so feel free to use it.
You have to root your phone first in order to install custom roms, but currently there are no custom roms for this device, nor unlocked bootloader and custom recovery (which is needed to install a custom rom).
An oc kernel is an OverClocked kernel which again we don't have yet.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/and...pu-tweaks-performance-battery-saving-t3217133
Here's the link ( you need root for this)
Thank you again. I just re-read your prev post and it now makes more sense to me. So apparently there's nothing in it for me to root, since we dont yet have and OverClocked kernel and any custom ROMs, meaning I can't squeeze out any benefit. Even if I managed to root the phone and installed SetCPU it won't help anything cos it won't let me overclock the CPU, due to the lack of an OC kernel as you said yourself.
So yeah ,.. thanks! Will give that link a look! Any idea when/how we'll ever get any custom ROMs and kernels for the LG spirit 2015? After all it's a cheap spin-off of the LG G4.
Is it just me or the Home Launcher also makes a difference? With the stock one things were kinda slow. With Nova Prime they seem kinda faster? Could it be or is it just me?
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I only wanted to root my phone so as to be able to overclock the CPU and make it run faster. I've read many reviews saying reasons why it is great to root your phone. However, since I can't overclock the CPU is there any other reason (in terms of making the phone faster and less laggy) why I would want to root it?
The home launcher does make a difference. The thread I shared with you contains a set of kernel settings which make the phone more responsive, have better multitasking, and conserve more battery. The developers at LG made weird settings to the kernel that's why we need to change them. But in order to do so, you need to root.
Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask you. Now I get the picture. I may have misunderstood you earlier, cos i though u said in order to overclock i need and overclock-able kernel, which does not exist. And it seems that at the thread you linked to the guys are doing exactly that - overclocking and tweaking settings to the cpu and kernel. I guess they're doing all that on the stock kernel and ROM. So the bottom line. is you don't necessarily need a custom ROM and kernel in order to tweak stuff in the SetCPU app such as the clockspeed of the CPU and other kernel settings.
I guess this is the KingRoot thread I should use to root my Spirit?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
Well, in any event .. I gotta say a big thank you for even pointing me to that thread cos that was exactly what I was looking for. But pls shed some more light on my last post.
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Yeah, that's what I was gonna ask you. Now I get the picture. I may have misunderstood you earlier, cos i though u said in order to overclock i need and overclock-able kernel, which does not exist. And it seems that at the thread you linked to the guys are doing exactly that - overclocking and tweaking settings to the cpu and kernel. I guess they're doing all that on the stock kernel and ROM. So the bottom line. is you don't necessarily need a custom ROM and kernel in order to tweak stuff in the SetCPU app such as the clockspeed of the CPU and other kernel settings.
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jonathansmith said:
I guess this is the KingRoot thread I should use to root my Spirit?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
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Yeah that's it
well, thank you so much for the input then !!!
jonathansmith said:
Hi guys,
So .. I hate lag, that's why I wanna do something about my LG Spirit, cos it lags annoyingly much. Here's what I got - Lollipop 5.0.1, software version V10h-EUR-XX, Build LRX21Y, Kernel 3.10.49
So I heard of this SetCPU app and wanna give it a try. But to give it a try I need the phone to be rooted. Tried many ways to root it but couldn't. So far so BAD! Then heard something about flashing a custom ROM to the phone. Do I have to have the phone rooted in order to flash a custom ROM to it? Or the other way around? Do I have to have a custom ROM in order to be able to root the device? And which custom ROM to go for for my Spirit?
Ultimately, I wanna get rid of this lag and to do that I'm giving these 2 things a try - (1) root the phone somehow and install SetCPU to overclock the CPU to make the darn thing run faster and (2) flash a custom ROM cos I heard custom ROM can run much faster and lighter than the stock OOTB OS.
One thing I already did was to install the latest Nova Launcher Prime. That alone has made the phone more responsive. With the stock HOME it seemed to work slower. Or is it just me?
Anyway, help me out by answering some of my uncertainties and pls do give me a tip on how to proceed.
Cheers!
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Hi and thank you for using XDA Assist
Try looking here
There are various threads and i'm sure there is something to take in consideration.
Good luck!
Thank you for the input! I appreciate it!
Ammm ... wait, what happened to the comments the other user made? They just got deleted or what? I cannot see them any more and I am logged in ... and I can see nilac's comments... so what gives?
I guess it would be nice, if possible, to move this whole thread to http://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-spirit ... that's where I wanted to post the thread anyway, but just couldn't find it. But still, if anyone can tell me what on earth happened with the comments the other user made to my posts ... it would be nice. His username is thomekk91 and I pdf'ed the thread luckily so I still have his comments, but I see no reasons why they got removed? Anyone?
jonathansmith said:
I guess it would be nice, if possible, to move this whole thread to http://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-spirit ... that's where I wanted to post the thread anyway, but just couldn't find it. But still, if anyone can tell me what on earth happened with the comments the other user made to my posts ... it would be nice. His username is thomekk91 and I pdf'ed the thread luckily so I still have his comments, but I see no reasons why they got removed? Anyone?
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Maybe you should read this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783031
You will find your answer there.
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OK, thank you for the info! May I ask you to move this whole thread to http://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-spirit where it actually belongs? And if you do so, could you restore the comments from that user, because they were helpful and might be helpful for others like me. Thank you in advance!
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OK, thank you for the info! May I ask you to move this whole thread to http://forum.xda-developers.com/t/lg-spirit where it actually belongs? And if you do so, could you restore the comments from that user, because they were helpful and might be helpful for others like me. Thank you in advance!
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Done. The thread will be moved soon.
Regards
trying to root now and so they have kingroot 4.6 now and it says here http://forum.xda-developers.com/andr...x-5-0-t3107461 that:
We have two versions, one is mobile version( app) for one-click root, another is desktop version for root some special device which can not be rooted by mobile one. Attention please that the desktop version may be flash third party Recovery into your device.
and then
KingRoot is an amazing tool for "lazy people" who just want to get root access but don't want to flash any third party Recovery into their lovely device.
So first they say one thing and then kinda something else. What is the risk/problem with flashing 3rd party Recovery into my phone? Why would I want/not want that? and lastly ... which method to use - mobile or desktop?
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Done. The thread will be moved soon.
Regards
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Can i Update software when i have root?