Just got my Desire Z today & as much as i love it I hate sense. I'm using ADD.Launcher atm to try & hide it but I still get there crappy apps.
So my question is, which is the best ROM to flash my phone to get to Vanilla Android?
Thanks in advance
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cyanogenmod rom... Its amazing... has probably the most support cause there are soo many users
Try Cyanogen. Check out the thread in the G2 dev forum, where there's loads of activity (the thread on the DZ side is pretty dead).
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
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KarlosTheJackal said:
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
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According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
steviewevie said:
According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
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'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
Edit:Spelling errors lol
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I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
Andre
KarlosTheJackal said:
'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
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If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
andrewilley said:
I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
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You'll lose all the HTC apps. So if you like any of them, maybe you won't like a stock Android ROM ?
Have a look at HTC's spec sheet on the DZ, which does list all their add-on apps and widgets too, that should give you an idea - http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html
But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
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But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
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This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
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This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
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I have to say that I'm a Sense fan. I can't fault it over stock Android (aside from the slight performance overhead, which is a non-issue if you overclock).
Vanilla Android - awful camera, contacts, dialler, ugly as hell, launcher looks nice but is plain annoying cos it doesn't fling more than a few lines, you don't get the Sense weather animations which I think are awesome eyecandy for showing off your phone to other people, Sense widgets are all generally pretty, the list goes on...
But ultimately that is MY preference, and the awesome thing about Android is you can customise it to fit your preferences. Try vanilla out - you have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain
steviewevie said:
If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Thank you so much for all of that! A lot of help & explained enough for me to start learning
You sir have my first ever 'Thanks' on here.
steviewevie said:
If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
This topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390&highlight=gfree talks about using 'gfree' & 'visionary' & seams like a very easy & straight forward way of gaining root access.
n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
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Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
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n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
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Yep, a lot of people seem to run Visionary and end up stuck in a boot loop or similar. I've never seen any problem like that with rage, the worst that seems to happen is it just doesn't work (but the phone is still fine), and that's usually because a command hasn't been typed in correctly or an error message came up and the user didn't realise it was important.
KarlosTheJackal said:
Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
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Excellent ! Well done
Related
With the surge of some ROMs for our devices, and though they're related between each other to a certain degree (save for CM7), the inevitable question surges: which one has the upper hand? The stock ROM is vastly improved since 1.06 and Ganjaman's add-ons make it more mature, the MoDaCo ROM has the advantage of having been the first modded ROM, CyanogenMod7, thanks to Apache14's work, has made a stellar appearance and we actually get the official updates (such as the ones that mad-murdock presented us yesterday), Corvus has been updating his new ROM quite rapidly and it works nicely, like Fuji-Vega does... We're lucky that we're not in want of possible choices! But which is yours?
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For me corvus. It's so quick and stable, and is the only one, where's my usb 3g huawei running. Did I told you, that it's really fast?
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I agree totally, corvus is so quick. I can't wait until it can be combined with mad murdoch's HC tweaks, the vega will be Ninja then!
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@logseman
great idea for a thread. I'm considering starting a thread on a similar line, thought id check in and avoid toe treading and see if there is a need for it.
As a newb to vega android modding, its great that there is such a wealth of info and advice, but sometimes its not clear or comprehensive (at least in one place! )
I'd like to run a "what vega setup is best for me" thread. The aim being to allow users to show exactly what setup they are running, how it performs, pro's and cons, bugs etc.
By using a standard template, we can see what works and why. We can make direct comparisons between setups without searching through threads for hours.
Users can then copy setups and try if they think they like it. Might also provide devs useful concise feedback to help them progress roms / kernels etc.
If it already exists, feel free to point me in the right direction whilst mocking my newbe stupidity, but ive read and re read the main threads and can't see it.
If you're reading this and think it would be useful, let me know, with suggestions and i'll get the ball rolling.
I.A.O.
Edit: if you want to help or collaborate, pm me.
I'm not sure how setting up a "standard configuration" would be of benefit. Primarily because of two issues: first, the same custom ROM can have dramatic performance differences between one device and the other (I am a ROM tester for Galaxy S, people claim battery lives of 4 days which I've never heard about); and second, the point of Android is that it actually doesn't force any standardisation as of now: I don't see why users would tend to a certain set up which has been done by another person instead of experimenting themselves.
Don't take me wrong, I appreciate that you take interest in this thread, but I fail to see the point of your suggestion. Android has no predefined "set-ups" as far as I know.
Yeah, i get your point. For me too its all about modding and tweaking. But i also got the impression that some people just want to get there device configured in a way that works for them quickly.
Im certainly Not saying lets all set up the same, if we wanted that we'd just bite the apple right!
I just think it would be useful to see at a glance what is working for people. I.e - "i need a rom with no lag on my vega - ah looks like cm7 ttrc2 has lag issues", without having to read 178 pages to find out.
I guess it would be more like an "at a glance" guide to roms for each device.
I used Modaco since i got my Mobii/Vega, but yesterday i flashed clockwork recovery and started using Titanium backup for real, so now i am testing some ROMs and sofar i like fuji-vega the most, fast and smooth, only some lag in appmenu when i have the device rooted.
I spent a long time using mcr8 eventually with buzz kernel but I then got bored and tried cm7 which I loved but just could not stand all the lag when scrolling etc.
I am now using corvus which seems to work well for me. I hope to switch back to cm7 when it improves a bit.
I love CM7 on my phone and would love it on the Vega, but the wifi troubles it has at this moment on the Vega made me switch to first Modaco and than Corvus. The only bad thing I can say about Corvus is that I personally would prefer Gingerbread green icons aboive the blue ones in Corvus
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I used Modaco since i got my Mobii/Vega, but yesterday i flashed clockwork recovery and started using Titanium backup for real, so now i am testing some ROMs and sofar i like fuji-vega the most, fast and smooth, only some lag in appmenu when i have the device rooted.
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I am in a similar position to you. I have only installed Modaco R8 and not really used Titanium Backup nor Clockwork Recovery. I find R8 lags after extended use (requiring a reboot) so I am interesting in changing to Corvus. I have a few questions.
What is the best way to move from Modaco to Corvus?
Can I use Clockwork Recovery/Titanium to ease the pain of transition?
How do I install CWR?
Is it best to go back to stock and then install Corvus? If so, will I lose all of my customisations?
Thanks in anticipation of a response.
What is the best way to move from Modaco to Corvus?
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I would do a Ti Backup of everything, then a nandroid backup before flashing.
Can I use Clockwork Recovery/Titanium to ease the pain of transition?
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Definitely use both of these, pay for Ti Backup to enable auto batch stuff
How do I install CWR?
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Try THIS thread
Is it best to go back to stock and then install Corvus? If so, will I lose all of my customisations?
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You would want to wipe when doing an install of a different rom anyway, so you will lose settings, most will be restored by Ti Backup though.
> I would do a Ti Backup of everything, then a nandroid backup before flashing.
Sorry, how do I do that? I have Modaco R8 with Titanium Backup installed. How do I use Ti to "backup everything", what is a "nandroid backup", and how do I restore stuff after installing a new ROM?
Cheers.
you can find this information quite easily by searching
ti backup press menu>batch>backup all user apps and system data
Then after installing cwm (download zip open
cd /path/to/folder
./install.sh for mac and linux (make sure to downlod my fixed scripts second post)
or
click install.bat for windows
then click recovery app use volume buttons and power to select backup and restore)
wipe data instal rom
ti backup from market
menu>batch>restore all user apps and system data (modaco is similar to corvus so should be safe to restore everything if things start crashing repeat install and untick all apps that are already installed in ti backup)
there you go you have transitioned
sorry if this sounds patronising it sounded like you were a noob so i included great detail
p.s. this will all become second nature after a while
hmmm atm i'm using CM7, and after switching to launcher pro it's so fast !!
adw launcher is such a crappy launcher (sry, my opinion)
anyways, my flash is pretty laggy due to the unstable nightly builds, I mean they're not in the fully power.. but I will wait, <3 cyanogem
I wish we had the HC update soon, rly =(
Ive been using Fuji-Vega since april and applying updates when they become available.
Really happy with it and cant complain. Does what i need it to do.
Very quick to use.
Corvus5 for me right now. it's stable and fast as, with oc I have been using cm7 until a few days ago and will no doubt give the latest a shot before the weekends gone, it now has oc kernel
I can't use custom ROMs because nor CM neither Corvus doesn't let my Huawei e150 connect to internet. When I'll solve this problem CM'll my choice.
CM7 for me. I've tried a few but CM7 just feels/looks slicker.
Will there ever be a fully working honeycomb rom?
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Hi,
I'm looking for best sense for g1. My requirements are backlight, android 2.1+, good battery life, fast, stable. Which rom had what I won't? Does maybe better on 1.5 android? I'm waiting for a reply
I second this, I would like Sense too, anyone?
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Youleck said:
Hi,
I'm looking for best sense for g1. My requirements are backlight, android 2.1+, good battery life, fast, stable. Which rom had what I won't? Does maybe better on 1.5 android? I'm waiting for a reply
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[just a thought]
may be consider buying a new phone
[/just a thought]
not sure how far along you are with your G1.. i assume its rooted haha but the best sense rom i've used to date would have to be zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HERO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670414
but with this rom you need to have the latest radio and hboot: 2.22.28.25, 1.33.0013d. this rom has most of the latest features and all those sense widgets we all love so much. If anyone knows of a better rom i would love to try it but as of now thats the best i know of. also if you need help flashing it DO ask questions before trying something you are unsure of.. because there's always that possibility of bricking your beloved G1. and we dont want that now do we..? haha feel free to ask me anything you need..
ldrifta said:
not sure how far along you are with your G1.. i assume its rooted haha but the best sense rom i've used to date would have to be zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HERO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670414
but with this rom you need to have the latest radio and hboot: 2.22.28.25, 1.33.0013d. this rom has most of the latest features and all those sense widgets we all love so much. If anyone knows of a better rom i would love to try it but as of now thats the best i know of. also if you need help flashing it DO ask questions before trying something you are unsure of.. because there's always that possibility of bricking your beloved G1. and we dont want that now do we..? haha feel free to ask me anything you need..
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Now I have froyobylaszlo with radio 2.22.27.08 and hboot 1.33.0013d. I changed ROMs many times on my G1 and I know what I must do.
So. zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HER? But with android 1.5 ar 2.1 ?
ldrifta said:
not sure how far along you are with your G1.. i assume its rooted haha but the best sense rom i've used to date would have to be zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HERO: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=670414
but with this rom you need to have the latest radio and hboot: 2.22.28.25, 1.33.0013d. this rom has most of the latest features and all those sense widgets we all love so much. If anyone knows of a better rom i would love to try it but as of now thats the best i know of. also if you need help flashing it DO ask questions before trying something you are unsure of.. because there's always that possibility of bricking your beloved G1. and we dont want that now do we..? haha feel free to ask me anything you need..
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any ideas about google services in zx 2.1 hero?
i had flashed this rom and i found that i cannot sync with google
andychan27 said:
any ideas about google services in zx 2.1 hero?
i had flashed this rom and i found that i cannot sync with google
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uhhhmmm im not sure why that would be but i did notice some of the roms dont come with gmail on it so you may have to download the actual gmail app... if not than try reflashing.. because i didnt have that issue.. not sure if it is a huge difference but i also had the 28.25 radio not the 27.08.. also i know it sounds dumb but you actually do have to wait like 10 minutes after the service provider pops up when you first flash.. i recomend following the steps on the rom link exact!! but i know my google services worked when i had it so maybe jus try a reflash if its still not working... sorry for your trouble.. im gonna re flash the rom now so i can see if i find anything...
Youleck said:
Now I have froyobylaszlo with radio 2.22.27.08 and hboot 1.33.0013d. I changed ROMs many times on my G1 and I know what I must do.
So. zachattack052 & xillius200's 2.1&1.5HER? But with android 1.5 ar 2.1 ?
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it should be 2.1 if im not mistaken... my friend just got the 4g evo and this rom can almost do everything that phone does... almost.. lol it's just the G1 is older and slower so you must be careful on how many widgets you use and jus keep an eye out for your basic memory drains.. i reccomend apps2sd
here's a link to another pretty cool sense rom http://www.youtube.com/user/ANDROIDZ13 this kid makes roms on his spare time and there not too bad looking.. not sure if they are OFFICIAL yet but i give him props for doing what he does.. only thing is not sure what radio and hboot are required for his roms... im trying to get a hold of em to find out, once i do ill spread the details with the rest of you, but for now take a look at his latest sense rom and some of his previous work and dont be shy to give thanks.. (the download links are in the descriptions of the videos's, click the more info button..)
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here's a link to another pretty cool sense rom http://www.youtube.com/user/ANDROIDZ13 this kid makes roms on his spare time and there not too bad looking.. not sure if they are OFFICIAL yet but i give him props for doing what he does.. only thing is not sure what radio and hboot are required for his roms... im trying to get a hold of em to find out, once i do ill spread the details with the rest of you, but for now take a look at his latest sense rom and some of his previous work and dont be shy to give thanks.. (the download links are in the descriptions of the videos's, click the more info button..)
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I saw this ROM, but it's on 1.5 Android. I found this on 2.1 android : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-pY234Q_KQ , but with out backlights (
Youleck said:
I saw this ROM, but it's on 1.5 Android. I found this on 2.1 android : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-pY234Q_KQ , but with out backlights (
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haha yeah i tried that one too and the animations for the clock widget are messed up lol in all honesty the G1 is gonna run hard with all the goodies your looking for so you might have to give up some of those features for it to run smooth... other than that i would use the zx2.1 possibly the best i used so far that has all the eye candy... but i recomend the one i posted earlier bcuz it will run a lil smoother without all the newer stuff like market and photo apk. jus my opinion..
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uhhhmmm im not sure why that would be but i did notice some of the roms dont come with gmail on it so you may have to download the actual gmail app... if not than try reflashing.. because i didnt have that issue.. not sure if it is a huge difference but i also had the 28.25 radio not the 27.08.. also i know it sounds dumb but you actually do have to wait like 10 minutes after the service provider pops up when you first flash.. i recomend following the steps on the rom link exact!! but i know my google services worked when i had it so maybe jus try a reflash if its still not working... sorry for your trouble.. im gonna re flash the rom now so i can see if i find anything...
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Never mind and thank you for your suggestions.. sync of contact might be not a big issue for daily use as i saved my contact in SIM card already.
Maybe i will flash it again in this weekend...=]
P.S. sry for my poor english
andychan27 said:
Never mind and thank you for your suggestions.. sync of contact might be not a big issue for daily use as i saved my contact in SIM card already.
Maybe i will flash it again in this weekend...=]
P.S. sry for my poor english
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haha no problem.. my only question tho is if you have the actual gmail app? you might have to get the normal gapps in the market like maps and gmail.. i dont remember if there's a gapps pack with the rom but thats wat it sounds like to me.. anyway your welcome and happy flashing!!
Hello, sorry to everyone that has been reading this and followed my previous link. the best hero sense rom out there for the G1 at this time is here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183 if you MUST have Sense...
Note: you must be on latest radio, & hboot 2.22.28.07/25.28-1.33.0013d
the instructions may seem intimidating but i will leave links for every item you need here.. than just follow the instuctions exactly as follows..
1. enter recovery and wipe cache,data,system
2. Flash FR_Recovery_v1.5.6
3. Wipe cache,data,system
4. reboot but back into recovery
5. Flash Rom
6. Flash FR_BOOT
7. Reboot phone and enjoy ^
MTDpartmap- http://www.4shared.com/document/PG3DNFeX/mtdpartmap.html
Hero4.5fixed- http://www.4shared.com/file/IpGMuPwm/herov45_fixed.html
FR-Recovery- http://www.4shared.com/file/oqhzftJO/FR-recovery-v156-CustomMTD_S.html
FR-Boot- http://www.4shared.com/file/Ys5_L_SW/FR-boot-v157-CustomMTD_S.html
Updates!!??
hey xillius has been updating that hero rom if anyone's interested.. check up on his page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183 he's doing some great work to this rom don't forget to thank him..
need help
hi , im a newbie with all the sense roms Ive only flashed sense roms without the mtds because, the whole setup seemed hard and i couldn't figure it out could some one make a video or something id appreciate it. i would like to install the sense ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183
got an error followed steps on top but didn't work didnt know what to do with the mtd text help
jumpman707 said:
hi , im a newbie with all the sense roms Ive only flashed sense roms without the mtds because, the whole setup seemed hard and i couldn't figure it out could some one make a video or something id appreciate it. i would like to install the sense ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183
got an error followed steps on top but didn't work didnt know what to do with the mtd text help
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I think this rom didnt require MTD at all
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=574526
That's a 1.5(cupcake) rom not froyo,eclair,ginger,etc. But it's one of the best for the ol G1
jumpman707 said:
hi , im a newbie with all the sense roms Ive only flashed sense roms without the mtds because, the whole setup seemed hard and i couldn't figure it out could some one make a video or something id appreciate it. i would like to install the sense ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807183
got an error followed steps on top but didn't work didnt know what to do with the mtd text help
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you already have 2.22.28.25 and 1.33.0013d? than its very simple ...
download these files
fr boot http://www.4shared.com/file/Ys5_L_SW/FR-boot-v157-CustomMTD_S.html
fr recovery http://www.4shared.com/file/oqhzftJO/FR-recovery-v156-CustomMTD_S.html
mtdtxt http://www.4shared.com/document/PG3DNFeX/mtdpartmap.html
superwipe http://www.4shared.com/file/svHOekxy/Ohsaka-SuperWipe_v2.html
put all these files on root of your sd card including the rom .zip file and follow the steps provided on the post
1. enter recovery and wipe cache,data,system
2. Flash FR_Recovery_v1.5.6
3. Wipe cache,data,system
4. reboot but back into recovery
5. Flash Rom
6. Flash FR_BOOT
17. Reboot phone and enjoy ^^
done
hope this helps
ok so I have been reading and what not... I have searched far and wide but still don't quite understand. But anyways here's my question.
Pros and cons of going to the other hboot?
Is there any reason to change my radio version? Will it benefit me at all?
is this idea of the way the phone works kind correct?
The phone starts up, hboot will load up the os files (which is my royalginger rom I installed)
So changing the hboot ver is like changing your BIOS ver on a computer motherboard.
now, what kind of tech is actually in this phone... A proc, graphics proc, memory, some storage space. Can any of these parts be modified, upgraded, or even touched? Or is it all permanently on the phones main chip.
And the last question. I know its possible to overclock phones.. But what is the best way to do it? Like, on my computer I never oc using software, always do it through the bios. But what's the best way on the glacier?
Thanks for answering any of these ?s... It'll all help me better understand my phone and how it works and I would like to learn this stuff well so I can help people out on this forum someday soon
To overclock:
1. Flash overclock kernal.
2. Install setcpu from market.
3. Go crazy.
4. You didn't search far and wide enough.
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Gopher love said:
Pros and cons of going to the other hboot?
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the .85 hboot will allow you to flash any part of a ROM, wipe any partition on the phone, and install recovery images from the Engineering scree. It helps you to not brick your phone. There have been a couple of people on this forum that would of bricked their device if they didn't have it.
Is there any reason to change my radio version? Will it benefit me at all?
is this idea of the way the phone works kind correct?
Gopher love said:
The phone starts up, hboot will load up the os files (which is my royalginger rom I installed)
So changing the hboot ver is like changing your BIOS ver on a computer motherboard.
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IIRC the HBoot would be similar to a BIOS. It physically loads the OS. However i've never changed a BIOS on a Windows Computer so i cannot tell you.
Gopher love said:
now, what kind of tech is actually in this phone... A proc, graphics proc, memory, some storage space. Can any of these parts be modified, upgraded, or even touched? Or is it all permanently on the phones main chip.
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It's all soldered into the main board and cannot be tampered with unless you feel like soldering, writing a kernel and a new OS.
Gopher love said:
And the last question. I know its possible to overclock phones.. But what is the best way to do it? Like, on my computer I never oc using software, always do it through the bios. But what's the best way on the glacier?
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The best way to over clock a ROM is to download and install a kernel. You will need a program similar to SetCPU to manage the speed. If you should download Cyanogen(mod)'s CM7.x it will have a overclocking kernel natively.
Gopher love said:
Thanks for answering any of these ?s... It'll all help me better understand my phone and how it works and I would like to learn this stuff well so I can help people out on this forum someday soon
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No problem, feel free to ask question and use the search alot of stuff as already been hit on.
well as far as the radio goes, some people (such as myself) have reported a better signal by flashing the newer radio, i noticed between 1-2 bar increase within the same spot in my room
smatthew45 said:
well as far as the radio goes, some people (such as myself) have reported a better signal by flashing the newer radio, i noticed between 1-2 bar increase within the same spot in my room
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With the caveat that, not always but often, better a radio with better signal will come at the expense of battery life.
screw up your bios and you pull the cmos battery, unplug the power supply and you're fine. screw up the radio or hboot and you have nothing to fall back on. A phone is a lot like a pc, without all of the fallback and replaceable parts.
I've been using the engineering radio for a few weeks now, no complaints, was worth the simple flash.
1. ok so to overclock I flash an overclock kernel. Can I flash in a new kernel without changing to a different rom (as in can I keep my royalginger thing I flashed in)
2. By installing the engineering hboot I can change any part of the rom. Does this mean I can do the above? Change my kernel without changing the whole rom?
3. A newer radio has the potential to increase my signal?
4. I've been searching for a while and still can't figure out the difference between an asop, sense, etc types of roms?
You guys are an amazing help... Thank you so much
Gopher love said:
1. ok so to overclock I flash an overclock kernel. Can I flash in a new kernel without changing to a different rom (as in can I keep my royalginger thing I flashed in)
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YES. You need to make sure that you use a AOSP ROM kernel or a Sense Kernel. I'm not 100% sure about Royal Ginger. I believe it's AOSP but you'll want to double check
Gopher love said:
2. By installing the engineering hboot I can change any part of the rom. Does this mean I can do the above? Change my kernel without changing the whole rom?
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Yes. But you can flash kernels w/o needing the E-hBoot. You can flash them from the recovery. and not they will not mess with anything.
Gopher love said:
3. A newer radio has the potential to increase my signal?
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Yes some people are reporting that.
Gopher love said:
4. I've been searching for a while and still can't figure out the difference between an asop, sense, etc types of roms?
You guys are an amazing help... Thank you so much
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AOSP = Android Open Source Project. Look at the G2 for an idea. Cyanogen has AOSP style UI, but they throw some extra options in.
Sense = HTC Skin. It's what the Droid Inc, Desire, come with
MotoBlur = Motorola's Skin all of the Moto Droid line & the Cliq come with
Espresso / MySense = T-Mobile's custom Skin for the MyTouch 4G
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
Gopher love said:
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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Kernels are based on the style of skin that you are using. We uses either Sense or AOSP. You need to know what type of ROM you are using, and flash the correct kernel. Meaning you cannot use a AOSP kernel on a Sense ROM. So make sure you know what RoyalGinger is prior to digging though Kernels.
Is there a way to confirm or verify if I have engineering boot installed?
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power off, hold power and volume down together. 0.86 is default, 0.85 is engineering.
darinmc said:
power off, hold power and volume down together. 0.86 is default, 0.85 is engineering.
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Could you explain how the eng hboot can help me not brick my phone?
kimbernator said:
Could you explain how the eng hboot can help me not brick my phone?
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Because it will allow you flash, wipe, or load specific sections of your ROM or allow you to reflash recovery images if one should fail. most people will never encounter this but it's a good failsafe to have on your phone.
neidlinger said:
Because it will allow you flash, wipe, or load specific sections of your ROM or allow you to reflash recovery images if one should fail. most people will never encounter this but it's a good failsafe to have on your phone.
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So if i ever have an issue like some people are having where recovery says something like "cannot mount cache" causing the flashing to not work, I can fix that through the eng hboot?
Gopher love said:
thanks man. That helped a lot. One last question? By check what it is do you mean look up on the internet or on my phone
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faux's kernels clearing state which rom they will work for, so pick a rom, then pick a kernel if you want, overclocking isnt really necessary on our phones since its plenty fast already
btw royalginger is based on cm7 which is based on aosp
kimbernator said:
So if i ever have an issue like some people are having where recovery says something like "cannot mount cache" causing the flashing to not work, I can fix that through the eng hboot?
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i assume it would depend on the exact reason why it stop reading the cache partition. I do know i've see a few threads where people flashed a different recovery image and was able to re flash a ROM and getting it work. But then again it'd all depend on why it failed.
smatthew45 said:
faux's kernels clearing state which rom they will work for, so pick a rom, then pick a kernel if you want, overclocking isnt really necessary on our phones since its plenty fast already
btw royalginger is based on cm7 which is based on aosp
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Yea.. The phone is plenty fast.. But that's just me.. i like to see how much father I can push it.
Is there a newer version of eng hboot above 0.85
EDIT:
While we're on the subject of radios, where can I download the latest version for mt4g
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first sorry for being a noob on this things..
i got a wildfire A3333 with android 2.2.1 running on it..
my question is..i want to root my phone..its possible? what should i do first? do i need to check anything b4 starting to root it?
and again..sorry being a noob :'( please help me!
You have to get S-OFF using Revolutionary. Don't touch Unrevoked, because its not needed and will not work. You can refer the outline of the process here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1029318
after i doing this S-off stuff, its means my phone is rooted and i can run livewallpaper?
No. You will have to install a ROM which supports it. (Which can only be done after getting S-OFF, so its unavoidable)
Just a word of caution - Live Wallpapers immensely slow down the Wildfire, except a few ones.
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No. You will have to install a ROM which supports it. (Which can only be done after getting S-OFF, so its unavoidable)
Just a word of caution - Live Wallpapers immensely slow down the Wildfire, except a few ones.
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except a few ones? didnt get what ur means buddy..
There are just a few I personally have tested which doesn't seem to slow down the phone as much as others.
- Starfield 2D
- Solar Wind
- Pixel Rain
- Nexus Like Live Wallpaper
There are probably more out there, but, with the above 4, slowdown is minimal, atleast for me.
ok last question here..
what is the different between rooted and unrooted wildfire..also the advantage of doing this root things :S
Advantages are potentially plenty. You can:
- Install Custom ROMs, including ones with Android 2.3.5
- Remove System Apps from ROMs you dont need
- Live Wallpaper Support
- Proper Apps2SD Support
- Many Root only apps like Titanium Backup (App Backup), SetCPU (Overclock CPU) etc.
In a nutshell, thats about it. There are quite a few more, but I'll keep my post short.
Obviously, none of the above things can be done without rooting your device.
ok many2 thx to u @3xeno..
do u think this stuff easy to do for a novice like me? i really wanna do it..but afraid will broke my wildfire >.<
I would say yes. Everyone is a novice when they start off, so, don't worry about it.
Besides, I would say the process is pretty safe (and easy - Its literally 1 click. I remember the process when Symbian S60 V3 had to be hacked. It needed a digitally signed certificate from an authority!) as well. Haven't seen any brick reports yet. Further, everything is reversible, so you shouldn't have issues claiming warranty in the future if the need arises.
Cyanogen Mod 7 <<-- what is this? i have read it somewhere.. :S
Cyanogenmod 7 is an 2.3.5. AOSP (android open source project) Rom, very fast and stable but it has no sense UI
Edit:It has some problems with GPS and Bluetooth file transfer but i think that can be resolved by flashing a new radio image
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Cyanogenmod 7 is an 2.3.5. AOSP (android open source project) Rom, very fast and stable but it has no sense UI
Edit:It has some problems with GPS and Bluetooth file transfer but i think that can be resolved by flashing a new radio image
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so u means if i put this on my wildfire it will bring some problems? and do u know how to fix the problems?
Well I don't know, because when I flashed it i didn't notice any problems except for the Bluetooth. But It's not the same for every phone.
Anyways no major problems, and I recommend that you do a nandroid backup before you flash any Rom just in case something goes wrong.
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I finally decided to root my g2 but I'm quickly becoming overwhelmed with all the possible choices and information. This is what I'm looking for and hopefully somebody can tell me the simplest way to achieve it.
I want good gps and working Google talking navigation.
I need working wifi calling.
I want to safely over clock.
I am not overly concerned with appearance, i just want something that works well with no bugs. I've been using cm7 nightly on my nook color and I'm happy with it, but does cm play nice with gps now? I've read several threads about other roms and that's why I'm stuck. I really don't want to have to experiment with a dozen different setups. Thank you ahead of time!
Most ROMs in the dev section provide all 3 of those. Any custom ROM allows overclocking, nearly all provide WiFi calling (or you can add it later), and gapps provides your navigation/gps functionality.
You can read before installing whether or not there are known bugs (some AOSP ROMs have GPS issues), and then troubleshoot afterwards if you have issues.
Just be sure to back up with ROM manager before you flash, and you can always go back to the previous setup if you're unhappy with the way your chosen ROM performs for you.
I'd recommend the ROM in my signature to meet all of the needs you mentioned. It's fast, reliable, and has incredible support... essentially it's a moderately modded version of CM7.
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Be sure to follow the wiki for rooting its flawless.
As for rom choice I always, always end up back on CM7. Nothing beats its out of the box functionality and stability.
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I've used Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 and now I'm on InsertCoin Sense 2.1+3.0. Both are great and should fit your needs.
Basically, once you root your phone changing ROMs is easy so you can try different ones and see which you like best.
Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
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Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 is Sense 2.1, so it's not slower than stock (in fact it's faster, thanks to optimizations and Virtuos OC Daemon) and doesn't have any weird issues.
InsertCoin is developed by a different team and uses a different kernel (rmk), so I wouldn't call it a variation. It's also different in that it combines elements from Sense 2.1 and 3.0, while Virtuos ROMs are either full 2.1 or full 3.0.
i guess we all missed the main point here and is how to root lol heres the best guide for rooting your G2/Desire Z:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
about the ROMs if you like CM7 go ahead and try it for, its the same as the one you have on your nook, and yes you can overclock without adding anything
about gps on cm7 most people have had trouble with it, but you just need to try cause i really never had any problems
Yea wipe efs before flashing, it will eliminate a lot of common issues with gps and such. Superwipe + will wipe everything well. Don't forget to flash recovery and do a nandroid backup! Also to make the transition easier backup with titanium backup pro. I use virtuous glite btw it looks stock except with light overclock and it is solid. Virtouos basically took the stock rom removed a lot of the bloat and overclocked and pre-rooted it. Works great my only hiccup was I had to grab the swpye beta apk. Aside from that I just restored my apps and I was away.
kingston73 said:
Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
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Gapps is embedded in the ILWT ROM, as is the EFS wipe tool, to help eliminate GPS issues (plus radio suggestions/info in the OP). Wifi Calling can also be added during ROM install. The OP gives all the info you could possibly need in his thread. Give it a thorough read... seems to cover all the things you've mentioned. And I've had nothing but best experience with it... been running it since nightly 186.
I've successfully rooted following the wiki, I was pretty nervous about screwing it up but everything went smoothly and exactly how it was written. I installed RomManager and flashed "clockworkmod recovery" and then clicked on "backup current rom" and it rebooted the phone and gave me several choices. I used the volume button to select "backup and restore" and selected that, and now it is showing me a screen with a top hat over an orange ring, it's just sitting there with no progress bars and no words. I was following the directions from this site:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
but it doesn't look like the screens on that site right now.
Is this supposed to happen, or did I somehow screw something up when I've barely gotten started?
You still need to flash a Recovery... you can do this through Rom Manager... but use version 3.0.2.4. Or, you could check out the Recovery in my signature. 4EXT Recovery... it's pretty wonderful. After you flash your chosen Recovery you will be able to make a NANDroid backup.
Misread your post. Yeah, you probably used the trackpad... sorry.
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Did you use the power button to select?Don't, use the trackpad
I thought clicking "flash clockworkmod recovery" was flashing a recovery? My big question is what do I do right now, as things seem locked up with just the hat/orange ring on the screen. It's been that way for about 5 minutes at least. Can I power off without hurting anything? And yes, I used power to select "backup/recover".
Press it again and then use the trackpad to scroll and select,that screen is like a screensaver so to speak.
Bombadier,
Many, many thanks to you, I was afraid I'd royally screwed up. If it wasn't for your help in my ADB thread I wouldn't have made it this far, many and much thanks!
No problems happy to of helped
Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
When you log into google your apps are synced,would recommend getting titanium backup though,a good app which can backup,restore apps,upload to dropbox,uninstall system apps very useful indeed
kingston73 said:
Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
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Before you flash a new ROM, download "Titanium Backup" off the market and use the Menu button to select Batch. Do a backup of all your apps and data (not system data), and when you flash a new ROM, reinstall Titanium, select Batch mode again, and restore all missing apps and data.