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The Processor in the X1

Coming from the Rokr E6(that came out in 2006) that has a intel PXA270 Rev7(v51) processor, a part from the built Ati graphic chip in the Qualcomm I am very dissapointed. I know the the processors are different but come on, The E6 was clocked at 312MHZ and could be boosted to 530MHZ and 624MHZ and was a single core processor. Today I got real excited because I found this app called nueCPL-ClockSpeed v1.3 thinking finally I will be able to this push Duel core Processor higher than a measley 528mhz.Sadly, come to find out the app limit to push the processor was only 528mhz. I posted a screen shot to show. Does anybody that knows the ins and outs of the Qualcomm MSM2700, know if it can be pushed higher than 528MHZ and would be so kind enough to list the apps that can do it.

After searching this forum for some type of answer, I came to the conclusion that I'm never buying a phone with a qualcomm processor again.

Viper89 said:
After searching this forum for some type of answer, I came to the conclusion that I'm never buying a phone with a qualcomm processor again.
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lol, you aren't the first person to express disappointment with qualcomm.
It's not a bad processor, but for our smartphones (which the average XDA member probably requires a lot of CPU power) it is a little weak. I think the average Joe with a stock WinMo phone would be fine with it, but I must admit I am underwhelmed.
I want Snapdragon in my next phone.

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200a&c=qualcomm_msm7200a
on this site you have mostly all smartphones and their processors. and its said that 528Mhz is the Max recomendable speed so i gues its not possible to set it to more then 528MHz. but if you look at devices with these processor X1 was one of the first that used this processor. and even this year there were good phones that used this 2 year old processor technology (HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC HERO). Shure its no 1 or 1.5 GHz Snapdragon but i think its a fine processor. N97 has weaker processor and alot of folks think N97 is better than X1 (I still dont agree with them).

gbajzelj said:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200a&c=qualcomm_msm7200a
on this site you have mostly all smartphones and their processors. and its said that 528Mhz is the Max recomendable speed so i gues its not possible to set it to more then 528MHz. but if you look at devices with these processor X1 was one of the first that used this processor. and even this year there were good phones that used this 2 year old processor technology (HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC HERO). Shure its no 1 or 1.5 GHz Snapdragon but i think its a fine processor. N97 has weaker processor and alot of folks think N97 is better than X1 (I still dont agree with them).
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thank you for the link, it's not a bad processor but it's defiantly to weak to run WM, My phone freezes everyday which is freakin ridicouls I've never had this problem with my old phone which had a far less superior processor, then again my old phone ran linux and I'm using the original rom that came with the phone but still thats no excuse for having to reset my phone every day and even running the latest thigs to improve perfomance like advace config etc.....

Hi guys, i think most of you have heard the rumor about the X1 CPU is underclocked to 400MHz.
Is it true or not? I found something about the battery status app showing only 400MHz, but someone said that 400MHz is the max frequency battery status can show. Then i found something with the Xperia X2 info tool (dont know the name) showing 400MHz, too.
I downloaded nueClockControl, it shows 528MHz.
loco

locomarco said:
Hi guys, i think most of you have heard the rumor about the X1 CPU is underclocked to 400MHz.
Is it true or not? I found something about the battery status app showing only 400MHz, but someone said that 400MHz is the max frequency battery status can show. Then i found something with the Xperia X2 info tool (dont know the name) showing 400MHz, too.
I downloaded nueClockControl, it shows 528MHz.
loco
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The frequency IS 528MHz. Try the JBenchmark estimator if you don't believe nueClockControl:
http://www.jbenchmark.com/jbacepr.jsp Mine shows 515MHz estimated.

Some MSM chips can be overclocked. I have had my TP run at 800Mhz before.
Check THIS out.
Pretty sure it won't work with the X1 but who knows.
dwizzy130

Unfortunalety it's not working with X1 (stock german ROM). The phone freezes instantly when i confirm the Clock change to 768 MHz.
I was a little disappointed of the X1, when i tried to run Super Mario or Mario Kart on SNES Emu (not to mention Metal Slug 2 @ FinalBurn, it's even worse). I thought this would be working better with more than 500Mhz and 256mb RAM. I hate to play games without sound.
I wish it would be as good as a PSP at 222 MHz. Ok, PSP has only 480x272, but also it has only 32mb RAM and only 2mb RAM for GPU.

Vipe'
I feel your pain. Add me to those who are disappointed with the Qualcomm 7200 and will not buy another WinMo phone without a 1 GHz processor. Otherwise, here are some confirmations and other observations:
- The current X1 processor DOES run at 528 MHz as others have mentioned above
- It CAN be overclocked to 768 (or so) with neuOverclock and it's like a sweet dream, but...
- neuOverclock is highly unstable. Most of the time it simply freezes the phone, requiring a reset. For some reason I could only usually get it to work about once a day, no matter how many variations I tried (eg in airplane mode etc etc).
- Unfortunately the genius (seriously) who developed nueOverclock has gone completely silent on his web site and is not still developing - huge bummer in my opinion. I would make a big donation to anyone who could provide a solid overclocking program, and I bet I'm not the only one.

dwizzy130 said:
Some MSM chips can be overclocked. I have had my TP run at 800Mhz before.
Check THIS out.
Pretty sure it won't work with the X1 but who knows.
dwizzy130
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ring-bearer said:
Vipe'
I feel your pain. Add me to those who are disappointed with the Qualcomm 7200 and will not buy another WinMo phone without a 1 GHz processor. Otherwise, here are some confirmations and other observations:
- The current X1 processor DOES run at 528 MHz as others have mentioned above
- It CAN be overclocked to 768 (or so) with neuOverclock and it's like a sweet dream, but...
- neuOverclock is highly unstable. Most of the time it simply freezes the phone, requiring a reset. For some reason I could only usually get it to work about once a day, no matter how many variations I tried (eg in airplane mode etc etc).
- Unfortunately the genius (seriously) who developed nueOverclock has gone completely silent on his web site and is not still developing - huge bummer in my opinion. I would make a big donation to anyone who could provide a solid overclocking program, and I bet I'm not the only one.
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thank you two for the info, I defiantly going to try nueOverclock out.I was actually looking for something in the 600-650mhz but 800mhz is impressive. Edit: well like expected it hung the phone instantly, O well maybe I can get ahold of the developer and incourge him to continue this project

Viper89 said:
thank you two for the info, I defiantly going to try nueOverclock out.I was actually looking for something in the 600-650mhz but 800mhz is impressive. Edit: well like expected it hung the phone instantly, O well maybe I can get ahold of the developer and incourge him to continue this project
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Go for it! Tell him I got $20 in my pocket I'm ready to part with!

If someone could really develop a stable overclocking tool, i would pay for that too.
I'd like to buy a HD2, but without a contract(subscription) it costs over 650€ here in Germany.
Even with subscription it costs 220€ + 35€/Month for 2 years.
I can only dream of 1GHz Snapdragon and 4.3 inch screen
PS: I bought my Xperia for 280€ (with 8GB Micro SD) from Ebay in September.
The previous owner paid 720€ (without subscription) at release ...
PPS: Iphone 3GS 32GB is about 850€ without subscription, thats kind of weird

Damn.. I was rlle excited to see some people as frustrated as me with quads performance and were looking for ways to improve it but the fact nueOverclock just freezes is a letdown also. I hope someone can find the creator or another usefull method!! let the search begin!

[CLOSED/G2] Crazy boot-up time & Specs

Is this something we can bring back into the original desire?
Also, anyone concerned about the 800mhz vs the 1ghz on the desire?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWPMens9C8
Holy crap. It's seriously like 3-4 seconds.

I think the 800MHz CPU is gonna be as effecyive as a 1GHz one tbh. Remember the Moto Milestone (or Droid, depending)? Had a 550MHz CPU and was still stupidly fast. It even holds it's own in the current world of mobiles
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Yeah, much newer Qualcomm CPU

TheGrammarFreak said:
I think the 800MHz CPU is gonna be as effecyive as a 1GHz one tbh. Remember the Moto Milestone (or Droid, depending)? Had a 550MHz CPU and was still stupidly fast. It even holds it's own in the current world of mobiles
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Yeah, much newer Qualcomm CPU
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Is it dual core as well? Or simply a 45nm die shrink of the existing architecture?

TheGrammarFreak said:
I think the 800MHz CPU is gonna be as effecyive as a 1GHz one tbh. Remember the Moto Milestone (or Droid, depending)? Had a 550MHz CPU and was still stupidly fast. It even holds it's own in the current world of mobiles
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Yeah, much newer Qualcomm CPU
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Ye me also thinks it's all about drivers and implementation, offloading more onto GPU. When drivers suck, performance sucks too, jerky scrolling and so on... but the youtube videos suggest it's insanely smooth

Nope no dualcore.
I suspect it's just underclocked to favor batterylife.

kennethpenn said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWPMens9C8
Holy crap. It's seriously like 3-4 seconds.
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this is a must have device

Apparently according to GSMarena i thinnk it waas the benchmarking scores are high even for a 1ghz and it being 800mhz , im guna wait for linpack scores before i buy i new phone (how sad does that sound ) ) its this desire HD or Milestone 2

Yea. It's probably because it's got a new GPU.
Or.. We think there is a new GPU.

This is really impressive. I don't know if it is full boot (or maybe something like hibernation on PC) but it still looks amazing!

Seen the Engadget post a while ago. Wish I had waited a while before upgrading ;(

Helloooooo to my next phone
Im really pleased we have a HTC with qwerty and android finally, was a bit dissapointed that I only saw it available as the G2 yesterday but looked today and theres the press announcement

Wow! Been thinking about ditching my blackberry bold for the torch, but I think I'll get this instead.
Bit of a WM fan but android looks good, still loads of apps/hacking etc.
Oh please god i hope Orange get this (or O2)
Upgrade due in October. Yay!

Qualcomm says 7X30 uses the same Scorpion core, so it's probably underclocked, meaning we could setcpu it back up to 1ghz.

Zaim2 said:
Qualcomm says 7X30 uses the same Scorpion core, so it's probably underclocked, meaning we could setcpu it back up to 1ghz.
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Well for me if it's fast enough no need to overclock it and there must be a reason to be underclocked so don't really mind..im really curious about the new display,don't really see the point to push a phone to it's limits just to see the numbers ) my nexus that i teribly love it just works fine and snapier than ever,i will change it in favor of keyboard but i'm still thinking of keeping it rather than sell it and buy the z...Good phone!
Edit:Anyone have any ideea the multitouch is it better?i realy want a better multitouch since new games are developed for android like "nova,sandstorm etc etc" wich are super cool games but the crappy multitouch on my nexus make them difficult to play.

looks frickin awesome. kind of makes me happy that i couldn't afford an unsubsidized Nexus One xD

It seems to take much longer to boot in another video.
(The Engadget size comparison video, where the Z is booting)

kennethpenn said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWPMens9C8
Holy crap. It's seriously like 3-4 seconds.
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Can they remove battery and then put it back and do the test?

Someone said it boots so quick because it doesn't actually boot - it resumes from hibernation. So removing the battery will have no change I don't think. But a full reboot will still be slow.
So it begs the question - what is the point of this fast resume anyway? Who puts their phones in hibernation...

wywywywy said:
Someone said it boots so quick because it doesn't actually boot - it resumes from hibernation. So removing the battery will have no change I don't think. But a full reboot will still be slow.
So it begs the question - what is the point of this fast resume anyway? Who puts their phones in hibernation...
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I think it's you when you power off you actually do hibernate without knowing and then it boots in 2 secs, so it makes sense... In such case, an actual reboot would take longer than shutdown and bootup.
When you install new application and it asks you to reboot, then it might take longer than 2 secs.. if reboot also takes 2 secs then it would be even more impressive!

[Q] D2 vs. D2G overall

hey guys, im looking to upgrade the the D2 or D2G and wanted to know if there are any real world differences?
is the D2G processor noticeably faster/better?
is there anything different between the stock android OS?
comparable battery life?
overall impressions of the two?
thanks

Here is my opinion on your questions:
1.The processor is noticeably faster. On the stock Blur OS that it ships with I would average between 1600 and 1700 on quadrant and I would only get that on the reg D2 with overclocking
2. The only thing I noticed was the updated dialer. The one that is in the next DX update.
3. This is the con. Battery life is much lower than on the D2.
Except for the battery life, the D2G is a much better device.

ZeroOveride said:
Here is my opinion on your questions:
1.The processor is noticeably faster. On the stock Blur OS that it ships with I would average between 1600 and 1700 on quadrant and I would only get that on the reg D2 with overclocking
2. The only thing I noticed was the updated dialer. The one that is in the next DX update.
3. This is the con. Battery life is much lower than on the D2.
Except for the battery life, the D2G is a much better device.
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The Droid 2 Global comes with a 1.2 ghz processor vs the 1 ghz processor in the original Droid 2. That would be why its faster and why it has a lower battery life.

I clock my D2G at 800mhz in SetCPU and it still feels faster than the regular D2 and the quadrant scores are about the same with the regular D2

Hi all, can anyone confirm that Milestone 2 makes hd videos while d2g and d2 only dvd?
If it is, it's only a software feature?
It's possible that d2g processor is the same of d2 but overclocked? From ZeroOveride benchmarks seems it isn't...

ZeroOveride said:
I clock my D2G at 800mhz in SetCPU and it still feels faster than the regular D2 and the quadrant scores are about the same with the regular D2
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Don't quote me on this but I thought I had read somewhere that there was a difference in the processor and that it isn't overclocked. The reason being is that it has the HD video recording capabilities while the D2's processor does not.
I could be mistaken and can't exactly remember where I read it but I vaguely remember this.

Battery life is important. The d 2 is sill very fast.
Sent from my DROID2 using Tapatalk

About my question regarding video recording resolution, look at this image picked up from Texas Instruments website: Droid2 cpu (3620) allows 720x480 videos while d2g and European Milestone2 (3630) allow HD video recording, so I think d2g limitation to 720x480 is a software limit that will be removed.
Standing to this tab d2g has the same Milestone2 cpu but factory overclocked.
What about 12MP camera resolution shown in the image?

My guess about the megapixel is that the lens in the camera is the limitation. While the processor is capable of processing the higher megapixel, the senor in the camera lens probably cannot.

thanks for all the info guys. im tryin to do some reading about new ROMs and whatnot but what is all this stuff about rooting? i assume its something about getting into the 'root' of the OS and changing/unlocking some stuff. im currently using a Touchpro2 and am suprised at the different terminology lol
anyone care to explain this to a newb?

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thanks for all the info guys. im tryin to do some reading about new ROMs and whatnot but what is all this stuff about rooting? i assume its something about getting into the 'root' of the OS and changing/unlocking some stuff. im currently using a Touchpro2 and am suprised at the different terminology lol
anyone care to explain this to a newb?
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Just get 4zroot for all of your rooting needs. Root gives you super user permissions so you can do whatever you want.

ZeroOveride said:
Don't quote me on this but I thought I had read somewhere that there was a difference in the processor and that it isn't overclocked. The reason being is that it has the HD video recording capabilities while the D2's processor does not.
I could be mistaken and can't exactly remember where I read it but I vaguely remember this.
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I have read this as well. It makes sense, too.

does anyone have issues with extremely short battery life and/or high temps while using the phone? iv seen a couple different websites with people reporting these issues. i expect the battery to be minimal with all the apps and data stuff but is it really unbearable? does it get better? how hot does ur phone get?

Managed to get ten to twelve hours out of mine with root, launcher pro, and set cpu. Doesn't get overly hot, but can warm up a bit.
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imaudi5000 said:
does anyone have issues with extremely short battery life and/or high temps while using the phone? iv seen a couple different websites with people reporting these issues. i expect the battery to be minimal with all the apps and data stuff but is it really unbearable? does it get better? how hot does ur phone get?
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I recently switched from the original Droid to the Droid 2 Global. I saw a significant decrease in battery life.
And then I rooted and installed Fission 2.4. Battery life got even worse and there were a couple of times when heat was pretty much insane! (I decided to pull the battery for an hour to let things cool off.)
The latest Fission ROM (2.4.2) seems to have taken care of that and things are pretty smooth. Not quite as good as my original Droid, but the processor in the D2G is twice as fast, so I don't expect the same. The RAM is high enough that I've found I can underclock the CPU a bit and still get significantly better performance than the original Droid.

[Q] Just bought TF101, My Adventure in Rooting & Jelly Bean

So, nabbed an Asus Transformer TF101 off Craigslist for $225. With keyboard. Feeling good about that.
Next question for semi-geeky me. To leave a decent Ice Cream Sandwich -- the ASUS-approved version -- on the tablet or to venture into the unknown world of rooting and custom Jelly Bean ROMs? Sheesh. I tried to resist. But... just... could... NOT...
Did I mention I didn't have a Windows PC to make rooting a bit easier? That left me with the need to do it via an iMac. I've gone and lost that url, but think it is one of the pages on this site.
From there, how do I pick a ROM? All sorts of threads, all of 'em messy (at least to the noob in the room). So I noted EOS got a lot of uptalk and went that route. After more than few false starts (manually typing in command lines kept introducing unintentional HUMAN ERROR into the mix) I got lift-off.
Did I mention my wife owns a Nexus 7 (one of the nicest little bits of hardware/software I know of... no no, the Nexus, not her!! She's stellar, but I digress).
In light of the Nexus' buttery feel, I was hoping for similar from my Asus Transformer. Well, not quite. Maybe the dual vs quad core chip has something to do with that. But I do very much like my larger (10") screen vs. her 7" and the keyboard... and Jelly Bean seems pretty darn nice even on a dual core tegra chip. Still hoping for a little more butter as the EOS nightly people do their thing. (I thank and thank them!!)
Oh. EOS answered my next problem before I got to it. How to overclock? Right in the setup I can do it.... tried all sorts of settings there and ended up with backing it off to only 1.2 (from 1.0) ghz. Not a game-player, just a blogger. Downloaded all my favorite apps -- kindle reader, YouVersion Bible, Skype, and so on. Oh, and of course some board games so I can play 'em with my Dearling.
Last night EOS suddenly updates my gapps. Hmmm. No big change, except maybe things are slightly snappier?
Questions I still have:
I installed an older (I think) booter/recovery module (or whatever the heck it is called). "Team Rogue" "Rogue XM Recovery 1.5.0 (CWM-Based Recovery v5.0.2.8)"
This recovery does not let me write to my external SD card (or even read from it) but will write / read to a USB stick if I mount it of course via their menu. My question:
Is this the newest and best boot/recovery tool? And if not, how and to what tool should I upgrade/switch?
Really enjoying my toy.

I've come up with a few more questions of a semi-general nature... but perhaps overly technical. If wrongly posted here, please advise...
Why does the Tegra 2 chip in my TF101 apparently change speeds and therefore frequencies? Using the setup app in EOS's version of Jelly Bean, one can alter two frequency / speed settings -- minimum and maximum -- and I'm thinking that is one frequency per core?
The reason that matters is because I'm experiencing an occasional spontaneous reboot. My settings were at 216 MHz (minimum) and 1200 MHz (maximum). I'm in over my head at this point as far as knowing if the lower value in particular is too low.
Anyone else have any thoughts?
Thanks.

shonkin said:
I've come up with a few more questions of a semi-general nature... but perhaps overly technical. If wrongly posted here, please advise...
Why does the Tegra 2 chip in my TF101 apparently change speeds and therefore frequencies? Using the setup app in EOS's version of Jelly Bean, one can alter two frequency / speed settings -- minimum and maximum -- and I'm thinking that is one frequency per core?
The reason that matters is because I'm experiencing an occasional spontaneous reboot. My settings were at 216 MHz (minimum) and 1200 MHz (maximum). I'm in over my head at this point as far as knowing if the lower value in particular is too low.
Anyone else have any thoughts?
Thanks.
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The 216mhz is the slowest speed your CPU will go on both cores. This could cause reboots if too low because the operating system crashes because it cannot get everything done it needs / wants to. Try to up it to 500 and play around with the value so you dont get reboots, low mhz is better for battery when in deep sleep etc but can become unstable.
The 1200 mhz could also cause reboots if too high, however I don't think that sounds high, some go as high as 1500 or 1600 so that is probably not the issue.
The mhz, either min or max, applies to both cores equally on tegra 2.
Your wife's nexus has 4 cores and a single ninja core for background activity, so on hers, you can set min and max for the 4 cores and the ninja core seperately.
Hope that helps!

gunswick said:
The 216mhz is the slowest speed your CPU will go on both cores. This could cause reboots if too low because the operating system crashes because it cannot get everything done it needs / wants to. Try to up it to 500 and play around with the value so you dont get reboots, low mhz is better for battery when in deep sleep etc but can become unstable.
The 1200 mhz could also cause reboots if too high, however I don't think that sounds high, some go as high as 1500 or 1600 so that is probably not the issue.
The mhz, either min or max, applies to both cores equally on tegra 2.
Your wife's nexus has 4 cores and a single ninja core for background activity, so on hers, you can set min and max for the 4 cores and the ninja core seperately.
Hope that helps!
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The EOS (#79) Rom's latest update seems to have helped some... along with my using SETCPU (which may or may not be more effficient but was suggested to me by another poster here).
I'm running with the very low 216mhz still, but have upped the max all the way to 1600mhz. So far, no spontaneous reboots like before even when running angry bird, a browser, and other junk. I used an app (SETCPU) to create a battery charging profile that allows for the tablet to run between 1200 and 1600 when plugged in and charging. More to see if it worked than because I have any real need for it.... and it did work just fine.
But I appreciate the comment re 216 being really low. And if it does exhibit strange behavior again, I'll monkey with the low setting to see if it helps.

I have my shield

And its awesome. Feel free to ask any questions.
I'm a noob when it comes to system dumps but if anyone provides me a step by step I'd gladly contribute.
PC streaming is flawless. Zero lag. I'm shocked at how good it is.
EDIT:
System dump is up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44190310#post44190310

Endorn said:
And its awesome. Feel free to ask any questions.
I'm a noob when it comes to system dumps but if anyone provides me a step by step I'd gladly contribute.
PC streaming is flawless. Zero lag. I'm shocked at how good it is.
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Was it difficult to set up the PC streaming?

It's not hard to setup PC streaming at all. Just make sure you have the latest download of system updates for your shield (mine wouldn't let me do it for hours after receiving it), then make sure your GeForce Experiece has a tick mark for Beta drivers to be installed.
Once you tell it to stream it will pop up for a prompt 1 time to ask if it is ok to join and you are done! GAME ON!
Zero lag, runs perfect all over my house and upstairs.

My SHIELD will get here today if fedex decides to deliver it today. FYI fedex is worse then usps where I live.

Is there a way you could post the default wallpaper?
Sent from a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away........

I can when i get it, but fedex will not be delivering it for at least another 7 hours

chevyowner said:
I can when i get it, but fedex will not be delivering it for at least another 7 hours
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Sounds like a long and painful wait lol I'm probably not gonna be able to get mine for another month or two though
Sent from a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away........

yay! it got here early!
will add wallpaper shortly.
Update
My internet is so extremely slow It is taking minutes to load pages, and I am having no luck uploading anything.
I have found 2 so far they are here.
Mediafire Link

Those aren't them. I'll get them tonight after the kids go to bed.
Sent from my HTC One using XDA Premium HD app

Grrr.....my internet is horrible about 2 hours downloading the new Geforce drivers, and according to firefox 2+ more to go. Maybe I should 'upgrade' my 7Mbps broaband to dialup it might be faster....Yay 7kb average download speed on dsl... I would be having more luck but the internet is causing major problems.
I also said so far...meaing i am still looking.
Is this it?
View
Here

chevyowner said:
Grrr.....my internet is horrible about 2 hours downloading the new Geforce drivers, and according to firefox 2+ more to go. Maybe I should 'upgrade' my 7Mbps broaband to dialup it might be faster....Yay 7kb average download speed on dsl... I would be having more luck but the internet is causing major problems.
I also said so far...meaing i am still looking.
Is this it?
View
Here
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That's it. Can't say I'm impressed by it... :-/

Hardcore73 said:
It's not hard to setup PC streaming at all. Just make sure you have the latest download of system updates for your shield (mine wouldn't let me do it for hours after receiving it)
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Can you post the version info from your working Shield (android version, kernel, build id)? Mine keeps saying no updates, but I'm having streaming issues. Thanks!

rustak said:
Can you post the version info from your working Shield (android version, kernel, build id)? Mine keeps saying no updates, but I'm having streaming issues. Thanks!
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Model Number
SHIELD
Android version
4.2.1
Kernel Version
3.4.10-g65c8a35
[email protected] #1
Fri Jul 26 23:30:03 PDT 2013
Build number
JOP40D.8857_206.8556
If this isn't what you're showing, PM me and I'll help get you fixed.

Op can you load up 3D Mark and run both regular and high quality benches? Would love to see how tegra4 performs on 3D benchmarks. Its a free app.

demandarin said:
Op can you load up 3D Mark and run both regular and high quality benches? Would love to see how tegra4 performs on 3D benchmarks. Its a free app.
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Apparently, I score less than most...
Highest Ice Storm Score: 11423
Highest Ice Storm Extreme Score: 9566

agrabren said:
Apparently, I score less than most...
Highest Ice Storm Score: 11423
Highest Ice Storm Extreme Score: 9566
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Those are great scores but I would've thought tegra4 score higher.
My LG Optimus G Pro 5.5 in. 1080P display with Snapdragon 600 and Andreno 320 scored:
Highest Ice storm Score: 11113
Highest Ice Storm Extreme Score: 6442
So tegra 4 is beasting on the more demanding/higher quality bench.

agrabren said:
Apparently, I score less than most...
Highest Ice Storm Score: 11423
Highest Ice Storm Extreme Score: 9566
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I got over 18k on the standard test.
Buuuut I only got a 14k in quadrant. Which is less than my friends stock SGS4. Lol
Linpack multi thread scores suck. Getting around 100Mflops But I'm thinking the 5th core is possibly the cause for that?

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I got over 18k on the standard test.
Buuuut I only got a 14k in quadrant. Which is less than my friends stock SGS4. Lol
Linpack multi thread scores suck. Getting around 100Mflops But I'm thinking the 5th core is possibly the cause for that?
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SGS4 it turns out may have some trickery under the hood to optimise specifically for these benchmark tests though giving a totally false impression. How or why samsung would do such a thing is beyond me though.
The 5th core on the tegra chip is only enabled when the 4 main cores shut down, its for power saving. Used in sleep mode primarily, but it is possible for the phone.tablet or even shield to fire up and navigate around the UI on the companion core alone. Its not intended as a fully fledged core. Might impact on benchmarks, might not, I never benchmarked my nexus 7 (which is broken now) and don't have any other tegra device to benchmark, or much else to compare the benchmark with actually.

I like using MAME to test how good the CPU function is, since besides pushing light to the display, the GPU does about nothing with MAME. A good game to test is Dead or Alive + (the zip is doapp.zip and needs tps.zip for bios). That game plays slow on all current chips, but plays the least slow on the 4470 and Snap 600. It would be nice to see if plays smooth on the Shield. I doubt it will, but IF the Tegra 4 is truly a major increase for CPU power, it should be a step above current chips.
The reason MAME does not use the GPU is all arcade games used special 3D hardware, or derivatives of chips that are not practival to emulate. In summary, it is all CPU, baby- including the newest PC version.

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SGS4 it turns out may have some trickery under the hood to optimise specifically for these benchmark tests though giving a totally false impression. How or why samsung would do such a thing is beyond me though.
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This is very common in the GPU industry. I don't really know in the mobile space (I'm not willing to make any of my code treat a benchmark differently).
I have no idea why I scored so low, as it even told me I scored poorly against other users benchmarks for the same device.