Coming from the Rokr E6(that came out in 2006) that has a intel PXA270 Rev7(v51) processor, a part from the built Ati graphic chip in the Qualcomm I am very dissapointed. I know the the processors are different but come on, The E6 was clocked at 312MHZ and could be boosted to 530MHZ and 624MHZ and was a single core processor. Today I got real excited because I found this app called nueCPL-ClockSpeed v1.3 thinking finally I will be able to this push Duel core Processor higher than a measley 528mhz.Sadly, come to find out the app limit to push the processor was only 528mhz. I posted a screen shot to show. Does anybody that knows the ins and outs of the Qualcomm MSM2700, know if it can be pushed higher than 528MHZ and would be so kind enough to list the apps that can do it.
After searching this forum for some type of answer, I came to the conclusion that I'm never buying a phone with a qualcomm processor again.
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After searching this forum for some type of answer, I came to the conclusion that I'm never buying a phone with a qualcomm processor again.
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lol, you aren't the first person to express disappointment with qualcomm.
It's not a bad processor, but for our smartphones (which the average XDA member probably requires a lot of CPU power) it is a little weak. I think the average Joe with a stock WinMo phone would be fine with it, but I must admit I am underwhelmed.
I want Snapdragon in my next phone.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200a&c=qualcomm_msm7200a
on this site you have mostly all smartphones and their processors. and its said that 528Mhz is the Max recomendable speed so i gues its not possible to set it to more then 528MHz. but if you look at devices with these processor X1 was one of the first that used this processor. and even this year there were good phones that used this 2 year old processor technology (HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC HERO). Shure its no 1 or 1.5 GHz Snapdragon but i think its a fine processor. N97 has weaker processor and alot of folks think N97 is better than X1 (I still dont agree with them).
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200a&c=qualcomm_msm7200a
on this site you have mostly all smartphones and their processors. and its said that 528Mhz is the Max recomendable speed so i gues its not possible to set it to more then 528MHz. but if you look at devices with these processor X1 was one of the first that used this processor. and even this year there were good phones that used this 2 year old processor technology (HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC HERO). Shure its no 1 or 1.5 GHz Snapdragon but i think its a fine processor. N97 has weaker processor and alot of folks think N97 is better than X1 (I still dont agree with them).
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thank you for the link, it's not a bad processor but it's defiantly to weak to run WM, My phone freezes everyday which is freakin ridicouls I've never had this problem with my old phone which had a far less superior processor, then again my old phone ran linux and I'm using the original rom that came with the phone but still thats no excuse for having to reset my phone every day and even running the latest thigs to improve perfomance like advace config etc.....
Hi guys, i think most of you have heard the rumor about the X1 CPU is underclocked to 400MHz.
Is it true or not? I found something about the battery status app showing only 400MHz, but someone said that 400MHz is the max frequency battery status can show. Then i found something with the Xperia X2 info tool (dont know the name) showing 400MHz, too.
I downloaded nueClockControl, it shows 528MHz.
loco
locomarco said:
Hi guys, i think most of you have heard the rumor about the X1 CPU is underclocked to 400MHz.
Is it true or not? I found something about the battery status app showing only 400MHz, but someone said that 400MHz is the max frequency battery status can show. Then i found something with the Xperia X2 info tool (dont know the name) showing 400MHz, too.
I downloaded nueClockControl, it shows 528MHz.
loco
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The frequency IS 528MHz. Try the JBenchmark estimator if you don't believe nueClockControl:
http://www.jbenchmark.com/jbacepr.jsp Mine shows 515MHz estimated.
Some MSM chips can be overclocked. I have had my TP run at 800Mhz before.
Check THIS out.
Pretty sure it won't work with the X1 but who knows.
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Unfortunalety it's not working with X1 (stock german ROM). The phone freezes instantly when i confirm the Clock change to 768 MHz.
I was a little disappointed of the X1, when i tried to run Super Mario or Mario Kart on SNES Emu (not to mention Metal Slug 2 @ FinalBurn, it's even worse). I thought this would be working better with more than 500Mhz and 256mb RAM. I hate to play games without sound.
I wish it would be as good as a PSP at 222 MHz. Ok, PSP has only 480x272, but also it has only 32mb RAM and only 2mb RAM for GPU.
Vipe'
I feel your pain. Add me to those who are disappointed with the Qualcomm 7200 and will not buy another WinMo phone without a 1 GHz processor. Otherwise, here are some confirmations and other observations:
- The current X1 processor DOES run at 528 MHz as others have mentioned above
- It CAN be overclocked to 768 (or so) with neuOverclock and it's like a sweet dream, but...
- neuOverclock is highly unstable. Most of the time it simply freezes the phone, requiring a reset. For some reason I could only usually get it to work about once a day, no matter how many variations I tried (eg in airplane mode etc etc).
- Unfortunately the genius (seriously) who developed nueOverclock has gone completely silent on his web site and is not still developing - huge bummer in my opinion. I would make a big donation to anyone who could provide a solid overclocking program, and I bet I'm not the only one.
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Some MSM chips can be overclocked. I have had my TP run at 800Mhz before.
Check THIS out.
Pretty sure it won't work with the X1 but who knows.
dwizzy130
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Vipe'
I feel your pain. Add me to those who are disappointed with the Qualcomm 7200 and will not buy another WinMo phone without a 1 GHz processor. Otherwise, here are some confirmations and other observations:
- The current X1 processor DOES run at 528 MHz as others have mentioned above
- It CAN be overclocked to 768 (or so) with neuOverclock and it's like a sweet dream, but...
- neuOverclock is highly unstable. Most of the time it simply freezes the phone, requiring a reset. For some reason I could only usually get it to work about once a day, no matter how many variations I tried (eg in airplane mode etc etc).
- Unfortunately the genius (seriously) who developed nueOverclock has gone completely silent on his web site and is not still developing - huge bummer in my opinion. I would make a big donation to anyone who could provide a solid overclocking program, and I bet I'm not the only one.
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thank you two for the info, I defiantly going to try nueOverclock out.I was actually looking for something in the 600-650mhz but 800mhz is impressive. Edit: well like expected it hung the phone instantly, O well maybe I can get ahold of the developer and incourge him to continue this project
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thank you two for the info, I defiantly going to try nueOverclock out.I was actually looking for something in the 600-650mhz but 800mhz is impressive. Edit: well like expected it hung the phone instantly, O well maybe I can get ahold of the developer and incourge him to continue this project
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Go for it! Tell him I got $20 in my pocket I'm ready to part with!
If someone could really develop a stable overclocking tool, i would pay for that too.
I'd like to buy a HD2, but without a contract(subscription) it costs over 650€ here in Germany.
Even with subscription it costs 220€ + 35€/Month for 2 years.
I can only dream of 1GHz Snapdragon and 4.3 inch screen
PS: I bought my Xperia for 280€ (with 8GB Micro SD) from Ebay in September.
The previous owner paid 720€ (without subscription) at release ...
PPS: Iphone 3GS 32GB is about 850€ without subscription, thats kind of weird
Damn.. I was rlle excited to see some people as frustrated as me with quads performance and were looking for ways to improve it but the fact nueOverclock just freezes is a letdown also. I hope someone can find the creator or another usefull method!! let the search begin!
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thanx
no way. s100's processor is 412 Mhz, and 9100's processor is officially 195, but actually is 185. so, s100 is twice as fast as 9100 :!:
U have to remember that the 9100 is a dual core processor.
so?
Mhz does not usually mean faster. Take Intel and AMD for example. Even though Intel has higher clock speed, it is not faster than AMD.
Just to drive that point home, at work a client started an unofficial benchmarking of systems, and results include
- an AMD Athlon64 3000+ at 2GHz, single core, single CPU... let's say this machine's speed is '1'
- an Intel Core Duo T2400 at 1.83GHz, dual core, single CPU... it's almost 2.5 times as fast.
That said, the OMAP may be dual core, but it's not 'dual core' like desktop/notebook processors. The two cores each specialize in different parts. You might notice that, for example, it's easier to multitask on these chips - while video playback won't see any performance boost and is likely to be slower.
Depending on your needs, your mileage may vary.
Omap 850 go 195 Mhz because it's downgraded by HTC for safety reason (they reply me like that) Processor is only 200 Mhz but for radio is performed by another chip.... i have both and Wizard isn't speed as Magician.
I find Sony Ericsson P900 at 153mhz to be much faster and responsive than any XDA. Although that's probably more to do with Microsoft's sketchy OS than the processor.
I think the Wizard overclocked to 264mhz is much fater at moving around the OS than a BlueAngel at 400mhz, but like someone said above, it's not so good at video playback.
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in this case, my CPU is set to - 264MHZ are there any problems
to stay on this MHZs /battery, cpu lifetime, errors and accidental
shut downs/ ?
To compare use benchmarks (TCPMP for example)
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in this case, my CPU is set to - 264MHZ are there any problems
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Hi most people find it more stable at 240Mhz omapclock speed (260Mhz true as measured by sktools) but if it is stable for you - thats cool.
Hey guys this old x-scale vs omap thing has been bashed out numerous times!! Please for our sanity no more!! :wink: Anyhow looks like x-scale is being dropped by intel.
Hi,
I have seen benchmarks on this site, but I dont know in what topic.
In summary, the wizard is almost twice as fast as the magician, and the xda executer is twice as fast as the wizard, I have seen those benchmarks but I dont have the link. Also my wizard proves day after day that it is not slow at all, any game or CPU intensive program runs smoothly just the way you like.
So, dont be misled by the frequency measure, it is unfair to compare two different architectures only with regard to clock speed only, even a small improvement in the cache technology, or the pipeline design could bring massive performance advantages to the system's processor performance.
Regards,
Mohammad
no, the wizard is slower than the magician. i have both so i know. one thing is the processor even though it is dual core (one for pda, one for phone). the other reason is the way the os manages memory, with wm5 using persistent storage rather than having things ready on ram. this is running both without overclock that is.
This is not neccesserly true, maybe wm2003 OS is much lighter than WM5, its like comparing two identical desktop computers one is running windows 95, the other is running windows2000 and claiming that the one that runs windows 95 is faster. From my point of view (as a computer engineer) Benchmarking is the only trustful way to tell.
Another thing is that dual coring the processor has removed the overhead of managing the phone hardware by the main core, and this is definitely an advantage!!!
Another plus for the OMAP processor is that it consumes less power, and we all know that the most important resource for handheld devices is power, afterall, if you want to compare the actual CPU speed you have to run benchmarks on both devices, regardless of how the magician seems to be faster.
So lets search for benchmarks and put what we get here.
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I found the benchmarks, enjoy!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=27512&highlight=benchmarks
i have my 9100 from today (used a s100 for one year.)
the 9100 reacts quicker to start,browsing...
only TT loading takes a few seconds longer
hello,let me tell you a story of my day.
let me say that is only small benchmark comparision of the two prossesors (msm 7200 and the scorpion (snapdragon)).
i know its not fair to compare the 2 devices ,but its just to see how the scorpion perform .
by the way in deviceinfo for the toshiba tg01 the proccesor name is SCORPION.
i was passing by mediamarkt germany today and the white tg01 was there to play with ,so i install sktools and test opengl and run them:
tg01 6.1 x1 wm6.1
integer 742 332
floating 19,75 7,73
ram 1200 1550
draw bitmaps 1800 800
(while benchmarking the tg01 my xperia was digging deep in my pocket )
test opengl gave me on all test 60fps (it seem the software is limited to 60 fps)
and i installed nfs undercover gl version(i almost cried there) the game runs like ps3 i dunno how many fps but it soo smooth maybe +60fps (x1 maybe run it at 10 t0 20fps max)
days of the msm 7200 are gone.
what i see is nice very impressive platform benchmark,i only hope that the next xperia will have snapdragon platform .
p.s: SONYERICSSON i want my xperia x1 with snapdragon and 8 mpx cam and accelerometer and i will be sold .
Not sure if snapdragon chipset will be that popular. nvidias tegra chipset seems to be far better and zune hd will feature it. so its only a matter of time for more devices to ship with that.
*just my opinion
Not trying to ***** out of the thread but I just don't understand the concept of nowadays smartphones are used to play games. I mean c'mon now if you really wanna play games...just buy a PSP. I'm happy w/ my Xperia as it is. If I do need a snapdragon, I'll get the Rachel but who knows when it'll be released.
well actualy i'd like to have a snapdragon because this chip was designed with the intention to suck as less power as possible. i've read something about using 1 Watt while running on 1 ghz. thats pretty impressing.
the qualcom CPU simply just sucks when it comes to power consumption and picture processing. no idea how the nvidia chipset is but so far the snapdragon is my favourite.
for the benchmarks, i cant care less. ill wait for a proper android phone/Rom since our biggest problem is the windows we are running.
i totaly respect your opinion ,
xperia(touchpro,touch pro2,diamond....) is suffering from bad video play and if i install a prog with nice 3d effect (like s2p gl)not mentioning games ,just lagging without limit.
and more programs are coming with better ui and effects ,and xperia wvga needs gpu power to keep up with these progs .
even camera need better gpu and cpu to record better video and take picture faster and better proccesing power is needed (if you use it as ppc not as phone).
personaly i use everything in my ppc,phone ,camera ,keyboard,wifi,bluetooth,gps,mp3,video player,even sometime games when i am in train or traveling.
thats the reason why i buy a ppc,if i wanna use phone only (i will not spend 500euro on ppc)
anyway this is my personal opinion .
just a little statement ... G/CPU is nearly never a problem. its allways a matter of programming skillz. just take a look at the demoscene and see what they squeeze out of lame PCs and 64kb files. and to be honest, most coders nowdays are lazy and go for heigher CPU ussage if they can save time. same for me ^^
Snapdragon and Tegra have different strengths. They actually complement each other rather well. A chip that has all of their capabilities is what I want.
what makes the tegra so special? 3D and video rendering?
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just a little statement ... G/CPU is nearly never a problem. its allways a matter of programming skillz. just take a look at the demoscene and see what they squeeze out of lame PCs and 64kb files. and to be honest, most coders nowdays are lazy and go for heigher CPU ussage if they can save time. same for me ^^
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Can't blame programmers here as mobile device keep on changing it's hardware. Software optimized for Xscale no longer working for this crappy qualcomm chip. So, we need the brutal force method (fast cpu) to ensure everything works as smooth as possible.
Too bad this TG01 only support 2100 UMTS or I will be sold as well
Hello Devs!
It is possible and if, how long we must wait for a porting TG01 Interface for X1?
With best reguards
its barley running fast enough on a device that is more than double the speed of our 400mhz cpu on the x1
even if some one ends up porting it ( i give it 2 weeks untill someone posts it in the dev and hacking forum), i dont think enough people will use it considering how it did in the reviews
the omnia2/pro interface is more useful and everything in windows interface is re-skinned and finger friendly. too bad its not as cool looking as tf3d
With that slow ass processor? Not a chance...
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its barley running fast enough on a device that is more than double the speed of our 400mhz cpu on the x1
even if some one ends up porting it ( i give it 2 weeks untill someone posts it in the dev and hacking forum), i dont think enough people will use it considering how it did in the reviews
the omnia2/pro interface is more useful and everything in windows interface is re-skinned and finger friendly. too bad its not as cool looking as tf3d
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I thought the X1 has a 528 MHz CPU
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I thought the X1 has a 528 MHz CPU
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it does but is underclocked i think to 400mhz
man you have to check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536178
tg01 has monster cpu and gpu ,i benchmarked the device and i dont see any chance for the interface to come to xperia (propably it use gles 2.0,its not supported by xperia).
cheers.
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it does but is underclocked i think to 400mhz
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I don't think that it's underclocked...nobody has ever said that it was underclocked.....so why are we finally saying this now?
And how do we make the make the CPU 500 MHz?
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I don't think that it's underclocked...nobody has ever said that it was underclocked.....so why are we finally saying this now?
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i compared to touch diamond 2 which almost have the exact same specs and the 528mhz and everything is noticeably smoother and faster. the game Xtrat is so much smoother and does not suffer from jerkiness when the screen is full of things. the Core Player benchmark is constantly %18-%20 faster on the td2 while testing the same thing
i tried to overclock it but got nothing
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i compared to touch diamond 2 which almost have the exact same specs and the 528mhz and everything is noticeably smoother and faster. the game Xtrat is so much smoother and does not suffer from jerkiness when the screen is full of things. the Core Player benchmark is constantly %18-%20 faster on the td2 while testing the same thing
i tried to overclock it but got nothing
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would be nice to get it running at full speed, i use spb ms 3.1 on standard r2 rom and dont have any complaints, but if your gonna run emulators etc.... and tf3d on your x1 it's a shame because it can be so damn slow at times.
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i compared to touch diamond 2 which almost have the exact same specs and the 528mhz and everything is noticeably smoother and faster. the game Xtrat is so much smoother and does not suffer from jerkiness when the screen is full of things. the Core Player benchmark is constantly %18-%20 faster on the td2 while testing the same thing
i tried to overclock it but got nothing
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i think this is more about htc optimizing there handsets and having better drivers. i think SE did not look into this as it was there first handset and htc used it to there advantage (instead of informing SE that the hardware could be better used).
Cast your votes, post your reasons.
I picked "under 600 MHz"
Youve made a classic mistake! Which option to people check if the want to choose either 800mhz or 1000mhz?? The first option is fine, the second option should be 'CPU will be between 600 MHz and 799 MHz', the third option is fine, the fourth option should be 'CPU will be above 1 GHz'. Or you could do it differently, but there shouldnt be any overlap on the choices!
The numbers are rounded off on purpose.
This threads kinda stupid - what do our predictions matter
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This threads kinda stupid - what do our predictions matter
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totally agree with you dude !!
is not that stupid if nevermind gives his "opinion"
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is not that stupid if nevermind gives his "opinion"
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Maybe we should close this thread and one person should just PM nevermind
Well I want to see what other people think okay? Is something wrong with that?
I set the poll to tell me who voted for what but for some reason it doesn't say who voted for what.
If most people vote for around 800 MHz and it comes out with 528 or something I will be laughing my ass off.
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I don't......
Honestly, I believe that it will be 800+. Everything else will make it the laughing stock of the community.
Actually I think it may be between 600 and 800 MHz.
Certainly not 1000 MHz. Because if they put 1 GHz on the X2 then there will be little room for future products. It would totally get rid of the need for a Toshiba TG01 (smaller, almost as thin + headphone jack + keyboard), which is a good thing for Sony Ericcson. But SE probably sees that the camera, keyboard, and build improvements is enough for the Xperia line of phones... for now.
Knowing that HTC will most likely not be manufacturing the X2, and since HTC usually sticks with the old CPU's until they becomes obsolete, I think SE might have given the X2 a theoretically faster CPU (due to a change in manufacturer which corresponds to a change in material and types of resources).
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For example, we all know that quarter vga out performs full vga Windows Mobile phones (even though the CPU for the vga phone is 100 or more MHz faster).
The main Samsung Omnia is qwvga and has 624 MHz processing speed.
While the Xperia X1 is wvga and has a 528 MHz CPU.
Now I begin to think why the hell the did the Samsung (a quarter vga device) have a theoretically faster CPU than the Xperia or Touch Pro2?
It's obvious that HTC is trying to be economical, and that Samsung is trying to do something good with Windows Mobile for once (and they failed).
So if it is still made with HTC, than I can see a greater chance that the CPU won't be as good as we want it to be.
I believe Touch Flo 3D requires more CPU and RAM than Touch Wiz as well.
Is this something we can bring back into the original desire?
Also, anyone concerned about the 800mhz vs the 1ghz on the desire?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWPMens9C8
Holy crap. It's seriously like 3-4 seconds.
I think the 800MHz CPU is gonna be as effecyive as a 1GHz one tbh. Remember the Moto Milestone (or Droid, depending)? Had a 550MHz CPU and was still stupidly fast. It even holds it's own in the current world of mobiles
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Yeah, much newer Qualcomm CPU
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I think the 800MHz CPU is gonna be as effecyive as a 1GHz one tbh. Remember the Moto Milestone (or Droid, depending)? Had a 550MHz CPU and was still stupidly fast. It even holds it's own in the current world of mobiles
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Yeah, much newer Qualcomm CPU
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Is it dual core as well? Or simply a 45nm die shrink of the existing architecture?
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I think the 800MHz CPU is gonna be as effecyive as a 1GHz one tbh. Remember the Moto Milestone (or Droid, depending)? Had a 550MHz CPU and was still stupidly fast. It even holds it's own in the current world of mobiles
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Yeah, much newer Qualcomm CPU
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Ye me also thinks it's all about drivers and implementation, offloading more onto GPU. When drivers suck, performance sucks too, jerky scrolling and so on... but the youtube videos suggest it's insanely smooth
Nope no dualcore.
I suspect it's just underclocked to favor batterylife.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWPMens9C8
Holy crap. It's seriously like 3-4 seconds.
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this is a must have device
Apparently according to GSMarena i thinnk it waas the benchmarking scores are high even for a 1ghz and it being 800mhz , im guna wait for linpack scores before i buy i new phone (how sad does that sound ) ) its this desire HD or Milestone 2
Yea. It's probably because it's got a new GPU.
Or.. We think there is a new GPU.
This is really impressive. I don't know if it is full boot (or maybe something like hibernation on PC) but it still looks amazing!
Seen the Engadget post a while ago. Wish I had waited a while before upgrading ;(
Helloooooo to my next phone
Im really pleased we have a HTC with qwerty and android finally, was a bit dissapointed that I only saw it available as the G2 yesterday but looked today and theres the press announcement
Wow! Been thinking about ditching my blackberry bold for the torch, but I think I'll get this instead.
Bit of a WM fan but android looks good, still loads of apps/hacking etc.
Oh please god i hope Orange get this (or O2)
Upgrade due in October. Yay!
Qualcomm says 7X30 uses the same Scorpion core, so it's probably underclocked, meaning we could setcpu it back up to 1ghz.
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Qualcomm says 7X30 uses the same Scorpion core, so it's probably underclocked, meaning we could setcpu it back up to 1ghz.
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Well for me if it's fast enough no need to overclock it and there must be a reason to be underclocked so don't really mind..im really curious about the new display,don't really see the point to push a phone to it's limits just to see the numbers ) my nexus that i teribly love it just works fine and snapier than ever,i will change it in favor of keyboard but i'm still thinking of keeping it rather than sell it and buy the z...Good phone!
Edit:Anyone have any ideea the multitouch is it better?i realy want a better multitouch since new games are developed for android like "nova,sandstorm etc etc" wich are super cool games but the crappy multitouch on my nexus make them difficult to play.
looks frickin awesome. kind of makes me happy that i couldn't afford an unsubsidized Nexus One xD
It seems to take much longer to boot in another video.
(The Engadget size comparison video, where the Z is booting)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWPMens9C8
Holy crap. It's seriously like 3-4 seconds.
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Can they remove battery and then put it back and do the test?
Someone said it boots so quick because it doesn't actually boot - it resumes from hibernation. So removing the battery will have no change I don't think. But a full reboot will still be slow.
So it begs the question - what is the point of this fast resume anyway? Who puts their phones in hibernation...
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Someone said it boots so quick because it doesn't actually boot - it resumes from hibernation. So removing the battery will have no change I don't think. But a full reboot will still be slow.
So it begs the question - what is the point of this fast resume anyway? Who puts their phones in hibernation...
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I think it's you when you power off you actually do hibernate without knowing and then it boots in 2 secs, so it makes sense... In such case, an actual reboot would take longer than shutdown and bootup.
When you install new application and it asks you to reboot, then it might take longer than 2 secs.. if reboot also takes 2 secs then it would be even more impressive!