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Do you think Xoom 1GB internal memory is enough?

I keep asking this question, how big is the space for apps?
But got no answer from anywhere.
Well, I searched and searched, found this:
http://xperiaandroid.com/motorola-xoom-specs-and-release-date.html
" ... Xoom is armed with dual core processors have speed of 1 GHz. In addition, Xoom also powered by a internal memory 1 GB, 32 GB internal storage capacity and can be enlarged by using the SD card. ..."
I think, that 1 GB is for app and the 32 GB is the "internal USB storage" kind.
Or is this the RAM?
Come on, why no one cannot give info about the 32 GB internal memory
A lot of people went to CES, MWC ... still no info

gogol said:
I keep asking this question, how big is the space for apps?
But got no answer from anywhere.
Well, I searched and searched, found this:
" ... Xoom is armed with dual core processors have speed of 1 GHz. In addition, Xoom also powered by a internal memory 1 GB, 32 GB internal storage capacity and can be enlarged by using the SD card. ..."
I think, that 1 GB is for app and the 32 GB is the "internal USB storage" kind.
Or is this the RAM?
Come on, why no one cannot give info about the 32 GB internal memory
A lot of people went to CES, MWC ... still no info
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I believe the 1GB number is the amount of RAM the Xoom has. The 32GB number is the amount of storage space the Xoom has. These numbers are inline with most other tablets that are coming out or that are out.

SFBPro said:
I believe the 1GB number is the amount of RAM the Xoom has. The 32GB number is the amount of storage space the Xoom has. These numbers are inline with most other tablets that are coming out or that are out.
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There may be only 1GB of application storage space though. Android phones have always had a limited space for installing apps.

RAM is used for running apps
Internal storage is used to hold movies, music, etc..... in this case apps as well
as far as running out of space you should search threads on apps to SD

eallan said:
There may be only 1GB of application storage space though. Android phones have always had a limited space for installing apps.
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And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.

lol @ this thread

generic.imitation said:
lol @ this thread
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Second that
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As is said:
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-ram-and-memory.htm

Well, I know what RAM is. The only thing I need to know is the amount of storage to install apps. Xoom has 32 gb internal storage, but no one know this.
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This would be nice!
Sirchuk said:
And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.
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Sirchuk said:
And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.
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yes adjustable storage space would be nice... lol.
how about everytime we install an app it takes up a certain amount of space, then we know how much we have left. IF we had something like that it would be amazing. I think there is something like this included with the Xoom, but it's pure speculation at this point.
I am really enjoying this thread waaay too much.

gogol said:
Well, I know what RAM is. The only thing I need to know is the amount of storage to install apps. Xoom has 32 gb internal storage, but no one know this.
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Why does it matter now? Google figured out how they wanted to install apps to the SD Card, you think they made that functionality so rigid that they can't install to the eMMC storage instead?
It's probably "up to 32gb"

Because some times, you just cannot control it.
There are apps that can only be installed in the internal memory.
It is just a simple question though, but it seems no one, not even those from popular news websites / blogs can answer this question. Although they have handled, fondled, played around the Xoom at CES / MWC *sigh*
drhill said:
Why does it matter now? Google figured out how they wanted to install apps to the SD Card, you think they made that functionality so rigid that they can't install to the eMMC storage instead?
It's probably "up to 32gb"
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gogol said:
Because some times, you just cannot control it.
There are apps that can only be installed in the internal memory.
It is just a simple question though, but it seems no one, not even those from popular news websites / blogs can answer this question. Although they have handled, fondled, played around the Xoom at CES / MWC *sigh*
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My point was Google is smarter then us. Don't worry about it.

Memory questions

Hi Android system info has the following data:
Internal: 590MB
SDCard: 2043MB
RAM: MAX:353MB
Here in Greece they use to lock part of the RAM of some devices
Whats your total RAM?
should i be worried?

Same question here , i hope its normal.

its normal and i have the same figure in Elixir..
its said that part of the 512M RAM has been reserved for the GPU unit as our CPU MSM7230 is integrated with display unit (Adreno 205)..
from a chinese forum someone claimed this reserved part as 128M, though i had no proof of this claim from any other source..
and theres also a small portion of RAM (remaining 32M) used for internal system (also quoted from the same guy mentioned above)

can you tell me of a nice startup manager so that i can prevent applications from starting as my mobile restarts?

akaloith said:
can you tell me of a nice startup manager so that i can prevent applications from starting as my mobile restarts?
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Android Assistant

iamelton said:
its normal and i have the same figure in Elixir..
its said that part of the 512M RAM has been reserved for the GPU unit as our CPU MSM7230 is integrated with display unit (Adreno 205)..
from a chinese forum someone claimed this reserved part as 128M, though i had no proof of this claim from any other source..
and theres also a small portion of RAM (remaining 32M) used for internal system (also quoted from the same guy mentioned above)
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you have mentioned an Chinese forum,Could you tell me that one thanks

after1988 said:
you have mentioned an Chinese forum,Could you tell me that one thanks
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http://bbs.hiapk.com/forum-371-1.html

iamelton said:
http://bbs.hiapk.com/forum-371-1.html
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I think he means the link to that claiming post. o

im afraid i have not bookmarked that particular post, if thats what after1988 meant..

akaloith said:
Hi Android system info has the following data:
Internal: 590MB
SDCard: 2043MB
RAM: MAX:353MB
Here in Greece they use to lock part of the RAM of some devices
Whats your total RAM?
should i be worried?
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In your packet do you had 2gb SDcard?? I'm from greece too and i didn't had!
Yes the amount of ram i think it's a little bit small, i though it was 512 clearly for user!

BiZARRe_T said:
In your packet do you had 2gb SDcard?? I'm from greece too and i didn't had!
Yes the amount of ram i think it's a little bit small, i though it was 512 clearly for user!
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My packet didnt have 2gb micro sd and im from greece too.

BiZARRe_T said:
In your packet do you had 2gb SDcard?? I'm from greece too and i didn't had!
Yes the amount of ram i think it's a little bit small, i though it was 512 clearly for user!
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the 2G internal storage is visible only when there is no external SD card inserted..
dont ask me why.. its how huawei decided things should work..

iamelton said:
the 2G internal storage is visible only when there is no external SD card inserted..
dont ask me why.. its how huawei decided things should work..
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It is mounted as /HWUserData if an external SD is mounted.

Yes, but what can you use it for?
Camera stores pictures to sd and you can't change it. Most of programs use only sd or internal. What about music, is stock player able to find files from hwuserdata?
And of course we can't install apps to there either.
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jukkus said:
Yes, but what can you use it for?
Camera stores pictures to sd and you can't change it. Most of programs use only sd or internal. What about music, is stock player able to find files from hwuserdata?
And of course we can't install apps to there either.
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apart from acting as file storage, i cant think of any other use..

iamelton said:
apart from acting as file storage, i cant think of any other use..
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Yes. I put my rmaps map data there

Link2sd?
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[Q] 16gb thrive really only 9GiGs?

ok this question may have been asked and resolved already but not to my knowledge, i own an 16 gig thrive, how ever when i plug it up to my cpu to transfer files its rds asonly having 9gigs and some chance of free space, when i checked in storage settings it read as having 14 gigs of free space....am i missing somthing? lol

virgo wattson said:
ok this question may have been asked and resolved already but not to my knowledge, i own an 16 gig thrive, how ever when i plug it up to my cpu to transfer files its rds asonly having 9gigs and some chance of free space, when i checked in storage settings it read as having 14 gigs of free space....am i missing somthing? lol
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You do in deed have 14GB of space (the system uses the other 2GB), but additional space is allocated for other uses, so that is why you only show 9GB available in Windows. When you are on the devices settings, look at what the memory is being allocated for.

Confirm 14gb
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My 32 only has 27 but that is normal for any device look at what you cell phone is suppose to have and really does have!!!

Freeing Up Internal Memory Is Like...

...freeing up space on your HDD from 1995. We are juggling with megabytes, not gigabytes... has anyone ever noticed that?

That's because phones are very different from desktop computers...

The phone could do with more internal storage...
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Well, I mean that some of us might feel that we don't have much space when we are only given less than 512MB of memory... if we were given 4GB of RAM, then most of us who do have problems would not...

It should at least have 1 GB of storage *for the user*
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Still... those 1995 hard drive are still gonna work in 50years
Quantum fireball 9gig is still powering my ftp server

MegaBUD said:
Still... those 1995 hard drive are still gonna work in 50years
Quantum fireball 9gig is still powering my ftp server
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I have a really old PowerMac 7300/200 with a 2 GB HDD that still works I use it to play domino!
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If you had 4gb of ram all the running services woukd kill ure batter in 5 minutes 1 gig of ram would be sufficient with a few gigs of internal storage
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OK... internal storage... I made a mistake...

MegaBUD said:
Still... those 1995 hard drive are still gonna work in 50years
Quantum fireball 9gig is still powering my ftp server
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leots said:
I have a really old PowerMac 7300/200 with a 2 GB HDD that still works I use it to play domino!
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In working for years with computers I have to say hard drives are very volatile. If I got more than 5 years or so out of a consumer hard drive up until the past few years I considered it good. Its the only part of your computer (besides fans) that has consistently moving parts.
But its true I do feel like its 1995 again with all this juggling of free space. Its pretty annoying actually

neverwinter said:
Well, I mean that some of us might feel that we don't have much space when we are only given less than 512MB of memory... if we were given 4GB of RAM, then most of us who do have problems would not...
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Why would we need 4GB? We wont fill up 512MB

I feel you bro, I got 62mb free on my internal memory, no more than 400mb free in my 8gb SD card and 2gb left on my 270gb HDD, so I definitely won't be using any link2sd thingies any soon, until I buy a new SD card, just because the damn phone nor the sdcard that comes with it doesn't come with any space for your stuff, due to the .android_secure folder occupying like 2gb and a half. It's pretty awkward, yet the phone is worth it.
Maybe I could be a Yottabyte but the internal memory is still pretty small
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Ye low space then the phone starts freezing not good, but thsts what TB is good for
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Integrate apps into your rom using tb its awesome frees up so much space
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psxpetey said:
Integrate apps into your rom using tb its awesome frees up so much space
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What does that do exactly?
I'm having a constant battle with internal storage.
I only have a few apps on my internal storage having moved most with APP2SD or Titanium yet it keeps going down.
Flash is like 12MB. But if I move it with Titanium, it tells me it is not installed.
Same with Twitter, If i move it, it doesn't allow me to sign in.
I constantly have 40mb or less free and yet I've got like nothing installed on internal memory. I don't know what's taking up all the space, anyway I can see for definite?
Thanks.

I have storage problems too.
I have only 130Mb of apps on the internal storage, the rest in on my sd card and yet still I have only 78mb free. Any suggestions as to the cause of this?

psxpetey said:
Integrate apps into your rom using tb its awesome frees up so much space
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Red_Kop said:
What does that do exactly?
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I think he means moving apps from the data partition to the system partition (where your base rom is stored-the stuff that is still there when you wipe data/factory reset), thus freeing up space on your data partition, which is where apps you install normally are stored.
~Troop

Sunjay140 said:
Why would we need 4GB? We wont fill up 512MB
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Yeah, when we have rooting and apps like Link2SD...

Red_Kop said:
What does that do exactly?
I'm having a constant battle with internal storage.
I only have a few apps on my internal storage having moved most with APP2SD or Titanium yet it keeps going down.
Flash is like 12MB. But if I move it with Titanium, it tells me it is not installed.
Same with Twitter, If i move it, it doesn't allow me to sign in.
I constantly have 40mb or less free and yet I've got like nothing installed on internal memory. I don't know what's taking up all the space, anyway I can see for definite?
Thanks.
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You could try this: http://www.xperiablog.net/2011/12/12/link2sd-guide-never-worry-about-internal-memory-limits-again/

Memory how much free mem do you have

Hi. I have SGN 10.1 2014 standard wifi version with 16gb memory. I expanded it by ext sd 32gb card. When I check internal memory device shows me 5gb free out of 16. Detailed search shows that Android folder takes 2,3 gb other folders 0,6 gb....... I moved almost all apps to external sd. So where in the hell is 8gb of internal sd memory. Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.

You cant move large games to external memory and also make sure any files youdo have i.e. movies or other downloads have actually been placed to your EXTSD.
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Well thats not really true. If you are rooted you can use folder mount which will do the job nicely. If not rooted then no you cannot move large files.

actually I have not so many apps installed at all and only one game (pinball)
Something is strange with this memory
Geordie Affy said:
You cant move large games to external memory and also make sure any files youdo have i.e. movies or other downloads have actually been placed to your EXTSD.
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Please post the storage section in your settings.
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I know this one same thing happened to me. Download storage analyzer and you can see the real numbers don't know why but it doesn't show the right numbers.
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Duly.noted said:
I know this one same thing happened to me. Download storage analyzer and you can see the real numbers don't know why but it doesn't show the right numbers.
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Mine has always been accurate and never had to download any extra apps.
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Try running Disk Usage (free in the Play Store) which will give you a detailed breakdown of what is stored where. I've found it very useful for tracking down what is taking up all the space.

Inernal memory is partitioned
mjasinsk said:
Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
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The issue is that the internal memory is partitioned and twhat is here called sd-card only get a part of it. The biggest other part is the system partition where Android and all the internal apps are stored. Therefore you only have this small amount of free memory.
Solution: None. Okay, you can root your device and then with some tricks integrate the external sd-card into your internal one but this is all not perfect and needs always a very fast sd-card.

mjasinsk said:
Hi. I have SGN 10.1 2014 standard wifi version with 16gb memory. I expanded it by ext sd 32gb card. When I check internal memory device shows me 5gb free out of 16. Detailed search shows that Android folder takes 2,3 gb other folders 0,6 gb....... I moved almost all apps to external sd. So where in the hell is 8gb of internal sd memory. Could someonn explain it to me....but please in simple way.
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I returned mine for a 32 model. If you can i would recommend doing so.
Woody
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mjasinsk said:
actually I have not so many apps installed at all and only one game (pinball)
Something is strange with this memory
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Do you have a lot of music on Google play? and did you happen to download them to your tablet?How about a movie they take up tons of space. You should run Disk Usage mentioned in post #8.
I have a 32 gb SM-P600, learned my lesson with my 16gb GT-N8013. I had to root and install folder mount on the GT-N8013 to get by.

Ok thx. Disk usage helpd me to clean up some folders. Some magazines took hundreds of megabytes of memory. Right now i have 8gb of free mem
kkretch said:
Do you have a lot of music on Google play? and did you happen to download them to your tablet?How about a movie they take up tons of space. You should run Disk Usage mentioned in post #8.
I have a 32 gb SM-P600, learned my lesson with my 16gb GT-N8013. I had to root and install folder mount on the GT-N8013 to get by.
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