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Internal memory?

I just got my htc legend and decided to install a few apps on it. After that it felt a lil laggy so i decided to check my available memory left, strangely it said i only had 85mb left...
i decided to test this by uninstalling every app i installed and my internal memory was still only 150mbish. So if i am correct my legend only came with 150mb memory???
I checked my app management and summed it all up and the numbers just dont add...?
I thought the legend had 512mb internal memory...?
anyone have a clue where the rest could be?
thx.

it has 512mb yes but that 512mb is also holding the Os and all the stuff that came with it so the usable space is much lower this is usually the case when you buy any device.
if you want more app space root the phone shift the apps to the sd card along with the caches

noobdeagle said:
it has 512mb yes but that 512mb is also holding the Os and all the stuff that came with it so the usable space is much lower this is usually the case when you buy any device.
if you want more app space root the phone shift the apps to the sd card along with the caches
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and how do I do that?
tx in advance.

Mhmm i had thought so...that is very annoying.
I May have to attempt a root myself.

it has 512mb yes but that 512mb is also holding the Os and all the stuff that came with it so the usable space is much lower this is usually the case
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and how do I do that?
tx in advance.
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rooting for 1.31 is not available yet . but it void warranties so ....
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1.31 root now available have fun

where's my 16gb?!

Ordered my vibrant from androidandme. Upon viewing the internal storage (thru settings and appmonster), I only have a little less than two gigs. Did i get duped?

christpuncher said:
Ordered my vibrant from androidandme. Upon viewing the internal storage (thru settings and appmonster), I only have a little less than two gigs. Did i get duped?
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That's probably just your micro SD card.

Nope. It's there. App storage is 2gb (which by the way is an insane amount.) The 16gb is internal storage for other stuff like media and files that your apps create and use.
Go to the program on your phone called files and hit 'Home'. That's your 16gb and the folder in there called 'sd' is your external SD card.

2gig for app(which is plenty),12gig for internal, and 8gig for sd
Coming from mytouch 3g and g1 I have no complaints
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Well that's a semi bummer. I was hoping to have a little more than ~2gb to fun around with. Thanks guys. Also anyone know how to get rid of the avatar and sims 3 icons?

christpuncher said:
Ordered my vibrant from androidandme. Upon viewing the internal storage (thru settings and appmonster), I only have a little less than two gigs. Did i get duped?
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How much did you pay for your device? Did you order from cellstores.com?

Androidandme.com. I got it for 170 with next day shipping

what do you need more than 2gb for?
I am only semi-angry about the Epic only getting 1GB. The DROID and many other phones have only 256MB or so, and most of those users get long more or less fine, and froyo makes it a non-issue.

who would want more than 2gb? seriously! I had a 512mb partition on my G1 and the same on my N1. holding over 150 apps and didnt even come CLOSE to filling that up, and thats only 25% of what the vibrant has. sheesh.

Once Froyo is out you'll be able to use the full 16GB for app storage.

Kind-of. Not all apps can be moved to SD with Froyo's Apps2SD implementation, some ("protected" ones) still have to stay in the normal App storage.

The phone shouldn't be marketed as such if you don't have access to even half of the advertised storage. its pretty misleading.

well when in the heck is froyo coming out? I ordered a 32gb card for mine which will all be here tuesday. and i will throw this g1 as far as i can!!!!!

christpuncher said:
The phone shouldn't be marketed as such if you don't have access to even half of the advertised storage. its pretty misleading.
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You're kidding, right? It has a formatted capacity of 12.7gb of internal storage. That's the same as having a permanently installed 16gb microSDHC card, with a 2gb partition for apps.
I guess some people just aren't happy unless they can load all 100,000 apps on the Market into their phone.

christpuncher said:
Well that's a semi bummer. I was hoping to have a little more than ~2gb to fun around with. Thanks guys. Also anyone know how to get rid of the avatar and sims 3 icons?
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MicroSD is 2gb and replaceable by any MicroSD you buy in the store.
Internal is 16gb split up like this:
Apps - 2gb
Storage - 14gb
The 14gb internal storage is mounted on:
/sdcard
Your SD card is mounted on:
/sdcard/sd

Satertek said:
Once Froyo is out you'll be able to use the full 16GB for app storage.
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That's going to be crrraazzyyyyy....16GB is a lot of space for apps....but hey why not...I sure would like to control my partitions.

raduque said:
You're kidding, right? It has a formatted capacity of 12.7gb of internal storage. That's the same as having a permanently installed 16gb microSDHC card, with a 2gb partition for apps.
I guess some people just aren't happy unless they can load all 100,000 apps on the Market into their phone.
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....or that they are just not educated on how things work.

kusotare said:
who would want more than 2gb? seriously! I had a 512mb partition on my G1 and the same on my N1. holding over 150 apps and didnt even come CLOSE to filling that up, and thats only 25% of what the vibrant has. sheesh.
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yeah but remember games now can take up to or more than 100 megs

boodies said:
yeah but remember games now can take up to or more than 100 megs
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You have a point. One some are blind to see thinking 2GB is enough....
Can't wait til Froyo!

iunlock said:
You have a point. One some are blind to see thinking 2GB is enough....
Can't wait til Froyo!
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You guys dont seem to get it! The actual App is not 100megs, the apps are like 1-5 megs...the extra 100megs that needs to be downloaded to play said app is stored wherever you decide, whether thats on the internal memory or on an sd card. It is not taken into account in the 2gb storage for app space.
So in that case 2gb is plenty enough for whats out there right now...trust us!

So will we ever get 4 GB?

After perm-root, is the rest of the NAND available?

joebobjoe said:
After perm-root, is the rest of the NAND available?
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Well, simply rooting isn't going to magically open up the internal storage; that's why it's still listed as 1.1x GB after. The root just came out this morning; just like us patient people gave the devs to root, give them time to fiddle with the storage. They'll probably figure it out soon enough.
Fortunately the storage is still a crapload. I've gone from what... 1.16GB? stock to 1.1GB, and I don't see myself using the rest of it at all.

Yup, I don't even think I need all that space. Right now I have 888MB free, and that is with ALL my apps installed on phone memory, as I prefer not moving to SD Card...
I just wanted to ask, does moving to SD Card do anything other than free up space of the phone memory? If it does make stuff run faster etc, then only I see a reason to move apps to sd card..

Freeing up space is the only real benefit for Androids native apps2sd...
Apps2ext on the other hand, was really nice to have if you like trying out different roms.
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franky1029 said:
Freeing up space is the only real benefit for Androids native apps2sd...
Apps2ext on the other hand, was really nice to have if you like trying out different roms.
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On the G1 they where able to re-allocate memory from the GPU to the CPU to increase the speed of the G1 at the cost of 3D games. Believe Cyanogen did this, Yes, 1.x gigs is plenty BUT, what if the rest of the "4 gigs" could be focused on the GPU side of things to increase FPS? hehe Counter Strike on the G2..rofl Maybe using the other space for a full linux distro? a dual boot?

Dual Boot could be very nice, yes..

That actually sounds quite viable.
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Do you think Xoom 1GB internal memory is enough?

I keep asking this question, how big is the space for apps?
But got no answer from anywhere.
Well, I searched and searched, found this:
http://xperiaandroid.com/motorola-xoom-specs-and-release-date.html
" ... Xoom is armed with dual core processors have speed of 1 GHz. In addition, Xoom also powered by a internal memory 1 GB, 32 GB internal storage capacity and can be enlarged by using the SD card. ..."
I think, that 1 GB is for app and the 32 GB is the "internal USB storage" kind.
Or is this the RAM?
Come on, why no one cannot give info about the 32 GB internal memory
A lot of people went to CES, MWC ... still no info

gogol said:
I keep asking this question, how big is the space for apps?
But got no answer from anywhere.
Well, I searched and searched, found this:
" ... Xoom is armed with dual core processors have speed of 1 GHz. In addition, Xoom also powered by a internal memory 1 GB, 32 GB internal storage capacity and can be enlarged by using the SD card. ..."
I think, that 1 GB is for app and the 32 GB is the "internal USB storage" kind.
Or is this the RAM?
Come on, why no one cannot give info about the 32 GB internal memory
A lot of people went to CES, MWC ... still no info
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I believe the 1GB number is the amount of RAM the Xoom has. The 32GB number is the amount of storage space the Xoom has. These numbers are inline with most other tablets that are coming out or that are out.

SFBPro said:
I believe the 1GB number is the amount of RAM the Xoom has. The 32GB number is the amount of storage space the Xoom has. These numbers are inline with most other tablets that are coming out or that are out.
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There may be only 1GB of application storage space though. Android phones have always had a limited space for installing apps.

RAM is used for running apps
Internal storage is used to hold movies, music, etc..... in this case apps as well
as far as running out of space you should search threads on apps to SD

eallan said:
There may be only 1GB of application storage space though. Android phones have always had a limited space for installing apps.
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And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.

lol @ this thread

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lol @ this thread
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Second that
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As is said:
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-ram-and-memory.htm

Well, I know what RAM is. The only thing I need to know is the amount of storage to install apps. Xoom has 32 gb internal storage, but no one know this.
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This would be nice!
Sirchuk said:
And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.
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Sirchuk said:
And there could also be 10GB of storage for apps. Nobody knows and it's pure speculation at this point. for all we know, it may even be adjustable on Honeycomb, so you can dictate how much space to reserver for applications.
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yes adjustable storage space would be nice... lol.
how about everytime we install an app it takes up a certain amount of space, then we know how much we have left. IF we had something like that it would be amazing. I think there is something like this included with the Xoom, but it's pure speculation at this point.
I am really enjoying this thread waaay too much.

gogol said:
Well, I know what RAM is. The only thing I need to know is the amount of storage to install apps. Xoom has 32 gb internal storage, but no one know this.
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Why does it matter now? Google figured out how they wanted to install apps to the SD Card, you think they made that functionality so rigid that they can't install to the eMMC storage instead?
It's probably "up to 32gb"

Because some times, you just cannot control it.
There are apps that can only be installed in the internal memory.
It is just a simple question though, but it seems no one, not even those from popular news websites / blogs can answer this question. Although they have handled, fondled, played around the Xoom at CES / MWC *sigh*
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Why does it matter now? Google figured out how they wanted to install apps to the SD Card, you think they made that functionality so rigid that they can't install to the eMMC storage instead?
It's probably "up to 32gb"
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gogol said:
Because some times, you just cannot control it.
There are apps that can only be installed in the internal memory.
It is just a simple question though, but it seems no one, not even those from popular news websites / blogs can answer this question. Although they have handled, fondled, played around the Xoom at CES / MWC *sigh*
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My point was Google is smarter then us. Don't worry about it.

" Low Disk Space " Solution

I know we've all come across this at least once. Whether it's your Device or, your Girls. That Damm Pop Up saying " Low Disk Space " . I now have a solution for it that isn't as drastic as Re-Flashing the Entire Rom. Believe me I was surprised it would be this simple. Coincidentally it also resolved the other Pop of of " Insufficient Memory " . I would re-post it here again, but I didn't want to double post the same thing. So I'll Link you to my original Post.
SOLUTION TO LOW DISK SPACE ERROR MESSAGE

Sweet! I've actually never had it happen, but i'll keep this in mind. I'm actually a little curious so I might try it out just to see ...

Cool. Keep me posted
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MikROMs Since 3/13/11

Thanks for this, good idea for my wife's LG Optimus - her dialer storage is always eating up the most free space and there's only like 160mb to play with total. And she's tied to the thing all the time so getting it away from her long enough to flash a new rom and set up a2sd-ext is tough - this will be a lot quicker.

cmags said:
Thanks for this, good idea for my wife's LG Optimus - her dialer storage is always eating up the most free space and there's only like 160mb to play with total. And she's tied to the thing all the time so getting it away from her long enough to flash a new rom and set up a2sd-ext is tough - this will be a lot quicker.
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Keep me posted on how it goes. I've had a few people try it on other Devices already with no issues .

I moved my dialer storage and it did next to nothing. Then i moved data for a couple games and it made a HUGE difference.
So ... be wise about what apps you move data for I guess, but I can confirm it works well with song pop lol

sixxt9 said:
I moved my dialer storage and it did next to nothing. Then i moved data for a couple games and it made a HUGE difference.
So ... be wise about what apps you move data for I guess, but I can confirm it works well with song pop lol
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It really just depends on how much data is there. Your dialer storage could have been so small it made no difference. I haven't had to worry about low storage on my doubleshot because we got almost 1GB for apps and I usually install about 200MB of apps and that's it. Some of the main memory hogs are games that need 300mb or more of additional data like gun bros ect. Angry birds also takes a chunk of space.
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strapped365 said:
It really just depends on how much data is there. Your dialer storage could have been so small it made no difference. I haven't had to worry about low storage on my doubleshot because we got almost 1GB for apps and I usually install about 200MB of apps and that's it. Some of the main memory hogs are games that need 300mb or more of additional data like gun bros ect. Angry birds also takes a chunk of space.
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Very true. But for most users Dialer Storage is Big. I still play the Hell out of Angry Birds. Sometimes the App Cahce gets as high as 50MB, and Data well lets not get into that. Since it's on the SD Card I don't much worry about it. But I always tell people to keep in mind that the SD Card Class has a lot to do with how the Apps perform form the SD Card.

sixxt9 said:
I moved my dialer storage and it did next to nothing. Then i moved data for a couple games and it made a HUGE difference.
So ... be wise about what apps you move data for I guess, but I can confirm it works well with song pop lol
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Kool thanks for the input . Yes moving App Data to the SD Card will free up a good amount of space. Just be sure your running at least a Class 4 or better SD Card.

prboy1969 said:
Kool thanks for the input . Yes moving App Data to the SD Card will free up a good amount of space. Just be sure your running at least a Class 4 or better SD Card.
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Yeah i got a 16 gig class 4 with a 1 gig ext partition. I'm not heavy with my volume of apps though. Outta curiosity i wonder how much would be freed if I move my angry birds too ... lol

Depends on how much App Data you have. I always look at how much is there before I make a decision to move it. Also gives me a good judge of what I gained. Just be aware that some Games slow down if you move App Data to the SD Card. But it also depends on the SD Card, and your SD Card read ahead. But you can always move it back.

Yeah I have no real need to move anything now. Was just curious to see. I'll look at it later when I get bored ... it'll gimme something to do.
I was having an issue with my phone running choppy occasionally and I started getting random reboots every once in a blue moon. Turned out to be my memory settings and nothing with my data storage. So I'm back to being completely satisfied with everything again.

I'm wondering how others have their read ahead speed set. I have mine at 2048kb because thats what I read was optimal. But when I experimented with v6 supercharger, it said I should set that to 1024kb instead. I also have a 16gb class 2 microsd with a 1gb partition. I'm no longer using v6. Just wondering.
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
I'm wondering how others have their read ahead speed set. I have mine at 2048kb because thats what I read was optimal. But when I experimented with v6 supercharger, it said I should set that to 1024kb instead. I also have a 16gb class 2 microsd with a 1gb partition. I'm no longer using v6. Just wondering.
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Depends on your SD Card Class, and your Device. But I've found that 2048 works well for me my Device, and my particular SD Card. My partition is 2GB. I used SD Tools to check which read ahead setting was best for me.

prboy1969 said:
Depends on your SD Card Class, and your Device. But I've found that 2048 works well for me my Device, and my particular SD Card. My partition is 2GB. I used SD Tools to check which read ahead setting was best for me.
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Thanks! I checked and 2048 is best for me too.
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
Thanks! I checked and 2048 is best for me too.
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Kool . Glad I could help.
Oh BTW peeps I know I misspell " Cool " all the time. It's intentional :silly: .

I'm running MikShift v2.1 with a2sd and when I long press on dialer storage in Titanium Backup it doesn't give me the option to move data to SD.

Do you get a minu that says "Special Features" at the top or does it say "Backup Porperties"? If it says "Backup Properties" try swiping to the screen on the right. The "Special Features" is what you want.
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Chad The Pathfinder said:
Do you get a minu that says "Special Features" at the top or does it say "Backup Porperties"? If it says "Backup Properties" try swiping to the screen on the right. The "Special Features" is what you want.
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I went to special features, and it isn't there????????

prboy1969 said:
Depends on your SD Card Class, and your Device. But I've found that 2048 works well for me my Device, and my particular SD Card. My partition is 2GB. I used SD Tools to check which read ahead setting was best for me.
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How do I figure out what is the best setting from this? 16gb class 2.