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Universal to be recognized as a USB Mass Storage in Windows

Read this article:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wceintro5/html/wce50conWhatsNew.asp
It confirms that WM5 has the USB Mass Storage driver built in, means without any additional software, we can use the storage card in WM5 device just like a USB pen drive/external HDD. This is very useful to connect the device in PCs without ActiveSync installed.
Does anybody know how to make the Universal to be recognized as a USB Mass Storage in Windows OS?

The DLL usbmsfn.dll is missing from the Exec's ROM - without that you'll not have much joy me thinks.

Hopefully much faster to
With no wifi support in activesync this may be much faster.
I find it a real pain transfering video files to my mda pro over activesync so slow

Can it be ripped from the device emulator or someone else's WM5 ROM?

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Does the Universal requires hardware-ready for USB hosting besides the necessary drivers?

No, pls don't be confused with USB host capability.
This is not related to that. The USB Mass Storage function is basically the capability to emulate the Universal so that when its plugged to a USB port of a PC, the PC will recognize the Universal as if its an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader.
If you use an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader to transport files you should be familiar with this. The benefit is that you do not need any driver for the drive to be recognize by Windows OS (starting W2k).
I myself, everytime I want to copy big size files like MP3 or movie to my Universal, I will take out the SD Card and insert it to the card reader then copy the files as its slightly faster to do so rather than using the ActiveSync.
The idea is that, with the USB Mass Storage driver that is built into the WM5, we do not need to take out the SD Card and use a card reader anymore. Just plug in the Universal and the PC can access the storage card directly with full speed.
Though this is definetely WM5 feature, but not really sure if this is implemented in Universal specifically. If anybody knows, please share.

No, pls don't be confused with USB host capability.
This is not related to that. The USB Mass Storage function is basically the capability to emulate the Universal so that when its plugged to a USB port of a PC, the PC will recognize the Universal as if its an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader.
If you use an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader to transport files you should be familiar with this. The benefit is that you do not need any driver for the drive to be recognize by Windows OS (starting W2k).
I myself, everytime I want to copy big size files like MP3 or movie to my Universal, I will take out the SD Card and insert it to the card reader then copy the files as its slightly faster to do so rather than using the ActiveSync.
The idea is that, with the USB Mass Storage driver that is built into the WM5, we do not need to take out the SD Card and use a card reader anymore. Just plug in the Universal and the PC can access the storage card directly with full speed.
Though this is definetely WM5 feature, but not really sure if this is implemented in Universal specifically. If anybody knows, please share.

Hate to burst bubbles, but the originally referenced article is taking about Windows CE5, not Windows Mobile5. While WM5 is built out of WCE5, it does not support everything that the underlying OS does or can. WCE5 is a base OS that a number of products are based on including WM devices like SmartPhones and PPC, and automotive electronics and even vending machines. At this point I know of no native mass storage capability in a WM5 device. Not to say it can't happen, as Softick provided the capability for WM2003 devices. It's just not that way out of the box.

A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?

Re: Hopefully much faster to
GDawes said:
With no wifi support in activesync this may be much faster.
I find it a real pain transfering video files to my mda pro over activesync so slow
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Use an SD card reader, or try transferring over a wifi network using a network shared folder using resco explorer.
Brilliant, trust me!

thaihugo said:
A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?
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Version 2.10 Beta now supports WM5!! Horray!
http://www.softick.com/

heidy said:
thaihugo said:
A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?
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Version 2.10 Beta now supports WM5!! Horray!
http://www.softick.com/
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Tested Working on Universal.

WOW. This is good news!

after installing it, the device hangs. I unplugged it and reset it manually. And it works. Really cool! I noticed the speed is not as fast compared to a card reader. Anyway, I'm happy that now I do not need to carry around additional thing, SD card reader, just to transport files.

after installing it, the device hangs. I unplugged it and reset it manually. And it works. Really cool! I noticed the speed is not as fast compared to a card reader. Anyway, I'm happy that now I do not need to carry around additional thing, SD card reader, just to transport files.

Sweet Software....

I install it (2.10), it keeps staying at the display when it is loading the bar and then it says that it cannot load it self...
Afterwards it uninstalls automatically...
I have Qtek ROM...

I've installed it and it works great on my Qtek 9000 (Universal). I only turn on de mass storage when i really need it, but then it works great to tranfer files from and tot every PC (no ActiveSync install needed).

I am trying to install V2.10 on my Universal and get the following:
On installation an error:
"ActivateDeviceEx" and "Cannot Load Drivers\BuiltIn\CE2. Code 2"
The install then says "Cannot Start Card Export" and "Card Export Installation Failed" and uninstalls itself.
Did a registry search and cant find any reference to that in the regisrty.
Anyone with any ideas or if they have that in their reg can they post the details!
Cheers!

DaveUK said:
I am trying to install V2.10 on my Universal and get the following:
On installation an error:
"ActivateDeviceEx" and "Cannot Load Drivers\BuiltIn\CE2. Code 2"
The install then says "Cannot Start Card Export" and "Card Export Installation Failed" and uninstalls itself.
Did a registry search and cant find any reference to that in the regisrty.
Anyone with any ideas or if they have that in their reg can they post the details!
Cheers!
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That's the same message I get!!! I have the same problem in My Qtek too...

Tethering in linux [SOLVED]

I spent a lot of time getting the 6800 to sync under linux. Finally, using synce, I have done it, all access to the phone.
Now I want to tether. I have noticed under wm6, the wmodem app is in \windows folder, but it will not start. I know you used to have to enable it via a ## code, but it wont work on the 6800.
So I either need to figure out how to get the wmodem app to work under wm6, so i can have the phone emulate a modem. Or, the second option being to possible use ndiswrapper to use it, since it does show up as a generic rndis device, and under my system as soon as i plug it in (with adv net. function tab checked under connections>usb to pc) it shows up as an ethernet device.
Please linux users jump in and lets figure this out!!

I'm not a big linux user, but this would be very good to know!

I know they tethered the iphone by setting up some sort of proxy on the phone then tethering via wifi,surely this could also be possible using windows mobile given the right app. Please dont tell me im the only linux user out there that cares!!
BTW.. the iphone runs a modified *NIX/BSD im jealous
EDIT: I have also been successful in use the program 'synce' to initiate an activesync connection with the pda. Doesnt pdanet tunnel through a connection like this?? surely there are some fancy iptables or route commands to accomplish this in linux.

USBModem
USBModem is supposed to be able to work with Linux.... There is a free trial to check out.. I'm planning on using it once the Asus Eee comes out..
http://www.mobile-stream.com/usbmodem_wm.html

usbmodem will only give you some dialup scripts which wm6 DOES NOT supoport over usb. I did however solve my problem. The svn version of synce's usb-rndis-lite is the holy grail.

watson540 said:
I spent a lot of time getting the 6800 to sync under linux. Finally, using synce, I have done it, all access to the phone.
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Can you post the resources you used, or the steps you took, to accomplish this? I'd like to tackle that problem before getting into tethering.
I see the device in dmesg as an RNDIS device (not handled by the ipaq module), but then I can't get multisync or synce to do anything with it after that. All I need to do is save my contacts, and be able to transfer files. I'm going to be replacing my Mogul soon, and I'd like to be able to restore everything once I get the new one. But in my apartment, windows machines are a rare commodity.

Can you post a wlkthrough as I joined the site for practically this very reason. Thanks in advance
J
watson540 said:
I spent a lot of time getting the 6800 to sync under linux. Finally, using synce, I have done it, all access to the phone.
Now I want to tether. I have noticed under wm6, the wmodem app is in \windows folder, but it will not start. I know you used to have to enable it via a ## code, but it wont work on the 6800.
So I either need to figure out how to get the wmodem app to work under wm6, so i can have the phone emulate a modem. Or, the second option being to possible use ndiswrapper to use it, since it does show up as a generic rndis device, and under my system as soon as i plug it in (with adv net. function tab checked under connections>usb to pc) it shows up as an ethernet device.
Please linux users jump in and lets figure this out!!
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i'm going to guess you can follow this guide but use the svn steps for the driver
http://www.synce.org/index.php/Connecting_your_Windows_Mobile_2005_device_via_USB_(usb-rndis-lite)

Anyone know how to BROWSE the contents of the HTC 6800/MOGUL on Ubuntu? I dont even want to sync, i just want to browse the contents of my Device & Storage card on my phone...
Cant seem to figure this out, SYncE doesnt seem to work for me...

please help
watson540 said:
I spent a lot of time getting the 6800 to sync under linux. Finally, using synce, I have done it, all access to the phone.
I have been searching for a way to get my 6800 to sync if you could help point in the right direction that would be great thanks. all i can find is how to get wm5 phones to sync
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Mounting the Touch Dual/Nike on Linux?

Hey guys! Good looking forum here..
I have an old Ubuntu box that I would like to be able to "talk" to my HTC Touch Dual. Even if its getting access via a "Mass Storage Device" setting of some kind. The ability to transfer files would be a start.
Problem being that there seems to be know way of doing this! At least not without installing software on the phone... which requires a way of transfering the files themselves.
The reason I'm relying on this ubuntu box is as my windows laptop has damaged USB ports that won't allow me to connect any external devices at all. [Its a hardware fault with physical damage to the ports.]
I have heard about using SynCE - but I'm not sure if what I want to do is actually "sync'ing" as such; so whether this tool will work or not is another question all together!
I'm looking for the basic ability to move files - music, videos and photos etc. For testing purposes - then it would also be very desirable for a connection as I'd like to get the Android build up on it!
Cheers in advance!

try installing active sync via Wine

Access to your phone can be done via 'synce'
See http://www.synce.org/moin/SynceInstallation
With that software you can install cabs, access files, synce data etc

Bluetooth File Transfer.

I'm looking to enable Blue-tooth file transfer, as I don't want to have to plug in my phone to my laptop everytime I want to exchange files. Is this possible?

Hi,
Yes,
Just open the Bluetooth settings in Settings -> Menu -> All Settings

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I know how to open a Bluetooth connection, I want to know how to transfer files from my laptop to my phone, and vice versa. Any clue on how to do that?

Right click on file, send to, Bluetooth? Would be a good idea to say what OS you're on.

Heartbreak said:
I know how to open a Bluetooth connection, I want to know how to transfer files from my laptop to my phone, and vice versa. Any clue on how to do that?
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You'll need to pair the devices first if you haven't already.
What operating system are you using on your laptop? Windows? Mac?

Laptop OS is Windows 7, and T-Mobile USA HD2, the devices are already linked. What would be the next step? Any help is appreciated.

Heartbreak said:
Laptop OS is Windows 7, and T-Mobile USA HD2, the devices are already linked. What would be the next step? Any help is appreciated.
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Have you connected the phone via ActiveSync using the USB cable yet?
Its not necessary to do so, but it might make things a bit quicker.
When you right-click on a file on your laptop, and hover your mouse pointer over "Send To", do you have "Bluetooth Device" listed?

They are linked, and they recognize each other, but when I right click on a picture and go to "Send to" there is no option for Bluetooth Devices. Are there any options that should be checked on the phone or computer?

Heartbreak said:
They are linked, and they recognize each other, but when I right click on a picture and go to "Send to" there is no option for Bluetooth Devices. Are there any options that should be checked on the phone or computer?
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Is there a Bluetooth icon down by the clock on the Start/Task bar?
If so, right-click on it and go to Open Settings.
Under "Connections" (about halfway down the window) do you have both tickboxes ticked?

Yea, they are both checked. It tries to install a driver and fails when I attempt to troubleshoot the phone.

Just to bring you my experience. I do not have a BT dongle on my desktop which runs seven x64 yet I prefer to use the usb cable which is always plugged, yet the few times I installed a bt dongle here I could quite easily send files, even if I don't remember the exact path
Anyway, with my ubuntu laptop it's as immediate as choosing "browse files on <devicename>" and it just opens the microsd contents, where you can transfer files to/from, so probably there's something similar in windows that I am forgetting about?
What I know is that as soon as you have BT working on your PC it shoudn't need a driver, the OBEX protocol is a standard so no matter what device you connected, if it offers OBEX, the pc knows how to handle transfers no matter what the device is

ephestione said:
Just to bring you my experience. I do not have a BT dongle on my desktop which runs seven x64 yet I prefer to use the usb cable which is always plugged, yet the few times I installed a bt dongle here I could quite easily send files, even if I don't remember the exact path
Anyway, with my ubuntu laptop it's as immediate as choosing "browse files on <devicename>" and it just opens the microsd contents, where you can transfer files to/from, so probably there's something similar in windows that I am forgetting about?
What I know is that as soon as you have BT working on your PC it shoudn't need a driver, the OBEX protocol is a standard so no matter what device you connected, if it offers OBEX, the pc knows how to handle transfers no matter what the device is
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What you have with your Ubuntu laptop, is exactly, while it would be awesome to be able to send and recieve files back and forth from the two devices, what would be ideal is the ability to browse through the contents of the device, and MicroSD, wirelessly over BT. I'm wondering if Windows 7 offers something like that or maybe a certain program for 7, might offer that functionality.

Heartbreak said:
What you have with your Ubuntu laptop, is exactly, while it would be awesome to be able to send and recieve files back and forth from the two devices, what would be ideal is the ability to browse through the contents of the device, and MicroSD, wirelessly over BT. I'm wondering if Windows 7 offers something like that or maybe a certain program for 7, might offer that functionality.
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Windows Mobile Device Center should already be installed and offers that.

Also you have to enable Bluetooth file transfer (object push) in bluetooth settings in order for your phone to receive anything. No idea why this is disabled by default.

Heartbreak said:
I'm looking to enable Blue-tooth file transfer, as I don't want to have to plug in my phone to my laptop everytime I want to exchange files. Is this possible?
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It works nicely with the right setup in Linux
PCLinuxOS 2010 with Blueman and Nautilus [/smug]

cozzykim said:
It works nicely with the right setup in Linux
PCLinuxOS 2010 with Blueman and Nautilus [/smug]
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yeah, I agree, yet the OP needs it under Win 7
Probably the input by VidMan is correct, he needs to enable the OBEX on ther HD2 as well, from bluetooth settings

kin usb drivers

does anyone have usb drivers for kin phones? it comes up as "pink cdma"

I hope you got everything figured out by now, But I recently had the same problem when I first hooked my Kin Two to my Windows 7 Comp. You think they would recognize each other right away considering they are apart of the windows family In any case to fix the problem I had to have the Zune software installed from the Zune site. the moment I installed the software it automatically recognized my phone and installed the right drivers. It then asked me to name my device to whatever I wanted it called. Now it shows up under Device Manager in the category "Portable Devices" as whatever name I chose to call it. Hope this helps.
-Matt

kin drivers
thank you for the reply

Kin usb drivers
that helped to recognize my phone, but still need usb diag drivers. it is called PINK CDMA DIAGNOSTIC DRIVERS. neither microsoft or verizon site seems to have them.

Kin usb drivers
ok so here are some more things i found after tinkering with the phone. ##77647266488 then press Call to get to a menu and go to other. if u just do the usb passthrough mode on, device manager will look for pink cdma diag driver. if u just do the PPro on, it will ask for PMX USB debug drivers. if u do both on, it will ask for USBfn composite driver. interesting...... looks like more searching

whipped up some drivers

Hello! Can anybody help me with this Pink CDMA Diagnostic Drivers?
I live in Ukraine (Eastern Europe), and my friend from USA sent me a present - Kin One phone. I know, that it is a Verizon Wireless only model. But there are some CDMA carriers in Ukraine too. So, I want to use this phone in my native country.
But I have a problem. Service-man from our carrier Intertelecom tried to download PRL-file into Kin One, but... We have no drivers.
Please, help me. Where can I get them? This phone is a present from my best friend, and I want to use Kin One very much.

Need Drivers KIN
insanecain said:
whipped up some drivers
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the drives above did not work, do anybody else have drivers for the kin.

grigsby1 said:
the drives above did not work, do anybody else have drivers for the kin.
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lmfao...they do work for DIAG mode
if you want regular connectivity drivers then get them from MS
thnx
btw- you can jump to the noob section to get regular phone drivers

"The specified location does not contain information about your device" when I attempt to use the drivers.
So no, it appears as if they don't want to work.

any news on rooting the kin two?

kc720 said:
ok so here are some more things i found after tinkering with the phone. ##77647266488 then press Call to get to a menu and go to other. if u just do the usb passthrough mode on, device manager will look for pink cdma diag driver. if u just do the PPro on, it will ask for PMX USB debug drivers. if u do both on, it will ask for USBfn composite driver. interesting...... looks like more searching
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Does anyone know what type of file you must have to import contacts in this hidden menu?

Got USB CDMA Drivers to install
There is an typo in the qcser.inf file: Vid_056C should be Vid_05C6
I changed this and the drivers installed.
I can now view the filesystem using BitPim.

Still cant get cdma drivers to install
I've been trying to install these drivers but couldn't, I also noticed the qcmdm file is also calling out for that vid_056C typo, should this be changed too?
When I point my device manager to the folder it just says "windows could not find driver software for your device". Any advice?
Also once the drivers are installed, do I have to change the internal settings for BitPim to detect it i.e. PPro, USB Pass Through, USB Vid Stream (on or off?).

I don't know anything about drivers but it seems that the qcmdm.ini file is a modem driver, not a diagnostic usb driver.

Yea, its seems so. Have you gotten the drivers to install? I am using Windows 7 and it does not appear to recognize these files as valid cdma drivers. I just want to be able to access the phones internal memory to add and delete ringtones. It seems they did not even develope a function to delete them at all.

News update
I too just tried getting into the internal memory on the KIN 1 and 2. Updating Windows Drivers will not help you any at all. So, here is something I tried and worked. Connect KIN to PC. Go to Zunes web site and click on Products and then click on Install Software. Leave KIN connected to PC through USB. After you install the software. Follow the Instructions and then it should grant you access into the Internal Memory. BUT... The downfall is that you HAVE to use the ZUNE software to access ANY Information on your PHONE... Until they adjust the software and drivers on Microsoft's End... Hope this Helps... Good Luck!

Yea I have Zune and use that to sync the typical files (videos, music, etc). But cannot access hidden stuff like ringtones. Which right now I can only text to myself and never...ever, be able to delete once its installed. There is no function to do so. I just wish developers stop locking away ringtones on these phones. I really feel its pointless to pay for a song I already have to be cut up and used as a ringtone. Ugh.

Would it be possible for you to write a quick guide on how to get bitpim to show KIN phones? this would lower the dificutly for a ton of people and really open the market of kin uses who want to edit their phone

kintworooter said:
Would it be possible for you to write a quick guide on how to get bitpim to show KIN phones? this would lower the dificutly for a ton of people and really open the market of kin uses who want to edit their phone
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10017339#post10017339