Read this article:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wceintro5/html/wce50conWhatsNew.asp
It confirms that WM5 has the USB Mass Storage driver built in, means without any additional software, we can use the storage card in WM5 device just like a USB pen drive/external HDD. This is very useful to connect the device in PCs without ActiveSync installed.
Does anybody know how to make the Universal to be recognized as a USB Mass Storage in Windows OS?
The DLL usbmsfn.dll is missing from the Exec's ROM - without that you'll not have much joy me thinks.
Hopefully much faster to
With no wifi support in activesync this may be much faster.
I find it a real pain transfering video files to my mda pro over activesync so slow
Can it be ripped from the device emulator or someone else's WM5 ROM?
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Does the Universal requires hardware-ready for USB hosting besides the necessary drivers?
No, pls don't be confused with USB host capability.
This is not related to that. The USB Mass Storage function is basically the capability to emulate the Universal so that when its plugged to a USB port of a PC, the PC will recognize the Universal as if its an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader.
If you use an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader to transport files you should be familiar with this. The benefit is that you do not need any driver for the drive to be recognize by Windows OS (starting W2k).
I myself, everytime I want to copy big size files like MP3 or movie to my Universal, I will take out the SD Card and insert it to the card reader then copy the files as its slightly faster to do so rather than using the ActiveSync.
The idea is that, with the USB Mass Storage driver that is built into the WM5, we do not need to take out the SD Card and use a card reader anymore. Just plug in the Universal and the PC can access the storage card directly with full speed.
Though this is definetely WM5 feature, but not really sure if this is implemented in Universal specifically. If anybody knows, please share.
No, pls don't be confused with USB host capability.
This is not related to that. The USB Mass Storage function is basically the capability to emulate the Universal so that when its plugged to a USB port of a PC, the PC will recognize the Universal as if its an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader.
If you use an external harddrive/USB pen drive/card reader to transport files you should be familiar with this. The benefit is that you do not need any driver for the drive to be recognize by Windows OS (starting W2k).
I myself, everytime I want to copy big size files like MP3 or movie to my Universal, I will take out the SD Card and insert it to the card reader then copy the files as its slightly faster to do so rather than using the ActiveSync.
The idea is that, with the USB Mass Storage driver that is built into the WM5, we do not need to take out the SD Card and use a card reader anymore. Just plug in the Universal and the PC can access the storage card directly with full speed.
Though this is definetely WM5 feature, but not really sure if this is implemented in Universal specifically. If anybody knows, please share.
Hate to burst bubbles, but the originally referenced article is taking about Windows CE5, not Windows Mobile5. While WM5 is built out of WCE5, it does not support everything that the underlying OS does or can. WCE5 is a base OS that a number of products are based on including WM devices like SmartPhones and PPC, and automotive electronics and even vending machines. At this point I know of no native mass storage capability in a WM5 device. Not to say it can't happen, as Softick provided the capability for WM2003 devices. It's just not that way out of the box.
A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?
Re: Hopefully much faster to
GDawes said:
With no wifi support in activesync this may be much faster.
I find it a real pain transfering video files to my mda pro over activesync so slow
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Use an SD card reader, or try transferring over a wifi network using a network shared folder using resco explorer.
Brilliant, trust me!
thaihugo said:
A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?
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Version 2.10 Beta now supports WM5!! Horray!
http://www.softick.com/
heidy said:
thaihugo said:
A laconic mail exchange with Softick told me that they are actually working on their cardexport product for full WM5 compatibility. No release date, no progress for now. Maybe if somebody want's to ask more?
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Version 2.10 Beta now supports WM5!! Horray!
http://www.softick.com/
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Tested Working on Universal.
WOW. This is good news!
after installing it, the device hangs. I unplugged it and reset it manually. And it works. Really cool! I noticed the speed is not as fast compared to a card reader. Anyway, I'm happy that now I do not need to carry around additional thing, SD card reader, just to transport files.
after installing it, the device hangs. I unplugged it and reset it manually. And it works. Really cool! I noticed the speed is not as fast compared to a card reader. Anyway, I'm happy that now I do not need to carry around additional thing, SD card reader, just to transport files.
Sweet Software....
I install it (2.10), it keeps staying at the display when it is loading the bar and then it says that it cannot load it self...
Afterwards it uninstalls automatically...
I have Qtek ROM...
I've installed it and it works great on my Qtek 9000 (Universal). I only turn on de mass storage when i really need it, but then it works great to tranfer files from and tot every PC (no ActiveSync install needed).
I am trying to install V2.10 on my Universal and get the following:
On installation an error:
"ActivateDeviceEx" and "Cannot Load Drivers\BuiltIn\CE2. Code 2"
The install then says "Cannot Start Card Export" and "Card Export Installation Failed" and uninstalls itself.
Did a registry search and cant find any reference to that in the regisrty.
Anyone with any ideas or if they have that in their reg can they post the details!
Cheers!
DaveUK said:
I am trying to install V2.10 on my Universal and get the following:
On installation an error:
"ActivateDeviceEx" and "Cannot Load Drivers\BuiltIn\CE2. Code 2"
The install then says "Cannot Start Card Export" and "Card Export Installation Failed" and uninstalls itself.
Did a registry search and cant find any reference to that in the regisrty.
Anyone with any ideas or if they have that in their reg can they post the details!
Cheers!
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That's the same message I get!!! I have the same problem in My Qtek too...
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Hey All,
I know you can store files etc on the PocketPC and its storage cards through activesync, but every time you copy from/to it goes through the active sync tranfser window etc. Also, you cant just double click a file on the pocket pc, if you do it just brings up the files properties (you have to copy it locally to open it).
Is there a way to make the pocket pc act like a storage device, such as a usb hard disk or pen drive, where you dont need activesync, you can just double click files to open them etc.
Cheers,
Jez.
yes
but it demand that the pda support usb host
non of the xda series support it
some of the toshiba pda's and the acer pda i just got the other day
support it
there are some CF cards which have usb host options
but it would require the xda to haev the backpack to use CF cards
and not sure if it would be compatible
Jez said:
Is there a way to make the pocket pc act like a storage device, such as a usb hard disk or pen drive
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Hi Jez, unfortunately this is not possible with the standard software.
Usb to disk
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413376
In the Schwartz World rom there is,in the usb to pc connections menu, a box to chech that makes you ppc a usb disk!! Only seeing your sd card as the drive. So it can be done but i've been look for the cab no luck. I've asked Vetvito about it. Noreply So i'm still looking.
Anybody Got some info? Pm me if you can Help
You can use nuemassstorage from Freewarepocketpc.net
Raju Jetla
Hello anybody! I want to transfer some mpegs to my storage card via blue tooth. My phone seems not to be sending things here by default. Is there a way to do this as there is not enough space in the internal memory to receive it and transfer it later. Thank you!
Hi - I tried a registry tweak to alter that but no joy - i think it is in the software.
There are other ways to transfer large files - a card reader attached to your pc will do the job.
Or use wm5torage which will turn your device into a usb drive.
Big files dont transfer with activesync - activesync just cant handle it. :x
wm5torage latest version attached
Hi guys and gals.
I only have 2 more issues with the Ameo at present, then I'm a happy camper.
1) Video playback (will start a new thread after some serious investigations and various setups have been explored).
2) This is a big one, but maybe I'm doing something wrong. I'm having serious problems moving large items of data to the MD via ActiveSync (AS). Not only is it damned slow, but it seems to start and then stop transfers of data if a file is big,...like a 700Mb DVD rip or even a 250Mb movie in any video format.
The only success I have had in that area is to transfer these files to SD card and then move it to MD afterwards...and that is evn slower than through AS!!
It is very frustrating for me as the 8GB is one of the major features for my intended use of the Ameo.
I am now trying to break down amovie into smaller chapters to see if I can transfer it that way, but this is ridiculous and should not be necessary. I've had a Micro Drive WM smartphone before but that was working just like mass storage device and gave no problems.
So I suppose the logical question is...is there any way to get the Athena to be recognized as a mass storage device? I've checked the CD's and there is no such software for it there. I've read the manual and that only states that data is transferred from PC to Micro Drive via useless Active Sync!
Hope someone else has a workaround for this, or maybe it's just my device or PC setup??!!
In any event there is another niggling problem in connection to this;
If moving large photo albums via Active sync, I have to make all files (hidden) to be seen in order to delete any 'database' file relating to the photos, else AS rejects the whole data transfer once it sees these automatically XP generated database files.
Once these files are deleted (do not re-enter the folder was you've deleted the database file else another one is generated!!) the transfer goes ahead smoothly...even if you have hundreds of photos in one folder.
Anybofy else experience this, or is it just me?
mackaby007 said:
Hi guys and gals.
I only have 2 more issues with the Ameo at present, then I'm a happy camper.
1) Video playback (will start a new thread after some serious investigations and various setups have been explored).
2) This is a big one, but maybe I'm doing something wrong. I'm having serious problems moving large items of data to the MD via ActiveSync (AS). Not only is it damned slow, but it seems to start and then stop transfers of data if a file is big,...like a 700Mb DVD rip or even a 250Mb movie in any video format.
The only success I have had in that area is to transfer these files to SD card and then move it to MD afterwards...and that is evn slower than through AS!!
It is very frustrating for me as the 8GB is one of the major features for my intended use of the Ameo.
I am now trying to break down amovie into smaller chapters to see if I can transfer it that way, but this is ridiculous and should not be necessary. I've had a Micro Drive WM smartphone before but that was working just like mass storage device and gave no problems.
So I suppose the logical question is...is there any way to get the Athena to be recognized as a mass storage device? I've checked the CD's and there is no such software for it there. I've read the manual and that only states that data is transferred from PC to Micro Drive via useless Active Sync!
Hope someone else has a workaround for this, or maybe it's just my device or PC setup??!!
In any event there is another niggling problem in connection to this;
If moving large photo albums via Active sync, I have to make all files (hidden) to be seen in order to delete any 'database' file relating to the photos, else AS rejects the whole data transfer once it sees these automatically XP generated database files.
Once these files are deleted (do not re-enter the folder was you've deleted the database file else another one is generated!!) the transfer goes ahead smoothly...even if you have hundreds of photos in one folder.
Anybofy else experience this, or is it just me?
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In the wm2003 environment, I used to have this utility called softick card export, whic allows the active sync to be bypassed and the unit recognised as a usb mass storage device. I used to port over my wikipedia (about 2.5GB in size for one sigle file) over with this.
However, my impression is that the WM5 version is not ready yet. I'm still looking for some equivalent product, or to wait for the WM5 version of softick.
eaglesteve said:
In the wm2003 environment, I used to have this utility called softick card export, whic allows the active sync to be bypassed and the unit recognised as a usb mass storage device. I used to port over my wikipedia (about 2.5GB in size for one sigle file) over with this.
However, my impression is that the WM5 version is not ready yet. I'm still looking for some equivalent product, or to wait for the WM5 version of softick.
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Thanks for the reply eaglesteve, but we got that sorted a few weeks ago by using WM5torage. Not as good as the Softick concept (as it doesn't rely on AS drivers), but it will do for now, as some people have also reported problems with the card export software under WM5 based Athenas.
Hello,
I'm looking for an easy and convenient way to access my HTC Trinity through a mapped network drive on my XP SP2 PC. The device is connected to a PC through ActiveSync.
I know there are 3rd-party solutions like Resco or the WinCE Device plugin for Total Commander (which I use already), but my intent is to be able to access the device's memory -- specifically, the storage card -- through a simple mapped network drive or equivalent.
The purpose is to allow a scheduled simple .bat script to download and upload specific files from/to the device's storage card.
I hope somebody can help
Thanks a million in advance,
--Clandestino
I second this request. Its a pain having to stick the SD card into a card reader and then into a USB port to gain access to the files via a PC, and to get a rate of file transfer that is more acceptable than the transfer speed of Active Sync (slow death).
Being able to access the storage card directly off the PPC via a PC would be great and save the hassle of having to pysically take the card out, as outlined above.
Hope this idea comes to life.
WB
wacky.banana said:
I second this request. Its a pain having to stick the SD card into a card reader and then into a USB port to gain access to the files via a PC, and to get a rate of file transfer that is more acceptable than the transfer speed of Active Sync (slow death).
Being able to access the storage card directly off the PPC via a PC would be great and save the hassle of having to pysically take the card out, as outlined above.
Hope this idea comes to life.
WB
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Take a look over here!
With this tool you can use your PPC as a cardreader.
Thanks -- I'm already using WM5Storage, but for various reasons it doesn't fit exactly what I'm looking for. Furthermore, it sometimes hangs the PDA and I have to soft-reset it, so until it becomes more stable, I wouldn't rely on that method.
i hate the fact that i have to install activesync on each pc to be able to see it the device on explorer to transfer files.
why is it that windows can't reconize the device as a mass storage device without installing activestink?
when i was on nextel i was able to switch the phone to "mass storage" rather than "sync" and it would show up as a drive on windows explorer by just plugging it in via usb.
i carry a lot of files on my phone which i use for work and it's a hassle to remove the storage card all the time.. i rather not deal with bluetooth and i also don't want to carry a separate mass storage device.
is it a driver issue or is this another evil MS design in which a wm phone only show in explorer if activesync is installed?
WM5torage - free, but doesn't work on all phones
CardExport - commercial, but wider device support
I'm not sure about this. I just change the USB Mode of my phone to Mass Storage Mode (Settings -> Connections -> USB To PC) and it acts as a card reader (only information from my memory card is available)/USB Drive. It works with a library computer which I believe does not have Active Sync.
I run WM6 on Atom Life.
bedoig said:
WM5torage - free, but doesn't work on all phones
CardExport - commercial, but wider device support
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I tried WMStorage on my phone (SMT5800, running WM6). It caused my phone to spontaneously perform a hard reset. Fortunately, I had a recent backup that I could restore from.
why did you try wm5torage as you have wm6 that support this feature.
Settings -> Connections -> USB and set USB device : USB disk
and mark the topic as SOLVED
adempozhari said:
why did you try wm5torage as you have wm6 that support this feature.
Settings -> Connections -> USB and set USB device : USB disk
and mark the topic as SOLVED
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Some manufacturers add the feature to their ROMs, but it is not native to WM6. For devices that don't have it built in, you can use either of the programs I linked to above. Don't be so quick to jump to conclusions.
bedoig said:
Some manufacturers add the feature to their ROMs, but it is not native to WM6.
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i am sorry i did not know ....