A close friend of mine got an Evo to put on Metro recently, and after he got the MetroFlash done to it, I went ahead and got the web, gps and MMS features working on it by flashing the MetroDroid rom over it. Once I got it done and confirmed working, another friend of mine and his sister who also have Evo's on Metro wanted me to do this to their phones, as well. I did so, but during the process, I realized that her phone was connected to and running on Sprint's 4G network. One of my cousins also has an Evo on Metro and I just confirmed with him that his 4G takes him to the Sprint one-day pass for $9.99 page just like the other Metro Evos do. I've dealt with 5 different Evo's that are on Metro, and this is the only one that has 4G working on it.
I did a ##3282# to compare the Wimax settings of her phone to the others, but there were no differences that stood out to me.
Does anyone know if there are any version of QPST or CDMA workshop out there that have the capability of reading/writing the WiMax parameters of these phones? I am sure there are setting that can be adjusted using a dedicated program that aren't available using EPST (##3282#), but I would need some help getting this done.
Does anyone have any ideas? Or is there already a fix out there for Evo users on Metro to be able to use 4G that I did not find when I searched? If not, I'd love to get this out to the community. I'm sure this would also work for people who have their Evos on Cricket, too.
The wimax for Sprint is provided by a separate company, i think its called "clear wire". Anyway they provide wimax to lots of places. You get a contract with them and use the EVO to pick up the signal. You don't need Sprint.....
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The wimax for Sprint is provided by a separate company, i think its called "clear wire". Anyway they provide wimax to lots of places. You get a contract with them and use the EVO to pick up the signal. You don't need Sprint.....
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Thanks for your insight, but I am aware of the fact that Sprint's 4G signal comes from Clear and that you can get a contract with Clear if you were inclined to do so. However, that is not the case here. This phone is fully flashed to Metro and still says "Connected to Sprint" when you turn on 4G and works at 4G speeds. She does not have a contract with Clear, yet it works. Somehow, the way her phone is set up, it runs on Metro's network with 4G off and Sprint's 4G network when the antenna is on.
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Thanks for your insight, but I am aware of the fact that Sprint's 4G signal comes from Clear and that you can get a contract with Clear if you were inclined to do so. However, that is not the case here. This phone is fully flashed to Metro and still says "Connected to Sprint" when you turn on 4G and works at 4G speeds. She does not have a contract with Clear, yet it works. Somehow, the way her phone is set up, it runs on Metro's network with 4G off and Sprint's 4G network when the antenna is on.
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No, it is always connected to Metro, the only thing that runs on sprint is the 4G, the $10 pass is also technically from sprint, this is because the wimax mac address is assigned to sprint. This will happen on any Evo, as long as you don't corrupt the RSA Keys. No you don't need QPST/QXDM to rewrite the MAC Address, it can be done thru adb, but with the evo it has an additional level of security of the RSA Keys, so it wouldn't help.
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No, it is always connected to Metro, the only thing that runs on sprint is the 4G, the $10 pass is also technically from sprint, this is because the wimax mac address is assigned to sprint. This will happen on any Evo, as long as you don't corrupt the RSA Keys. No you don't need QPST/QXDM to rewrite the MAC Address, it can be done thru adb, but with the evo it has an additional level of security of the RSA Keys, so it wouldn't help.
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I understand that it always runs on Metro and that the 4G is on Sprint. I meant that it switches back to Metro's coverage if there is no WiMax signal or if you turn off the 4G antenna. I also know about the RSA keys and about MAC addresses. However, I do have access to a phone flashed to Metro and it connects to Sprint's/Clear's 4G all the time. If one phone can do it, then any phone can do it; which is the entire point of this thread. What I need help with is figuring out why that one phone does connect AND run on 4G.
Again: I have no use for this personally, as I am on Sprint. I only want to know how it works so I can share it with everyone.
That sounds like an error on sprints side of things. Like that device is unknowingly accessing the network, or it's permission was never revoked.
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I know metro PC's has 4g coverage in certain markets. I am pretty sure she is getting 4g provitioned through metro. Also when flashing metro it always does not change the sprint sign on top. Even though it is running on metro. I think one way to find it is to ask her how much she pay a month. Because metro pcs plan with 4g is 10 dollars more.
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That sounds like an error on sprints side of things. Like that device is unknowingly accessing the network, or it's permission was never revoked.
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That's a possibility, as I found out after making this thread that her phone was brand new in the box and activated on Sprint, but it was never used on Sprint at the time it was flashed over to Metro. All the other phones were used on Sprint and later disconnected from Sprint at one time or another and for one reason or another.
Is it possible to re-write the WiMax MAC address on the phone? If so, then I could back-up her WiMax settings using Amon and try flashing the RSA keys from her phone onto another phone after the MAC address has been changed to match hers. It's just a theory......I don't know. I'm willing to hear out any other ideas you guys may have.
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I know metro PC's has 4g coverage in certain markets. I am pretty sure she is getting 4g provitioned through metro. Also when flashing metro it always does not change the sprint sign on top. Even though it is running on metro. I think one way to find it is to ask her how much she pay a month. Because metro pcs plan with 4g is 10 dollars more.
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That is definitely not the case. Metro's 4G network is not compatible with Sprint and will not work on the Evo. Sprint is the only carrier that uses WiMax for 4G, and the only way she should be able to connect to 4G is if she was paying Clear for their service.....which she is not. Her plan is the basic $40 a month for talk & text.....nothing more.
Using Rom Manager should make a FULL back up....including ALL wimax setting.
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Using Rom Manager should make a FULL back up....including ALL wimax setting.
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Agreed. However, the RSA keys for your WiMax are married to the MAC address on your phone. MAC addresses are not backed up as they are particular to individual hardware. Therefore, in order to try this I would first need to re-write the MAC address on whatever phone I'm flashing the WiMax back up onto to match the MAC address of the phone from which the WiMax back up came from.
Even then, it's a theory and it may not work.
Oh sorry I didn't knew that. I stand corrected. Also if you don't mind can you tell what sort of 3g speed you get with metro pcs.
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Oh sorry I didn't knew that. I stand corrected. Also if you don't mind can you tell what sort of 3g speed you get with metro pcs.
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No need to apologize.....input is appreciated and necessary to figure something out.
3G speeds? None. lol More like 1x speeds. Also, my Evo is on Sprint, so I wouldn't be able to tell you exactly what the download speeds are. I can tell you that it makes Sprint's super slow data speeds seem faster than lightning. lol
Next time I'm with any of the people who have a Metro Evo (which is quite often), I'll try to remember to download and run SpeedTest just to see what it does.
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So I got my EPIC and freakin love it, such an awesome upgrade from my crappy hero. My question though is that I know on the hero you could type in ##PRL# and put in your MSL code and you could force the phone to use a verizon PRL. This is really handy because at my work i get HORRIBLE 3G reception and much better with verizon so i usually switched to a verizon PRL whenever i was at work. I noticed that the PRL code does not work on the EPIC though, anyway to do that hack?
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So I got my EPIC and freakin love it, such an awesome upgrade from my crappy hero. My question though is that I know on the hero you could type in ##PRL# and put in your MSL code and you could force the phone to use a verizon PRL. This is really handy because at my work i get HORRIBLE 3G reception and much better with verizon so i usually switched to a verizon PRL whenever i was at work. I noticed that the PRL code does not work on the EPIC though, anyway to do that hack?
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I would like to know the code for this as well. Although I want it because the latest prl (60670) gives me 1x and I would like to downgrade (60664) to get 3g access again. Thanks to anyone that can help.
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yea same here, i tried the ##775# from the evo guide and it's obviously not working, and neither was the ##778#, so if anyone finds a code that works, please let us know.
I am sure this is possible, the question is when will it be done? Hopefully sooner than later.
Still waiting, I'm an xray tech and work in a hospital so that means lead walls Sprint service SUCKS pretty much everywhere in the hospital, however there is a verizon tower on the hospital so all my coworkers who have verizon get 3g literally everywhere, and when i had my hero it was soooo nice being able to switch PRL's and also have service, now with the epic i'm hurting BAD.
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Perhaps this is gonna sound dumb, but I don't think you're looking to install the Verizon PRL, which contains the preferred roaming for Verizon users (ie, Verizon users don't roam on Verizon), but are simply looking to force roaming onto Verizon?
There's Roam Control in the market which forces roaming. Using it now. Seems to work.
he means is theres a prl you can load to exclusively use verizon but it is roaming however you get full 3g speeds not just 1x with normal roaming
So roaming, even though it says 3g, is not as fast as it can be? Interesting.
normal prls and roaming actual roaming (showing the triangle) is limited to 1x speeds do not know why it still says 3g while using the hacked prl like 00001 will give u verizon towers and signal and 3g speeds with no triangle so to the phone you are not roaming (set it to sprint only and youll see) i use to do this with the hero but sprint caught on and starting showing data roaming
I use this hack on my evo constantly. My wife just got epic and after much research, using qpst or similar program is the current alternative. There's no native program (like epst) that interfaces with the dialer on the epic, hence no ##775#. You need the msl and put the phone into modem mode ##8778# for qpst to recognize programming.
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too much hassle in that case
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I use this hack on my evo constantly. My wife just got epic and after much research, using qpst or similar program is the current alternative. There's no native program (like epst) that interfaces with the dialer on the epic, hence no ##775#. You need the msl and put the phone into modem mode ##8778# for qpst to recognize programming.
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Can you go into a little bit more detail about using the MSL and ##8778#? Also, is this a permanent solution?
Get a copy of qpst programming software. I'm pretty sure its considered warez here so i can't distribute it. A Google search will get to it.
I think the more appropriate term would be persistent, rather than permanent. It can be changed, just go to update prl on the handset's android menu. Also don't use verizon prl's use alltel. You can get evdo service wo roaming in most cases.
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This sounds very promising. Ill be trying this after work.
I tried that ##775# thing and it asked for a password. What is it? This is new to me and id like to try to see how it works
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I tried that ##775# thing and it asked for a password. What is it? This is new to me and id like to try to see how it works
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thats ur msl
A_flying_fox, that's a menu u can get into by using an msl which you can get from sprint and be able to access a menu where too can load different prl files into the phone to use other carriers towers if you have issues with your connection in different spots.
Also thinking out loud, would we be able to manually place the desired prl file where the current sprint prl is on the epic and just swap it out manually through root explorer or some other program.. Can anyone test this?
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Just wondering if the Epic can be used on MetroPCS like the Evo can. I recently sold my Captivate for an Evo, and I hate to say it, but I think I liked the Captivate more. Better screen and better processor is hard to downgrade from
If it's possible to flash the Epic to Metro, I would pick it up in a second.
I haven't found any search results on Google or here, so I figured there was no harm in asking.
Thanks in advance for any help or answers you might have.
From what I've read, slim to none. At least, if you plan to use the internet for anything besides web browsing with the stock browser (ie, forget anything that accesses the internet directly within an app).
The problems:
1. MetroPCS uses proxies for everything.
2. Android proxy support sucks. No, wait... that's not strong enough. Android proxy support sucks monkey balls. In theory, you might be able to build your own kernel that includes iptables support and use iptables with some handwritten helper apps to deal with them... but you'll basically be trailblazing virgin territory, and mostly on your own. Your phone is unlikely to ever work properly. Android's crude proxy support only (kind of) works with the built-in browser. This isn't kiddie stuff. This isn't even "L33t" stuff. If you're a true Linux God who works for Metro, chills with Linus once or twice a year, and has access to Metro's internal documentation (or possibly the guy who created Cyanogen, with a close friend who works for Metro), you MIGHT get it to work... eventually. Nobody less is likely to ever get an Epic to work properly on Metro.
3. Android depends on Sprint for things like network-based location service. Guess what isn't going to work on MetroPCS?
4. Did I mention that Metro is 1xRTT, and the one place where they have 4G (Las Vegas) uses LTE, which isn't compatible with the Epic?
Really, if you add up what it would cost to buy an unsubsidized Epic and 24 months of service with MetroPCS, and compare it to the cost of buying an Epic with a 24 month Sprint contract and 24 months of Sprint, it's insane to even contemplate trying to use the Epic with MetroPCS. The only reason to ever use a Sprint Android phone on Metro is if you have an old one that you'd just chuck into a drawer, and would rather give it to a needy friend or family member with MetroPCS. Buying Sprint's most expensive phone at full retail to use on Metro would be insane.
(By the way, I know this because I *was* going to give my old Hero to a needy friend with Metro).
If the evo can gain access then most likely the epic can. I'm just making this broad assumptions considering the run the same operating system with mostly all the same functions.
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i heared of many people that were able to get the internet to work on the epic but i don't know exactly how
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i heared of many people that were able to get the internet to work on the epic but i don't know exactly how
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Lol you don't know how they got the internet to work, and you're using an internet based app... I'm guessing you're joking...
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anybody know how to get the mms working?
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Lol you don't know how they got the internet to work, and you're using an internet based app... I'm guessing you're joking...
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On metropcs not on sprint... Read before you post please.
is the mms working?
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is the mms working?
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Maybe you can use the Epic on Boost Mobile and what are the limitations with Boost Mobile besides 4G?
From what I remember when was with Metro (had a Touch Pro), Howard Forums are where a lot of their modding community hangs out. At least that was where all the work/discussion seemed to be going on back then. A simply google search should show the way.
The keys are internet & MMS. Internet tends to be the first thing to get unlocked, but without that MMS is hopeless. Even then MMS isn't always possible, depends a lot on the phone. In the past HTC phones were very easy to make fully function, with Samsung & LG phones being rather difficult. Also keep in mind that, as much as Metro used it as a marketing ploy, they really don't like the flashed phones ideas. They've already nearly disabled all flashed phones once by changing the passwords needed to access the web proxies.
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Maybe you can use the Epic on Boost Mobile and what are the limitations with Boost Mobile besides 4G?
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native sprint coverage only, no roaming.
for some this may be good, for others it may be a dealbreaker.
to make mms work, you need to simply alter the mmsc URL in the ##DATA# > MSL menu and change it from Sprint's to boost's
changing the MMS url is easy for boost..same w/ making internet work... Samsung phones are CAKE to put on boost FWIW
epic 4g will only run 3g on metropcs
i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
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i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
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Uhhh...no. The Epic has no LTE capability. Only WiMax chipset.
The epic doesn't have an lte radio, that's why it doesn't work.
If you got 3g working and mms, then its practically runnin as well as it could be on metro
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i have my epic 4g running on metropcs at 3g speed but i realy want to run at 4g lte speed i had my friend flash this phone for me but he said the metro 4g is a waste of time as it is not good i think there is no flash available yet for the 4glte
i am trying to find out i think the main problem is there is no routing table for metro pcs 4g lte any how if anyone knows how to modify the flash to get the 4g lte running please let me know thanks in advance i will copy my rom an post it later here if anyone wants it i will of course have to edit my log in and stuff but i am hopeing someone here already has figured out the solution
thanks again
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You posted that on two different threads.
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This. ^ Metro does have 4G but it is LTE, unless the Wimax driver gets a software upgrade in the future, no Metro 4G currently possible. Though you can still pay for Sprint 4G service if you turn on the 4G radio and pay for a 24 hour pass for like 15 bucks.
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Even if you could get all the 3G services working properly, you could never use it as a 4G phone on MetroPCS. Epic is WiMax, Metro is LTE.
Trust me, you want the 4G. Now this is my opinion only so take it for what it is worth. From what I have seen of the existing Metro 3G network it sucks plain and simple, not just for data, but voice services as well. I have tested out the 4G network a bit in South Florida though and am duly impressed. Speed was very good, and even though I don't believe 4G is used for voice services yet, the phone I saw still had much better call performance (most notably actually receiving incoming calls).
I'm more than likely posting this in the wrong section but it regards to an EVO so I apologize in advance....
Would it be possible to flash a Sprint EVO onto verizons network I want the EVO I looked into the thunderbolt and I think its nothing but garbage just my opinion, I had it for 10 days and it was so bad I went and returned it and went back to my incredible since I don't have 4g in North Dakota it would be an issue I got my MSL code from Verizon. I've seen the EVO on boost and pageplus unfortunately I only have IDEN coverage for boost no cdma or I would just go that route. So would this be possible??? I know there are sites claiming they have the files that will make it work but I'd rather not pay for something that might not work. I know what your thinking why not just switch to Sprint well we don't have coverage here. So my choices are Verizon, AT&T, & Nextel. Nextel is out of the question for the fact I believe its still completely IDEN which means not smartphones except for a blackberry and there is no way I will switch to a blackberry I had a hard time switching from winmo 6.5 to android.
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I'm more than likely posting this in the wrong section but it regards to an EVO so I apologize in advance....
Would it be possible to flash a Sprint EVO onto verizons network I want the EVO I looked into the thunderbolt and I think its nothing but garbage just my opinion, I had it for 10 days and it was so bad I went and returned it and went back to my incredible since I don't have 4g in North Dakota it would be an issue I got my MSL code from Verizon. I've seen the EVO on boost and pageplus unfortunately I only have IDEN coverage for boost no cdma or I would just go that route. So would this be possible??? I know there are sites claiming they have the files that will make it work but I'd rather not pay for something that might not work. I know what your thinking why not just switch to Sprint well we don't have coverage here. So my choices are Verizon, AT&T, & Nextel. Nextel is out of the question for the fact I believe its still completely IDEN which means not smartphones except for a blackberry and there is no way I will switch to a blackberry I had a hard time switching from winmo 6.5 to android.
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Not legally due to esn locks. Sorry.
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Not legally due to esn locks. Sorry.
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Yuppers... Frowney face indeed
Ugh... That's what I came across in my six hours of searching, but didn't they pass a law in 2006 that made it legal to switch carriers and flash it, since its your device you paid for it you should be able to do with it as you please within reason of course, also would it make a difference if the esn/meid is clean?
I mentioned pageplus in my op its a prepaid company owned by (Verizon) the evil V as I call it lol I know they got it boost which is as we all know is a prepaid company of Sprint which is seeming more and more like the best of the "big 4" soon to be the "big 3"
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Ugh... That's what I came across in my six hours of searching, but didn't they pass a law in 2006 that made it legal to switch carriers and flash it, since its your device you paid for it you should be able to do with it as you please within reason of course, also would it make a difference if the esn/meid is clean?
I mentioned pageplus in my op its a prepaid company owned by (Verizon) the evil V as I call it lol I know they got it boost which is as we all know is a prepaid company of Sprint which is seeming more and more like the best of the "big 4" soon to be the "big 3"
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It is legal to do so, but the carrier has to approve the device and one big thing that won't be approved is the Sprint logo on the front of the device. Also I could be wrong, but for basic network coverage not counting Wimax since Verizon doesn't use Wimax, I believe Sprint and Verizon use different frequencies but I could be wrong.
There was a time when Sprint announced that they will activate any Verizon phone on their network. I can't remember if Verizon sued them, or if Sprint backed out. It was a very huge deal.
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It IS possible. Very much so. I'm not sure if i can speak on this, but if u do your research u should find the info u need. Done by yours truely
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It is legal to do so, but the carrier has to approve the device and one big thing that won't be approved is the Sprint logo on the front of the device. Also I could be wrong, but for basic network coverage not counting Wimax since Verizon doesn't use Wimax, I believe Sprint and Verizon use different frequencies but I could be wrong.
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Yep, Verizon uses 700 mhz and Sprint uses 2.5 I believe.
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Yep, Verizon uses 700 mhz and Sprint uses 2.5 I believe.
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That's for 4g. I believe.
Gimme a couple a days to come up with a new sig that is cool.
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Yep, Verizon uses 700 mhz and Sprint uses 2.5 I believe.
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that's for their "4G", not the CDMA 1x/EvDO spectrum
Ah, that's true, I totally blanked on the fact that he doesn't have 4g coverage anyway and that issue isn't on the table
Thanks for all the input guys, maybe I can find a friend of mine that happens to have an EVO they would be willing to let me borrow to try this out on, and update prl and everything else and see if I can get to VZW ota programming prompt and if I can get that far, I should be close to in the clear see if I goes through completely or somehow rewrite the esn/meid's which probably isn't legal but I'm sure can be done lol, and browsing around early this morning I found out I can get page plus coverage haha but I refuse to give up my unlimited data, I know there is a way to flash it to them though.. but thank you again for all the input
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It's possible. I'm on Verizon PRL right now as we speak. I dial *2 and I get Verizon customer service
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It's possible. I'm on Verizon PRL right now as we speak. I dial *2 and I get Verizon customer service
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Yeah but that's data roaming, little different.
It's possible just a few things you need:
1) Verizon has to approve it for their network
2) You would need your number AND your MIN as well as your cellular email address: it would be something like your10digit [email protected] verizon has for .com
3)Your MSL so you can program the phone for verizon (if you're rooted, MSL Reader from the Market will get that for you)
4)Verizon PRL
My evo is programed for cricket. AND the Evo can be programmed for boost. I went with cricket because there is no grey area there. Just program my phone for cricket, call them up and have them add my Evo's ESN.
Cricket was more than willing to give me the information I needed (MIN is the only thing I needed from them) and I got someone (who i guess works for cricket, one of those cricket forums) to add my ESN to my account. (you don't even have to change the radios, just change the PRL)
I look at it like this, Verizon takes a loss on every phone sold. Well every postpaid carrier does. So I would think they would jump at the chance for you to save them some money while spending money with them in the process.
How would I get them to accept the esn and accept the EVO for their service? I'm on a prepaid account now so I would be paying retail anyway...
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How would I get them to accept the esn and accept the EVO for their service? I'm on a prepaid account now so I would be paying retail anyway...
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They won't.
Maybe tell them its their ****ty thunderbolt until they push it through????
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Maybe tell them its their ****ty thunderbolt until they push it through????
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The DEC number clearly identifies what phone it is.
Damn I just can't win can I???
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Just looking for someone to point me in the right direction... I know it can be done but google searches only seem to return ads for people selling already flashed phones. Little help would be greatly appreciated!
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Just looking for someone to point me in the right direction... I know it can be done but google searches only seem to return ads for people selling already flashed phones. Little help would be greatly appreciated!
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Google how to do it with the Epic 4G...thats how I go mine on Boost. There is a youtube video and a section here on XDA in the Epic android development section on how to get data working on the Epic on boost mobile. It works for the NS4G..trust me..
as mentioned above.. its the exact same method as epic. tho the code to put the phone in diag mode is different. *#*#DIAG#*#*
now i just wish we could edit wimax settings. :/
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as mentioned above.. its the exact same method as epic. tho the code to put the phone in diag mode is different. *#*#DIAG#*#*
now i just wish we could edit wimax settings. :/
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Yea the DIAG is different...I have heard some people say they get 4G..how is that possible?
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Yea the DIAG is different...I have heard some people say they get 4G..how is that possible?
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If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.
LancerEVA06 said:
If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.
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Oh really? I still have my Sprint account but the NS4G isnt active right now on the account. Where I live we will not see 4G for who knows how long so thats why I went to boost on it.
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If it was once activated and that line it was activated on is still active, the RSA keys are still valid. Until it's activated on a different account and someone either cancels service or doesn't pay their bill.
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there are no RSA keys in the nexus s. thats htc stuff. its the mac address that gets put into the system. and the ppl getting 4g via other means dont have it activated on sprint.. theyve edited the mac address to one that is valid. HOW they edited the mac is my question.
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i will agree partly with what lancerEVA has stated.. some phones have previously been activated and kinda got lost in the system for now. but i still stick with my original message... there are people that are editing the mac address manually.
on the epic this was possible using the wimax debug menus. these menus have been removed on the nexus.
Why would anyone want to use a Nexus S 4G phone on Boost? Boost Mobile consists entirely of iDENT which is totally incompatible with the Nexus S 4G. Boost phones that use CDMA just use the Sprint towers anyways so there would be no difference in coverage. Boost Mobile has never, ever had CDMA towers of their own. Also, iDENT is vastly inferior to CDMA in every way. iDENT is just TDMA with a few "enhancements" like AT&T's old network used to be.
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Why would anyone want to use a Nexus S 4G phone on Boost? Boost Mobile consists entirely of iDENT which is totally incompatible with the Nexus S 4G. Boost phones that use CDMA just use the Sprint towers anyways so there would be no difference in coverage. Boost Mobile has never, ever had CDMA towers of their own. Also, iDENT is vastly inferior to CDMA in every way. iDENT is just TDMA with a few "enhancements" like AT&T's old network used to be.
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Yea your right...the coverage is the same....I get the same ho-hum 3G speeds with Boost as I do Sprint except I'm paying $45 for unlimited everything because of the shrinkage plan with Boost. What are you talking about Boost has never, ever had a tower of there own? Hey "techguy"...do you realize there owned by Sprint?...and by the way, when you say iDENT are you referring to iDEN? They have CDMA and iDEN networks and the Nexus will run off of the CDMA network like on Sprint because it is Sprint...get it?
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Yea your right...the coverage is the same....I get the same ho-hum 3G speeds with Boost as I do Sprint except I'm paying $45 for unlimited everything because of the shrinkage plan with Boost. What are you talking about Boost has never, ever had a tower of there own? Hey "techguy"...do you realize there owned by Sprint?...and by the way, when you say iDENT are you referring to iDEN? They have CDMA and iDEN networks and the Nexus will run off of the CDMA network like on Sprint because it is Sprint...get it?
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exactly.. people use sprint phones on boost for the best of both worlds. virgin is also a great candidate.. the $25 plan is pretty nice. tho i did just read that virgin will be getting rid of unlimited data.. well.. throttling after 2.5GB I believe. regardless.. 2 great options besides Sprint.. which is a great option compared to the other US carriers. win/win/win.
I will be getting my NS4G in the mail soon. I would love to do the flashing myself, but still looking for a guide. I have the guide on how to flash the EVO tho.
Is it safe to do software upgrades on the phone when I get it? And if I do any software upgrade after I get it flashed, will I lose my 3g or mms?
EDIT: Read the second post for more info/alternate hybrid PRL/how to revert back to stock! I know it's a read but it should answer any questions you have!
This is a video tutorial I threw together on how to change your PRL. There has been some confusion as to how to change the PRL/some people having trouble doing it. I hope this helps!
WARNING!! Use this at your own risk! People have had their accounts terminated by using too much roaming data.
That being said, I've used this have for a few months now, and I haven't had any trouble, but others have.
This hack loads a new PRL onto your phone. It tells your phone to use roaming data instead of Sprint. Normally you only roam on 1x, but this makes you roam on Verizon's 3g all the time. In my area it is over 10x as fast as sprint. In my house (with 2 bars) I get 1.3 mb/s average download, and when I have any more bars I get well over 2 mb/s consistently. This is compared to dial-up like speeds on Sprint...
Let's get started, shall we?
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Links for the downloads are below!
Watch it through and follow the directions. This will work on most ROMs, One I know it will work on is Codename Android 1.4. Here are the directions in writing:
1. Get your MSL number. Do this by getting an app from the market called terminal emulator. type in:
su (hit enter)
getprop ril.MSL (caps sensitive, then hit enter)
your MSL will be there. It will be a 6 digit code. Write this down for later!
You can also call Sprint and if you ask nicely they may give it to you!
2. Install drivers for your device on your computer. Look up a Youtube tutorial on how to do this. It was the hardest part for me.
3. Download the file "00001.prl" and QPST. Links to both are below. On your computer, extract the QPST file, open it up, and double click on setup. Go through the installation process.
4. Go back to the phone and open up the dialer. Enter this: *#*#8778#*#*
5. On the menue that pops up there will be a secton labeled "USB". Change it from PDA to "Modem"
6. Back to the computer. Hit the start menu and open up device manager. Double click on "ports" and you should see your devide there. at the end it will look like this: (COM#). Write down the number at the end of the COM.
7. Hit the start and search for QPST and open it. At the bottom corner click on new device, and when it asks for the port enter COM# (using the number you found in the last step), and hit ok.
8. Now go to "start clients" and hit "SERVICE PROGRAMMING". It will ask what port you will be modifying, just click your device and hit ok.
9. there will be these tabs with CDMA, CDMA-2, ESN, etc. Click on the one that said "Roam". In the lower box hit browse, and find the 00001.prl file. hit ok.
10. Finally, hit "write to phone". The phone should reboot, and you're done!
11. I forgot to add this in the video. Once it boots up, go back to the dialer and enter the *#*#8778#*#* code again. Change it back from modem to PDA and you are done!
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Here are the files:
00001.prl: http://www.box.com/s/esb2ot5z8avjymqspxec
QPST: http://www.x-drivers.com/catalog/flash/mobile_phones/companies/qualcomm/models/qpst/12051.html
Post your results! How are your speeds before and after? Use the speedtest.net app to test. And don't forget to hit the thanks button!
So due to the rumors circling, I decided to clear them up here.
Read this before posting!
These are the drivers I use with my Nexus s 4g:
http://nexusshacks.com/nexus-s-hacks/how-to-install-nexus-s-windows-usb-drivers/
The PRL I included in the first post will make your phone work on VERIZON! It shows up on your plan as roaming data. If you use the 00001 prl then you DO NOT have to make your phone force roam or anything of the sort. It just works on Verizon, and your phone will NOT show that it is roaming, yet it is. Got it?
When you flash a new ROM, the PRL isn't touched. So you don't have to redo this if you flash a new ROM. Also, if your ROM doesn't do anything with the dialer code, then make a nandroid of it, flash a new ROM (I know for a fact that CM9 V3 and codename android 1.4 work), do the hack, then restore your nandroid. It's a little round-about, but it works!
How to use BOTH networks:
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Now you can use a hybrid PRL. These have you on Sprint and they allow you to use the Verizon 3g if you force roam. I used this on my EVO 4g, but I haven't had great luck with it on my Nexus s 4g. Others have. Try it out if you want, here is a hybrid PRL (11114):
http://www.box.com/s/yrml7pzfgjc1od8hbp2j
You apply it the same way as the 00001 PRL.
Once it is installed, you will still be on Sprint's network. If you want to make your phone work on Verizon, then you have to make your phone force roam. You can do that with this app: roamctrl.com
Now you can switch between using Sprint and Verizon 3g!
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Reverting back to stock
If you want to go back to the stock PRL, you have 2 choices. Both of which are pretty easy.
The first would be to go an official Sprint ROM, go to settings>software upgrade>update PRL or settings>about phone>update PRL.
If you are on a ROM where you can't do that, then you can just put the stock PRL on your phone using the same method that you used to put a custom one on.
As of this post, this is the latest sprint PRL:
http://www.box.com/s/fc67ca1qfx7nymqnfozy
Download it and use QPST to put it on your phone. Easy as pie
Finally some info on Roaming on Sprint:
Now your plan includes "unlimited roaming data". Sprint, however, says in the fine print that if you go over 300mb you can get into trouble. I have used this hack for 4 months using 1-1.5 gb of data. Never had a problem. I only know one guy first hand who has ever gotten kicked off their plan from this. So know it is a possibility, but unlikely. And they send you a warning letter before they kick you off. If you get the letter just revert back to the stock one!
If there is anything else I should add here let me know!
Interesting. Will this give me over charges for roaming then?
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Interesting. Will this give me over charges for roaming then?
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Roaming is unlimited on Sprint's unlimited data plan. So nope!
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So when they terminate your account do you still have to pay them or isthat it? This might be good for me. I might flash my ns4g to BoostMobile and I might try this.
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Be very careful with that 00001 prl. There are others like 11115 etc that won't get you in any trouble.
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So when they terminate your account do you still have to pay them or isthat it? This might be good for me. I might flash my ns4g to BoostMobile and I might try this.
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If they terminate your account you are not responsible for any ETFs or other fees.
I'm going to try it out
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Use my NS4G on Verizon's 3G network? Oh my... yes please.
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Be very careful with that 00001 prl. There are others like 11115 etc that won't get you in any trouble.
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I used to use that PRL on my EVO, but it isn't working on this phone. It was just using Sprint even when I force roamed.
I'll use the 00001. I've used it for 4 months and had 1-2 gigs of roaming data. No Trouble yet!
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wont this cause Sprint to cancel me as I will be roaming on over 300mb?
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I used to use that PRL on my EVO, but it isn't working on this phone. It was just using Sprint even when I force roamed.
I'll use the 00001. I've used it for 4 months and had 1-2 gigs of roaming data. No Trouble yet!
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I hope you never do(have trouble that is)! Did you use it (00001) on the Evo as well? If you did, did you notice any speed differences between that and 11115? And great video by the way! Especially for your first on youtube!
Someone confirm that this works?
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Someone confirm that this works?
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I can! haha I've done it on 2 different phones and many many ROMs.
treyweez11 said:
Someone confirm that this works?
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Confirmed. Absolutely on point!
Coycaine said:
I hope you never do(have trouble that is)! Did you use it (00001) on the Evo as well? If you did, did you notice any speed differences between that and 11115? And great video by the way! Especially for your first on youtube!
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Thanks! It is just my first video on this channel.
I did use the 00001.prl on the EVO. I ended up using the 11115 on my EVO as well. It worked ok on that phone, but I wasn't getting data as fast as the 00001. And I couldn't get the 11115 to work on my Nexus.
Warning!!! Do NOT do this hack constantly! I personally have a friends who did this on his Evo for about a month straight and Sprint sent him a letter and ended his contract with no fees. His service was terminated within 2 weeks of receiving the letter from Sprint.
Edit: yes, he had unlimited roaming on HIS plan as well. So there's little truth behind Sprint's claims.
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jayare313 said:
Warning!!! Do NOT do this hack constantly! I personally have a friends who did this on his Evo for about a month straight and Sprint sent him a letter and ended his contract with no fees. His service was terminated within 2 weeks of receiving the letter from Sprint.
Edit: yes, he had unlimited roaming on HIS plan as well. So there's little truth behind Sprint's claims.
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There are whole threads on this over in the EVO 4g forum. OF the many who use this hack only 3 or so have had this happen. And they weren't the heaviest users. If you get the letter then just undo the hack and you're fine!
jayare313 said:
Warning!!! Do NOT do this hack constantly! I personally have a friends who did this on his Evo for about a month straight and Sprint sent him a letter and ended his contract with no fees. His service was terminated within 2 weeks of receiving the letter from Sprint.
Edit: yes, he had unlimited roaming on HIS plan as well. So there's little truth behind Sprint's claims.
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Sounds like a win win to me! Use Verizon speeds while I'm under contract and then IF Sprint terminates my contract I'm free and clear to take my NS4G to boost or go get the (Insert latest new device) as a new customer with no ETF's???!!! YES PLEASE
On a side note, would this have any effect of 4G? I ask because I live in a no 4G area on Sprints network but Verizon has 4G in my area. Just curious if it would give me 4G as well. I have no idea how 4G networks work as I haven't ever used it.
PMDColeslaw said:
Sounds like a win win to me! Use Verizon speeds while I'm under contract and then IF Sprint terminates my contract I'm free and clear to take my NS4G to boost or go get the (Insert latest new device) as a new customer with no ETF's???!!! YES PLEASE
On a side note, would this have any effect of 4G? I ask because I live in a no 4G area on Sprints network but Verizon has 4G in my area. Just curious if it would give me 4G as well. I have no idea how 4G networks work as I haven't ever used it.
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A lot of people use the hack to get out of the contract. They use crazy amounts of data to get noticed. Funny thing is, most of them haven't gotten "the letter" yet. It seems almost random.
And this wouldn't give you Verizon 4g. Totally different radios.