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720P Playback horrible?

Hey guys,
So they boast about the 1080p playback on the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1, however I haven't had much luck with this. I tried putting on two different 720p video files on and both of them have sub-par playback.
One of them is an MP4 with h.264 and it plays okay on the default video (gallery) player but theres a bit of a stutter and doesn't play extremely well.
The other is an h.264 MKV and that doesn't even play audio in certain cases and the video doesn't play well at all under the default gallery application.
I tried three other media players - rock media player, Vplayer, and doubletwist and none of them play it any better. I find it sort of strange that it's having trouble handling these sorts of files. I can maybe understand the MKV file but the standard MP4 file is a little concerning

I find Vital Player performs better than the ones you have already mentioned. QQplayer is ok sometimes too and I've heard people talking about drobo player but I have not tried yet.

VitalPlayer played my mp4 a little better almost perfect with hardware decoding, however the mkv was still problematic :-/

Try:
MoboPlayer
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MoboPlayer Codec for ARMV7VFP3
It bring in Tegra 2 Support not yet optimized but still pretty good.
Also if you have rooted your tab take your CPU off interactive (Default and horrible) and put it on Performance or OnDemand.

50-3 said:
Try:
MoboPlayer
and
MoboPlayer Codec for ARMV7VFP3
It bring in Tegra 2 Support not yet optimized but still pretty good.
Also if you have rooted your tab take your CPU off interactive (Default and horrible) and put it on Performance or OnDemand.
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It's not a software flaw , it'tegra limitation to playback high profiles encoded files. Tegra allow hardware decoding of main profile Encode file only.

50-3 said:
Try:
MoboPlayer
and
MoboPlayer Codec for ARMV7VFP3
It bring in Tegra 2 Support not yet optimized but still pretty good.
Also if you have rooted your tab take your CPU off interactive (Default and horrible) and put it on Performance or OnDemand.
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Interesting, I haven't tried MoboPlayer yet but I will give it a go tonight. In regards to the cpu being on interactive. What?! Really? I was trying to find a reason to root and that might be one is to put it on OnDemand.
aefelix said:
It's not a software flaw , it'tegra limitation to playback high profiles encoded files. Tegra allow hardware decoding of main profile Encode file only.
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What exactly do you mean by this? I'm having trouble understanding your last statement.

kentoe said:
What exactly do you mean by this? I'm having trouble understanding your last statement.
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I think he's saying that altering your CPU probably wont make much of a difference since it's the lack of GPU hardware decoding for high profile encoded videos that's likely causing any kind of stuttering. In short, it's not your CPU's fault or Honeycomb's fault, it's your GPU's fault.

RickBaller said:
I think he's saying that altering your CPU probably wont make much of a difference since it's the lack of GPU hardware decoding for high profile encoded videos that's likely causing any kind of stuttering. In short, it's not your CPU's fault or Honeycomb's fault, it's your GPU's fault.
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Interesting, I find it odd though that when selecting hardware in certain players it does play better. But when selecting software in some players it plays better than other players hardware. It just seems like some sort of issue that isn't really making much sense.

Yeah, moboplayer wasn't any better either :-/

It is Tegra limitation and it is a problem for ALL Tegra 2 based tablets.
Go to any forum Xoom, Transformer, Adam Ink... i is general issue.
If one wants to play movies (and do other "super advanced stuff") one should have buy a previus generation tablet like Galaxy Tab 7" or Archos, etc.
Some of us still hope that retail GT 10.1 will come in with Exynos CPU instead of Tegra. If not it, than quite a lot of phones will be more powerfull than Tegra 2 tablet computers.
+ none of new tabs is divix certified like some of the old ones were :-(
I wonder how will TouchPad perform in that matter?
If GT 10.1 is indeed Tegra 2 based I am in trouble.
Watching movies (in bed) is quite important to me.
I will either wait for 10" HTC or Amazon tablet (gossip goes it will have Kal-El inside) or I'll just get iPad 2 (seems to be more capable in that regard than new Android tablets).

galtom said:
It is Tegra limitation and it is a problem for ALL Tegra 2 based tablets.
Go to any forum Xoom, Transformer, Adam Ink... i is general issue.
If one wants to play movies (and do other "super advanced stuff") one should have buy a previus generation tablet like Galaxy Tab 7" or Archos, etc.
Some of us still hope that retail GT 10.1 will come in with Exynos CPU instead of Tegra. If not it, than quite a lot of phones will be more powerfull than Tegra 2 tablet computers.
+ none of new tabs is divix certified like some of the old ones were :-(
I wonder how will TouchPad perform in that matter?
If GT 10.1 is indeed Tegra 2 based I am in trouble.
Watching movies (in bed) is quite important to me.
I will either wait for 10" HTC or Amazon tablet (gossip goes it will have Kal-El inside) or I'll just get iPad 2 (seems to be more capable in that regard than new Android tablets).
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Is the ipad2 better at video playback?

If jailbroken - YES.
Its CPU (by Samsung) is more capable than Tegra 2 .

galtom said:
If jailbroken - YES.
Its CPU (by Samsung) is more capable than Tegra 2 .
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I have the iPad2 and Asus Transformer which uses the Tegra 2. My iPad 2 is not jailbroken and it surpasses the Asus Transformer for video playback. My iPad2 plays High Profile 720p MP4 with the stock player, and with AVPlayerHD from the App Store, I can play High Profile 720p MKV and it will support embedded subtitles along with xvid/divx avi formats.
The Transformer chokes on anything High Profile. Sure you can use Moboplayer or Vital Player as they support subtitles, but they only support external subtitles and they still can't play High Profile.
Don't get me wrong here; I'm not an Apple fanboy at all. Just clearing up that iPad2 is the better video player period and does not need to be jailbroken to do so.

songmeesay said:
I have the iPad2 and Asus Transformer which uses the Tegra 2. My iPad 2 is not jailbroken and it surpasses the Asus Transformer for video playback. My iPad2 plays High Profile 720p MP4 with the stock player, and with AVPlayerHD from the App Store, I can play High Profile 720p MKV and it will support embedded along subtitles along with xvid/divx avi formats.
The Transformer chokes on anything High Profile. Sure you can use Moboplayer or Vital Player as they support subtitles, but they only support external subtitles and they still can't play High Profile.
Don't get me wrong here; I'm not an Apple fanboy at all. Just clearing up that iPad2 is the better video player period and does not need to be jailbroken to do so.
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How is the Ipad with youtube playback? It really bothers me that the tegra 2 tablets can't play videos in "hq" mode without horrible stuttering. I'm hoping 3.1 fixes this.

Ah, YouTube is a different story. The YouTube videos that the iPad can play are excellent... if they aren't Flash! However, there are browsers like Skyfire in the app market that plays flash but I haven't tried it yet. From reading reviews, 3.1 does seem to address those issues. All in all for YouTube, the Asus has the upperhand especially if you watch YouTube on the stock browser.

songmeesay said:
Ah, YouTube is a different story. The YouTube videos that the iPad can play are excellent... if they aren't Flash! However, there are browsers like Skyfire in the app market that plays flash but I haven't tried it yet. From reading reviews, 3.1 does seem to address those issues. All in all for YouTube, the Asus has the upperhand especially if you watch YouTube on the stock browser.
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I tried watching youtube videos on the transformer with the youtube application and it was pretty bad. That was a while ago, is it better now?
Sorry for the derail.

I'm having no problems with the couple videos I'm watching now through the YouTube app. The only problem I get with YouTube is, of course, the HD playback in the browser but again I believe the Xoom owners have reported 3.1 fixes that.

Video playback capabilities of these Tegra Honeycomb tablets is a bit frustrating! My SGSII plays video and handles in-browser flash better (as in much better). I guess I will be connecting my phone to my television when I want to watch 1080p video, rather than my tablet...

songmeesay said:
From reading reviews, 3.1 does seem to address those issues.
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3.1 indeed helped with streaming performance (like YT) but mkv High Profile is still "no go"
NZtechfreak said:
Video playback capabilities of these Tegra Honeycomb tablets is a bit frustrating! My SGSII plays video and handles in-browser flash better (as in much better). I guess I will be connecting my phone to my television when I want to watch 1080p video, rather than my tablet...
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True... but in that case... why would I get a tablet?
Or (that will be the case for a lot of ppl.) if you can only afford one of those?
New (fully capable) smartphone or tablet (that can only do some of the thing phone can but has bigger screen). Which one?
Not, to mention... what is the point in creating device, a tablet COMPUTER that is beaten in functionality and performance by phone.
HEY!! Samsung, instead crappy 10.1v (or 10.1 if it is with Tegra) make Samsung Galaxy S II in XL size - that is all most of us needs right now (+ Honeycomb) - and we're sorted .

galtom said:
HEY!! Samsung, instead crappy 10.1v (or 10.1 if it is with Tegra) make Samsung Galaxy S II in XL size - that is all most of us needs right now (+ Honeycomb) - and we're sorted .
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Agreed, but to be honest with all these reviews of the I/O versions and those boasting Tegra2, it seems the new official 10.1 will have it. I'm really back and forth about returning my Transformer to try a new 10.1 out. I mean I only plan to keep either one until the Tegra3 Kal-el tablets start rolling in (Asus and Amazon rumored to roll some out this year). Financially it'd be smarter to just stick with my Transformer, but I've always been about design and build and the Samsung sure looks like it has the Transformer beat. Trade off for build and form factor are the loss of the microSD expansion though, which means (according to the J&R pre-order pricing) I'd have to spend $599 for a 32GB Sammy vs. the $399 16GB Transformer+$35 16GB class 10 microSD card.

tips for playing back 720p mkv

I am having problems playing back 720p move on the device. They stutter with rock player and qqplayer. Any suggestions?

Transcode them to different profile - like mp4 or avi. Or still mkv but main or base profile (I suspect that your movies are in High Profile) that is not supported by Tegra 2. :-(
This problem showed up with release of Xoom and everyone with Tegra 2 tablet has the same problem. As all Honeycomb tablets on the market are essentially the same it is not possible to see if it would be OK on a different CPU/SOC. :-(

>Any suggestions?
Drag-drop.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102922

galtom said:
Transcode them to different profile - like mp4 or avi. Or still mkv but main or base profile (I suspect that your movies are in High Profile) that is not supported by Tegra 2. :-(
This problem showed up with release of Xoom and everyone with Tegra 2 tablet has the same problem. As all Honeycomb tablets on the market are essentially the same it is not possible to see if it would be OK on a different CPU/SOC. :-(
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That's dissapointing. My epic 4g can play 720p mkv straight withou conversion. Is this a problem that can be fixed in the future or will they always need conversion?

Vplayer, maybe? Try the 7 day Trial version first, though it's just about 5 usd. It seems to have more coded emmbedded too.

fhurricane said:
That's dissapointing. My epic 4g can play 720p mkv straight withou conversion. Is this a problem that can be fixed in the future or will they always need conversion?
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3.1 brought the update to be able to play certain high profile 720p movies in a mp4 container, which was a big step. I'm not sure how much further it'll get since it's a Tegra 2 limitation. This is why Boxee Box dropped the Tegra 2 chipset. We'll have to rely on the devs of market players to take advantage of the 3.1 release for high profile MKV support (not sure if any of the players are capable yet as I haven't been reading the Transformer or other tablet forums. There's at least a couple threads on 720p playback in each tablet forum). Hopefully they can also incorporate the lights out mode instead of having the whole home task bar on the bottom. These limitations are also another reason why a lot of us are very much looking forward to Kal-el.

songmeesay said:
3.1 brought the update to be able to play certain high profile 720p movies in a mp4 container, which was a big step. I'm not sure how much further it'll get since it's a Tegra 2 limitation. This is why Boxee Box dropped the Tegra 2 chipset. We'll have to rely on the devs of market players to take advantage of the 3.1 release for high profile MKV support (not sure if any of the players are capable yet as I haven't been reading the Transformer or other tablet forums. There's at least a couple threads on 720p playback in each tablet forum). Hopefully they can also incorporate the lights out mode instead of having the whole home task bar on the bottom. These limitations are also another reason why a lot of us are very much looking forward to Kal-el.
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Is there a official source for this limitation?

The limitation that every android Tegra 2 tablet owner is experiencing is official enough for me. When I said I'm not sure how much further it'll get, I was more talking along the lines of 1080p High Profile.

songmeesay said:
The limitation that every android Tegra 2 tablet owner is experiencing is official enough for me. When I said I'm not sure how much further it'll get, I was more talking along the lines of 1080p High Profile.
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I really don't think we'll ever see any 1080p high profile playback from Tegra 2 based devices.
I've watched many full length action movies in high profile 720p h264 on the XOOM under HC 3.1, and 720p playback is much improved, but still not perfect. The video will seem flawless for a while, and then when you come to a scene with a lot of heavy action, particularly where the camera pans across the scene, the video will sometimes fall totally to pieces. Slowdown, stuttering and skipped frames - a real mess. These occurrences are very brief and infrequent, but seriously annoying when they occur. For full length action films I've gone back to transcoding the video to baseline profile.
The Tegra 2 handles high profile 720p video only well enough for casual viewing in my opinion - TV shows, comedies that sort of thing.

Digital Man said:
I really don't think we'll ever see any 1080p high profile playback from Tegra 2 based devices.
I've watched many full length action movies in high profile 720p h264 on the XOOM under HC 3.1, and 720p playback is much improved, but still not perfect. The video will seem flawless for a while, and then when you come to a scene with a lot of heavy action, particularly where the camera pans across the scene, the video will sometimes fall totally to pieces. Slowdown, stuttering and skipped frames - a real mess. These occurrences are very brief and infrequent, but seriously annoying when they occur. For full length action films I've gone back to transcoding the video to baseline profile.
The Tegra 2 handles high profile 720p video only well enough for casual viewing in my opinion - TV shows, comedies that sort of thing.
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That input is greatly appreciated. It'll save me some time when I do my re-encodes.

e.mote said:
>Any suggestions?
Drag-drop.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102922
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I used this, still yielded an unplayable file.
edit: nvm, plays with stock player, but not rock player

OK......If Tegra 2 Is Underpowered?

OK,
I have just returned my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (16Gb) to the store after suffering the "Newtons Ring / Oil Spill" phenomenon, and after the store assistant told me that someone else had returned 2 with the same problem, and BOTH store display models have the same issues, I decided not to get a new one. So now I am in the market for a new tablet. (And to get rid of my Dock, Book cover and SD / USB Connection Kit, Dock - Used, Book Cover - Unopened and SD / USB Connection Kit - Unopened - but thats another story).
So I am thinking about moving away from Tegra 2 after having problems getting it to play High Profile HD video due to the underpowering of the Tegra 2 chipset.
I am considering the Archos G9, which has a Texas Instruments ARM dual-core CORTEX A9 OMAP 4 chip (1Ghz to 1.5Ghz), which Archos claim will play High Profile HD video.
Are there any tabs that you think I should consider?
I realise that this is a Galaxy Tab forum, but I have read some good advice from users of this forum section.
Thanks
Stewart

StuMcBill said:
OK,
I have just returned my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (16Gb) to the store after suffering the "Newtons Ring / Oil Spill" phenomenon, and after the store assistant told me that someone else had returned 2 with the same problem, and BOTH store display models have the same issues, I decided not to get a new one. So now I am in the market for a new tablet. (And to get rid of my Dock, Book cover and SD / USB Connection Kit, Dock - Used, Book Cover - Unopened and SD / USB Connection Kit - Unopened - but thats another story).
So I am thinking about moving away from Tegra 2 after having problems getting it to play High Profile HD video due to the underpowering of the Tegra 2 chipset.
I am considering the Archos G9, which has a Texas Instruments ARM dual-core CORTEX A9 OMAP 4 chip (1Ghz to 1.5Ghz), which Archos claim will play High Profile HD video.
Are there any tabs that you think I should consider?
I realise that this is a Galaxy Tab forum, but I have read some good advice from users of this forum section.
Thanks
Stewart
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Archos make great media players so their new ones will probably play x264 without a problem. But I've never liked their design or build quality.

Itaintrite said:
But I've never liked their design or build quality.
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^^^^^
This.
Add to it that they're big and heavy based on the published specs.
If you're not a big video (streaming and local) user the HTC Jetstream/Puccini is a great tablet. It'll probably be released in Europe this Fall.

If you want a good thin alternative to the Tab 10.1, the new OMAP-powered Toshiba AT200 looks like a good bet, if it releases in the near future.

I think you might need to wait for the next generation of tablets. The GT10 is as good as it gets right now. After the new year there will be several more options but as of now, there's nothing that will get you high profile video and build quality at the same time. A quick question about the newton rings: could you actually see them when the screen was turned on?

slack04 said:
I think you might need to wait for the next generation of tablets. The GT10 is as good as it gets right now. After the new year there will be several more options but as of now, there's nothing that will get you high profile video and build quality at the same time. A quick question about the newton rings: could you actually see them when the screen was turned on?
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Yeah i could see them, especially in dark scenes on movies etc.
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Croak said:
OMAP-powered Toshiba AT200
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slack04 said:
wait for the next generation of tablets.
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One of these two options.

Or you can get a Blackberry Playbook, I have one and it plays 1080p videos without a sweat, you can even multitask while the video is playing without a single frame being skipped!!! The HDMI output is the best of any tablet on the market, and the screen is top notch.
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The Playbook is using the same OMAP CPU as the aforementioned Toshiba AT200, except clocked at 1GHz as opposed to the 1.2GHz of the Toshiba.
So if it can rattle through 1080p videos, there's a good chance the Toshiba will be able to as well.
It's the GPU, the PowerVR SGX GPUs are something pretty special.

Nope, not underpowered, just a crap video player supplied with the stock rom. I thought it was true until I found dice player. With dice I have had no trouble playing any video so far. The 4 gb file size limit is more of an issue that finding a proper video player.
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No even with dice player, it can't play 1080p high profile video. Tegra 2 is so weak that it even stutters playing some YouTube videos.
bdejong11129 said:
Nope, not underpowered, just a crap video player supplied with the stock rom. I thought it was true until I found dice player. With dice I have had no trouble playing any video so far. The 4 gb file size limit is more of an issue that finding a proper video player.
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hbkmog said:
No even with dice player, it can't play 1080p high profile video. Tegra 2 is so weak that it even stutters playing some YouTube videos.
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Same here. Most of my videos are 1080p. I've tried a number of media players and none have been able to keep up.

Latoc said:
Or you can get a Blackberry Playbook, I have one and it plays 1080p videos without a sweat, you can even multitask while the video is playing without a single frame being skipped!!! The HDMI output is the best of any tablet on the market, and the screen is top notch.
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I really like the styling of the playbook, and if it ran android i would be all over it!
However, since it hasn't been selling as well as RIM had hoped, we might see some heavy discounts soon?
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Tegra2 only support H.264 [email protected] and no weighted prediction B-frames.
For me thats okay, no need to play higher resolution on the tab than 720p anyway. Only problem is having to recode high res videos.
And about the 4gig limit. You can copy larger files too, over wireless if you have the time. (which takes a ****load of time, is there any other way to copy larger files to the tab, and maybe even faster?)

slack04 said:
I think you might need to wait for the next generation of tablets. The GT10 is as good as it gets right now. After the new year there will be several more options but as of now, there's nothing that will get you high profile video and build quality at the same time. A quick question about the newton rings: could you actually see them when the screen was turned on?
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The HP Touchpad can do it if somebody writes a decent media player for it. I've tried remuxing 1080p h264 videos (to reencode the audio while keeping video intact) and it plays the videos very smoothly with stock player. Waiting patiently for Android to come so I can try DicePlayer and others with the TouchPad.

ShannonAUT said:
Tegra2 only support H.264 [email protected] and no weighted prediction B-frames.
For me thats okay, no need to play higher resolution on the tab than 720p anyway. Only problem is having to recode high res videos.
And about the 4gig limit. You can copy larger files too, over wireless if you have the time. (which takes a ****load of time, is there any other way to copy larger files to the tab, and maybe even faster?)
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Never understood the desire to play full 1080p monster video files on a tablet. I love watching full size on my huge plasma but on the tablet it is just a waste to play such a large file. I batch encoded some for playimg on the tablet for trip a while back with handbrake and all I had to do was limit three bit rate. The video looked perfect and with dice player it never stuttered.
Each to hire one I guess, but this is much better than watching on my phone and the form factor is perfect.
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bdejong11129 said:
Never understood the desire to play full 1080p monster video files on a tablet. I love watching full size on my huge plasma but on the tablet it is just a waste to play such a large file. I batch encoded some for playimg on the tablet for trip a while back with handbrake and all I had to do was limit three bit rate. The video looked perfect and with dice player it never stuttered.
Each to hire one I guess, but this is much better than watching on my phone and the form factor is perfect.
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It's just a matter of convenience. Would you prefer reencode all the videos if it could be avoided? And not everybody has a computer fast enough to do so quickly. On my intel E8400, a 2hour movie will take about half a day.

It's an extra step that should be unnecessary. It limits how you can use your tab since you just can't drag & drop videos on a whim not knowing if it'll play. Also it's not awaste if you're using it to feed an hdtv.

Were people expecting the first generation tablets to be blu ray players too? This is complaining just for the sake of complaining.
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I don't see the point playing 1080p video on tablet either. Speaking of convenient, I think it's more convenient just to download smaller 720p videos and not have to worry about file size and such.
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playing hd 1080p

Anyone got hd video playing smoothly with tab 10.1? This is frustrating because my friend can play hd video very smooth on his original tab 7" while I can't

Try using an app called 'dice player' from the marketplace.
There is a trial version available, to see whether your device is compatible. It's hardware accelerated, basically meaning that it should play without lag. I know this from experience as I had the same issue using my advent vega running vegacomb 3.2
If It's on YouTube or iplayer, you have to let it buffer - all you really can do
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on youtube or on videoplayer ?

Alex Charles said:
Try using an app called 'dice player' from the marketplace.
There is a trial version available, to see whether your device is compatible. It's hardware accelerated, basically meaning that it should play without lag. I know this from experience as I had the same issue using my advent vega running vegacomb 3.2
If It's on YouTube or iplayer, you have to let it buffer - all you really can do
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I got a few hardware accelerated player rockplayer and mx player.. still.. both failed to play 1080p videos smoothly..
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on video player of course. so how is your experience?

+1 for Dice Player.
Works on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G, it plays mkv's without any problems. I downloaded 1080p youtube windows in MP4 format and they play fine. You can download the 3 day trial + the Tegra 2 plugin and test it!!

Another +1 for diceplayer
I bit the bullet and purchased it... very happy with it so far. Rockplayer and the other well known media players very much so pale in comparison to DicePlayer for the galaxy tab 10.1. Not that I had issues with Rock Player on my old Epic, just that diceplayer plays very nicely with the tegra2.
I have been using it with UPNPlay and MediaTomb on my server in my room and it makes video playback very nice in my house. (except that my N router doesn't buffer the high def stuff well)
Copying to the device though, i have never had an issue with anything i have thrown at it.

sundazetoo said:
+1 for Dice Player.
Works on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G, it plays mkv's without any problems. I downloaded 1080p youtube windows in MP4 format and they play fine. You can download the 3 day trial + the Tegra 2 plugin and test it!!
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livedeht said:
Another +1 for diceplayer
I bit the bullet and purchased it... very happy with it so far. Rockplayer and the other well known media players very much so pale in comparison to DicePlayer for the galaxy tab 10.1. Not that I had issues with Rock Player on my old Epic, just that diceplayer plays very nicely with the tegra2.
I have been using it with UPNPlay and MediaTomb on my server in my room and it makes video playback very nice in my house. (except that my N router doesn't buffer the high def stuff well)
Copying to the device though, i have never had an issue with anything i have thrown at it.
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Unfortunately it is still no go for me. Downloaded Diceplayer Trial + codec and still give me choppy 1080p video playback (better than other player) so I'll hold my card for a while and waiting for other recommendation.
What make me really frustrated is my friend old spec tab 7" can play it with no problem whatsoever.. wtf is wrong with this so called dual core marketing bull****

You can always use Handbrake or something to convert it down to 720p, since it will look exactly the same on the tab. All of my 720p vids work great

first you are totally right my galaxy tab7 0n anndroid 2.33 plays 1080 videos much more smootherthan my other tab 10.1 , but remember the humming bird processor in the galaxy tab 7 had a very strong GPU compared to the nvidia tegra gpu so dont consider the galaxy tab 7 a low end device also the galaxy tab 10.1 had to scale for resolution (1280x800 ) while the galaxy tab 7 scales for only (1024 x600 )which is a bigger load on the galaxy tab 10.1 Gpu
second there were a similar problem in the motorola xoom forum and they reached a conclusion that the problem is in the honeycomb compitability with nvidia drivers in some videos extensions not all 1080 p videos lag but only some and may be fixed by a second update or by the release of icecream sandwitch so try to

sundazetoo said:
+1 for Dice Player.
Works on my Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G, it plays mkv's without any problems. I downloaded 1080p youtube windows in MP4 format and they play fine. You can download the 3 day trial + the Tegra 2 plugin and test it!!
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Hi! How do you get your MKVs onto the Tab? My Windows Explorer crashes everytime I try to upload an MKV file onto the Tab 10.1! It's so frustrating!
I've never been able to upload an MKV succesfully before!
Please help!
EDIT: I also bought DicePlayer from the market! This is an excellent app! If I remux 720p MKVs into MP4s and downsample AC3/DTS to 2channel stereo AAC files. The quality on the player is great! I can see a lag occasionally though! It's most definately a drivers issue!
I've never tried to play a 1080p MP4 though.
I've had some success playing 1080p VC1 video files though aka WMV (Windows Media Video) files on the native video player without any issues! The video is silky smooth!

can I just ask why you want to play 1080p video in the first place? the gtab 10.1's resolution is barely over 720p so you will see no quality difference when playing 1080p, if anything it will be worse as it wont play as smoothly.

twisted89 said:
can I just ask why you want to play 1080p video in the first place? the gtab 10.1's resolution is barely over 720p so you will see no quality difference when playing 1080p, if anything it will be worse as it wont play as smoothly.
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The usual answer to this question is because they have loads of 1080p videos already, and don't want to re-encode for the GT10.1.
Simple answer though is that the Tegra-2 SoC doesn't support 1080p in hardware for anything other than baseline profile, whereas the Hummingbird SoC in the GT7 supports baseline, main, and high profile (nothing to do with the screen size).
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Dave
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twisted89 said:
can I just ask why you want to play 1080p video in the first place? the gtab 10.1's resolution is barely over 720p so you will see no quality difference when playing 1080p, if anything it will be worse as it wont play as smoothly.
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The point is that it is easier to put movies directly on the device instead of converting it to 720
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foxmeister said:
The usual answer to this question is because they have loads of 1080p videos already, and don't want to re-encode for the GT10.1.
Simple answer though is that the Tegra-2 SoC doesn't support 1080p in hardware for anything other than baseline profile, whereas the Hummingbird SoC in the GT7 supports baseline, main, and high profile (nothing to do with the screen size).
Regards,
Dave
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Then this problem can't be fixed by only drivers modification ?
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Guess not since all Tegra 2 devices have the same problem with 1080p.

foxmeister said:
The usual answer to this question is because they have loads of 1080p videos already, and don't want to re-encode for the GT10.1.
Simple answer though is that the Tegra-2 SoC doesn't support 1080p in hardware for anything other than baseline profile, whereas the Hummingbird SoC in the GT7 supports baseline, main, and high profile (nothing to do with the screen size).
Regards,
Dave
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really??!....it is too bad news...

i can't play full HD on my tab 10.1
it is in .mp4 format and it just says video can't be played

komorka said:
Hi! How do you get your MKVs onto the Tab? My Windows Explorer crashes everytime I try to upload an MKV file onto the Tab 10.1! It's so frustrating!
I've never been able to upload an MKV succesfully before!
Please help!
EDIT: I also bought DicePlayer from the market! This is an excellent app! If I remux 720p MKVs into MP4s and downsample AC3/DTS to 2channel stereo AAC files. The quality on the player is great! I can see a lag occasionally though! It's most definately a drivers issue!
I've never tried to play a 1080p MP4 though.
I've had some success playing 1080p VC1 video files though aka WMV (Windows Media Video) files on the native video player without any issues! The video is silky smooth!
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Reposting my original question, since no one answered (most likely cause it appeared at the very end of page one)....
anyone can help with transferring MKVs to the tab in the first place?
renaming/removing the extension doesn't help!

komorka said:
Reposting my original question, since no one answered (most likely cause it appeared at the very end of page one)....
anyone can help with transferring MKVs to the tab in the first place?
renaming/removing the extension doesn't help!
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I guess your windows is broken since I (and other) have no problem transferring any files to my tab. You can try using alternative explorer such as directory opus or xplorer2
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foxmeister said:
The usual answer to this question is because they have loads of 1080p videos already, and don't want to re-encode for the GT10.1.
Simple answer though is that the Tegra-2 SoC doesn't support 1080p in hardware for anything other than baseline profile, whereas the Hummingbird SoC in the GT7 supports baseline, main, and high profile (nothing to do with the screen size).
Regards,
Dave
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Really? So in which area this dual core can perform better than original tab single core? This is much disappointment for me since this is considered high end tablet :-(
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720/1080p AVI/mkv video playback

I was guna go for the prime bt there is just too many issues with it. I mainly download movies through torrent and watch it straight away on the tab and I would like to know is 720/1080p playback smooth at all? (not on YouTube) thank you

yes playback is smooth. it will any video as long as its codec is supported.
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Smooth playback as long as its not a 10bit file.

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yes playback is smooth. it will any video as long as its codec is supported.
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From my experience this isn't entirely true. I've had difficulties playing some .wmv and .mp4 files but I'm not knowledgable enough to understand why.

seems like i should just go for the prime or wait for another t3 tab

I use Dice Player and it plays every AVI and MKV file I have thrown at it, no lag and no worries. Video playback is my main use for the 7.7 and i've had no issues with it. I intentionally went for the 7.7 with its Exynos over the Tegra2 tablets and i'm glad i did.

Yes dice seems to play more than others like MX does.
I use both mx and dice - dice for the ones MX doesn't like!
Video performance is generally great with a mixture of avi/mkv and mp4 all with a mixture of stereo/ac3/dts soundtracks.
Highly recommended device.

seems like i should just go for the prime or wait for another t3 tab
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I'd get the galaxy tab or wait. I had two primes and though the tablet on its own is great, there is no GPS and Wifi reception is weak. Lots of reboots. The aluminum back was a design flaw affecting reception and Asus is already replacing the device with newer models with plastic parts over the antenna similar to the 7.7. I see the prime relegated to the closet soon due to its problems.
In comparison I found the samsung to be close to the prime in performance, better in some areas, but the screen is way better IMHO. Can't wait for ICS.
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richB7 said:
I'd get the galaxy tab or wait. I had two primes and though the tablet on its own is great, there is no GPS and Wifi reception is weak. Lots of reboots. The aluminum back was a design flaw affecting reception and Asus is already replacing the device with newer models with plastic parts over the antenna similar to the 7.7. I see the prime relegated to the closet soon due to its problems.
In comparison I found the samsung to be close to the prime in performance, better in some areas, but the screen is way better IMHO. Can't wait for ICS.
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i am still struggling because i had 2 720p mkv (x264 dexter 1.61gb and x264 suits 1.42gb) on my 10.1 before and i can play suits using DICE with no problem but dexter is just not watchable. i am aware of the 10-bit mkv problem but when i click more info on my mac it doesn't tell me whether it is 8 or 10 bit. i mainly jus download the video on my tab and if i cant watch it, it is very annoying as i dont like wasting time to download a lower quality one lol
any1 knows is the 10 bit due to the hardware or software problem?
and if i open the tab, it is not possible to have a refund as this is not the fault of the product....

K999rrl said:
i am still struggling because i had 2 720p mkv (x264 dexter 1.61gb and x264 suits 1.42gb) on my 10.1 before and i can play suits using DICE with no problem but dexter is just not watchable. i am aware of the 10-bit mkv problem but when i click more info on my mac it doesn't tell me whether it is 8 or 10 bit. i mainly jus download the video on my tab and if i cant watch it, it is very annoying as i dont like wasting time to download a lower quality one lol
any1 knows is the 10 bit due to the hardware or software problem?
and if i open the tab, it is not possible to have a refund as this is not the fault of the product....
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There is a hardware video decode chip in the tab that handles video, up to 1080p high profile h.264. However, 10-bit color profiles are a fairly recent advance in encoding, so the hardware does not support it (I have yet to see any hardware that does, in fact). On your desktop, your cpu can handle the decoding, but of course your desktop cpu is much more powerful than the two cortex A9s in Exynos. MX will show you if hardware decoding isn't supported, in which case you're basically screwed for high-bitrate video of any kind.

K999rrl said:
i am still struggling because i had 2 720p mkv (x264 dexter 1.61gb and x264 suits 1.42gb) on my 10.1 before and i can play suits using DICE with no problem but dexter is just not watchable. i am aware of the 10-bit mkv problem but when i click more info on my mac it doesn't tell me whether it is 8 or 10 bit. i mainly jus download the video on my tab and if i cant watch it, it is very annoying as i dont like wasting time to download a lower quality one lol
any1 knows is the 10 bit due to the hardware or software problem?
and if i open the tab, it is not possible to have a refund as this is not the fault of the product....
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you don't have to worry about mkv playback here in the galaxy tab 7.7 because unlike the 10.1 which sports a crappy tegra 2 processor which can only play baseline profile x264/h264 encoded vids, the gtab7.7 uses an Exynos processor which happily decodes high profile x264/h264 videos
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