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[Q] Tegra 2 HD playback issues?

I've read a few reviews of the Xoom and now the Transformer that mention issues playing back 720p or higher HD video. Stuttering, etc. Is there any truth to this? Flash HD video I know stutters but honestly it skips on my Core2Duo PC. I'm just referring to standard video files I might load from my microSD card.
Thanks in advance.

Just got mine today.
I put a 720p MKV of a tv show and used RockPlayer.
It was not pretty in either hardware or software decode mode.

You have to check that profile those HD videos are using.
Tegra 2 can decode 720p high and 1080p baseline or main (not sure here), the problem is that Honeycomb is not fully optimized yet to use all Tegra 2 acceleration features.
I think that if you re-encode those HD videos to baseline profile, they should run smooth.
There will be an upgrade from Adobe for flash to hardware accelerate 720p videos on these mobile SoC, but it needs Honeycomb 3.1, it's still not available yet.

So is the problem honeycomb or is it the Tegra 2? I can live with it being Honeycomb but I don't want to buy weak hardware.

Supposedly, MoboPlayer and VitalPlayer are better than RockPlayer.
Have you guys tried HD videos using either?

bilbravo said:
So is the problem honeycomb or is it the Tegra 2? I can live with it being Honeycomb but I don't want to buy weak hardware.
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it's honeycomb.

Can you guys run xda developers site using the stock browser? Go to the forums section and see if it scrolls without lag.
Thanks
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joe_dude said:
Supposedly, MoboPlayer and VitalPlayer are better than RockPlayer.
Have you guys tried HD videos using either?
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This. Mobo Player runs 720p mkv files with subs flawlessly. Now if only I could customize the bottom dock to go away.
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Jocelyn said:
This. Mobo Player runs 720p mkv files with subs flawlessly. Now if only I could customize the bottom dock to go away.
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Which version do we use?

Hi Jocelyn,
I don't know what mkv files you are trying to play, but either in software or hardware mode they suck for me. I watch Naruto Anime and its horrible using moboplayer. I don't discredit moboplayer devs as they have come up with the only player on the android market that works for most files, but mob do not work smoothly. As for other file types, they work flawlessly. I have converted StarTrek and DespicableMe and they play beautifully without lag or skipping.

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Which version do we use?
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I'm using 1.2 and watching Steins;Gate right now. All the mkv files I watch came that way and have never been converted by me.
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Jocelyn said:
I'm using 1.2 and watching Steins;Gate right now. All the mkv files I watch came that way and have never been converted by me.
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What profile are they?

ELTinos said:
What profile are they?
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Media Info screenshot

Have you guys tried the optimized codec pack for Moboplayer?
Tegra 2 is suppose to use ARM V7 VFPv3 (right?).

Its not a honeycomb issue. Its a tegra 2 issue and it is not a software issue its hardware. H.264 does not work good or at all. You have to use MPEG4. I used a 720p video that plays great on my ipad 2 and had to convert to mpeg4. I tried to get good quality from MPEG4 and it increased the file size from 5.6 to 9 gigs. I swore to never buy a tegra 2 device again after testing other tegra 2 tablet & phone but I keep getting sucked back in by the hype. I hate apple but I have nothing but good things to say about the ipad 2. Everything just works and its way way faster.

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And this one plays without stuttering and lag? What's the bitrate? Almost all of the series I have are in 720p with [email protected] and bitrate around 4mbps. Most of them aren't even downloadable at 1080p so I don't mind if these 720p are just working fine.

shep211 said:
Its not a honeycomb issue. Its a tegra 2 issue and it is not a software issue its hardware. H.264 does not work good or at all. You have to use MPEG4. I used a 720p video that plays great on my ipad 2 and had to convert to mpeg4. I tried to get good quality from MPEG4 and it increased the file size from 5.6 to 9 gigs. I swore to never buy a tegra 2 device again after testing other tegra 2 tablet & phone but I keep getting sucked back in by the hype. I hate apple but I have nothing but good things to say about the ipad 2. Everything just works and its way way faster.
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This is what confuses me, I keep hearing it's honeycomb (and hence s/w issue which should be fixable by s/w udpate) and then I hear it's Tegra 2 issue (and hence h/w issue which can only be fixed with Tegra 3 device).
If it is Tegra 2 issue, I am leaning towards canceling my order and waiting for Tegra3. I have a lot of videos which are H264 720p Hi profile that I was hoping to watch on the TF.
I currently have a SGT which will tide me over....
What I would like is some confirmation that is indeed h/w issue....
KG

Is there a good Handbrake profile available for the Transformer?

Its a shame that the Archos 101 plays 720p mkvs just fine and the tegra 2 sucks at it, hope this will be fixed soon!
btw. here is a preset for Handbrake, rename to .plist:

This is a duplicate thread to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1053125
Another user posted a Handbrake profile in that thread to get your mp4/mkv to play smoothly on the stock Honeycomb build (assuming it's software related). The only downside to this profile is that it will double your file size since it's baseline and uses less compression.
As for the hardware vs software issue, we should know soon assuming Google releases HC 3.1 at the Google I/O conference May 10th.

Video/Movie Playback

Can somebody give a final word on video playback. I intend to watch movies from a portable harddrive and am curious what files have had success, quality, and overall experience with Iconia as a movie player.
Cheers
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After trying multiple players and a few different file types, the only reliable medium that I've found for playing movies on the A500 is AVI, and something on the order of 1280x540 (or there abouts as depending on the movie, the 1280 is consistent but the 540 varies a bit.) MP4's and MKV's are all stuttering messes with distorted sound.
HC 3.1 looks like it'll fix things a bit coming in June.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVBpeQNWbEQ

Thanks for the info gentleman. I'm buying it anyway and will just convert. Great link.
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So let me get this straight. My Samsung Galaxy S can play anything including .mkv with multiple streams but the Iconia can not? Without conversion even 1080P movies.
I was hoping that a tab with dual core soc and 1GB DD3 ram would play those files without a problem.
What about mobo player?

Sutorcen said:
So let me get this straight. My Samsung Galaxy S can play anything including .mkv with multiple streams but the Iconia can not? Without conversion even 1080P movies.
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For the most part, the problem here is that Samsung added in additional codec support with hardware acceleration into the Android frameworks, whereas all current Honeycomb devices seem to just support the "core" Android codecs.
I have the same issue in that my single core 7" Galaxy Tab is generally a better video player than my dual core Tegra-powered tablet.
Regards,
Dave

Thanks Dave
I wanted to buy a tablet mainly for watching movies, since holding a laptop all that time and during summer isn't the best solution.
Since video playback was superb on the Galaxy devices, does this mean that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 will have similar capabilities? Does the GT 10.1v have the same capabilities? If yes then the Galaxy Tab just returned to the no.1 spot on my "tablet to be" list. Too bad it doesn't have all the port on it.
Will go and check the 10.1v forum too.

I have found that "ES File Explorer"'s built in movie player does a great job at .m4v and .mp4 (formatted for the iPad). Smooth playback. Also, "Moboplayer" does a better job than the stock movie player.
My issue is finding a file type my xBox and my DirectV DVR like. I can share the media to both devices, but they don't support the .m4v and .MP4.
Astro

Sutorcen said:
Since video playback was superb on the Galaxy devices, does this mean that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 will have similar capabilities? Does the GT 10.1v have the same capabilities?
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As far as I'm aware, the 10.1v, 10.1 and 8.9 Galaxy Tabs are still Tegra-2 based, and have the same limitations as any other Honeycomb Tegra-2 tablet (e.g. Iconia, Transformer, Xoom etc).
That being said, I believe the Froyo-based Viewsonic GTablet is also Tegra-2 based, yet had additional codec support built in to the Android frameworks, so a lot of this is a Honeycomb issue, rather than a Tegra-2 issue.
Regards,
Dave

I have had some luck using xvid4psp to convert my mkv/mp4/m4v files to baseline 3.1 mp4 files with little to no change in file size (720P is all I've tried so far). Quality is excellent clear.fi finds them locally and on my windows home server.
I'm not a video quality freak, but to my eyes there is no change in video quality. The sound on the other hand was converted from AC3/DTS to AAC so there is audio degradation on the whole, but I'm not someone who cares an awful lot about that either.

I stongly recommend the MoboPlayer. It will download a codec pack after you install it, and after than has been able to play every video file I threw at it. It'll use GPU hardware decoding depending on the codec, or offer to play using software.

4dthinker said:
I stongly recommend the MoboPlayer. It will download a codec pack after you install it, and after than has been able to play every video file I threw at it. It'll use GPU hardware decoding depending on the codec, or offer to play using software.
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+1, did exactly the same.............

I'm using Rockplayer as a carry over from my HTC Evo, and it plays everything I've thrown at it. There's a free and donate version. The free version is in the Market.

tips for playing back 720p mkv

I am having problems playing back 720p move on the device. They stutter with rock player and qqplayer. Any suggestions?

Transcode them to different profile - like mp4 or avi. Or still mkv but main or base profile (I suspect that your movies are in High Profile) that is not supported by Tegra 2. :-(
This problem showed up with release of Xoom and everyone with Tegra 2 tablet has the same problem. As all Honeycomb tablets on the market are essentially the same it is not possible to see if it would be OK on a different CPU/SOC. :-(

>Any suggestions?
Drag-drop.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102922

galtom said:
Transcode them to different profile - like mp4 or avi. Or still mkv but main or base profile (I suspect that your movies are in High Profile) that is not supported by Tegra 2. :-(
This problem showed up with release of Xoom and everyone with Tegra 2 tablet has the same problem. As all Honeycomb tablets on the market are essentially the same it is not possible to see if it would be OK on a different CPU/SOC. :-(
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That's dissapointing. My epic 4g can play 720p mkv straight withou conversion. Is this a problem that can be fixed in the future or will they always need conversion?

Vplayer, maybe? Try the 7 day Trial version first, though it's just about 5 usd. It seems to have more coded emmbedded too.

fhurricane said:
That's dissapointing. My epic 4g can play 720p mkv straight withou conversion. Is this a problem that can be fixed in the future or will they always need conversion?
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3.1 brought the update to be able to play certain high profile 720p movies in a mp4 container, which was a big step. I'm not sure how much further it'll get since it's a Tegra 2 limitation. This is why Boxee Box dropped the Tegra 2 chipset. We'll have to rely on the devs of market players to take advantage of the 3.1 release for high profile MKV support (not sure if any of the players are capable yet as I haven't been reading the Transformer or other tablet forums. There's at least a couple threads on 720p playback in each tablet forum). Hopefully they can also incorporate the lights out mode instead of having the whole home task bar on the bottom. These limitations are also another reason why a lot of us are very much looking forward to Kal-el.

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3.1 brought the update to be able to play certain high profile 720p movies in a mp4 container, which was a big step. I'm not sure how much further it'll get since it's a Tegra 2 limitation. This is why Boxee Box dropped the Tegra 2 chipset. We'll have to rely on the devs of market players to take advantage of the 3.1 release for high profile MKV support (not sure if any of the players are capable yet as I haven't been reading the Transformer or other tablet forums. There's at least a couple threads on 720p playback in each tablet forum). Hopefully they can also incorporate the lights out mode instead of having the whole home task bar on the bottom. These limitations are also another reason why a lot of us are very much looking forward to Kal-el.
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Is there a official source for this limitation?

The limitation that every android Tegra 2 tablet owner is experiencing is official enough for me. When I said I'm not sure how much further it'll get, I was more talking along the lines of 1080p High Profile.

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The limitation that every android Tegra 2 tablet owner is experiencing is official enough for me. When I said I'm not sure how much further it'll get, I was more talking along the lines of 1080p High Profile.
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I really don't think we'll ever see any 1080p high profile playback from Tegra 2 based devices.
I've watched many full length action movies in high profile 720p h264 on the XOOM under HC 3.1, and 720p playback is much improved, but still not perfect. The video will seem flawless for a while, and then when you come to a scene with a lot of heavy action, particularly where the camera pans across the scene, the video will sometimes fall totally to pieces. Slowdown, stuttering and skipped frames - a real mess. These occurrences are very brief and infrequent, but seriously annoying when they occur. For full length action films I've gone back to transcoding the video to baseline profile.
The Tegra 2 handles high profile 720p video only well enough for casual viewing in my opinion - TV shows, comedies that sort of thing.

Digital Man said:
I really don't think we'll ever see any 1080p high profile playback from Tegra 2 based devices.
I've watched many full length action movies in high profile 720p h264 on the XOOM under HC 3.1, and 720p playback is much improved, but still not perfect. The video will seem flawless for a while, and then when you come to a scene with a lot of heavy action, particularly where the camera pans across the scene, the video will sometimes fall totally to pieces. Slowdown, stuttering and skipped frames - a real mess. These occurrences are very brief and infrequent, but seriously annoying when they occur. For full length action films I've gone back to transcoding the video to baseline profile.
The Tegra 2 handles high profile 720p video only well enough for casual viewing in my opinion - TV shows, comedies that sort of thing.
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That input is greatly appreciated. It'll save me some time when I do my re-encodes.

e.mote said:
>Any suggestions?
Drag-drop.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1102922
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I used this, still yielded an unplayable file.
edit: nvm, plays with stock player, but not rock player

OK......If Tegra 2 Is Underpowered?

OK,
I have just returned my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (16Gb) to the store after suffering the "Newtons Ring / Oil Spill" phenomenon, and after the store assistant told me that someone else had returned 2 with the same problem, and BOTH store display models have the same issues, I decided not to get a new one. So now I am in the market for a new tablet. (And to get rid of my Dock, Book cover and SD / USB Connection Kit, Dock - Used, Book Cover - Unopened and SD / USB Connection Kit - Unopened - but thats another story).
So I am thinking about moving away from Tegra 2 after having problems getting it to play High Profile HD video due to the underpowering of the Tegra 2 chipset.
I am considering the Archos G9, which has a Texas Instruments ARM dual-core CORTEX A9 OMAP 4 chip (1Ghz to 1.5Ghz), which Archos claim will play High Profile HD video.
Are there any tabs that you think I should consider?
I realise that this is a Galaxy Tab forum, but I have read some good advice from users of this forum section.
Thanks
Stewart

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OK,
I have just returned my Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 (16Gb) to the store after suffering the "Newtons Ring / Oil Spill" phenomenon, and after the store assistant told me that someone else had returned 2 with the same problem, and BOTH store display models have the same issues, I decided not to get a new one. So now I am in the market for a new tablet. (And to get rid of my Dock, Book cover and SD / USB Connection Kit, Dock - Used, Book Cover - Unopened and SD / USB Connection Kit - Unopened - but thats another story).
So I am thinking about moving away from Tegra 2 after having problems getting it to play High Profile HD video due to the underpowering of the Tegra 2 chipset.
I am considering the Archos G9, which has a Texas Instruments ARM dual-core CORTEX A9 OMAP 4 chip (1Ghz to 1.5Ghz), which Archos claim will play High Profile HD video.
Are there any tabs that you think I should consider?
I realise that this is a Galaxy Tab forum, but I have read some good advice from users of this forum section.
Thanks
Stewart
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Archos make great media players so their new ones will probably play x264 without a problem. But I've never liked their design or build quality.

Itaintrite said:
But I've never liked their design or build quality.
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This.
Add to it that they're big and heavy based on the published specs.
If you're not a big video (streaming and local) user the HTC Jetstream/Puccini is a great tablet. It'll probably be released in Europe this Fall.

If you want a good thin alternative to the Tab 10.1, the new OMAP-powered Toshiba AT200 looks like a good bet, if it releases in the near future.

I think you might need to wait for the next generation of tablets. The GT10 is as good as it gets right now. After the new year there will be several more options but as of now, there's nothing that will get you high profile video and build quality at the same time. A quick question about the newton rings: could you actually see them when the screen was turned on?

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I think you might need to wait for the next generation of tablets. The GT10 is as good as it gets right now. After the new year there will be several more options but as of now, there's nothing that will get you high profile video and build quality at the same time. A quick question about the newton rings: could you actually see them when the screen was turned on?
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Yeah i could see them, especially in dark scenes on movies etc.
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Croak said:
OMAP-powered Toshiba AT200
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wait for the next generation of tablets.
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One of these two options.

Or you can get a Blackberry Playbook, I have one and it plays 1080p videos without a sweat, you can even multitask while the video is playing without a single frame being skipped!!! The HDMI output is the best of any tablet on the market, and the screen is top notch.
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The Playbook is using the same OMAP CPU as the aforementioned Toshiba AT200, except clocked at 1GHz as opposed to the 1.2GHz of the Toshiba.
So if it can rattle through 1080p videos, there's a good chance the Toshiba will be able to as well.
It's the GPU, the PowerVR SGX GPUs are something pretty special.

Nope, not underpowered, just a crap video player supplied with the stock rom. I thought it was true until I found dice player. With dice I have had no trouble playing any video so far. The 4 gb file size limit is more of an issue that finding a proper video player.
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No even with dice player, it can't play 1080p high profile video. Tegra 2 is so weak that it even stutters playing some YouTube videos.
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Nope, not underpowered, just a crap video player supplied with the stock rom. I thought it was true until I found dice player. With dice I have had no trouble playing any video so far. The 4 gb file size limit is more of an issue that finding a proper video player.
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hbkmog said:
No even with dice player, it can't play 1080p high profile video. Tegra 2 is so weak that it even stutters playing some YouTube videos.
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Same here. Most of my videos are 1080p. I've tried a number of media players and none have been able to keep up.

Latoc said:
Or you can get a Blackberry Playbook, I have one and it plays 1080p videos without a sweat, you can even multitask while the video is playing without a single frame being skipped!!! The HDMI output is the best of any tablet on the market, and the screen is top notch.
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I really like the styling of the playbook, and if it ran android i would be all over it!
However, since it hasn't been selling as well as RIM had hoped, we might see some heavy discounts soon?
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Tegra2 only support H.264 [email protected] and no weighted prediction B-frames.
For me thats okay, no need to play higher resolution on the tab than 720p anyway. Only problem is having to recode high res videos.
And about the 4gig limit. You can copy larger files too, over wireless if you have the time. (which takes a ****load of time, is there any other way to copy larger files to the tab, and maybe even faster?)

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I think you might need to wait for the next generation of tablets. The GT10 is as good as it gets right now. After the new year there will be several more options but as of now, there's nothing that will get you high profile video and build quality at the same time. A quick question about the newton rings: could you actually see them when the screen was turned on?
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The HP Touchpad can do it if somebody writes a decent media player for it. I've tried remuxing 1080p h264 videos (to reencode the audio while keeping video intact) and it plays the videos very smoothly with stock player. Waiting patiently for Android to come so I can try DicePlayer and others with the TouchPad.

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Tegra2 only support H.264 [email protected] and no weighted prediction B-frames.
For me thats okay, no need to play higher resolution on the tab than 720p anyway. Only problem is having to recode high res videos.
And about the 4gig limit. You can copy larger files too, over wireless if you have the time. (which takes a ****load of time, is there any other way to copy larger files to the tab, and maybe even faster?)
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Never understood the desire to play full 1080p monster video files on a tablet. I love watching full size on my huge plasma but on the tablet it is just a waste to play such a large file. I batch encoded some for playimg on the tablet for trip a while back with handbrake and all I had to do was limit three bit rate. The video looked perfect and with dice player it never stuttered.
Each to hire one I guess, but this is much better than watching on my phone and the form factor is perfect.
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Never understood the desire to play full 1080p monster video files on a tablet. I love watching full size on my huge plasma but on the tablet it is just a waste to play such a large file. I batch encoded some for playimg on the tablet for trip a while back with handbrake and all I had to do was limit three bit rate. The video looked perfect and with dice player it never stuttered.
Each to hire one I guess, but this is much better than watching on my phone and the form factor is perfect.
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It's just a matter of convenience. Would you prefer reencode all the videos if it could be avoided? And not everybody has a computer fast enough to do so quickly. On my intel E8400, a 2hour movie will take about half a day.

It's an extra step that should be unnecessary. It limits how you can use your tab since you just can't drag & drop videos on a whim not knowing if it'll play. Also it's not awaste if you're using it to feed an hdtv.

Were people expecting the first generation tablets to be blu ray players too? This is complaining just for the sake of complaining.
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I don't see the point playing 1080p video on tablet either. Speaking of convenient, I think it's more convenient just to download smaller 720p videos and not have to worry about file size and such.
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720/1080p AVI/mkv video playback

I was guna go for the prime bt there is just too many issues with it. I mainly download movies through torrent and watch it straight away on the tab and I would like to know is 720/1080p playback smooth at all? (not on YouTube) thank you

yes playback is smooth. it will any video as long as its codec is supported.
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Smooth playback as long as its not a 10bit file.

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yes playback is smooth. it will any video as long as its codec is supported.
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From my experience this isn't entirely true. I've had difficulties playing some .wmv and .mp4 files but I'm not knowledgable enough to understand why.

seems like i should just go for the prime or wait for another t3 tab

I use Dice Player and it plays every AVI and MKV file I have thrown at it, no lag and no worries. Video playback is my main use for the 7.7 and i've had no issues with it. I intentionally went for the 7.7 with its Exynos over the Tegra2 tablets and i'm glad i did.

Yes dice seems to play more than others like MX does.
I use both mx and dice - dice for the ones MX doesn't like!
Video performance is generally great with a mixture of avi/mkv and mp4 all with a mixture of stereo/ac3/dts soundtracks.
Highly recommended device.

seems like i should just go for the prime or wait for another t3 tab
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I'd get the galaxy tab or wait. I had two primes and though the tablet on its own is great, there is no GPS and Wifi reception is weak. Lots of reboots. The aluminum back was a design flaw affecting reception and Asus is already replacing the device with newer models with plastic parts over the antenna similar to the 7.7. I see the prime relegated to the closet soon due to its problems.
In comparison I found the samsung to be close to the prime in performance, better in some areas, but the screen is way better IMHO. Can't wait for ICS.
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I'd get the galaxy tab or wait. I had two primes and though the tablet on its own is great, there is no GPS and Wifi reception is weak. Lots of reboots. The aluminum back was a design flaw affecting reception and Asus is already replacing the device with newer models with plastic parts over the antenna similar to the 7.7. I see the prime relegated to the closet soon due to its problems.
In comparison I found the samsung to be close to the prime in performance, better in some areas, but the screen is way better IMHO. Can't wait for ICS.
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i am still struggling because i had 2 720p mkv (x264 dexter 1.61gb and x264 suits 1.42gb) on my 10.1 before and i can play suits using DICE with no problem but dexter is just not watchable. i am aware of the 10-bit mkv problem but when i click more info on my mac it doesn't tell me whether it is 8 or 10 bit. i mainly jus download the video on my tab and if i cant watch it, it is very annoying as i dont like wasting time to download a lower quality one lol
any1 knows is the 10 bit due to the hardware or software problem?
and if i open the tab, it is not possible to have a refund as this is not the fault of the product....

K999rrl said:
i am still struggling because i had 2 720p mkv (x264 dexter 1.61gb and x264 suits 1.42gb) on my 10.1 before and i can play suits using DICE with no problem but dexter is just not watchable. i am aware of the 10-bit mkv problem but when i click more info on my mac it doesn't tell me whether it is 8 or 10 bit. i mainly jus download the video on my tab and if i cant watch it, it is very annoying as i dont like wasting time to download a lower quality one lol
any1 knows is the 10 bit due to the hardware or software problem?
and if i open the tab, it is not possible to have a refund as this is not the fault of the product....
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There is a hardware video decode chip in the tab that handles video, up to 1080p high profile h.264. However, 10-bit color profiles are a fairly recent advance in encoding, so the hardware does not support it (I have yet to see any hardware that does, in fact). On your desktop, your cpu can handle the decoding, but of course your desktop cpu is much more powerful than the two cortex A9s in Exynos. MX will show you if hardware decoding isn't supported, in which case you're basically screwed for high-bitrate video of any kind.

K999rrl said:
i am still struggling because i had 2 720p mkv (x264 dexter 1.61gb and x264 suits 1.42gb) on my 10.1 before and i can play suits using DICE with no problem but dexter is just not watchable. i am aware of the 10-bit mkv problem but when i click more info on my mac it doesn't tell me whether it is 8 or 10 bit. i mainly jus download the video on my tab and if i cant watch it, it is very annoying as i dont like wasting time to download a lower quality one lol
any1 knows is the 10 bit due to the hardware or software problem?
and if i open the tab, it is not possible to have a refund as this is not the fault of the product....
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you don't have to worry about mkv playback here in the galaxy tab 7.7 because unlike the 10.1 which sports a crappy tegra 2 processor which can only play baseline profile x264/h264 encoded vids, the gtab7.7 uses an Exynos processor which happily decodes high profile x264/h264 videos
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