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I have searched and searched and for some reason I can't find the answer.
I would like to try out the new WP7, but I need a radio that suports 576 of RAM.
Specs:
Stock T-mobile US
Radio 2.15.50.14
I have done nothing to the phone yet and don't want to screw it up and have my wife yelling at me. (and if I screw my phone up, trust me she will yell for days) So before I just did it I thouhgt I would ask.
And yes, I really did search before I asked. Sorry but I couldn't find the answer.
any t-mobile us radios support 576 of ram, so you are good to go.
I have a 576 MB RAM HD2 running WP7 and I am using the same Radio as you.
Just out of interest, are you sure your HD2 is not the T-Mobile 1024 MB model?
After looking I do have the 1024, So that means that I will have no issues?
how_weird said:
After looking I do have the 1024, So that means that I will have no issues?
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wp7 works but only uses 512mb of rom...
With a TMO US HD2 you have 1024MB ROM, and 576MB RAM.
any radio above 2.08 supports 576 ram..that is why we need radio above 2.08 even to run android...............your tmous well supports this and has 576mb ram enabled...so go ahead flash hspl and android nand / wp7, enjoy
Is this true of the UK HD2 as well?
So any radio above 2.08 will support 576 RAM, even non-us tmobile versions?
Thanks a lot
brunswick said:
Is this true of the UK HD2 as well?
So any radio above 2.08 will support 576 RAM, even non-us tmobile versions?
Thanks a lot
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Yes any 2.08 or higher Radio will enable the 576 MB of ram on a EU HD2.
will just flashing to the newer radio enable the higher ram capacity to be unlocked using the stock win mobile 6.5 rom? or does a custom rom also have to be used in conjunction with the updated radio rom?
slybunda said:
will just flashing to the newer radio enable the higher ram capacity to be unlocked using the stock win mobile 6.5 rom? or does a custom rom also have to be used in conjunction with the updated radio rom?
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The combination of a Radio of 2.08 or higher and a TMOUS Windows Mobile stock ROMs or TMOUS based custom Windows Mobile ROMs, or MAGLDR 1.13 enables the 576 MB of RAM.
thanks for the reply, is there any problem using the newer radio rom or the TMOUS on a UK HD2, i plan on using the phone with my UK T-Mobile carrier.
only tmous owners must be careful, our regular hd2s can take any radio, any rom. Only tmous must never flash a regular radio.
hi
i wish to get an HTC LEO insted my Captivate whice is kindda boooooring phone
is there any chance to unlock the extra memory from 448 to 576mb ram
after installing androind as primary OS?
Just flash the latest radio
Try this one Radio 2.15.50.14
don't use a 51 version
I may be wrong but I thought you had to have a TMOUS ROM (or stleast a ROM dazed from a TMOUS ROM) and a TMOUS radio to get the etrade memory. If this is so you will lose it when. you flash a NAND Andriod ROM. Like I said though I could be wrong.
T-Macgnolia said:
I may be wrong but I thought you had to have a TMOUS ROM (or stleast a ROM dazed from a TMOUS ROM) and a TMOUS radio to get the etrade memory. If this is so you will lose it when. you flash a NAND Andriod ROM. Like I said though I could be wrong.
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the latest 2.15.50 radio enables the 576 memory... since the radio is at the base of the hd 2 a rom flash of android or windows won't erase it. now stock wm6.5 roms have radios built in so in those cases it will replace it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=929917
i installed AmericanAndroid in SD card but the total memory available(RAM) is only 411 ( settings>about) though the Tmobile HD2 has RAm of 576 MB.
i m not about to figure out why
We all show 411. For a start (as documented countless times) the graphics chipset takes 128 Meg, so you only really have 448, (same in winmo) then I guess android or the system must take 30 odd meg,
I've tried five or six different nand roms and they all show 411.
Ok thanks for the clatification just to confirm r u also using tmobile hd2 US version
no, but magldr unlocks the extra ram on a reg leo in the same way that tmous rom and radio does in winmo, otherwise mine would show 283 not 411 (or there abouts) since as stock we have 448 - 128 for graphics = 336 actually available.
Thats why we reg users must use ..50.. radios with magldr.
samsamuel said:
no, but magldr unlocks the extra ram on a reg leo in the same way that tmous rom and radio does in winmo, otherwise mine would show 283 not 411 (or there abouts) since as stock we have 448 - 128 for graphics = 336 actually available.
Thats why we reg users must use ..50.. radios with magldr.
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i couldn't understand most of what you said .. are you saying that there are specific MAGLDR and RADIO version to enable full RAM capacity for TMOUS HD2?
and as i understand u r also using TMOUS HD2 and you also getting 411 MB total available memory in Androids builds.. if that is so then i dont have anymore query . because you know more of this stuff than me.. i just put android in my TMOUS HD2 yesterday..
also i m using Radio Leo 2.15.50.14 Radio version and MAGLDR113_DAF MAGLDR..
No, I'm using a normal Leo, (euro hd2, regular, whatever you wanna call it) which is sold as having 448 Meg of ram, with 128 for gfx, 320 useable, ( yours has 576 with 448 useable) but was soon discovered that flashing tmous roms and radio to it unlocks an otherwise hidden 128 Meg, giving us 576 meg too.(don't anyone bother asking is it real, the software believes it, many many people with a ton more knowledge than me believe it, it works, nuff said)
Anyway, magldr requires a tmous radio to work(none of this affects you, you can't not have a tmous radio else you would have a brick) and magldr plus tmous radio does the same for us reg users as a tmous winmo rom and radio, unlocks our hidden ram and so we all have 576-128less a bit more =411 available to the OS
You DO NOT have hidden ram, so don't ask.
Oh thanks that brings a lot of clarity to my understanding. So basically tmous which were sold with have larger ram of 576 and the other non US hd2 sold with said 448 ram are basically same in terms if ram hardware capacity. When i bought hd2 i paid special attention to tmous hd2 necause it ad larger ram capacity bow i realise both tmous and non US hd2 are same.
what about the internal ROM capacity is it also hidden and discovered in the case of non US hd2
Thanks a lot for your clariication
No, there's no hidden rom (well, not that anyone has found, be nice tho!) So you still have double rom PLUS the tmouses were pretty heavily subsidised, (I paid near 175 dollars cash plus 18 months at 60 dollars/mth contract ((all in pounds, I'm estimating)) for mine) so don't feel you were ripped off. The only negative with the tmous is the danger of radio bricking and the ugly branding on the case.
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No, there's no hidden rom (well, not that anyone has found, be nice tho!) So you still have double rom PLUS the tmouses were pretty heavily subsidised, (I paid near 175 dollars cash plus 18 months at 60 dollars/mth contract ((all in pounds, I'm estimating)) for mine) so don't feel you were ripped off. The only negative with the tmous is the danger of radio bricking and the ugly branding on the case.
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Yeah I do very much dislike the big silver T-Mobile on the front of my HD2, but ohcwell what are you gonna do you know.
T-Macgnolia said:
Yeah I do very much dislike the big silver T-Mobile on the front of my HD2, but ohcwell what are you gonna do you know.
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small price to pay for the extra rom, a bit like complaining how much the prancing pony spoils the look of your ferrari, hehe.
Please help..........
My Tmous showing 372.73 MB total memory, I have flashed with " 2_HD2_Pdaimatejam_Rom_Wp7.5_mango_7.10.8107.79_v7.3"
Please reply what is the issue?
Thanks in advance
I have WM 6.5 and american android SD 2.3.7 . When I have SPL 2,08 HSPL I have on my HTC HD2 all the RAM unlocked and when I change to SPL 3,03 HSPL I have only 448 MB in WM 6.5 and 411 MB in android.
I think that using SPL 2,08 HSPL unlock the whole RAM in HTC HD2.
Samuelgentl said:
I have WM 6.5 and american android SD 2.3.7 . When I have SPL 2,08 HSPL I have on my HTC HD2 all the RAM unlocked and when I change to SPL 3,03 HSPL I have only 448 MB in WM 6.5 and 411 MB in android.
I think that using SPL 2,08 HSPL unlock the whole RAM in HTC HD2.
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I have HSPL 2.08....
And I think Tmous HD2 doesn't need to unlock ram... because its originally shows 512 mb.
But I don't know why my Tmous showing this less amount of ram.
Samuelgentl said:
I have WM 6.5 and american android SD 2.3.7 . When I have SPL 2,08 HSPL I have on my HTC HD2 all the RAM unlocked and when I change to SPL 3,03 HSPL I have only 448 MB in WM 6.5 and 411 MB in android.
I think that using SPL 2,08 HSPL unlock the whole RAM in HTC HD2.
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Didn't you even bother reading the first page of this thread?! Some people can be so stupid...
NO, THERE IS NO HIDDEN RAM WHICH CAN BE UNLOCKED. IN ANDROID YOU WILL GET 411 MB AND NOTHING MORE.
Also, why would you even need any form of HSPL for SD Android? It's not needed, and why would you flash HSPL3.03 rather than 2.08?
I had a T-Mobile HD2. It got broken and was changed for an EU version.
I'm in the process to install NativeSD Android version and I can report what I noticed on my device.
It is running windows. No modification. WM 6.5 (5.2.21913; ROM 3.14.407.2 (04666) GER).
Before I setup the SPL to 2.08.HSPL, it was showing 411 MB of RAM. Now, after the 2.08, it is showing 576 MB.
(still on Win 6.5. I don't know how it is going to stay after installing the NativeSD Android)
So, maybe it is right...
Updating again...
After installing the Native-SD Android, the device shows 410 MB.
Here I found a possible explanation:
"NOTE2: You do NOT need to flash a Stock Rom before starting this, a Custom Rom will be fine as long as you have HardSPL 2.08 and a 576 RAM compatable Radio"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
So, it was showing 576 MB after update the radio and using WM.
After installing Native-SD Android, it shows only 410 MB.
Boni08 said:
Updating again...
After installing the Native-SD Android, the device shows 410 MB.
Here I found a possible explanation:
"NOTE2: You do NOT need to flash a Stock Rom before starting this, a Custom Rom will be fine as long as you have HardSPL 2.08 and a 576 RAM compatable Radio"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=893948
So, it was showing 576 MB after update the radio and using WM.
After installing Native-SD Android, it shows only 410 MB.
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same for everyone.
I'm thinking about getting an HD2 in the near future due to its hackability. I saw that there is the global HD2 (HTC branded), TMO branded, and the US Cellular one. Is there a difference? I saw a huge price difference on eBay. If so which one is best?
It depends if you want 3G with your carrier.. Each HD2 has a different 3G band so make sure that if and when you do get one that its compatible with your carriers 3G or else be stuck with EDGE
And the Tmobile US HD2 has a 1G nand while the others have 512MB.. So the Tmo HD2 has more memory, but for now its only taken advantage of with Windows Mobile 6.5... MAGLDR had to stay compatible with all the HD2 models so it only uses 512MB and then thats available to Android/WP7.. Software wise the Tmobile HD2 can not use radio firmwares that have .51 since those are for the other international Versions and using any of those radios will brick your phone and just be an expensive pile of plastic an metal
Difference between all of them
Memory (nand)
3G Frequency Bands
And in some cases Build Quality
hakuchi18v said:
It depends if you want 3G with your carrier.. Each HD2 has a different 3G band so make sure that if and when you do get one that its compatible with your carriers 3G or else be stuck with EDGE
And the Tmobile US HD2 has a 1G nand while the others have 512MB.. So the Tmo HD2 has more memory, but for now its only taken advantage of with Windows Mobile 6.5... MAGLDR had to stay compatible with all the HD2 models so it only uses 512MB and then thats available to Android/WP7.. Software wise the Tmobile HD2 can not use radio firmwares that have .51 since those are for the other international Versions and using any of those radios will brick your phone and just be an expensive pile of plastic an metal
Difference between all of them
Memory (nand)
3G Frequency Bands
And in some cases Build Quality
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Let iterate some here.
The International version has 512MB of flash memory (NAND memory) and 448MB of RAM.
The T-Mobile US version has 1024 MB of flash memory (NAND memory) and 576MB of RAM.
The T-Mobile (TMOUS) HD2 can not be flashed with a 2.04.50.xx, 2.5.50.xx, or any x.xx.51.xx radio version or youcwill brick it.
As for 3G you are correct in that part, but only the T-Mobile US HD2 and the Telstra T9193 HD2 (Australian HD2) are victims to not being whale to use 3G with every carrier.
MAGLDR was made compatible with the T-Mobile HD2 this making it sort of the same as a 3.14 Win Mo ROM that once combined with a 2.05.50.02 radio or a 2.15.50.14 radio it unlocks the extra 128MB of RAM in a international HD2.
Thanks for the replies. I really don't care about 3G bands here in the US (will mostly be using my HTC Incredible) and will probably use it for wifi only, but I do go to China a few times a year so I have a local sim card. I think that would make it best if I got the international version, right?
So MAGLDR is a bootloader that allows you to use Android and WP7 right? I'm not sure if I'm clear on what happens: Even though the TMOUS version has bigger NAND and more RAM the NAND can't be used in other OSs, just WM6, and the 128 MB ram in the International version can be unlocked?
Thanks for helping a noob
pianoplayer said:
Thanks for the replies. I really don't care about 3G bands here in the US (will mostly be using my HTC Incredible) and will probably use it for wifi only, but I do go to China a few times a year so I have a local sim card. I think that would make it best if I got the international version, right?
So MAGLDR is a bootloader that allows you to use Android and WP7 right? I'm not sure if I'm clear on what happens: Even though the TMOUS version has bigger NAND and more RAM the NAND can't be used in other OSs, just WM6, and the 128 MB ram in the International version can be unlocked?
Thanks for helping a noob
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Yes you are right about MAGLDR it is a bootloader that allows you to boot Android or WP7 from NAND. The way MAGLDR works is it runs after the original bootloader of the HD2 so you don't lose it. MAGLDR is flashed just like a ROM and is stored in the ROM partition of the NAND memory. But MAGLDR is more than just a bootloader though. If you have not already checked it out, click on my guide linked in my sig. I give a total break down of MAGLDR and all of it's options.
If you install a NAND Android ROM or WP7 using MAGLDR it is in the NAND memory and Windows Mobile is gone. When you power on the HD2 you will see MAGLDRCfor a couple of secounds and then your ROM boots.
There is also another bootloader that is just for Android ROMs on HD2 call Cedesmiths (L]little (K)kernel or cLK that allows you to use ADB fastboot commands. Unlike MAGLDR with cLK you can charge your HD2 while it is turned off. You can actually us ROM manager with it, and PPP. Using cLK your HD2 boots striaght to the Android ROM just like a native Android device, you do not see the bootloader like you do with MAGLDR. the cLK has made the HD2 as close to a native Android device as it can be.
hakuchi18v said:
MAGLDR had to stay compatible with all the HD2 models so it only uses 512MB and then thats available to Android/WP7.
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Let me make a correction here. You can use all of the NAND on a TMOUS Android ROM and not just 512, that's why you can flash DHD ROMs without having to have sd ext stuff on a TMOUS HD2 but not on a euro HD2, because it has more NAND.
WP7 is the only thing that basically treats your phone as if it only has 512 NAND, so for Android NAND the TMOUS HD2 is actually better.
Also tmous is ~1mm taller...
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Hello!
I have looked my way through every forum I could on the subject but cannot find my answer. I'm not sure If this is posted in the right section either. Anyways here's my problem.
I am trying to install WP7(mango) on my HTC HD2. Its SPL version is 3.03.0000. SO I know I need to use HSPL4.
The problem is that I need to flash a new radio which supports 576 MB. Right????
Also, Is there a certain MAGLDR I need to use for SPL 3.03?
Thanks for your help!
L4zyBear said:
Hello!
I have looked my way through every forum I could on the subject but cannot find my answer. I'm not sure If this is posted in the right section either. Anyways here's my problem.
I am trying to install WP7(mango) on my HTC HD2. Its SPL version is 3.03.0000. SO I know I need to use HSPL4.
The problem is that I need to flash a new radio which supports 576 MB. Right???? I'm following this guide which is fairly old
Also, Is there a certain MAGLDR I need to use for SPL 3.03?
Thanks for your help!
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The radio version matters on the regional specs (U.S., Europe, Asia, SA, etc) of your phone not how much memory although only the U.S. version has 1gb others have 576. Regardless, WP7 only recognizes 576mb no matter which version.
There is radio thread in the rom development forum, I think, and also one here in general q&a, too.
As for HSPL, only v2.08 works for installing WP7 on the HD2. You will see what you need in any of the WP7 rom threads. v3.03 will not work.
See tutorial links in my signature.
So radio doesnt matter, but I need HSPL v2.08. I'm just going to assume I dont need a certain version of MAGLDR?
L4zyBear said:
So radio doesnt matter, but I need HSPL v2.08. I'm just going to assume I dont need a certain version of MAGLDR?
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The radio does matter. Like I said, the hardware radio driver depends on your phone's region specs. If you have a European HD2, more than likely you'll have the correct driver but may need
to be updated to the latest European/carrier version. Look in the radio threads for any current version for your phone version and carrier.
There is only one version of Magdlr...2.something, I think.
Well I got everything I need now. Except the ROM because the link is broke. oh well.
L4zyBear said:
Well I got everything I need now. Except the ROM because the link is broke. oh well.
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which rom?
It was the back to the future ROM. I'd link it but Im not allowed.
L4zyBear said:
It was the back to the future ROM. I'd link it but Im not allowed.
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see the link in my signature for the base flash for v2.1. bttf installation takes a while and is a little complex. be sure to read alll posts by yukixda and also the sp1 companion thread.
hjhjhj said:
...U.S. version has 1gb others have 576. Regardless, WP7 only recognizes 576mb no matter which version....
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wrong...
US HD2 has 1GB NAND Flash memory vs EU HD2's 512 MB NAND Flash memory...both model has physically 576 MB RAM, but the EU model limited to 448 MB RAM by HTC for certain purposes. With the correct radio roms (with .50. in the version number) and HSPL, it can be allowed to 576 MB...
pappt said:
wrong...
US HD2 has 1GB NAND Flash memory vs EU HD2's 512 MB NAND Flash memory...both model has physically 576 MB RAM, but the EU model limited to 448 MB RAM by HTC for certain purposes. With the correct radio roms (with .50. in the version number) and HSPL, it can be allowed to 576 MB...
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Well, only HSPL 2.08 is usable to flash WP7 as well as Android. Besides, 576 is moot since WP7 consolidates RAM and SD for total system memory. WP7 is unusable without an SD card.
Use HSPL4 to install HSPL 3.03 then go on use it install HSPL 2.08, MAGLDR could only on HSPL 2.08