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GPRS is ok, but 3G won't let me online!

Hi,
I have searched high and low and probably not well enough, but I couldn't take it anymore. I'm having trouble getting connected when I'm on 3G. It won't let me go online. As soon as I move and I get a GPRS connection, it's all good. But the moment it shows me the 3G sign in the notification bar, internet stops working.
It used to work fine and I even managed to get it to work once for a couple of minutes orso. But it keeps happening. Even after hard reset, I can't get past google signup when it's showing 3G. But when it's showing GPRS, it does work.
Just did it again > If I "use 2G networks only", wait and disable it again. My connection goes dead for a second, but then pops up and everthing works fine untill the screen goes off. It seems it doesn't always work when I do this.
I'm on JF1.31 rc30 and dutch T-mobile with WnW 384 / 64 Kb/s unlimited data.

By "hard reset" did you remove the battery? That worked for me.

djind said:
I'm on JF1.31 rc30 and dutch T-mobile with WnW 384 / 64 Kb/s unlimited data.
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If you're across the pond, don't you need RC8? That may be the problem there... Also, I can't say from personal experience, but from what I understand about the difference of 3G there from 3G here is that we use 1700mhz down/2100mhz up while you use 2100mhz for both down and up. I've seen posts where people have said they've had 3G over there but I can't say for sure. I believe it can though, it might be the apn differences between RC8 and RC30.
Also, look in the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466174 for the latest JesusFreke RC8 if you do need it.

dmwOtis said:
By "hard reset" did you remove the battery? That worked for me.
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I wiped all data with alt+w and reinstalled JF's rom and after your post, that too. Still won't let me connect when 3g is flashing. gprs works fine..
ipaqkiller said:
If you're across the pond, don't you need RC8? That may be the problem there... Also, I can't say from personal experience, but from what I understand about the difference of 3G there from 3G here is that we use 1700mhz down/2100mhz up while you use 2100mhz for both down and up. I've seen posts where people have said they've had 3G over there but I can't say for sure. I believe it can though, it might be the apn differences between RC8 and RC30.
Also, look in the thread at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466174 for the latest JesusFreke RC8 if you do need it.
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The thing is I have watched youtube vids with it earlier (through 3g). And I have never installed the RC8 version.
Ama try and get the rc30 1.30 and see what happends.. /edit:Same for 1.30.. no 3g connection
Also with RC8, on 3G can't connect. Can't even sign in on my gmail account to activate the damn thing.. Waiting to get a gprs signal to sign in

ipaqkiller said:
If you're across the pond, don't you need RC8? That may be the problem there... Also, I can't say from personal experience, but from what I understand about the difference of 3G there from 3G here is that we use 1700mhz down/2100mhz up while you use 2100mhz for both down and up. I've seen posts where people have said they've had 3G over there but I can't say for sure. I believe it can though, it might be the apn differences between RC8 and RC30.
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I've a US G1 with stock RC30 (can't be bothered to root it yet) and it works fine in the UK over 3G.
Regards,
Dave

djind said:
Also with RC8, on 3G can't connect. Can't even sign in on my gmail account to activate the damn thing.. Waiting to get a gprs signal to sign in
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Turn of 3G connections to force it to GPRS so you'll at least be able to sign in.
Regards,
Dave

I have no idea how or when, but on my 20th or so try to log in, it did. I think it was on GPRS, but I'm not sure. But after that it went all the way. 3G was working again. All of that on the RC8 version. Maybe google had problems or smt?
So I guess thnx ipaqkiller
foxmeister said:
Turn of 3G connections to force it to GPRS so you'll at least be able to sign in.
Regards,
Dave
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How is that possible when I need to log in for the first time? Maybe I'll need it for the next time I get caught up in this mess.

De-activating 3G

Since it seems as though the Wi-fi periodically just shuts down for some reason and I don't notice, thus spending so much money on 3G which is so slow, how do I shut it down?
(Just wondering...what is the point of 3G and all the other HDSMA and all that stuff) Oh and are there any of the other connections that may require cash? Or are they important for some reason...like GSM.
EDIT: Wait...is 3G required for the phone to function? If so, how do I avoid wasting money on 3G for other things like surfing the internet...using the youtube panel...

No, u can disable it with a program called noData

Will the lack of 3G affect anything? Because...I spent over a whooping $100 on some Mobile Data...which basically makes up 95% of my entire phone bill.
EDIT: Wait was that "no" for whether the 3G was vital for anything? Anyway I have noData and I just disabled everything yet at the top there is still the symbol of a connection. It says:
3G M1-3GSM
ActiveSync Connected

Disabling gprs will not affect any programs on your phone, and with noData you can choose witch connections you want to block. (example: gprs internet, gprs push,..)

i disabled everything in nodata and i do not have any costs because the phone cannot establish a connection
i get the 3g symbol but i dont care about it

I deactivated everything and yet I am still able to get into the Opera browser...and wi-fi is off...

Skurai123 said:
I deactivated everything and yet I am still able to get into the Opera browser...and wi-fi is off...
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Get into but not opening page I assume?

Yes, I can still get into the opening page.

stock opening page is at x1... so type sth.. http://... :]

Huh? Anyway, yes I can view sites on Opera for some reason despite de-activating everything.

Skurai123 said:
Yes, I can still get into the opening page.
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Opening page is normal, it doesn't connect to display this...

Skurai123 said:
Since it seems as though the Wi-fi periodically just shuts down for some reason and I don't notice, thus spending so much money on 3G which is so slow, how do I shut it down?
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I shut it down in settings --> phone --> network and selected only GSM band. This will take away the 3G connection still leaving GPRS connection available. However, this implies installing no other software AND consuming less power (am I wrong on this latter point?!)
Skurai123 said:
(Just wondering...what is the point of 3G and all the other HDSMA and all that stuff) Oh and are there any of the other connections that may require cash? Or are they important for some reason...like GSM.
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You always get GPRS connection. As far as I know, you can not disable it on this phone without installing some software
Skurai123 said:
EDIT: Wait...is 3G required for the phone to function? If so, how do I avoid wasting money on 3G for other things like surfing the internet...using the youtube panel...
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No, it is not required. It is required for fast internet connection and videocall.

doministry said:
Opening page is normal, it doesn't connect to display this...
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Okay...not just the opening page. I tried going into gameFAQs and it worked.

The 3G symbol appears at the top though, meaning there is an available network but it is not connected. This disappears completely when I activate Opera...so how do I determine that 3G is really off?

Skurai123 said:
Will the lack of 3G affect anything? Because...I spent over a whooping $100 on some Mobile Data...which basically makes up 95% of my entire phone bill.
EDIT: Wait was that "no" for whether the 3G was vital for anything? Anyway I have noData and I just disabled everything yet at the top there is still the symbol of a connection. It says:
3G M1-3GSM
ActiveSync Connected
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Thats a lot of money u have spent
Well its not that bad internet through 3g but if you make a plan with your provider and if your provider allows voip you can also make calls through fring or skype from your phone ...
Cheers

AT&T Settings for HD2?

Hello, I am about to soon get my new HD2 and wondered if there were any AT&T cabs that will automatically update all the network settings, MMS, text, etc for the phone or if there is a resource for setting all these net settings up?
Also, while I have you what has your experience been on AT&T with your new HD2's? How is your internet speed been without 3G?

Anybody? I just ordered with Clove, and use ATT. I can tolerate Edge, but would like to know what others think.

Funk2641 said:
Anybody? I just ordered with Clove, and use ATT. I can tolerate Edge, but would like to know what others think.
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Funk2641
I just got my HD2 on Tuesday. It will automatically detect AT&T network and auto configure.

willwwa said:
Funk2641
I just got my HD2 on Tuesday. It will automatically detect AT&T network and auto configure.
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Thanks sir! Can't wait to get mine!

I've found it to be very fast on ATT. I have gotten around 180kbps download using the iphone speed test site but it loads pages so quick! And as stated it will auto configure. Only problem I had was that youtube failed to work on wifi so I had to delete the wap.cingular proxy in the registry for youtube.

You are telling me that youtube worked at all with Edge speeds? I was thinking youtube would be out for this phone on AT&T without 3G...
mike91t said:
I've found it to be very fast on ATT. I have gotten around 180kbps download using the iphone speed test site but it loads pages so quick! And as stated it will auto configure. Only problem I had was that youtube failed to work on wifi so I had to delete the wap.cingular proxy in the registry for youtube.
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Does that include text, mms and wap settings alike?
willwwa said:
Funk2641
I just got my HD2 on Tuesday. It will automatically detect AT&T network and auto configure.
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Free Man said:
You are telling me that youtube worked at all with Edge speeds? I was thinking youtube would be out for this phone on AT&T without 3G...
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Should work just fine, just on edge speeds. Besides, you can always pause it and wait a minute or two for it to download a bit ahead.

How are those on AT&T finding the Edge and GSM reception levels?

I had the HD and used it on ATT with EDGE only. It worked just fine. Just got the HD2 in Bangkok and cant wait to get back Stateside and see how she works.

How about the MMS settings on at&t. Did it auto config for that too? Have you sent or received any mms's on it yet with at&t? Thanks.

i have had the phone working on ATT in the states for 3 4 weeks .....everything works fine MMS SMS email ..you tube is slow ......but like others ...occasinaly missed calls , text get held up and the keyboard takes a lot of time to get use to ....i mean alot ....coming from iphone

mike91t said:
I've found it to be very fast on ATT. I have gotten around 180kbps download using the iphone speed test site but it loads pages so quick! And as stated it will auto configure. Only problem I had was that youtube failed to work on wifi so I had to delete the wap.cingular proxy in the registry for youtube.
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Where did you delete? I did the normal registry delete wap.cingular where I have deleted in the past to make my touch pro 2 youtube work and now I just get an error that says youtube connection failed, please try again?? Am I missing something? I can see the video listings thou.
EDIT: Did a hard reset. Seems to be working now. after the reg edit, I had to watch the video on EDGE first then try to watch it on wifi. I was trying wifi first with zero results. Weird.

Mine works fine on AT&T. I use MIFI.

mike91t said:
I've found it to be very fast on ATT. I have gotten around 180kbps download using the iphone speed test site but it loads pages so quick! And as stated it will auto configure. Only problem I had was that youtube failed to work on wifi so I had to delete the wap.cingular proxy in the registry for youtube.
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I would like to start taking advantage of youtube, running on ATT's US network. It seems difficult to download these videos without having errors. Could someone be more specific as to, how to: "delete the wap.cingular proxy in the registry for youtube", and will this really solve the problem. Thank you in advance for the advice.

here is the quote on how to fix it.....
Youtube wifi fix:
Got if fixed IF YOU'RE ON at&t: for those of you on at&t in the US, i finally got the YouTube app in Dutty's 2.1 ROM to work. Yeah!!! i used a registry editor and removed the value "wireless.cingular.com:80" from the Proxy setting under the key HKLM\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{EF097F4C-DC4B-4c98-8FF6-AEF805DC0E8E}\HTTP-{436eF144-B4FB-4863-A041-8F905A62C572}. next, i fired up the YouTube app and it connected almost instantly. i waited for 3 minutes, soft reset and tried again to make sure the settings are not reset automatically: the settings survived and YouTube connected almost instantly. since i have 2 Touch HD's (one an EDGE only the other 850 3G) that had the problem, i fired up my second one, deleted the same key and it connected without issue. performed the soft reset and it worked as well

I installed the cab file. MMS and internet seems to be working. But some things like E-mail and Google Maps seem to not work. What do I need to do?

mike91t said:
I've found it to be very fast on ATT. I have gotten around 180kbps download using the iphone speed test site but it loads pages so quick! And as stated it will auto configure. Only problem I had was that youtube failed to work on wifi so I had to delete the wap.cingular proxy in the registry for youtube.
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do I need a data plan to connect online with AT&T. since its already on EDGE, i was thinking i dont need to purchase a data plan. also do i neet it for MMS, or just a MMS and SMS texting plan should be good?

Wifi calling

Anyone try out wifi calling/messaging yet? I just sent an mms and the "G" appeared even though the cell signal is off and it's supposed to be through wifi. It took longer than when I'm on 3G too...
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i think the mms goes through a diff system when get home ill try it

I believe MMS always goes through cellular data.
This is to prevent an exploit of sending free messages over Wi-fi

funkadesi said:
I believe MMS always goes through cellular data.
This is to prevent an exploit of sending free messages over Wi-fi
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exactlly what he said lol

Ah great to know thanks
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well since this thread IS called wifi calling... id like to post that it doesnt work for me OR my friend who also lives close to me and got the update...
first let me state that ive tried with root and with out root
im on unlimited everything plan
ive checkd my wifi and it works just fine
i have wpa-psk encryption on my wifi
and i CAN make calls on cellular network
so now thats out there first thing i get is a popup saying do you want to register?
if i click yes then it just closes and sends me to the home screen
i open it again and it says wifi calling: enabling, for like a minute or two then it says connection error W006.15 isp or T-mobile Network Error
any one else get that?

V1R3Z said:
well since this thread IS called wifi calling... id like to post that it doesnt work for me OR my friend who also lives close to me and got the update...
first let me state that ive tried with root and with out root
im on unlimited everything plan
ive checkd my wifi and it works just fine
i have wpa-psk encryption on my wifi
and i CAN make calls on cellular network
so now thats out there first thing i get is a popup saying do you want to register?
if i click yes then it just closes and sends me to the home screen
i open it again and it says wifi calling: enabling, for like a minute or two then it says connection error W006.15 isp or T-mobile Network Error
any one else get that?
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Something came up for crackberry users that stopped them from using UMA and since WIFI calling hits the same servers as UMA, i.e... they are the same thing, I suspect that your issue might be the same as what they were having. Your ISP's DNS is blocking the service. If you can change your DNS settings to OpenDNS.com and give it another try. This may not fix your issue, but I know it did for a whole lot of crackberry users.

V1R3Z said:
well since this thread IS called wifi calling... id like to post that it doesnt work for me OR my friend who also lives close to me and got the update...
first let me state that ive tried with root and with out root
im on unlimited everything plan
ive checkd my wifi and it works just fine
i have wpa-psk encryption on my wifi
and i CAN make calls on cellular network
so now thats out there first thing i get is a popup saying do you want to register?
if i click yes then it just closes and sends me to the home screen
i open it again and it says wifi calling: enabling, for like a minute or two then it says connection error W006.15 isp or T-mobile Network Error
any one else get that?
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I get the same error message. Just got off the phone with a tmo rep and she said that there's a signal outage(?) around Atlanta and that's why I can't get ANY cellular connection whatsoever. But I remain skeptical, as my friends on TMO are having no problems and the "outage" just so happened to affect me right after the OTA was installed. My fingers are crossed that everything gets fixed though.

Mines works fine, it depends on what kind of network your on. On my campus it would not work, but when I got to my gf apt it worked perfectly. So check the wifi settings that you haveto make sure there isn't a firewall or something else set up.
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Mine works on my college campus great. I have terrible coverage here. This may be a stupid question but, it only uses minutes when I'm actually calling someone right? Not however long it is enabled? I'm only asking because I'm tired of getting screwed over in ways that I logically shouldn't be.

Yea it only uses minutes when you are calling. Also I don't know what college you go but I go to umiami, so our networks are really strict with regard to using them for gaming or any kind of tethering. So I'm guessing they haven't allowed us access to do that here. But on any other networks like a home network it works perfect.
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I go to Westfield State in MA. I had to get my phone registered on the resnet net work to use the wifi. Can you use wifi at all at school with your phone?
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Crap. I just sorted out my issues with things draining the battery and now Wifi calling is running rampant. It stays running in the foreground even when it is turned off and logcat shows that it is constantly active even when the phone is asleep. Is anyone else seeing anything like this?

well i would like to know why its wifi calling if tmobile still use the mins from your plan thats like stealling it helps tmo they use less data but still charge us for it

Yea genius on their part...even still its not like they're not doing anything. It its still being runs through their network just not through their towers.
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JRG1392 said:
Yea genius on their part...even still its not like they're not doing anything. It its still being runs through their network just not through their towers.
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yea, what he said. Cellular towers are like a gateway to the Tmobile internet. The still pay for all the fiber and backhaul that gets your calls and data where ever it is that you want them to go.

i just updated and i opened up wifi calling and configured it. i dont understand how its wifi calling when it still uses our minutes? whats the point of having it then? what benefit is there to having this app?

Yea we can but we are literally forced to just web browse lol
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T-mobile has had the "charging for minutes via wifi" policy now for YEARS going back to the first Blackberrys that supported UMA. Minutes were deducted unless a customer paid for the @home service per month. You can complain all you want, but if you consider the other carriers and their options---T-Mobile does NOT charge for HSPA+ (4G) access while other carriers do, and some charge even if there isn't 4G in that city just based on the phone! Wifi calling can also prevent you from incurring roaming charges by allowing you to make calls from almost anywhere you can get wifi access a feature that other providers just don't have. T-Mobile gives more minutes for less money, offers more data download than other carriers, and offers some truly awesome features that others just can't compare to.

Although WiFi calling uses up our plans minutes, if we have unlimted weekend minutes, use it on the weekends, is it free or does it take away from the anytime minutes?

[Q] Very slow data speed during a phone call

I am on the stock ROM (JDQ39B) on Vodafone Romania and I'm getting 0.02 Mbits while on a phone call. I don't think that's normal. Is anyone else having this issue on any other ROM/carrier?

AFAIK it's normal. Data shuts off more or less when you are making a call. Try calling and surfing /downloading while being connected to a wifi network. That should work.
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That does work, but it doesn't help when you're out. I don't think it's normal. It shouldn't happen. There's plenty of bandwidth to accommodate a phone call and a web page. Except I can't even load a web page, while on a phone call. I don't think this has ever happened to me before, on any of my previous phones.

teomor said:
That does work, but it doesn't help when you're out. I don't think it's normal. It shouldn't happen. There's plenty of bandwidth to accommodate a phone call and a web page. Except I can't even load a web page, while on a phone call. I don't think this has ever happened to me before, on any of my previous phones.
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depend on how your network set up is. In the U.S, LTE is shut off while on call, phone call will not work with LTE on, your network might be doing the same thing. check other smart phone to see if they have the same problem.

Yeah, I thought it might have something to do with the carrier, but I'm not talking about LTE. I'm talking plain old 3G (full signal). I can't even load a webpage, or access anything on Google Play.

teomor said:
Yeah, I thought it might have something to do with the carrier, but I'm not talking about LTE. I'm talking plain old 3G (full signal). I can't even load a webpage, or access anything on Google Play.
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It is like the old days, when we dive into the NET nobody could call us
It depends on the provider i guess...

So, is there anyone with a D802 International, that can call and surf at the same time, on a 3G connection?