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Is anyone considering the Mytouch HD?

I know a lot of remorse periods are coming to an end. Is anyone considering returning their g2 and getting the Mytouch HD once its released??
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Heck naw. I need my keyboard and stock android.
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Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol

sino8r said:
Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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I agree the G2 looks way better and the genius button is pretty dumb.

kylez64 said:
I agree the G2 looks way better and the genius button is pretty dumb.
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The genius button isn't too bad once it remapped to search button. Then you can map a long press to another app like a led flashlight or task manager. Basically, its the same guts as the G2 only no kb and add a ffc. It would a stupid upgrade from a G2. Waste of money, imo.

sino8r said:
Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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Exactly...

sino8r said:
The genius button isn't too bad once it remapped to search button. Then you can map a long press to another app like a led flashlight or task manager. Basically, its the same guts as the G2 only no kb and add a ffc. It would a stupid upgrade from a G2. Waste of money, imo.
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No it does not have the same guts as the G2. It features the 1Ghz MSM8255 chip which is substantially faster than the G2's MSM7230. Its not the same chip overclocked to 1Ghz; its an entirely different chip. Its the same one found in the Desire HD.
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mftek said:
I know a lot of remorse periods are coming to an end. Is anyone considering returning their g2 and getting the Mytouch HD once its released??
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heck no. having played with my wife's MT Slide, im not impressed with the plasticy feel of the phone or the terrible sense UI. the only thing this new mytouch has going for it is a bigger screen. the front camera is useless unless you know others with a front camera (i dont).

I personally, am going to check out the new mytouch. When reviewed by engadget, the build quality was said to be very solid, with the same metal accents the g2 has. The front facing camera would be great for chatting with my daughter in georgia, I rarely use the keyboard on my g2(I was using my nexus one previously), and as soon as it's rooted I'll be switching to vanilla android with launcherpro anyways.
So what's the big deal? I don't buy a device for what it does, but rather for what it CAN DO.
Had I known about the new mytouch sooner, I would have waited. Now my 14 days are up and I'll have to sell/trade my g2.
As a side note: if anyone is going to be buying the g2 as new service or as an upgrade, get in touch with me. Maybe we can work something out where you get the new mytouch instead and I give you my flawless g2 and pay the difference.

Won't be trading mine. This g2 is hot. Haha. the damn thing is fast as hell at 800mhz. I played with the droid x and droid 2. The speed of the g2 eats them alive and I think those are 1ghz phones? I could be wrong
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The Great NY said:
Won't be trading mine. This g2 is hot. Haha. the damn thing is fast as hell at 800mhz. I played with the droid x and droid 2. The speed of the g2 eats them alive and I think those are 1ghz phones? I could be wrong
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Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.

I will be getting one to go along with my G2. I've actually held the new MyTouch and it is not plastic or cheaply built. I was actually pleasantly surprised at how nice it was, I just wish there was no Genius button as well.
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InGeNeTiCs said:
Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
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Haha...funny u should mention cars. I'm actually a builder and a tuner..lol. so I know exactly what u mean
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If the MyTouch is the North American version of the HD, I would suspect the G2 would be an overall better performer. Here is my reasoning, take it how you will:
The 1ghz scorpion that the Desire HD uses has a less powerful GPU than the 800 mhz processor the G2 and Desire Z use. Additionally, the g2 has a larger battery than the Desire HD despite the HD's larger screen ( 1,300mAh battery on G2 vsthe Desire HD features a 1230mAh ) which could suggest the need for more power under the hood despite lower clock speed.
Many have suggested that the 800mghz is deliberately underlocked and the fact that there is now an OC that doesnt require whole new kernel would suggest that this is true.
My personal take: going on pure processing specs alone (and assuming the MyTouch HD/4g is the same as the Desire HD under the hood) then the g2 is the clear winner.
Going on product design, it really depends on whether you want an FFC or a hardware keyboard.
Going on aesthetics i think the g2 wins - even if the MyTouch build quality is high, it still has a toylike look.
I suspect at the end of the day, out of the box the g2 runs faster w/ a better battery life given stock android, faster gpu, and smaller screen. It remains to be seen what root will do to these two devices and how the current g2 OC affects battery life.
I also suspect that if the g2 and mytouch ere to get gingerbread (unconfirmed), it would come slightly faster to the g2 OTA given that sense would not have to be ported.

sino8r said:
Yeah. No way... I had enough of cheap, plasticy phones when I replaced my MyTouch Slide with the G2. The only difference is the FFC (which isn't wide spread enough for me to care about) and the lack of keyboard (not a positive although if you really care.. its a bit thinner). Plus, the bloated, expresso garbage (the worst form of sense ui, ever). Not a good choice unless you're a tweener, lol
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The mytouch4g isn't plastic.

No
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I still have 6 days left and I'm loving the G2 so far that I don't think it'd be worth it to get the MT HD. A lot of my friends have the iPhone 4 and they rarely use the FFC, and I doubt I would too. And coming from a iPhone 3G I'm loving the physical keyboard.
I miss android, the way it handles everything, still remember when one user wrote reboot and we found root back in the G1 days.
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InGeNeTiCs said:
Optimization is key here. If anyone here has done anything with motorsports you know this very well. All the aftermarket parts in the world won't make you go faster without the proper tune. 1ghz means nothing if the code doesn't use it properly. This is why the g2 runs so well. The right hardware, coupled with a vanilla OS with no customizations.
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Not really...
A G2 running at 1Ghz will out-perform a G2 running at stock 800mhz 100% of the time (on CPU-bound operations), on 100% of devices. There is no hand-tuning for one particular speed.
Don't give HTC this much credit. All they do is take ASOP code and code in their little hacks to lock down the device. In the grand scheme of things, they know very little about tuning an OS to a particular piece of hardware.

HamNCheese said:
Not really...
A G2 running at 1Ghz will out-perform a G2 running at stock 800mhz 100% of the time (on CPU-bound operations), on 100% of devices. There is no hand-tuning for one particular speed.
Don't give HTC this much credit. All they do is take ASOP code and code in their little hacks to lock down the device. In the grand scheme of things, they know very little about tuning an OS to a particular piece of hardware.
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Completely agree. Take a look at this site, if you think HTC has a clue about drivers and tuning.
http://htcclassaction.org/

ericc191 said:
Completely agree. Take a look at this site, if you think HTC has a clue about drivers and tuning.
http://htcclassaction.org/
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lol
HTC builds their devices to the specs of their customers (mainly carriers), if their customers don't want to dig deep in their pockets for HTC to build the proper drivers, HTC isn't going to waste resources on something their customers has not asked for.

[Q] MyTouch 4g CPU and GPU

Hey XDA,
I currently have a MyTouch 3g 32B. Yeah I know, ancient, right? I'm currently looking to upgrade to either a T-mobile MyTouch 4g or a T-mobile G2 (aka Desire Z).
I'm into custom ROMs, radios, hboots, SPLs, kernels, you guys know the drill. I'm pretty dedicated to Cyanogenmod, and I've noticed that they only support the G2 right now, I haven't really heard anything about the MyTouch and CM. So this gives the G2 a big advantage over the MyTouch.
Keyboard doesn't matter. The front facing camera gives the MyTouch a little bit of an edge. I'm leaning towards G2 because of modding.
This isn't really a versus thread, as I have almost all the info I want from gsmarena.com. But I'm having a hard time comparing the CPU and GPU in the two phones. Not much turns up on Google. Obviously the speeds are different, but that doesn't matter much as I'll be overclocking it.
So which phone has a better CPU/GPU? I've heard the G2's GPU is currently the best, not sure how true that is. I will be using the phone for emulators.
The question: what does XDA think of the CPUs/GPUs? Can anyone give me the model of GPU the phones use?
Thanks!
Nick
P.S. Cross-posted to G2 general.

I had the G2 and I can tell you 100% this phone is hands down better. CM will come to this device soon as well. Don't settle for a phone based on what it's development is at in a given time. Look at what is better in terms of hardware and over all device specs. With 786 mb of RAM and FFC and perm root this MT4G nails the coffin on the heavy loose dangling hinged G2.
A good developer is going to be receiving his MT4G really soon to pick up the CM port for our MT4G.

I also love the MT4G and there WILL be many roms on it just look in the general discussion section where they have raised money to buy phones for devs to allow them to make roms. but about the G2 hinge problem just check it at the store before you buy it (hold it upside down ...) my friend did this and he got 1 with a very sturdy hinge. As to your gpu/cpu I don't know but I think the CPU is the same (don't take my word for it though).

CPU =MSM8x55 at 1Ghz
GPU = Adreno 205
The MSM7x30, MSM8x55, and the MSM8x50a all use a 45nm process. The speeds are 800Mhz, 1Ghz, and 1.3Ghz respectively.
The Adreno 205 is a significant performance enhancement from the Adreno 200 found in the first gen snapdragon processors found in the Nexus One, etc.
The MT4G MSM8x55 is likely an o/c'd version of the MSM7x30 as alot of references to MSM7x30 are made in build.prop and throughout the rest of the OS. Same situation probably from the MSM8x55 to the MSM8x50a. Intel does this with their cpu's all the time. O/C, stamp a different model number on it, and sell it at a premium price.
MSM = Mobile Station Modem
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The MT4G MSM8x55 is likely an o/c'd version of the MSM7x30 as alot of references to MSM7x30 are made in build.prop and throughout the rest of the OS. Same situation probably from the MSM8x55 to the MSM8x50a. Intel does this with their cpu's all the time. O/C, stamp a different model number on it, and sell it at a premium price.
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Thanks I was looking for a post like this. So basically what the 4g has over the G2 is the FFC and more RAM? I kind of like the look of the G2, it's more.. professional looking? I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the posts so far guys!

nandryshak said:
Thanks I was looking for a post like this. So basically what the 4g has over the G2 is the FFC and more RAM? I kind of like the look of the G2, it's more.. professional looking? I'm not sure yet. Thanks for the posts so far guys!
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To each his own. I personally had 2 g2's and ended up sending them both back for random reboots and loose hinges. The reboots were fixed with the ota and custom roms I think but that hinge made me almost drop the phone several times and was going to do nothing but get worse over time. And it seemed to loosen up very quickly. Just FYI.
My MyGlacier 4G MINE!!!

I too owned the G2 and it was a great device. It was smoother than the 4g but I'm sure that's due to the fact that it doesn't have a skin on top #cough cough# sense LOL
... I really miss the hinge and keyboard... you really can't go wrong with either device but the 4g is cheaper and has more features...
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If you can be patient. I'd imagine a port from CM will be forth coming very soon.
I came from a 32B myself and this phone even with Sense is way better.
I personally like a physical keyboard like my wife's Slide, but her and I both like the MT4G better.
Your choice though.

the mt4g is okay but the g2 is nothing to sneeze at, sense is nice but stock is better in my opinion, hmmm I wonder which phone will get Gingerbread first if the other gets it at all (officially anyway) you know some things work but most things are broken.

vdub804 said:
the mt4g is okay but the g2 is nothing to sneeze at, sense is nice but stock is better in my opinion, hmmm I wonder which phone will get Gingerbread first if the other gets it at all (officially anyway) you know some things work but most things are broken.
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I heard the reason why the g2 and the mt4g only have about 1gb instead of the 4gb as advertised is because some of that space is being saved up for gingerbread so eventually both devices will get updated
BTW just because the g2 currently can run CM doesn't mean that is superior than the mt4g just wait until they release some roms for this bad boy and will see how much this phone kicks ass even the stock Rom runs great just use LauncherPro instead of mySense no lag whatsoever

I had a G2 for about 2 weeks, and sent it back under the buyers remorse. Basically in stock form I like the G2 better, but felt the mytouch has a bit more longevity to it where it has more ram..that said I dont think you can go wrong with either phone. I am a stock froyo guy over sense or my sense crap but thats just my personal preference.
Running different benchmarks when clocked the same the G2 pulled ahead by a hair on most but I credit that to the mytouch running my sense, in actually using the devices I found the G2 to be smoother as well, but again the whole my sense thing again.
The mytouch line always seemed kinda kiddish to me somehow and it seems that a new model is always on the horizon, not trying to insult anyone that has one, or likes them..hell I have one currently lol, but I just cant shake the feeling that I am using a lesser phone, even though I know I am not.
Side by side I found the G2 to have a better display, colors looked more vivid and eye popping despite the mytouch having a slightly larger screen, the mytouch is slightly washed out looking, but that was only evident to me when they were side by side, using the phone on its own the mytouch is just fine and you dont really notice the colors and stuff when its not in a side by side direct comparison.
I suppose the end result would be whatever one you like better, both are good and the mytouch will have more ROMs for it shortly so that shouldnt really weigh in on your decision.

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Guy wanst my Captivate for his Desire Z...should I do it?

I posted the same on the Captivate forum but would like some input from you guys...
My Captivate locked to Rogers and running Official 2.2 for his Desire Z Unlocked running Official 2.2
Both phones are like new and perfect, though mine comes with the original box.
I don't have a clue about the Desire Z, is it more powerful than the Captivate? How about the Slider mechanic...will it become loose?
Please share some insight on this, I really like the look of the Desire Z.

If a hardware keyboard doesn't greatly excite you, stick with your galaxy s. It's slightly more powerful and has a nicer screen. Desire z has a much higher build quality, but if you don't love it you'll probably regret it.
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Nospin said:
If a hardware keyboard doesn't greatly excite you, stick with your galaxy s. It's slightly more powerful and has a nicer screen. Desire z has a much higher build quality, but if you don't love it you'll probably regret it.
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Cool thanks man. Like I said I just had no clue about the Desire Z. But after looking into HTC devices I think my next phone will have to be one, build quality seems to be unmatched.

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If a hardware keyboard doesn't greatly excite you, stick with your galaxy s. It's slightly more powerful and has a nicer screen. Desire z has a much higher build quality, but if you don't love it you'll probably regret it.
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I would do it in a heartbeat. My friend got his Galaxy S right around the same time I got my Desire Z. Comparing the two, the only thing I would say the Galaxy S has over the DZ is the screen.
DZ is made of metal/aluminum materials versus plastic with the Galaxy. The plastic makes it MUCH lighter but also makes it feel cheap.
As far as power, I would say that the DZ is as powerful, if not more powerful than the Galaxy. Running at stock 800mhz they are about the same. When I OC my phone to 1.2 or 1.5, it runs circles around his.
For me, the keyboard is a must have, and the DZ has one of the best keyboards I have ever used. The Z hinge that everyone complains about, allows for plenty of clearance between the top row of keys and the bottom of the screen, which has been a problem in the past with other slider style phones.
Just my 2 cents.

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I would do it in a heartbeat. My friend got his Galaxy S right around the same time I got my Desire Z. Comparing the two, the only thing I would say the Galaxy S has over the DZ is the screen.
DZ is made of metal/aluminum materials versus plastic with the Galaxy. The plastic makes it MUCH lighter but also makes it feel cheap.
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I know what you are saying but this is the Captivate Galaxy S, the back is Metal. The plastic backing is the other Galaxy S devices...
But yeah I like the design of the HTC, looks nice. I will have to think about this a bit.
Does the Desire Z have Gorilla Glass like the Captivate?

well hold the phone man the fact that the desire z in unlocked is a plus, if your interested in the value of the phone, keep that in mind

yeah I would do it without hesitation. The Desire Z gets better dev support, better manufacturer support, better looks, dedicated camera button and hardware keyboard, it's just an all-around better device.

Buddy the g2 is much better device both hardware and software wise. For anyone saying you should get the captivate please explain to me why? The phone has an outdated slower processor, horrible build quality and its samsung...the worst customer support phone company besides motorola. Seriously the g2 is an amazing device why would you want to go backwards?
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Geez guys, I know we all love our G2s but I disagree. Don't get me wrong, I chose the g2 over the vibrant and don't regret it for a second. I'm going under the assumption that he loves his captivate and was just intrigued by the desire z.
This is all a matter of personal preference. I personally like the htc made sexiness that is the g2, but going on guts alone I think galaxy s still holds slight advantage. Slight. And its samoled screen.
I concur on the avoid samsung rhetoric, just make sure you buy htc next time lol.
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had an epic 4g.. keyword had. my g2 is much nicer, is faster, has little things like.. an led notification (the epic has this but the captivate doesnt), better support.
to this day i still have yet to see a shred of evidence that the galaxy s lineup has gorilla glass... but if you are asking if its as scratch resisent then yes indeed it is

So I ended up keeping the Captivate. I think looking at the 2 in a store brand new, I would go for a Desire Z but the phone was still technically used and I have no idea about the history behind the phone.
I do like the Captivate, but the Desire Z just looks so much better. The only thing I was conserned with was the Sliding mechanic...oh well.
I will buy a HTC next time I get a phone though, the build quality looks amazing and HTC looks like they actually support the device lol
I wish the Desire Z would have been new in box...instant trade. Damn it...now I can't stop thing about this damn phone! Again I just don't know is anything was wrong with it, could have been dropped...or repaired by a 3rd party...who knows.
And I BABY my phones, so knowing mine has always been in a case unless in use I simply could not trade : (
Thanks anyways guys...

Respectable choice op. Believe me the g2 is a wondeful device. I agree with you that buying anything used is always a risk. Although the g2 has great build quality, your right in that you don't know what the original owner might have done to his phone. Have fun with your next htc purchase though. Believe me you won't be dissappointed!
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I've got my G2 and my wife's Vibrant *Same Galaxy S* that I always work with and overall I way prefer my G2... except the Vibrant's screen lol
The G2 feels like a BMW where as the Vibrant feel's like a Hundai
The Vibrant is pretty good with the Voodoo Lag Fix, made it a good bit snappier, but my G2 seems to handle things a little better overall.
The G2 is a lot better on benchmark results, but the Vibrant is a GPU monster. Here is a video I took the other night of comparing the Nenamark scores
Stock G2 -vs- Vibrant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0chEXB_T3Do
Overclocked 1.5ghz G2 -vs- Vibrant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5KqKBsqjmA

theratdude64 said:
I've got my G2 and my wife's Vibrant *Same Galaxy S* that I always work with and overall I way prefer my G2... except the Vibrant's screen lol
The G2 feels like a BMW where as the Vibrant feel's like a Hundai
The Vibrant is pretty good with the Voodoo Lag Fix, made it a good bit snappier, but my G2 seems to handle things a little better overall.
The G2 is a lot better on benchmark results, but the Vibrant is a GPU monster. Here is a video I took the other night of comparing the Nenamark scores
Stock G2 -vs- Vibrant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0chEXB_T3Do
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adreno 205 is quite powerful but i think adreno 220 will eat SGS gpu..just wait for it when it comes out in dual core htc phones. here is a comparison between DZ adreno and SGS PowerVR SGX540
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/3dmarkmobile-gpu-showdown-adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540/

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adreno 205 is quite powerful but i think adreno 220 will eat SGS gpu..just wait for it when it comes out in dual core htc phones. here is a comparison between DZ adreno and SGS PowerVR SGX540
http://androidandme.com/2010/10/news/3dmarkmobile-gpu-showdown-adreno-205-vs-powervr-sgx540/
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That matchup in the link is not really fair. As much as I love my G2 it would get destroyed in a matchup against a SGS phone with similar roms, say both on Froyo. Just look at the Nexus S its scoring 3500+ in quadrant at 1.4ghz with gingerbread, our G2 with say CM7 is scoring just 2500ish at 1.5ghz. The PowerVR sgx540 is just a beast. I don't think the adreno 220 is gonna be better than the next gen sgs gpu unfortunately.
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I know i am a little late here since you made the choice already for now.. but maybe keep this in mind for the future...
I have an sgs Vibrant and my wife has a G2. I have both of them modded with the newest roms and mods.. Even though the g2 puts up a bit higher benchmarks the Vibrant (sgs) defiantly out preforms it. When playing games or even browsing the web with flash enabled, the vibrant seems much smoother... However this could simply come down to preference.. since the 2 phones are in-fact very similar in specs, but the hummingbird in the sgs is a better model in my eyes..
As far as the build quality goes to be honest just because it is made from plastic and much liter doesn't mean it is of lesser quality.... In-fact it feels much more solid than the G2 if you ignore the weight difference, not to mention the G2 feels heavy in my pocket now. i could never go to such a heavy phone ever again..
Lots of people have this crazy thought that Samsung doest support their devices but HTC as well as Motorola have just as many devices that have been left behind (not just with android) or taken a while to update (longer than it took for the sgs line to start getting updates)... The vibrant now has an official update to 2.2 and the time it took was about the norm as far as updates go from release date.. 5 or 6 months only not really that bad..

I did a quadrant advanced benchmark on the Vibrant and I've apparently gotten it to the top of the list too... I'm amazed how large the IO is on it. But processor was a very small part of the bar lol

Should I return and get a G2?

So I got the Samsung Galaxy S 4G on friday and idk what it is but im iffy on it. I like everything about it no complaints but the G2 has been on my eye since it came out. So im asking you all with your own experience with the G2 if i should go return and get one.

Haven't personally used the galaxy S 4g. Is it the same as the previous one, but with a new radio in it basically? Seems to be the case.
The G2 is a great phone and I'm sure you'll obviously get mostly positive reviews in the G2 section, but its up to you really. At this point in time, unfortunately, the G2 is starting to get a bit dated (sad considering it just came out in September), but then again the GS 4G is gonna be shadowed by the newer Galaxy S II devices coming out soon as well all the same. I would put them in the same group really.
The phones are quite different, considering that the G2 is stock android and a keyboard slider, whereas the Galaxy S 4G has a customized TouchWiz UI and no keyboard. Performance is about the same I'm sure, but its really up to your preferences at that point. The GS 4G has a front facing camera, and a slightly faster processor (out of the box that is, you can overclock the G2 just as much), and other than that, not much. The biggest deal is which form factor you like more.
If you plan on rooting your phone and going that route, and that is something that is important to you, maybe you should look and see how the dev communities of each phone suit you. This also means that the stock software differences between the 2 wont really matter because you'll be putting custom ROMs on it anyways then.

If the Vibrant 4g is the same thing as the Vibrant except for the 4g chip, go for the g2. I came from a Vibrant to a g2, and I wish I had done it earlier. The g2 is faster straight out of the box, no stupid lagfixes needed. I was at first concerned about going from a 1ghz chip to an 800, but the g2 blows the Vibrant away, even without overclocking.

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If the Vibrant 4g is the same thing as the Vibrant except for the 4g chip, go for the g2. I came from a Vibrant to a g2, and I wish I had done it earlier. The g2 is faster straight out of the box, no stupid lagfixes needed. I was at first concerned about going from a 1ghz chip to an 800, but the g2 blows the Vibrant away, even without overclocking.
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Yea lol so true but I wouldn't mind having a phone with a bigger screen since I peronally like big screens but that's me. As for the G2 its a fast phone, never shows lag even if you have filled the screen with wigets
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To me the vibrant was light and simple. Great for calls and watching movies and listening to music. I do a lot more on my G2. Emails, more texting... I just feel more productive with a keyboard.

Cheeze[iT] said:
To me the vibrant was light and simple. Great for calls and watching movies and listening to music. I do a lot more on my G2. Emails, more texting... I just feel more productive with a keyboard.
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I feel yea. I do some of my essays on my phone. (Document to go app)
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G2 all the way baby. Screw that galaxy bull****. Screen size diff ain't that big a deal hombre.
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GhostZini said:
G2 all the way baby. Screw that galaxy bull****. Screen size diff ain't that big a deal hombre.
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Word... To be honest, you really don't notice much of a difference between the 2 screen sizes. Watching Inception on 4 inches vs 3.7 is not going to show you what you were missing out on. It's still a tiny screen for movies. The difference with the screen will be the LCD vs SAMOLED. Its nice, but not worth everything else the G2 has, from amazing hardware, software and dev support to the camera flash and slide out keyboard.
Unless you do some serious video chatting, I'd get a G2 and wait to majorly upgrade in 6 months or so when we have a bunch of dual cores on the market.

Trust me, go with the galaxy s, once you root it you will love it. It has a faster processor than the g2, a bigger screen, a super amoled display, and is thinner and more durable. I felt the same way you feel at first about my galaxy s, but now this is the only phone I want. Its AMAZING.
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g2 or the desire z is a good phone..except the keyboard and the ****ing loose hinge..

jkat797 said:
Trust me, go with the galaxy s, once you root it you will love it. It has a faster processor than the g2, a bigger screen, a super amoled display, and is thinner and more durable. I felt the same way you feel at first about my galaxy s, but now this is the only phone I want. Its AMAZING.
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Let me preface this by saying to each his own. I would never discourage someone from trying any other Android phone. That being said.... I have never used a Fascinate but had a Vibrant and LOVED it until I realized how awesome the G2 is. The problem is, the ONLY way to love that phone, is to root it. And even then, a lagfix must be implemented for decent performance. I remember when I shat my pants because the Vibrant could be OC'd to 1.4gzh and show me a Quad of 2300. My G2 can do that if I submerge it in the toilet and run Rhapsody while I OC and run the benchmark (hyperbole alert).
Maybe the GPS is fixed on the SGS4G, but it was awful on the Vibrant for so many people. It's durability is easily questionable, as it feels like it is made of dollar store parts. It only has a faster processor out of the box. The G2 is capable of much, MUCH more.
Bottom line, IMO, if one is better than the other, the differences come down to user preference and not general real world experience. Team Whiskey makes some AMAZING ROMs for the Vibrant, but CM is barely limping along with bug after bug. And I don't even know for sure that Vibrant ROMs can be run on the SGS4G, or how complicated that particular Port is.

Thanks for the input guys I have 1 week to decide what to do. I was wondering what the Quad for the G2 is just off the bat because mine is only about 975.

i have used a few phones beforee settling on my g2. one of htem was the samsung captivate which is basically the galaxy s 4g in a different body and without the 4g. i can tell you that the g2 is way better. samsung makes th galaxy s phones really crappy(all plastic) and probably wont ever give the new galaxy s an update that all of the other galaxy s users are still waiting for(2.2!).

I have had stock Quad scored range from 1500 - 2000, rooted and OC'd I can get in the 3000's

if i were you then i would exchange them, but i cant work without a physical keyboard

I have a regular Vibrant and a G2 (one is a work phone). Both rooted on custom ROMs. G2 is on CM7 while Vibrant is still on Froyo.
If they could have put the Vibrant screen on the G2, it would be the best phone on the market. I'm not saying just because of the keyboard, but the G2 is a more solid phone over all. It's faster (albeit, overclocked) over all.
To each his own though. Having CM7 is worth it for me.

IMO G2/Desire Z is one of the best phones out there and is worth the money. I have been using it since december, been back and forth between nexus one, desire, desire z and i am finally picking up my dz back. not letting it go this time... love this phone... it really rocks...

I'm currently a captivate user on att contract, and I am thinking about jumping over to a DZ... but I am having trouble justifying paying 500$-ish for a new unlocked phone that people are starting to call "dated."
However, I made it a point to myself that I will NEVER buy a smartphone without a physical qwerty ever again. Swype was cool for a few months, but it's impossible to be productive with an entirely touch screen phone... and to me that's just a contradiction to the "smart" in smartphone itself

Could always wait alittle longer for the "next-gen" dual core phones set to be released later this year

no i dont recommend this phone..if u rly rly need a keyboard phone then u can get it otherwise i recommend nexus S

[Q] What phone can make you throw your hd2 away??

So everything is in the title!! Without the money issue of course.. just wondering if i have to change what 's interesting out there?? Please do forget to say why..
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There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones

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There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones
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I agree with everything you said here.
My replacement will have to have at least a 4.3 inch screen, dual core, more ram, and no frikkin 3D crap.

There is no way I'm changing my HD2 right now, but if I had to I'd pick the Evo 3D, not because of its specification nor of its supposed 3D. But because of it's design . It's so sexy

hakuchi18v said:
There is no phone that looks good right now.. Sure their Specs are nice but the overall look of them... NO, a nice HTC 4.3in screen that's thin similar to the HD2/7 with dual+ core and more ram then ok... 3D that's useless and makes no sense on phones
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Lol totally agree with you but.. still the atrix looks good.. or even the lg optimus whatever the name is..
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sumthing dual core, but specifically qualcomm snapdragon.. not a big fan of the dual core tegra
reason - QC chips kick ass

chars91 said:
Lol totally agree with you but.. still the atrix looks good.. or even the lg optimus whatever the name is..
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Idk why but the Atrix... Something about it throws me off... The Optimus X2 looks good

I can't leave my hd2...

I could not live without my HD2.
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I will never get rid of my HD2, even after it completely dies one day it will go into my go into my archieves as atestamony to it's greatness lol. But I am looking forward to tbe release of the HTC Pyramid. It is a dual core Snapdragon. Hell yeah!!!

Guys come on! I know we all love our HD2's but if you had the opportunity to switch to a native android device which didn't have any bugs and had the new snapdragon processor you'd definitely change. Also wake up lag is a *****.
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I think this would make me wanna leave my HD2...
http://wwalczyszyn.deviantart.com/art/HTC-quot-Eerie-quot-HD3-159409776

A phone with multi-os

Whilst I love my HD2 I have temporarily traded it for my cousin's captivate. Main reason so as to try out a native android phone.
So from my experience, i can conclude that android on this captivate is so much more smoother/faster than any rom from my HD2. In terms of variety of roms, it sucks, its either stock, themed stock, vanilla, themed vanilla. No variety in their roms really...
But that is where all those 3rd party launchers come in, like launcher 7. ;D
Whilst I do not know which device I want next, I do know it won't be another HTC or a motorola device. Reason being for both motorola and HTC, they've locked down their bootloaders now, so that means no more custom kernels, true root, etc. Also for HTC, snapdragon GPUs just suck, period.
I am keeping a keen eye on the galaxy s 2 however.

Definitely plan on getting the Htc Pyramid. Reasins why, 4.3' native android phone, dual core, 8mp camera, 1.3 front camera. 540x960 qhd resolution.

Kailkti said:
Whilst I do not know which device I want next, I do know it won't be another HTC or a motorola device. Reason being for both motorola and HTC, they've locked down their bootloaders now, so that means no more custom kernels, true root, etc. Also for HTC, snapdragon GPUs just suck, period.
I am keeping a keen eye on the galaxy s 2 however.
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I don't know if i'm mistaken but i think that the devs are working hard on the locked down bootloaders that you mention.. and with a dual core snapdragon the htc pyramid sounds great.. but like you said just keeping an eye on it..
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i think HD2 is the best right now with no comparing,but the time cpu upgraded the heat come more and more without solving,i think HTC should be ware of designing internal component in the future ,most of common problem related to hd2 comes from heat, stuck.freezing and sometimes i have to put mine in freezer to boot, ,

My contract runs out next month and I like to get the latest technology as soon as possible as then the phone retains its value when you want to sell it.
But what will be the next HD2? I love the fact that I can run WP7, Android etc will any phone in the future be so versitile? Probably not.
I'm really not sure whether to just stick with my HD2 or upgrade to the EVO 3D, just a shame it doesnt have a Tegra 2 processor as that would pursade me.

A Tmous HD2 with 1gb rom

@chars
Yes they are working on it. However since HTC just released the source code for the thunderbolt, by which allows devs to truly root the device, maybe HTC isn't following in line with locking bootloaders. If so I will be keeping a keen eye on the pyramid. However since it's an adreno GPU I'm not sure....