If the Defy can do it, why can't we? It has a locked bootloader too. I bet I sound pretty stupid because there is something I'm missing, but oh well...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033654
A quick glance says that they're using update.zip files to clobber /system, so they're not touching the bootloader. So this should be doable, although I believe that our CWM could use some more work.
Sogarth said:
A quick glance says that they're using update.zip files to clobber /system, so they're not touching the bootloader. So this should be doable, although I believe that our CWM could use some more work.
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To tell you the truth, I was thinking somewhere along those lines also.
So why couldn't we do this for the Atrix?
no dev is working on it o.o
p.s. been doind this on my x10 for months now lol
BravoMotorola said:
To tell you the truth, I was thinking somewhere along those lines also.
So why couldn't we do this for the Atrix?
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If it's doable, there probably is someone already doing it, just keeping quiet till a working version is reached. This phone is quite new, I think we just need some patience...
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tsouza said:
If it's doable, there probably is someone already doing it, just keeping quiet till a working version is reached. This phone is quite new, I think we just need some patience...
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Ahh. And another thing, anybody know what "2nd init" is?
Wow. Didn't know that was possible. That'd be awesome if we actually got CM7!
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PixoNova said:
Wow. Didn't know that was possible. That'd be awesome if we actually got CM7!
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We just need to figure out wtf 2nd-init is . Any dev around?
A quick search reveals this.
that is pretty great for defy users, now i am jealous again
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A quick search reveals this.
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Haha thanks. Yea I tried "2nd init" and "2nd init androrid" and couldn't find that. I wonder what you searched...
Anyways this is 2.3.3 they have running on the Defy, and I had no clue this was even close to possible. We got some pro dev's? Pay the guy who ported Cyanogen to the Defy money for an Atrix and money for a monthly AT&T bill and maybe he'll do it
Apparently nobody reads my thread I posted this weeks ago -_-
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BravoMotorola said:
Haha thanks. Yea I tried "2nd init" and "2nd init androrid" and couldn't find that. I wonder what you searched...
Anyways this is 2.3.3 they have running on the Defy, and I had no clue this was even close to possible. We got some pro dev's? Pay the guy who ported Cyanogen to the Defy money for an Atrix and money for a monthly AT&T bill and maybe he'll do it
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+1 to this, I come from N1 and I really really miss CM7
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+1 to this, I come from N1 and I really really miss CM7
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We can only hope that one of our talented devs could somehow make this work for us
Wish I knew how to do this stuff. I'd be all over it if I knew.
I posted over there asking if he would mind stopping by our forum or the IRC channel and giving us a few pointers. We'll see if he does I guess...
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I posted over there asking if he would mind stopping by our forum or the IRC channel and giving us a few pointers. We'll see if he does I guess...
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Who is this person?
Also I really want CM7 please some developer can you work on this? The building blocks are here already.
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Who is this person?
Also I really want CM7 please some developer can you work on this? The building blocks are here already.
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Assuming he's talking about Quarx. The TC of the Defy CM7 topic.
I wonder if he'd be willing to give some devs pointers. Or even attempt this himself
It all starts here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1026853
We'd have to port that before anything else...
He says something about Korean developers... Ah ha! That's what has been missing from this equation all along!
Yeh, you are probably right. And as next step would be understanding the current cm7 defy port and maybe try do to the same thing using cm7 harmony as a base.
I could try doing it, I'm a quite experienced java developer (6+ years) and wouldn't have problems learning it BUT, as I already sold my old Nexus One, Atrix is my current phone and I don't wanna risk it... =/
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Hello,
I am planing on the Atrix for august when I will be in the US,
And I wonder- do you think the Bootloader will be cracked untill then?
Or Motorola Unlock it/ update to- 2.4?
Thank You,
Daniel
No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.
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No way to be certain for either of those questions. Check back in August.
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I wanted to know as well...
Sigh, August is way to long...
wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...
they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick
Not really pessimistic, just neutral. We can make guesses but there is no way to be certain the loader will be broken or whether motorola will give up and unsign it. They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.
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wow it sound really pessimistic.
I am following the DEVS thread and it looks like they found something and soon the will find a way to hack this...
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Well thats sucks.
2.3 doesn't bring any important changes, and it does take time to make the update.
waste of time..
well it just means that if the devs here won't get to bootloader hacked the milestone story will be back.
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they havent posted in the bootloader thread in a couple of days, so i dont know whats going on. its killing me too.
i cant make heads or tales of what they have done as of yet, but i can say that it looks better for us now that they have a way to recover (the sbf) if they mess something up. a lot of things things they can try now that they may not have wanted to before, for fear of brick
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Ya what happened to them, that thread was booming with new posts every day and randomly it just stopped
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They have stated we will get 2.3 for sure, but 2.4 is a toss up still.
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Who cares about 2.3? 2.4 is what everyone's after...
GPU-accelerated UI and Browser
Built-in Gtalk video chat support
Multi-language browser support
And as Matias Duarte implied, all the Honeycomb design changes will be in 2.4
So who cares about 2.3? Not me. If the Atrix isn't released unsigned in Canada, and unless the XDA hacks it, I will be going for the Nexus S, and sticking with the Nexus line for the next few years...
Hard to speak about 2.4, as we don't have much of a clue about it. But loading custom kernels and the like is really making me re-think the decision about buying the Atrix...
Not to be a downer in this thread, but I wouldn't hold your breath for the unlocked bootloader, but it is nice that some fresh minds are going at it.
With that said, the devs for the D2 and DX have been able to set the users up with a good amount of customization.
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oh man I will be in Canada for 4 days...I hoped maybe it would be unlocked there.
well I guess I'll just have to check it later...
thank you every one
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=992326
HAVE YOU SEEN THIS?!
HE GOT A WAY TO PASS THE BOOTLOADER!!!!
HOPE HE WILL PUBLISH A WAY TO PASS IT SOON!!!
Its still being tested but DA G has had some success. No one else has posted anything else. I think the reason the bootloader thread has been quiet is because there in an irc were they can talk easier. We prob wont hear anythkng new until they have made some progress. I'm just glad we have the sbf file. That's a big step. Ill be happy if we can get motoblur removed.
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Pleeaaasee?
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C'mon, guys! There are so many great developers in our Continuum community, and I'm sure we can do it. Plus, "in theory" it's possible for any android device to run ICS. So why not the Continuum? We can't be left behind, especially with all of these other devices getting ports. I know I'm a newbie, but I thought I'd give you guys that kinda motivational speech.
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No comment.
Except, read through forum about any other rom port and you would find answers.
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If you want it ported, you can try doing it yourself xD
That being said, we should be happy that we have froyo, let alone gingerbread and ICS, because we shouldn't even technically have that!
And btw: it isn't as easy as one.two.three... For us, a new kernel would be needed, first of all.. And that is already near impossible xD
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Pleeaaasee?
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easier said than done, and nearly impossible
Did everybody see this? Its an interesting read. Afaik Motorola hasnt been mentioned yet in the Carrier-IQ fiasco but I wouldn't be surprised if Blur has it baked in. Anybody know? Opinions?
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Did everybody see this? Its an interesting read. Afaik Motorola hasnt been mentioned yet in the Carrier-IQ fiasco but I wouldn't be surprised if Blur has it baked in. Anybody know? Opinions?
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Running his logging finder app thingy doesn't show any of the normal CIQ logs. I think Blur has it's own "phone home" service baked in, not some third-party hack job.
Nice article. I'll be following this one closely! Very interesting.
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Did everybody see this? Its an interesting read. Afaik Motorola hasnt been mentioned yet in the Carrier-IQ fiasco but I wouldn't be surprised if Blur has it baked in. Anybody know? Opinions?
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Yea, read the article earlier and i can say that TreVe is as innocent as a saint who landed in a Strip club by accident.
I would not be worried if i was him though. CIQ are in deep ****, their initial intentions were to get TrEve to panic and write them a letter of apology because of the 24-hour deadline.
What TrEve did is not an act of piracy as he was solely reading the codes for Educational and journalism purposes, and the laws allow this as long as he does not redistribute these codes himself. Logically speaking though, there is absolutely nothing wrong about wanting to know what's going on inside your handset and what the guy discovered is actually quite scary. Why on earth would CIQ implement their codes on sense UI, etc....? Seems kind of creepy if you ask me. What other hidden codes might they have? Why on earth did HTC allow this?....because there is absolutely no way that they don't know about the hidden codes.
I am with TrEve 100% on this one, definitely posting these on FB, G+, etc....
yeah, i was asking about it myself a few days ago
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/more-on-carrier-iq/
WiredPirate said:
Did everybody see this? Its an interesting read. Afaik Motorola hasnt been mentioned yet in the Carrier-IQ fiasco but I wouldn't be surprised if Blur has it baked in. Anybody know? Opinions?
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They say it's baked into the Kernel and RAM. So if we have this and we are running CM7 with a custom kernel we could still have it.
http://www.androidcentral.com/security-advocate-eff-go-toe-toe-data-collection-company-carrieriq
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http://www.androidcentral.com/security-advocate-eff-go-toe-toe-data-collection-company-carrieriq
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wow. ridiculous article.
why wouldn't they agree to post the information that was sent to them?
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wow. ridiculous article.
why wouldn't they agree to post the information that was sent to them?
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Agreed, they focused much more on the legal aspects of the story than they did being informative about Carrier-IQ. It seams like they dont want to risk getting a C&D letter too.
carrier-iq withdraws C&D.
http://briefmobile.com/breaking-carrier-iq-has-withdrawn-cease-and-desist-order-on-tevor-eckhart
and they apologized, as well.
However, damage is done, i'd say.
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carrier-iq withdraws C&D.
http://briefmobile.com/breaking-carrier-iq-has-withdrawn-cease-and-desist-order-on-tevor-eckhart
and they apologized, as well.
However, damage is done, i'd say.
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I just read the same story here:
http://techcrunch.com/2011/11/23/carrier-iq-retracts-their-cd-apologizes-to-the-android-researcher/
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/the-storm-is-not-over-yet-lets-talk-about-ciq/
Two "new" stories today:
Android Central
Android Community w video of keystroke recording.
Atrix infected with Carrier-iq
Can anyone confirm that the Atrix is currently with or without any of the Carrier-IQ spyware?
From what I have ready its not in MOTO devices (yet) but there is probably something similar. Another reason to move to CM7 when it gets mature enough for me to use (I'm sticking with Aura for the time being, and thoroughly enjoying it I might add).
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They say it's baked into the Kernel and RAM. So if we have this and we are running CM7 with a custom kernel we could still have it.
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My understanding was that if you run CM7, you're clean.
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From what I have ready its not in MOTO devices (yet) but there is probably something similar. Another reason to move to CM7 when it gets mature enough for me to use (I'm sticking with Aura for the time being, and thoroughly enjoying it I might add).
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The atrix 2 appears to have it, but probably atrix doesn't, might figure the next update if it ever comes will have it
Wow collecting info without us knowing. That's got to be illegal on some level. Glad I switched to cm7 the day I got my phone now
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GIZMODO lists the Atrix 4G as NOT having carrier-IQ.
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GIZMODO lists the Atrix 4G as NOT having carrier-IQ.
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i don't know if i should be offended or glad that our phones weren't invited to this party.
I've seen posts about cm9 alphas in other threads. Has there not been one released for the shift? I guess these are compiles by folks but I haven't noticed one mentioned for the shift. I was just curious if any of you guys know of one or have ran one. Maybe I have overlooked it.
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jsp254 said:
I've seen posts about cm9 alphas in other threads. Has there not been one released for the shift? I guess these are compiles by folks but I haven't noticed one mentioned for the shift. I was just curious if any of you guys know of one or have ran one. Maybe I have overlooked it.
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Evervolv uses a lot of the CM members source code. That's about as close to cm9 as your going to get for now.
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Hitting the thanks button is soo much easier then typing thanks!
toastcfh has been working on cm9 for the shift and the 3d but since hes a perfectionist (which is a great thing of course) he hasnt shared with anyone to try yet that im aware of. itll be worth the wait im sure
Rest assured, there will be a million threads about it on here when it's posted. He's working on it still.
By the time it's done and said most shifters will have moved onto newer phones lol.
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Hitting the thanks button is soo much easier then typing thanks!
Gotcha. I agree that its good to have someone with high expectations working on it. The more, the better. I was just curious. It just seemed as if there was more chatter about alphas in the past few days.
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By the time it's done and said most shifters will have moved onto newer phones lol.
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Yeah, lol
Im gonna try to get a free nexus via my total protection thing on sprint.
We need something new lol. I'm still waiting for an ICS port that has camera xD
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jesuscash said:
Yeah, lol
Im gonna try to get a free nexus via my total protection thing on sprint.
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It worked for me
jesusice said:
It worked for me
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How?
I have protection through BB.
J-RodWI said:
How?
I have protection through BB.
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I don't know about Best Buy's but I have TEP through Sprint and when my Shift broke for the second time (probably bad flex cable) I asked then to replace it with the Nexus S 4G instead and they did
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I don't know about Best Buy's but I have TEP through Sprint and when my Shift broke for the second time (probably bad flex cable) I asked then to replace it with the Nexus S 4G instead and they did
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did you have to pay a deductiable?
and was it a new or refurbished nexus?lol
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did you have to pay a deductiable?
and was it a new or refurbished nexus?lol
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No charge. It was a refurb but you couldn't tell it from a new one.
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No charge. It was a refurb but you couldn't tell it from a new one.
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awyeah.
Gonna give my shift a good use though, just incase they just give me another shift.
Again, I'm still waiting for an ICS slider.
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Again, I'm still waiting for an ICS slider.
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+1 shift 2 all the way ;p
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I just got my shift maybe 2 months ago. I love it. However, I wonder how (with CREDO Mobil) I could shift out of it if I wanted to go to the Nexus.
Though, like Vicodan, I am waiting til the ICS Slider comes out. I love having a physical keyboard..., i've tried a number of ROMs and I always go back to the CM7 w/Scary... yep. The others just eat way too much battery life for me.
Please oh please, ICS..., come home soon. It is my birthday week so, if there was ever a better time..now would be it.
Thanks to allt he Developers working out the code! You are all geniuses for sure.
<3
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I just got my shift maybe 2 months ago. I love it. However, I wonder how (with CREDO Mobil) I could shift out of it if I wanted to go to the Nexus.
Though, like Vicodan, I am waiting til the ICS Slider comes out. I love having a physical keyboard..., i've tried a number of ROMs and I always go back to the CM7 w/Scary... yep. The others just eat way too much battery life for me.
Please oh please, ICS..., come home soon. It is my birthday week so, if there was ever a better time..now would be it.
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Thanks for the shoutout. As for Credo mobile check the boost mobile thread in Q&A (pinned) I'm currently running mikshifted-G + dodge kernel 1.6. My zip is almost finished uploading. Will update the thread when done.
someone has news about the release of 4.0.5 for nexus s?
Yes....it will be available when these kinda sh*tty threads are not opened.
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it will be all over internet, you will hear about it in minutes after its released, there is no need for opening threads like this every two day...
What, don't you know? It's already been released. I have it on my phone.
zgomot said:
What, don't you know? It's already been released. I have it on my phone.
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hahaha good one
tristan1973 said:
someone has news about the release of 4.0.5 for nexus s?
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"soon" , "in next few weeks" <- those are Google time units, pick one
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What, don't you know? It's already been released. I have it on my phone.
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for you and 'a miracle to have a phone ..
tristan1973 said:
for you and 'a miracle to have a phone ..
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what is this i don't even
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What, don't you know? It's already been released. I have it on my phone.
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Next time just edit build.prop and reboot.
Then you really may fool some these people... (...who obviously believe there's some secret circle here on xda, getting everything before them, currently testing android 6.1 beta. And although we're sworn to secrecy, they expect us to answer questions like the one above.)
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Next time just edit build.prop and reboot.
Then you really may fool some these people... (...who obviously believe there's some secret circle here on xda, getting everything before them, currently testing android 6.1 beta. And although we're sworn to secrecy, they expect us to answer questions like the one above.)
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I know I can do that, but my intention was not to fool him into thinking it was true but rather to have a little laugh.
I know that you know and hope that you know that I know... where was I going with this? :what:
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Next time just edit build.prop and reboot.
Then you really may fool some these people... (...who obviously believe there's some secret circle here on xda, getting everything before them, currently testing android 6.1 beta. And although we're sworn to secrecy, they expect us to answer questions like the one above.)
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MAybe you are the idiot that believes these things. Otherwise it wouldn't come up to your mind and posting it here. Sure it seems you thought about it at least once
Not flaming funny you came up with it
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MAybe you are the idiot that believes these things. Otherwise it wouldn't come up to your mind and posting it here. Sure it seems you thought about it at least once
Not flaming funny you came up with it
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Are you on crack?
It will be out in the next 7 days.
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It will be out in the next 7 days.
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I say it will be out in the next <insert time frame here>.
next few weeks...
When it's done!
(Duke nukem, anyone?)
There is one thing I can be certain of is that we will get it by April.....2015
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When it's done!
(Duke nukem, anyone?)
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hopefully it'll be better than the end result of that...
next few ......months !!!!!!!!!!