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AT&T to throttle unlimited data users soon *news*

just stumbled across this, we may have to watch our tethering habits fella's
http://thecasualgeek.tumblr.com/post/8241532886/at-t-to-begin-throttling-unlimited-data-users

Sounds good to me, the top 5% heaviest users probably account for 30%-40% of data used across the entire mobile network in a month.
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Yeah, I can see it being an issue when people use a tethered phone as their primary internet service. I never go over the 2gb limit and I have unlimited.
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Welcome to Canada...

I use 2gig on average and I can't say I tether. Always on the market, netflix, Pandora etc. I also use QIK with my wife and kids. Wish they could make a Facetime app so I can call their Iphones though. Tango is aweful lately but QIK is pretty good.

Thats exactly wat tmobile does
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So basically the people who AT&T considers "abusing" their wireless network will be affected only. Not a big deal to me. Seems to me AT&T just needs to add more hotspots and problem solved.
"Typically what puts someone in the top 5 percent is streaming very large amounts of video and music daily over the wireless network, not Wi-Fi. "

Here's a better idea. Remove all the iPhone ****** users and problem solved.
IPhone users automatically equal tier plan death to carriers. It's truly game over whenever Sprint gets the iPhone...
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I'd rather have throttled unlimited data vs a 2gb cap with possible overage charges.
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I have yet to go over 2gig in a month anyway, I added tethering for my tablet which bumped it to 4gig at $45, still haven't went over 4. I don't mind paying even though I can tether free, since they are going to charge me $10 bucks for each gig over anyway. wish we would get 4G speeds where i live tho

The issue is how do they calculate the "heaviest users"?
Possibilities.
Assumption: throttling starts at 5gb
1. If i have unlimited plan and use about 6gb.
2. If i have a tethering plan and i use 6gb.
Scenario #1, i am ok with. 6gb using just a phone is a hell of a lot. i have hit 4gb once and that was when i left wifi off all month.
Scenario #2 would piss me off. Part of getting the tethering plan is because you will be using large amounts of data. In essence they are saying, we dont care. I bet ther only users that will be affected are the people who tether, and that is utte bull****.
Either way, we dont know when the throttling starts because AT&T doesnt release data usage stats.

Well this sucks for me. I do 10+GB a month. My record was in the mid 40s. I do a lot of tethering. And a lot of P2P with that tethering.
well I'll just have to upgrade my home internet
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Maroon Mushroom said:
Well this sucks for me. I do 10+GB a month. My record was in the mid 40s. I do a lot of tethering. And a lot of P2P with that tethering.
well I'll just have to upgrade my home internet
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that's what they are trying to stop -.-
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ccrows said:
Here's a better idea. Remove all the iPhone ****** users and problem solved.
IPhone users automatically equal tier plan death to carriers. It's truly game over whenever Sprint gets the iPhone...
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I would like to know the logic to this. We have both and it's the Androids that seem to leach the most data. My wife was never over 200mb with her iPhone or Surround, but she's had 2 Inspires (warrantied once for this reason). They leached data straight out of the box. Her Inspire averages 900mb.
She is almost always home on wifi, and our house is an Edge-only area.
The iPhone doesn't do anything more to a network than the Androids. It only got the label of network killer because it was the first truly powerful smartphone they released. It was also so much of a hit, it pulled in dumb phone users who never thought of getting a smartphone.
The current line of Androids are just as fast, and faster, than the iPhone4. They stream HD video, and are uncorked from the box. I cant even download a podcast if it's over 20mb while on my i4.

Nophix said:
I would like to know the logic to this. We have both and it's the Androids that seem to leach the most data. My wife was never over 200mb with her iPhone or Surround, but she's had 2 Inspires (warrantied once for this reason). They leached data straight out of the box. Her Inspire averages 900mb.
She is almost always home on wifi, and our house is an Edge-only area.
The iPhone doesn't do anything more to a network than the Androids. It only got the label of network killer because it was the first truly powerful smartphone they released. It was also so much of a hit, it pulled in dumb phone users who never thought of getting a smartphone.
The current line of Androids are just as fast, and faster, than the iPhone4. They stream HD video, and are uncorked from the box. I cant even download a podcast if it's over 20mb while on my i4.
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Both AT&T and Verizon have complained about network overload issues after taking on the iPhone. They like the money that the phone brings in, but then cry poor that their networks are suffering.
Verizon was doing just fine with their Android lineup.
They thought they could handle the iPhone and show up AT&T with their network. Now they are just known as victim #2.
Sprint is now the new favorite on different message boards. Guarantee if they take on the iPhone, it will be tiered data death for them too.
Just one of my MANY reasons why I hate Apple...
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I don't like this at all. I tether on very rare occasions. But I have a 2 hour bus commute and half hour bike ride to and from work 5 days a week. During that time I am almost always streaming video or music, whether it be from hulu, Netflix, Pandora, Google Music etc...
My billing cycle ends on the 3rd. I just checked what my usage for July has been. In July I had a week off from work. Even with that week off and using wifi every minute I'm at home im still at 6.8gb. This worries me. I'm not abusing the data service, I'm just using it in my daily routine. I don't know if that amount of data could potentially throttle me but it would sure suck if I if it did.
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I still have my Unltd Data from way back 09, so this sort of blows for me, but AT&T has a business to run, I guess.

Nice corporate guru responses. The "top 5%" is gonna be anyone over 2gb, since that amount was put in place by the company as 95% of AT&T's customers using less than that. At least other carriers throttle to new unlimited plans, at&t doesn't even offer this anymore. All they are doing is rewarding dumb people who think a smartphone makes them smarter while curbing technological advances in streaming music and video.
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I wonder if I'll be affected by this.. I don't tether at all and sometimes i hit 20gb. I'm on netflix often, play my pocket legends, vendetta online and download some movies/anime. I have unlimited data.

Im probably going to leave at&t for sprint sometime next year. I never go over 2gb a month and I couldn't imagine how slow my connection would be if they started throttling my data usage. I live in Destin FL and I have seen no improvements going from an aria to an atrix network speed wise. The other day I was at work and a guy there constantly ridicules me for paying nearly $200 a month when he pays 45 on boost.. my argument was the network speed... so we downloaded some large images. Streamed some videos from youtube and on every occasion his samsung galaxy prevail would download nearly twice as fast on boosts 3g vs my atrix's "4g" ... and he has unlimited everything. Yet still my atrix speedtests are better than our work phones which are on verizon's 3g.
I think, as at&t customers especially ones that are loyal to them pay entirely too much money for sub par network performance .. the only thing they have going for them is being able to browse and use voice on the network..
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Is sprint purposely slow?

After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I've been less than a mile from a tower and have my connection suck. In a open air environment to.
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I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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A_Flying_Fox said:
I can't watch that video rgt now cuz I'm on VZW 1x lolol
What is it?
And sprint has been slow on 3g since the evo came out
Before that, sprint was worthy of its name
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"Sprint - to run at full speed"
How ironic lol
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If verizon wasn't so damn expensive I would go there. I think sprint good prices and plan is the reason they won't up the speed of there network. Its not like sprint don't have the technology to do so.
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My speeds depend on which tower I'm connected to. The one on the main road has good signal but crappy speeds, and the tower at work is 1-2 bars but steady 2 mbps. I also work in the boonies and there are probably only 5 people connected to it.
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blackdragon79 said:
After watching this video I'm starting to wonder if sprint is intentionally slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd7taHnHzcg&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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Shinydude100 said:
You could argue that all carriers are slow. It depends on the tower, prl, and etc, as well as how much you tweak your phone's radio-dependent files, but ruling out those factors, it truly does matter on your data plan. Most, if not all carriers cap your speeds when you're on unlimited plans, those who are on data limits are the ones who truly get no cap, although it doesn't matter because they have a limit, so its as if they're capped anyway.
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Sprint claims they don't cap under any circumstances. I think the problem is that Sprint simply doesn't know how to maintain their network well enough to keep up with the demand.
I've whined about this endlessly but I'll give a little example of what I'm talking about. My wife and I drove back to our apartment in the city from upstate NY this morning. We had Spotify going the entire time and at no point did we have any skips or gaps in songs during playback. As soon as we got in our neighborhood, however, the song we were listening to cut began getting choppy before eventually cutting out completely. In the time it took us to find a parking spot - about 5 or so minutes - the song cut out for about 4:50 before coming back with a choppy signal. Sprint has told me a few dozen times that there's a problem with a tower in this neighborhood that somehow never gets fixed. Let's face it, if Sprint can't get their network working reliably in NYC, what does that say about their competence?

The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.

jnadke said:
The problem is Sprint hasn't invested in their network or backhaul since they came out with data plans back in 2003-2004.
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This exactly.
Now they are, unfortunately for us it's going to take a little to see the results.
The mere insinuation that Sprint would be slow [in some areas as slow at 50k] on purpose is...well... I'll be nice and say it isn't smart.

I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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mtwow789 said:
I think sprint is playing smart by saying unlimited data for ad but actually they can only serve very slow speeds everybody.
this in turn make me use less data because I rely on my wifi. A win win situation for the sprint but not for customers.
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not sure if this is there intention per se but there's certainly some truth to it. I've got friends who have AT&T iPhones and they routinely go over 5 gigs of data in a month with streaming and whatnot. I've never cracked 600 megs with my Epic because the data speeds are too slow - why would I try to download several gigabytes of data when my downstream tops out a .30 Mbps? when I can get on 4G it's great but it usually knocks me off intermittently until I just give up and switch back to 3G.

I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.

mtwow789 said:
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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I saw ~20 people in the Sprint store this weekend just for the Iphone.

So i guess it not just my crapy little town

If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
mtwow789 said:
I'm just waiting for tons of new iPhone users come in and swarm the Sprint severs and experience the true unlimited data with 10~500kbps speed.
I hope they form and do some kind of class action lawsuit so I can pitch in.
From a user who gets consistent 10~30 kbps in downtown.
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Good idea - sue them for all they're worth. Then they go bankrupt, and we're all left with Verizon, AT&T or T mobile (or crappy prepaid, which typically piggy backs on the major carrier's networks...)
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sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.

mtwow789 said:
sigh.. is there no other alternatives then Sprint?
I know Sprint is cheap, but this slowness is too much.
What's the point of unlimited data when I just rely on my wifi.
In this rate, I can take 200mb option from ATT. Because I cant use that much in sprint.
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Get a T-Mobile vibrant then unlock it and put in an att sim card. Tell att you want the $15 unlimited data plan for quick messaging phones and give them your imei. If they ask what your phone is tell them it's just an old samsung tmobile phone and mention nothing about android or the real name of the phone, Enjoy.
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styles420 said:
If they tried to give full speed to everyone, we would all be taxing the bandwidth, creating a data traffic jam - no data for anyone. (this isn't necessarily an accurate description, I can't claim to know all - but the concept is sound)
The bandwidth is inherently shared, so they have to make sure that everyone gets enough to consider it more than useless.
There is no such thing as truly unlimited bandwidth... Anyone remember when cable internet first came out? It was fast as hell, until prices came down and a few of my neighbors got on board
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I'm sure everything you are saying is true. The problem is that Sprint claims they don't limit bandwidth or throttle at all. And it's the line of bulls--t from Sprint that angers me more than their pathetically slow service. That they can't just come forward and speak the truth rather than trying to lure customers in with false promises is a deceptive business practice.

It should be class action for all not just iPhone ppl on sprint.
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Is MetroPCS unlocking phones?

Hey guys, I was searching the interwebs for some general unlocking info and I found this from a couple years ago. Pretty interesting I think, what happened to this? Are they actually reflashing phones in-store? As far as the "gradual opening of the US wireless market"...it's gradual indeed
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2541615...ss/t/metropcs-customers-bring-your-own-phone/

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MetroPCS will allow you to use some CDMA handsets from other providers, yes. But you don't get data; you'll have to figure out how to do that yourself. I know plenty of folks who put OG Droids and EVOs on Ghettro, though I don't know why... 1xRTT is pretty miserable, way too slow for a real smartphone... and their LTE isn't compatible with Verizon LTE handsets afaik.
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Interesting. So are GSM data standards are more inter-compatible between carriers than with CDMA? (I had to look up what 1xRTT is =) )

shadowguy1 said:
Interesting. So are GSM data standards are more inter-compatible between carriers than with CDMA? (I had to look up what 1xRTT is =) )
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It's the same principle, each carrier runs their network on different frequencies, except most who use the same technology also use the same texting/phone frequencies.
If Metro had the same 3G bands as Verizon, a Verizon phone would work fine.

MetroPCS doesn't have EV-DO at all.

Yes they do. if you are using their latest .prl (3025) and your phone is 3G capable, you will get 3G in the rare places where it is available. i live in nyc and did not get 3g on metro unless i went to Brooklyn . i used the speedtest app and it got 300ish kbps on an evdo network. not bad speed for metropcs, but very slow compared to what im using now.
Check here if you don't believe me:
http://androidforums.com/samsung-admire/413237-3g-samsung-admire-here-3022-prl.html
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shadowguy1 said:
Hey guys, I was searching the interwebs for some general unlocking info and I found this from a couple years ago. Pretty interesting I think, what happened to this? Are they actually reflashing phones in-store? As far as the "gradual opening of the US wireless market"...it's gradual indeed
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/2541615...ss/t/metropcs-customers-bring-your-own-phone/
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There are two stores around me that do it. $50 to get your phone on there network. Only one of them does the data. Not sure how much they charge. But it's not officially done by metro. It's individuals who work in the store and the money goes to them.
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Speaking of bringing your own phone....anybody know anything about simplesim. I've thought about going to them from att.
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simplesim? Do you mean Simple Mobile?

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simplesim? Do you mean Simple Mobile?
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Yeah that's it. Know anything about em
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boborone said:
Yeah that's it. Know anything about em
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They are an MVNO of T-Mobile. To be honest, I would just go with T-Mobile's monthly 4G plans instead of Simple but to each his own. Some people swear by them.
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Babydoll25 said:
They are an MVNO of T-Mobile. To be honest, I would just go with T-Mobile's monthly 4G plans instead of Simple but to each his own. Some people swear by them.
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I'm about to go to sprint for the unlimited data. Att is going to start throttling me on mine. I've just all these GSM phones laying around and would like to use them.
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boborone said:
I'm about to go to sprint for the unlimited data. Att is going to start throttling me on mine. I've just all these GSM phones laying around and would like to use them.
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It won't be unlimited for long...WImax sucks too....but whatever makes you happy.
I'd say take Verizon up on their double data promo if your going CDMA
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Babydoll25 said:
It won't be unlimited for long...WImax sucks too....but whatever makes you happy.
I'd say take Verizon up on their double data promo if your going CDMA
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What's double data. I typically use around 150 gb a month. That's why I like unlimited.

I met a guy recently on Simple Mobile and he seemed happy, I'm thinking of switching soon. I mean, unlimited 3G data, text and talk for $40 a month including international texting? Considering my phone only does 3G (Vibrant) anyways...
But, I also don't use that much data.

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What's double data. I typically use around 150 gb a month. That's why I like unlimited.
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They have a promo where if you order 2GB for 30$ you automatically get 4GB and, pay for 5GB ($50) get 10GB, and so on....
ALSO: To anyone thinking of Simple mobile go with the higher priced option. The 40$ dollar option doesn't give you access to 4G speeds (T-Mobile's HSPA+ in this case) even if your phone is only 3G capable you will see a speed boost.
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They have a promo where if you order 2GB for 30$ you automatically get 4GB and, pay for 5GB ($50) get 10GB, and so on....
ALSO: To anyone thinking of Simple mobile go with the higher priced option. The 40$ dollar option doesn't give you access to 4G speeds (T-Mobile's HSPA+ in this case) even if your phone is only 3G capable you will see a speed boost.
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Ahhh I see. Still too little for me. I hook my phone to my tv and watch Netflix, the news. Play games and such. I'm a data hog I know.
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Wait for Journal or go with ATT

So with VZ about to double data(again!), I have been thinking of getting a GNex with 5GB(or 10 since double), so if the Journal comes, Id have a great plan. Should I do that or get the ATT and get the 5GB plan? I hate that the only messaging option is 20$, and employee discounts do not help.
Thank you in advance!

One thing i learnt over the last decade using cell phone, gsm phone always resells easier, faster and at higher price compares to cdma. That's why i never go the verizon route. And do u really need over 5gb data? Sure 10 is great but unless u carry 3 battery around all the time and not using wifi at home, there is no way u can burn through 5gb data per month .
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oh better believe some people burn through tons of gigs per month. If you stream netflix videos, tether your phone as a hotspot, etc. Then it is possible.

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oh better believe some people burn through tons of gigs per month. If you stream netflix videos, tether your phone as a hotspot, etc. Then it is possible.
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Yeah ive been using 4-5gb month since 2008. Probably alot more includong wifi. Since my window mobile days.
To op, like the above poster said gsm has better resale value. If signal quality isnt a issue att would be the better choice. Besides there bias with iphone, ive been a happy customer since 08.
If you want unlimited data, you can check if the iphone 2g trick still works.
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I have the same problem right now. But seeing as I'm willing to believe that the journal will come to verizon soon hopefully, I'm willing to wait.
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OP, you may get more interest in this topic at the "AT&T Galaxy Note" forum...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493

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OP, you may get more interest in this topic at the "AT&T Galaxy Note" forum...
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Where is the att note forum?I dont see it on the xda app
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1493

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OP, you may get more interest in this topic at the "AT&T Galaxy Note" forum...
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Can you please move it if it is appro?

intruda119 said:
Yeah ive been using 4-5gb month since 2008. Probably alot more includong wifi. Since my window mobile days.
To op, like the above poster said gsm has better resale value. If signal quality isnt a issue att would be the better choice. Besides there bias with iphone, ive been a happy customer since 08.
If you want unlimited data, you can check if the iphone 2g trick still works.
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Im in NYC, so people are telling me not to get ATT.
I may blow throw the Limit, im on TMO never came close to the soft cap, but I am installing an Ipad in my car and would like to stream movies/videos w/e thru the note.
I want the 10 just because its a GOOD deal, would kick myself if I get the ATT, dont pick up a VZ phone with the double data, then the note comes out on VZ and i coulda had double the data!
I think I will pre-order and test for 30 days. If VZ had this deal before, theny may have again!

Does the Verizon loophole still work if you get the 4g hotspot, they give you unlimited data?

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Does the Verizon loophole still work if you get the 4g hotspot, they give you unlimited data?
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No they closed the loop and now going back and auditing those that pulled the hotspot after it gave them unlimited.
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I have 450 min and lowest ATT data plan an have unlimited data using Sprints MiFi at $35mo. Don't dis Sprints Wimax. Here in Chicago its consistently faster than ATT's Hspa+, and downloads big sites faster than LTE devices at ATT or Verizon.
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Btw ...whats the Journal ? VU phone?

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[/COLOR]Btw ...whats the Journal ? VU phone?
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The Verizon version of the Note, should it come out(I think it will, hence the question/anxiety).

Most important is whether at&t works ok in your area. If it's tolerable with its overall coverage and data speeds, I'd say go for the at&t Note.
Don't be surprised if the Journal for VZW doesn't come out until like this summer at the earliest.
I'm basing this off the 9 month span it took the Thunderbolt to come out after the EVO was originally released for Sprint.
Problem is both at&t and VZW fell into the bad habit of taking forever to release phones. Culprits being long iPhone exclusivity for at&t....and OG Droid being a hit for VZW.

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No they closed the loop and now going back and auditing those that pulled the hotspot after it gave them unlimited.
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But IF they keep the 4G hotspot and not remove it after they got unlimited data, then the unlimited data still sticks?

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But IF they keep the 4G hotspot and not remove it after they got unlimited data, then the unlimited data still sticks?
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I believe so.

if youre worried about data usage, just wait for the vzw version. ATT only offers you 3gb/mo + $10 per gb beyond that. I personally dont think the note is worth jumping ship over, especially since the journal will come out. It will have LTE as well.

How long will this double data promo last?

Sprint bought out.

Hey everyone just saw the articles all over tech sites about softbanks majority takeover of Sprint Nextel and since this is the HTC EVO 4G OG section and most (certainly not all) are currently or have in the past Been with Sprint, I wanted to get everyone's thoughts on the issue. Good move? Why? Bad move why? Will it help bring Sprint life? Future of Simply Everything plans? Talk it up just keep it civil and friendly.
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Pretty sure this thread belongs elsewhere. Here is a link to the story. Doesn't sound as though the deal is done, as you implied.
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news...al-to-buy-70-percent-of-sprint-for-20-billion
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FinZ28 said:
Pretty sure this thread belongs elsewhere. Here is a link to the story. Doesn't sound as though the deal is done, as you implied.
http://mobile.businessweek.com/news...al-to-buy-70-percent-of-sprint-for-20-billion
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There's a newer article out. Reporting it is indeed finished and should be announced today. I'll find the link. But apologies if this doesn't belong I see much more "off topic threads" here Luke I want a GS3 blah blah figure this is somewhat on topic. As the OG EVO WAS a Sprint exclusive and so at one point every EVO was configured or running on Sprint. While I'm sure many of them (me for one) are still on Sprint and this could have a large impact on people. Again if I violated anything a MOD can surely close this or move it to where it belongs.
Here is the link: Japan’s Softbank to Acquire Majority Stake in Sprint for $20B http://mashable.com/2012/10/14/softbank-to-acquire-sprint/
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Gotcha. I stand corrected.
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I think this is a great thing for Sprint on the short term, kind of skeptical if it will be good for us consumers in the long run. I also find it somewhat sad that one company that has some sizeable debt, has just purchased a controlling share in another company with even greater debt, and I believe must of had to make this deal on credit.... Wish I could do that ****, dem bastards... :banghead:
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jamieg71 said:
I think this is a great thing for Sprint on the short term, kind of skeptical if it will be good for us consumers in the long run. I also find it somewhat sad that one company that has some sizeable debt, has just purchased a controlling share in another company with even greater debt, and I believe must of had to make this deal on credit.... Wish I could do that ****, dem bastards... :banghead:
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Yea I'm leaning the same way after more looking into. Hopefully this can be the influx of cash Sprint needs to.build the new networks faster and start drawing more customers. I just hope they keep the simply everything plans. I think that's a big plus for them. If they can't use this to get going again then nothing will.
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SuperiorEVOlution18 said:
Yea I'm leaning the same way after more looking into. Hopefully this can be the influx of cash Sprint needs to.build the new networks faster and start drawing more customers. I just hope they keep the simply everything plans. I think that's a big plus for them. If they can't use this to get going again then nothing will.
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This^ Unlimited everything (besides land line calls) is amazing. Not to mention their plans are cheaper. The only thing left, IMO, to get more people to move over is to get more 4g coverage. I know they are expanding more...and I just heard I'm getting 4g by me which I didn't think would come for a few more years so that's a plus for me
As long as this buy out doesn't run Sprint into the ground, then it should be a good thing.

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This^ Unlimited everything (besides land line calls) is amazing. Not to mention their plans are cheaper. The only thing left, IMO, to get more people to move over is to get more 4g coverage. I know they are expanding more...and I just heard I'm getting 4g by me which I didn't think would come for a few more years so that's a plus for me
As long as this buy out doesn't run Sprint into the ground, then it should be a good thing.
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Agreed most people agree the up front cash will allow them to build out the LTE network faster. Which is good. Hopefully the broader the 4G range 3g speeds will improve as well since less traffic.
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Not 'finished'....
BTW, this is LONG from 'finished', this is just the announcement of the agreement... there's still a LONG due diligence period that is only now starting along with required regulatory reviews. I doubt this will be 'finished' until 2nd quarter 2013, if not later.

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This^ Unlimited everything (besides land line calls) is amazing. Not to mention their plans are cheaper. The only thing left, IMO, to get more people to move over is to get more 4g coverage. I know they are expanding more...and I just heard I'm getting 4g by me which I didn't think would come for a few more years so that's a plus for me
As long as this buy out doesn't run Sprint into the ground, then it should be a good thing.
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You get what you pay for. Sprint's 4G is lacking and so is their 3G speeds. Getting consistent performance is out of question. Yeah the data is unlimited but that's it. Verizon has family share plans for $40/phone and shared data starting at $50/month. You could spend anywhere from $15-35 a month depending upon your data usage but Verizon at least in Los Angeles is worth every penny. Sprint will be nowhere near that kind of coverage for the next couple of years and I am tired of signing contracts based on promises of better data.

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You get what you pay for. Sprint's 4G is lacking and so is their 3G speeds. Getting consistent performance is out of question. Yeah the data is unlimited but that's it. Verizon has family share plans for $40/phone and shared data starting at $50/month. You could spend anywhere from $15-35 a month depending upon your data usage but Verizon at least in Los Angeles is worth every penny. Sprint will be nowhere near that kind of coverage for the next couple of years and I am tired of signing contracts based on promises of better data.
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Yeah what-ever, I'm pulling on average 17-20MB/sec down on 4G and no less than 1.5 on 3G. Verizon locks down bootloaders worse than Sprint has ever contemplated, and just wait till you go a few gigs over your "allowance" and get hit with the 2-3 hundred dollar overage. Everyone I know on Verizon complains, but to each his own.
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jamieg71 said:
Yeah what-ever, I'm pulling on average 17-20MB/sec down on 4G and no less than 1.5 on 3G. Verizon locks down bootloaders worse than Sprint has ever contemplated, and just wait till you go a few gigs over your "allowance" and get hit with the 2-3 hundred dollar overage. Everyone I know on Verizon complains, but to each his own.
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I'm guessing those 4G speeds are on your EVO LTE?

FinZ28 said:
I'm guessing those 4G speeds are on your EVO LTE?
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Yessir
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I read on Engadget today that Sprint bought like 50.8% of Clearwire. I wonder if our how that affects this deal

I hope that by buying half of clearwire, it improves 3g speeds.
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jamieg71 said:
Yeah what-ever, I'm pulling on average 17-20MB/sec down on 4G and no less than 1.5 on 3G. Verizon locks down bootloaders worse than Sprint has ever contemplated, and just wait till you go a few gigs over your "allowance" and get hit with the 2-3 hundred dollar overage. Everyone I know on Verizon complains, but to each his own.
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Whatever works for you man. I guess Sprint has Independence covered like a blanket I guess. BTW, each phone on the shared plan with Verizon gives you a good idea where you stand on data. If you feel you're about to go over, you can go to the next level.
I've been with Sprint for a long time and really wish the 4G coverage was better but when you lose to metropcs in a major market then that is a problem.

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I read on Engadget today that Sprint bought like 50.8% of Clearwire. I wonder if our how that affects this deal
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I'm pretty sure Softbank wanted Sprint to be in control of clearwire as per the agreement. But like it was mentioned the Grand ole Government still has to give the ok for this so it'll be at least 6+ months.
I also have to side with Jamie here I had Verizon for a while (pre-smartphone days) and their service was great but lately as a huge Root fan I'd never go back. They are locking down the bootloaders on so many of the best devices like he SG3 and another one I'm forgetting but they have plans to lockdown more in the future. And while Sprint isn't the biggest Root supporter they at least leave that door unlocked. nd once they get the LTE network built out speeds WILL improve, we already have it here in Baltimore and my buddies Gnex is pulling a consistent 20-25mb/sec which for us Sprint users is Freaking a god send lol. Combine that will never having to worry about Data which I use about 5-7 gb/month I'm sticking right there with them. Until they are a huge success or die off lol
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Cool story! I dropped sprint strictly because coverage in my area was very spotty. I have no regrets about it and if they fixed the network I'd go back in a heart beat...I just got tired of hearing about how my market was always next in line...blah blah blah. I also have no issue with verizon. The phone I picked was easily unlocked... that is more research based..all carriers should have a Google phone that can be unlocked. Data is not an issue...WiFi is every where anyways...even at the gym. I pay just as much now as I did with sprint... but dont drop calls...and since I am military and have a wife at home with my kids...an on demand call is a must. I also know Verizon has the better freq. Band... sure in the higher MHz you will get faster speeds..but the coverage area isn't as big...its all give and take. I am rooting for sprint...but just got tired of waiting....I love capitalism and choice...so I switched to who I feel deserved my money!
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bigbear6708 said:
Cool story! I dropped sprint strictly because coverage in my area was very spotty. I have no regrets about it and if they fixed the network I'd go back in a heart beat...I just got tired of hearing about how my market was always next in line...blah blah blah. I also have no issue with verizon. The phone I picked was easily unlocked... that is more research based..all carriers should have a Google phone that can be unlocked. Data is not an issue...WiFi is every where anyways...even at the gym. I pay just as much now as I did with sprint... but dont drop calls...and since I am military and have a wife at home with my kids...an on demand call is a must. I also know Verizon has the better freq. Band... sure in the higher MHz you will get faster speeds..but the coverage area isn't as big...its all give and take. I am rooting for sprint...but just got tired of waiting....I love capitalism and choice...so I switched to who I feel deserved my money!
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All very good reasons to switch. Yea I'd rank Verizon over ATT&t but the those locked bootloaders. I havent checking in a while but the locked sgs3 was a huge ordeal being locked. That kinda thing makes me mad. It's OUR Devices not the carriers and if I want to root then I have that right.
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On my og I get 5-10 mb in a town near my house which is unblievable :what:
Edit: sorry lol the 15-19mb is from my LTE in Chicago
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