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11 Minute GTab 10.1 Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtqXLGPzVMk&f0
It definitely doesn't look horrible. However, I don't know/can't tell if the screen is better than the Xoom's...
Also... I didn't make this video, lol.

nice video !

I was worried about the screen but then noticed that he has the brightness cranked to the maximum. This definitely looks like the tablet for me

nice video dude =) thx

really nice video..can't wait. Thank you.

Eclair~ said:
According to the video it's the same TFT LCD panel
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Every LCD is TFT LCD.

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Every LCD is TFT LCD.
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I didn't know that. Thanks (no sarcasm intended).

this video pretty much convinced me to get this over xoom !!
some of the features that the Galaxy Tab 10.1 has over the Motorola Xoom are :-
dual surround speakers
native divx play
Slimmer and lighter than the Xoom
8mp cam
FULL 1080P video recording
bigger battery
can anyone prove other wise? and what's about the screen - what screen does the xoom have?
I already own a Galaxy Tab original - thinking of getting this when out !

So are there a lot of good games for the Tab or is it just angry birds and dungeon defenders?

ofcuz there are thousands of great games! u can go youtube n search for "motorola xoom games"... there is a review of games in honeycom

fyi, there is no usb, microsd, or hdmi port in the galaxy tab 10.1

All I can say is "I'm hooked, I'm hooked, I'm hooked!" That is just what every tablet manufacturer needs to get their tablet out. It's better than a commercial and helps answer a lot of my questions. From here on, it can only get better.

aohus said:
fyi, there is no usb, microsd, or hdmi port in the galaxy tab 10.1
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It has already been said, not confirmed, that one or more of theses may be available via the propriety port on the bottom of the tablet

the specs are really impressive...
really hope it does better than the first SGT, which is sluggish for me..
It has almost everything cept perhaps true GPS, USB host, native HDMI out, and maybe even a removable battery (like the Toshiba)... One can only wish!

Want. The more I watch the video, the more I want the device.

When can I buy it? I guess by the time it is out I will be getting a xoom or ipad2. Yes I like it very much, but it might take 3-4 months befor it is out.
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The video should also say "no sdcard.. it's so special"

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 specs (WIFI) from samsung.com

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I could be confused but I think this is for the new one yet to be released.
-snip snip-
Also: No mention of processor and knowing samsung, there is a chance this page might not be up to date 100%

The GT 10.1V has a P7100 model number. From the URL it looks like this is a P7510, which sounds like what the new GT 10.1 should be.
Also I don't think the 10.1V came in white.
PS. And I think this pretty much ends any hope of a microSD slot in the wifi edition (though I think we knew that was not happening for a while now).

Well that makes up my mind I'm gonna wait till august for a tegra 3
Sent from my captivate BLAZING on firefly 3.0

Well Front camera 3MP and Rear 2MP is that true?? and records 1080P video using the 3MP camera...

Wdustin1 said:
Well that makes up my mind I'm gonna wait till august for a tegra 3
Sent from my captivate BLAZING on firefly 3.0
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What makes you think Nvidia will kill all those tabs coming to market now with tegra 2?
I think that if we see a kal-el in the shops before x-mass we are lucky!
Unless all those tabs show at MWC/CITA advertised and promised...well it sill be like back in 2010. Some of them will show up (in small numbers) some of them will not.
We will have few of them in with kal -el... come December/Jan and we will see Ipad3.
MWC2012 we will hear that this IS THE YEAR of the tablet and story will continue the same way

No mention of TouchWiz........ Maybe my prayers have been answered?

Video: 1080p playback, 720p capture Video Codec: MPEG4, H.264, H.263, 3GP (H.263+AMR) Divx/XviD, VC-1 Format: 3GP(MP4), WMV(asf), AVI(DIVX), MKV, FLV
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Looks like samsung is going to work there media codec magic!

For anyone looking for a SD solution... there doesnt seem to be a built in reader.. however on the German accessory website it has a "USB connection kit" and the description reads "Connectivity to USB stick, camera, printer, etc., SD card reading, 30pin"
http://www.samsung.de/de/Privatkund...r/EPL-1PLRBEGSTD/accdetail.aspx?atab=features

strange, it does not say PLS screen

So after clicking one of the links on the page it brings you to a hybrid 10.1 / 7 page. Looks like a work in progress. I'd take the page with a grain of salt and just keep an eye on it. I have a Samsung epic and the same type of pages popped up on the net using both new and information from older products prior to releases going live too.
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Yeah, i just removed the link. Like i said earlier, samsung seems to take old pages and use them as templates when creating new ones and puts them on the live site prematurely. They did the same thing with the Epic, its confusing so best to just wait for now.
arika44 said:
strange, it does not say PLS screen
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arika44 said:
strange, it does not say PLS screen
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Beacuse it is not PLS i is Super PLS: http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/samsung-touts-super-pls-display-as-the-evolution-of-ips-on-smart/

Video: ICS running on a tablet (Tegra 3)

I know this isnt the Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime thread, but this video gives a little taste of how ICS will look running on our Galaxy 10.1 Tabs. Even though the tablet in this video is running 4 cores, I think that when it comes to swiping and scrolling that our Samaung Tabs should see the same performance.
Video at the bottom of the article:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2396727,00.asp
Drawer transitions and folders look very cool :-D

I think this one is also interesting:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQn_1E6-iAI&feature=player_embedded
A very early ROM on Xoom, already runs pretty smooth in my opinion!

thank you for sharing videos

I'm not a tech geek by any means but could anyone shed some light as to whether ICS might help our 10.1s play high profile 1080p mkvs on our tablets? I wonder what format that 1080p video is in the youtube video.

just got a question, is that red border that appears around the screen when going "back" or opening a window is that a DEV issue or a ICS thing that stays in there.

Transitions have never excited me. They're cool the first couple of times but then get annoying. I love that they're introducing folders, that should have been in HC from the beginning. All the performance stuff is more the by-product of the Teg 3 than ICS. And what's with the size of the border around the display on the Prime? It's huge.

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I'm not a tech geek by any means but could anyone shed some light as to whether ICS might help our 10.1s play high profile 1080p mkvs on our tablets? I wonder what format that 1080p video is in the youtube video.
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Nope, the Tegra 2 just isn't powerful enough or has the right extensions to decode high profile 1080P. You need a Tegra 3 or a non-Tegra dual core for that.

is it the old kernel? i guess the ICS kernel is named starting with 3.xx.. this one in the first video has a name starting with 2.xx

ICS looks so nice. I needs it!

BarryH_GEG said:
Transitions have never excited me. They're cool the first couple of times but then get annoying. I love that they're introducing folders, that should have been in HC from the beginning. All the performance stuff is more the by-product of the Teg 3 than ICS. And what's with the size of the border around the display on the Prime? It's huge.
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pretty sure it's gotta have a larger than normal bezel to match up with a decent size keyboard/track pad that it mates with... the first one was like that too.

I can't wait for ICS on my SGT 10.1!!!

This is correct. But ICS will use the graphics acceleration in the OS itself which should increase system performance. HC would use graphics in games and certain apps. I believe ICS will run very well on tegra2 devices.

Another video from an ICS Rom on an Asus EeePad Transformer.

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Nope, the Tegra 2 just isn't powerful enough or has the right extensions to decode high profile 1080P. You need a Tegra 3 or a non-Tegra dual core for that.
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This is precisely what aggravates me about Tegra 2 -- it pales in comparison to the Samsung Exynos processor. I think nVidia botched Tegra 2, even as much as I like my Galaxy 10.1" ... hopefully Ice Cream Sandwich resolves some of the performance problems on Honeycomb.

Tegra 3 not so great as they would make us believe

iPad 2 beating it on every front. ICS may fix this but we will have to wait and see on that front.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/3
and from a 'somewhat' biased site.
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/09/tegra-3-missed-performance-goals-by-wide-margins/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/04/06/nvidia-in-full-philosophical-retreat-for-tegra-3/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/19/nvidia-tegra-roadmap-slips-a-year/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/04/a-look-at-tegra-3-3-3-and-4/

Bahahahahahahahahaha
ipad2 not so great as they would make us believe ......
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My phone has a single-core processor and my tablet has a dual-core. That's pretty damn good. If I NEED computing power, I have my quad-core i7 rocking, 8 GB puffing, ATI HD5870 running laptop that can do just about anything.
Let me know when Android can run a fully-featured version of Photoshop or something better than iMovie, I'll happy jump onboard the X-core bandwagon. I might even leave Windows behind then...

Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?

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Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?
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The software they used is right there...GLBenchmarks and Basemark. It's exactly the same as testing your frame rates for video games that are made for different platforms, ie. Windows and OSX. The games themselves have their own engines that can show you what frame rates you're running at so why should it be any different between Honeycomb and IOS.
It's the same software...
I do remember Apple fabricating their signal bars, but not their battery life. Unlike a certain website, *cough*ENGADGET*cough*, Anandtech is a reputable tech site that is more unbiased than others.
The reasons I can believe it is true?
My iPad 2 plays EVERY single video it can play (no flash of course) without fail. My Transformer? Sometimes (more often than not) it doesn't even play 360P Youtube videos without stuttering. Pathetic if you ask me.

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My iPad 2 plays EVERY single video it can play (no flash of course) without fail. My Transformer? Sometimes (more often than not) it doesn't even play 360P Youtube videos without stuttering. Pathetic if you ask me.
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If your Transformer can't play SD YouTube videos, you have a setup problem of some kind. Mine doesn't stutter at all, even on HD YouTube videos. It likewise doesn't stutter at all on high bitrate transfers of my own DVDs, which are well above the resolution and bitrate of SD YouTube vids.
Also note that Anandtech themselves clearly noted that they had problems with their initial test unit, as evidenced by the increase in wifi performance and battery life with their second unit. Until they've had time to rerun all their tests, I wouldn't put much weight in any of their original numbers.

My Transformer struggles with 720p @ High profile. How does the iPad 2 fare?

deadman3000 said:
My Transformer struggles with 720p @ High profile. How does the iPad 2 fare?
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correct me if I'm wrong..don't think iPad can handle 720p/1080p High profile either

magicpork said:
correct me if I'm wrong..don't think iPad can handle 720p/1080p High profile either
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iPad2 plays high profile 720p smoothly (B-Frames, cabac, etc). Not with the native player, but with appstore players like AVPlayerHD.
GT 10.1 and other Tegra 2 do, too, with market players like Dice and BS but they stutter on fast action scenes. iPad2 doesn't do that. I did oc my GT 10.1 and set cpu to Interactive and that gets rid of the stutter, but for my particular 10.1 Interactive leaves the tab unstable.
Never tried 1080p high profile on iPad2.

deadman3000 said:
My Transformer struggles with 720p @ High profile. How does the iPad 2 fare?
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If your struggling playng video, give BSplayer a try ... i tried dice player (as recommended) and NOTHING plays video better than BSplayer

Funny as I have been doing my own research on getting a tegra 3 or Ipad 2 or just nothing. YouTube videos work great for me. I have problems with ESPN videos on Tegra 2 compared to the OG Ipad. For the stutter, I like the close to 200.00, savings compared to the ipad.
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i sell and ipad2 before buying transformer.in video playing ipad2 is a bit more fluid,but at high profile 720p it is the same as tf,depend on which software you use for,but 100% lag free video you haven't with ipad2 and you haven't also with transformer.i suppose that tegra 3 chip with neon support included is more powerfull and generate more smooth and fluid videos than ipad2.personally i think that video playing is the only thing where tegra2 might be not exceeding,but not from an ipad2 chip but at least a tegra 3\exynos or newest qualcomm soc (with NEON as well)
correct me if i'm wrong mates...

Lack of NEON is the biggest let down of Tegera 2 IMHO. Reminds me of one of my friends with an aging AMD that had the clockrate but couldn't thunderbird on without newer instruction set extensions some games needed.
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goodintentions said:
Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?
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colonel187 said:
goodintentions said:
Let me ask simple question. How did they come up with those numbers? No, it is not a stupid question. Did they use an app to come up with those numbers? Did they hook the devices up to some kind of machine and then did measurements? What did they use?
The point I'm trying to make is since iOS and android are different platforms, if they used an app to do these measurements, they'd have to use 2 completely different apps for 2 completely different platforms. Apple has been exposed to fabricate their signal strength and battery bars count. Their OS also don't show error messages when something crashes. How do we know they didn't fabricate these numbers as well?
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It doesn't matter which software/platform. The software just measure how many fps at 720p the tablet can display. I think it's a fair comparison.
Does it matter in normal usage? i don't know. But it shows that the iPad2 GPU is better than the tegra 3 in this case.

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iPad 2 beating it on every front. ICS may fix this but we will have to wait and see on that front.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/3
and from a 'somewhat' biased site.
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/09/tegra-3-missed-performance-goals-by-wide-margins/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/04/06/nvidia-in-full-philosophical-retreat-for-tegra-3/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/19/nvidia-tegra-roadmap-slips-a-year/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/04/a-look-at-tegra-3-3-3-and-4/
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Dont forget Honeycomb is software rendering, ICS has hardware rendering (like the iPad).

Spidey01 said:
Lack of NEON is the biggest let down of Tegera 2 IMHO. Reminds me of one of my friends with an aging AMD that had the clockrate but couldn't thunderbird on without newer instruction set extensions some games needed.
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Thisthisthis. Most of your media playback issues? This is the reason. Except for the "SD YOUTUBE LAGS OMG SO PATHETIC" guy, which either has terrible internet or is doing something very, very wrong. My TF plays back high prof 720p no problem with Dice. If tegra2 had NEON, we'd have 1080p30f.
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Dont forget Honeycomb is software rendering, ICS has hardware rendering (like the iPad).
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That kinda has nothing to do with this...
Sent from my Transformer TF101

deadman3000 said:
iPad 2 beating it on every front. ICS may fix this but we will have to wait and see on that front.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5163/asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-nvidia-tegra-3-review/3
and from a 'somewhat' biased site.
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/11/09/tegra-3-missed-performance-goals-by-wide-margins/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/04/06/nvidia-in-full-philosophical-retreat-for-tegra-3/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/19/nvidia-tegra-roadmap-slips-a-year/
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/08/04/a-look-at-tegra-3-3-3-and-4/
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Uhm, I like Charlie. I really do.
But sadly, as far as his Tegra stories are concerned, he seems to live in parallel (or maybe even perpendicular) universe.
Tegra2 he ridiculed so much and went as far as to claim that it will not get a single design win ended up cornering ENTIRE goddamn tablet market. Pretty much 100% of Honeycomb devices run on T2 (whether we like it or not).
Same with his "sky is falling, Tegra roadmap slips for a whole year". Well, the roadmap might have slipped (or was that just dumb marketing projections, not the roadmap itself), but the second part of the story is that even after slip, nvidia is still a whole year ahead compared to competition (4 core Kraits are scheduled market introduction Q4Y12).
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If your struggling playng video, give BSplayer a try ... i tried dice player (as recommended) and NOTHING plays video better than BSplayer
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Both (newest BSplayer, before ovt'11 release, it didn't even have ahardware acceleration) players are still not prefect and drop frames on panning or action scenes.
They also have bunch of non-performance issues:
-DICE player cannot playback 90% of embedded subs (and for those it can read, it will start showing them only after 30 seconds of movie have passed) out there and has ugly, undocumented GUI.
BSplayer suffers from nasty subtitle desyncing issue and its seeking implementation is utterly dysfunctional (you can only seek in random 15-30 secs jumps)
Oh, and both players suffer performance hit when streaming via SMB.
So yeah, for media consumption device(with 399-499 pricetag!; You could buy two netbooks for that money), Tegra2 tablets ****ing suck.

Of course what the Anadtech seem to conveniently "forget" is that the Transofmers display is much higher resolution than the iPad2 and therefore more pixels to populate...
Perhaps I should make a iPad2 killer tablet that 120 pixels x 120 pixels that downscales 720p video at can play at insane framerates but looks ****. I'm sure the idiots at Anadtech would love it...

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Of course what the Anadtech seem to conveniently "forget" is that the Transofmers display is much higher resolution than the iPad2 and therefore more pixels to populate...
Perhaps I should make a iPad2 killer tablet that 120 pixels x 120 pixels that downscales 720p video at can play at insane framerates but looks ****. I'm sure the idiots at Anadtech would love it...
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Afaik both ipad and TF simply upscale the games.

[Q] Close to the Nexus 11?

I can't post links since this is my first post, but I found a tablet called the Voyo A15 which uses the Samsung Exynos 5250 clocked at 2.0 GHz.
Has anyone seen one of these in real life? I was really excited when I heard the rumor of the Nexus 11, but that seems to have faded away. I really wanted a bigger screen (mostly for comic book reading), but no-one seems to be making 11.6 inch android tablets for sale in the USA. This has the same processor as the N10...has anyone here had any experience with Chinese tablets? It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it? Thanks for any insight you guys might have...

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I can't post links since this is my first post, but I found a tablet called the Voyo A15 which uses the Samsung Exynos 5250 clocked at 2.0 GHz.
Has anyone seen one of these in real life? I was really excited when I heard the rumor of the Nexus 11, but that seems to have faded away. I really wanted a bigger screen (mostly for comic book reading), but no-one seems to be making 11.6 inch android tablets for sale in the USA. This has the same processor as the N10...has anyone here had any experience with Chinese tablets? It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it? Thanks for any insight you guys might have...
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You answered your own question when you said its Chinese
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gsx955 said:
It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it?
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Is it shipping with a 840x480 resolution close to what most Chinese tablets (i've seen anyway) use? And is it really using a Samsung chip? Not, say, a "Samsug Exnos" chip or some bs? Does it throttle within seconds from 2.0GHz down to its real frequency?
Sounds a bit suspicious imo... But I haven't looked into it lol

espionage724 said:
Is it shipping with a 840x480 resolution close to what most Chinese tablets (i've seen anyway) use? And is it really using a Samsung chip? Not, say, a "Samsug Exnos" chip or some bs? Does it throttle within seconds from 2.0GHz down to its real frequency?
Sounds a bit suspicious imo... But I haven't looked into it lol
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My phone has an 840 by 480 resolution so for a tablet that suck. I'd say don't buy it. It'll be a waste of money.
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espionage724 said:
Is it shipping with a 840x480 resolution close to what most Chinese tablets (i've seen anyway) use? And is it really using a Samsung chip? Not, say, a "Samsug Exnos" chip or some bs? Does it throttle within seconds from 2.0GHz down to its real frequency?
Sounds a bit suspicious imo... But I haven't looked into it lol
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It has a 1920 x 1080 IPS screen with the real Samsung chip in it...here are the specs:
Model
voyo a15
Operation System
Android 4.2.2
Screen
11.6 inch Capacitive Multi-touch 10 Points
Resolution
1920x1080 pixels
CPU
samsung Exynos 5250 dual core 1.8GHz ARM Cortex-A15
GPU
Mali T604
RAM
2GB DDR3
ROM
16GB
Webcam
Dual-Camera:Front,2.0 Mega Pixel, Rear, 2.0 Mega Pixel
Wireless
Wifi 802.11a b/g/n
3G
Supporting External 3G Modem
G-sensor
Support
Bluetooth
Yes
HDMI
1080p
GPS
No
Power
Battery
11500mAh
Working Time
Up to 8 Hours
Power Device
AC Adapter Input 100/240V
Device Specification
Color
front black, back silver color
Dimensions
293×188×9.0mm
Net Weight
700g
Software Support
Office
Support MS Office Word, PPT, Excel
Gaming
Support 3D gaming
Email
Gmail, POP3/SMTP/IMAP4
Others
No
Multi-Media
Video
Support 1080P, RM, RMVB, AVI(H.264/H.263), MOV, WMV, MP4, ASF, 3GP, TS, etc.
Audio
Support MP3, WMA, WAV, APE, FLAC, AAC, OGG, etc.
Picture
Support JPG, BMP, PNG, TIFF.
E-Book
Support TXT, PDF, CHM, HTML, PDB, UMD, FB2, etc.
Ports
1 x USB
1 x TF Card Slot
1 x DC Jack
1 x Earphone Jack
1 x HDMI
What's in the box
1 x voyo a15 Tablet PC
1 x Charger
Looks good on paper...and is really cheap. Might be good for a comic reader. There is an unboxing video of it where they say the cpu runs at a max of 2.0 GHz.Are there any other (non-Chinese made) 11.6 inch high res tablets coming out?

Don't buy anything from China. I gurentee you when you get the tablet it will say all those specs and mabey the screen will be HD, but the processor will probably be like a 1 core 800mhz or something with 512mb of ram.
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gsx955 said:
I can't post links since this is my first post, but I found a tablet called the Voyo A15 which uses the Samsung Exynos 5250 clocked at 2.0 GHz.
Has anyone seen one of these in real life? I was really excited when I heard the rumor of the Nexus 11, but that seems to have faded away. I really wanted a bigger screen (mostly for comic book reading), but no-one seems to be making 11.6 inch android tablets for sale in the USA. This has the same processor as the N10...has anyone here had any experience with Chinese tablets? It's readily available for about $290 shipped to the US...am I crazy for even considering it? Thanks for any insight you guys might have...
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Anyway, If it's comic book reading you want, the Nexus 10 is perfect, at least for me. I don't understand what difference one more inch on the screen will make, but I do know that reading comic books on the Nexus 10 screen is an amazing experience.
Sent from my GTN7100 or the Nexus 10, heaven knows.
Those who help noobs go to heaven. True story.

SacGuru said:
Anyway, If it's comic book reading you want, the Nexus 10 is perfect, at least for me. I don't understand what difference one more inch on the screen will make, but I do know that reading comic books on the Nexus 10 screen is an amazing experience.
Sent from my GTN7100 or the Nexus 10, heaven knows.
Those who help noobs go to heaven. True story.
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I already read them on a 10 inch screen (Toshiba Thrive) but I find the pages are a little smaller than actual size, and I guess my eyes are going as I age, lol! I actually wanted them to be a little bigger than actual size, without scrolling...otherwise I would already have the N10.

I would like to see a refreshed Nexus 10 with a new design. Should let Sony design it this time. Their Xperia Z line is beautiful.

Itaintrite said:
I would like to see a refreshed Nexus 10 with a new design. Should let Sony design it this time. Their Xperia Z line is beautiful.
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Sure, nice looking, but screen angles aren't good.

lKBZl said:
Sure, nice looking, but screen angles aren't good.
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Didn't say it was perfect Just beautifully designed. Throw in a hi-res Samsung screen and we're good to go.

I wasn't aware of any non-Samsung devices being able to use Samsung's chips? I mean I'm sure Samsung could allow it; I just never heard of them doing so...

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It looks legit...how bad could this be, lol! Are there any higher quality 11.6 tablets out there?

That site is legit. Send them an email to confirm the specs. They have pretty good customer service.
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The tablet is legit, its just that are tiny bugs in Chinese hardware that bug you to no end. (Poor WiFi strength, screen angles, app compatibility even with basics like YouTube) Id advise against it. Buy a Windows 8 tab with Haswell if you're looking for bigger sizes.
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plznote said:
The tablet is legit, its just that are tiny bugs in Chinese hardware that bug you to no end. (Poor WiFi strength, screen angles, app compatibility even with basics like YouTube) Id advise against it. Buy a Windows 8 tab with Haswell if you're looking for bigger sizes.
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I agree with everything, though w8 tablets are way more expensive.

espionage724 said:
I wasn't aware of any non-Samsung devices being able to use Samsung's chips? I mean I'm sure Samsung could allow it; I just never heard of them doing so...
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Well, iPads ran Samsung hardware for years.

Ipads run the best of samsung components better said ..
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Well, iPads ran Samsung hardware for years.
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Sorta kinda. Samsung is a major supplier for any number of parts (from screens to silicon), but the chipsets actually driving iOS devices are customized builds by Apple. Samsung is, at least in regards to apple in charge of the fabrication, not the design.

lKBZl said:
I agree with everything, though w8 tablets are way more expensive.
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I also agree, but I really don't want a windows tablet. Honestly, now that I started questioning this, I am finding myself more curious. I guess if it sucks, it wouldn't be the first $300 I have wasted on disappointing tech. I'm this close to getting anyway, even though I realize it might be a mistake...but what if it as good as it seems, lol? Man, why do I agonize over stuff like this...