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New Tabs may too have Tegra 2 :D

Hi
For me it is like this:
No Tegra 2 = No Tegra 2 Gaming = SAY NO to Galaxy Tab
However, things may be good and Galaxy Tab 8.9 and hopefully 10.1 too may well have a Tegra 2 and yet may be able to do do full HD videos!
http://mp4nation.net/blog/2011/03/catching-up-preview-of-the-galaxy-tab-8-9/
Perhaps a bit of a late exposure on our part, but here we have a users experience preview with the Galaxy Tab 8.9, thanks to Stewart Wolpin of Uberizmo. To brief you before we delve in, the Galaxy Tab 8.9 is powered by NVIDIA’s Tegra 2 processor, runs Android 3.0 Honeycomb and has an 8.9-inch screen with a resolution of 1280 x 800.
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/4233/...1-89-smaller-than-ipad-2-competitively-priced
Samsung's 8.9 prototypes at the show floor had NVIDIA's Tegra 2 under the hood.
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Although not everybody may be pleased, but I see it as WIN WIN if it has Tegra 2 plus can do full HD as well

Whatever. I just hope the new Tabs are smoother than what I've seen so far on Honeycomb...

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Someone said bla bla bla ...
Still no hard proof ... no official info.
Chandelure said:
According to the Vietnamese guy, it's Tegra 2. CAN YOU PLEASE READ OTHER THREADS BEFORE POSTING THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP A MILLION TIMES.
LINK: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1036796&page=6
A couple posts down someone quoted him, I'm too lazy to find the OP.
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gogol said:
Someone said bla bla bla ...
Still no hard proof ... no official info.
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Exactly, but I'm inclined to believe it will be T2 chips. I think Google was pretty strict about that.

aaksheytalwar said:
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Tegra 2 can do full HD as well
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Define full HD on tegra 2

720p and 1080p renders the same on a 1280* display anyway, 1080p will just rape your battery further, so it doesn't even matter.

epicfailguy2 said:
720p and 1080p renders the same on a 1280* display anyway, 1080p will just rape your battery further, so it doesn't even matter.
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It would matter if the HDMI out could do 1080p (maybe it will in the future). I for one intend to attach my tablet to full HD screen for watching movies (if it will be up to the task).

Magnesus said:
It would matter if the HDMI out could do 1080p (maybe it will in the future). I for one intend to attach my tablet to full HD screen for watching movies (if it will be up to the task).
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Ditto. I'll be using my tab for other things, and if I want video I hook it up to my TV. I'd like it to be samsung's own, but the chances are pretty slim.

Yes it is precisely for this reason that I returned my Xoom : it just won't play any HD (720p or 1080p) that you throw at it without transcoding. I.e. no high profile support for H.264 streams. And I 'can' transcode but why should I invest so much time? Tegra 2 has been a disappointment in this respect and perhaps Tegra 3 will correct this.

I am hoping the new Tabs will not have Tegra 2.
I played a 720p video on a Xoom and on a Galaxy S and the video was noticibly smoother on the Galaxy S!

veeeee said:
I am hoping the new Tabs will not have Tegra 2.
I played a 720p video on a Xoom and on a Galaxy S and the video was noticibly smoother on the Galaxy S!
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Wow really I thought the 600000 less pixels it would have to render every frame would be detrimental to the performance.
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Guys. I was the vietnamese guy contacted the youtube video reviewer and his website buddy. Well one claimed it to be the tegra 2 while the reviewer said he had no idea. just wanted to clear things up a bit and sorry for any kind of mess I caused.
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Anyone noticed that NVidias Tegra mini-site ( http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-supertablets.html ) links to the Samsung GT 10.1/8.9 mini site ( http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab )?

bcmobile said:
Anyone noticed that NVidias Tegra mini-site ( http://www.nvidia.com/object/tegra-supertablets.html ) links to the Samsung GT 10.1/8.9 mini site ( http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxytab )?
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i reckon that cuz it was ment to link to the now 10.1v. if you have a look at the link its pretty generic. its ends in galaxy tab. so it could mean anything.

50-3 said:
Wow really I thought the 600000 less pixels it would have to render every frame would be detrimental to the performance.
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Decoding a video versus rendering a frame in a 3D game are two very different things.
Decoding a 720p and displaying it on a 3" screen versus a 50" screen takes exactly the same amount of processing power, no matter how many more pixels the 50" screen has. The video is not going to gain any more details!

Hmm, if its Tegra 2, I might most probably go for a Transformer, instead of the Tab

And why?
If both use the sama Tegra 2 ....
Srikar_NBK said:
Hmm, if its Tegra 2, I might most probably go for a Transformer, instead of the Tab
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gogol said:
And why?
If both use the sama Tegra 2 ....
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Probably because the Tegra 2 is weak at HD videos. It cannot play high-profile .mkv videos.
I am in the same boat. If any of the new Galaxy tab has Tegra 2, I will not buy it.

gogol said:
And why?
If both use the sama Tegra 2 ....
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Probably because the Transformer is available and is likely cheaper than the Tab.
I own a Galaxy Tab 7" and a Transformer, and I'm interested to see how the Galaxy Tab 8.9 turns out, as it could replace both. However Tegra2 video playback is woeful compared to the Hummingbird, so if the 8.9 doesn't ship with Exynos I will likely pass and keep my GT7/Transformer combo.
Regards,
Dave
P.S. The Transformer is a lovely bit of kit, but Tegra2 is thus far underwhelming for video playback.

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 specs (WIFI) from samsung.com

Removed link for now
I could be confused but I think this is for the new one yet to be released.
-snip snip-
Also: No mention of processor and knowing samsung, there is a chance this page might not be up to date 100%

The GT 10.1V has a P7100 model number. From the URL it looks like this is a P7510, which sounds like what the new GT 10.1 should be.
Also I don't think the 10.1V came in white.
PS. And I think this pretty much ends any hope of a microSD slot in the wifi edition (though I think we knew that was not happening for a while now).

Well that makes up my mind I'm gonna wait till august for a tegra 3
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Well Front camera 3MP and Rear 2MP is that true?? and records 1080P video using the 3MP camera...

Wdustin1 said:
Well that makes up my mind I'm gonna wait till august for a tegra 3
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What makes you think Nvidia will kill all those tabs coming to market now with tegra 2?
I think that if we see a kal-el in the shops before x-mass we are lucky!
Unless all those tabs show at MWC/CITA advertised and promised...well it sill be like back in 2010. Some of them will show up (in small numbers) some of them will not.
We will have few of them in with kal -el... come December/Jan and we will see Ipad3.
MWC2012 we will hear that this IS THE YEAR of the tablet and story will continue the same way

No mention of TouchWiz........ Maybe my prayers have been answered?

Video: 1080p playback, 720p capture Video Codec: MPEG4, H.264, H.263, 3GP (H.263+AMR) Divx/XviD, VC-1 Format: 3GP(MP4), WMV(asf), AVI(DIVX), MKV, FLV
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Looks like samsung is going to work there media codec magic!

For anyone looking for a SD solution... there doesnt seem to be a built in reader.. however on the German accessory website it has a "USB connection kit" and the description reads "Connectivity to USB stick, camera, printer, etc., SD card reading, 30pin"
http://www.samsung.de/de/Privatkund...r/EPL-1PLRBEGSTD/accdetail.aspx?atab=features

strange, it does not say PLS screen

So after clicking one of the links on the page it brings you to a hybrid 10.1 / 7 page. Looks like a work in progress. I'd take the page with a grain of salt and just keep an eye on it. I have a Samsung epic and the same type of pages popped up on the net using both new and information from older products prior to releases going live too.
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Yeah, i just removed the link. Like i said earlier, samsung seems to take old pages and use them as templates when creating new ones and puts them on the live site prematurely. They did the same thing with the Epic, its confusing so best to just wait for now.
arika44 said:
strange, it does not say PLS screen
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arika44 said:
strange, it does not say PLS screen
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Beacuse it is not PLS i is Super PLS: http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/01/samsung-touts-super-pls-display-as-the-evolution-of-ips-on-smart/

[Q] Anyone got 3.1 OTA update?

Would appreciate if you all could post in when you receive yur 3.1 update.
Please do state yur location.
Tq

They said end of June on their facebook page, I wouldn't be expecting it for a couple more weeks yet.

i'm not sure what the big rush for.

still use 135build
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edgie168 said:
i'm not sure what the big rush for.
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i think people expect it to fix each and everyone of their problems... when all it'll likely do is ad more twitter/facebook bloatware into the tablet.. Hahaha.

Fluffbutt said:
i think people expect it to fix each and everyone of their problems... when all it'll likely do is ad more twitter/facebook bloatware into the tablet.. Hahaha.
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I want to use my Xbox 360 Controller to play me some emulators!!!

I'm looking forward to proper mouse support, and hoping the cell problem is fixed. I also want 1080.

netham45 said:
I'm looking forward to proper mouse support, and hoping the cell problem is fixed. I also want 1080.
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same here....1080....

Didn't 1080p support come with the recent minor update? I thought I read that it did somewhere, I might be wrong though. Lol

lord_voldemort666 said:
Didn't 1080p support come with the recent minor update? I thought I read that it did somewhere, I might be wrong though. Lol
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Still not had that minor one here in the uk!

Had the update to 1.139.05 in the UK but still no 1080 yet. That and mouse support is what i'm looking forward to.
I was born with a bit of patience so can wait happily a few weeks more.
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i didn't realize you could tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 10" screen.
seriously, folks crying about no 1080p support on a 10" tablet is just silly. you can't even REALLY tell the difference unless you compare a -52" tv to a 52"+ tv, so how are you going to "see" the difference on a 10" screen?

edgie168 said:
i didn't realize you could tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 10" screen.
seriously, folks crying about no 1080p support on a 10" tablet is just silly. you can't even REALLY tell the difference unless you compare a -52" tv to a 52"+ tv, so how are you going to "see" the difference on a 10" screen?
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agree +1
the screen of the tablet is not meant to be 1080p anyway...
and.... for me really so far
What is the point to get HD capability on a tablet ? are you going to take HD video of your holidays with a TABLET ????? should you buy a CAMERA.
take some shoot yeah but for real quality... we are all agree that we need to buy the devices meant to be use for this.
hehehe
soon the 52" tablet in HD....

edgie168 said:
i didn't realize you could tell the difference between 720p and 1080p on a 10" screen.
seriously, folks crying about no 1080p support on a 10" tablet is just silly. you can't even REALLY tell the difference unless you compare a -52" tv to a 52"+ tv, so how are you going to "see" the difference on a 10" screen?
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I'm pretty sure they are talking about when hooked up to a TV through hdmi...

lord_voldemort666 said:
I'm pretty sure they are talking about when hooked up to a TV through hdmi...
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so, what, 720p isn't good enough right now?

the point is
if you want watch movie HD on your big TV well... you should not rely on a tablet to read them.... and buy a HDBox
I think really the tablet should not be NOW but later with technology and better screen... Full HD

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edgie168 said:
so, what, 720p isn't good enough right now?
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I'm not saying that. I'm just saying they aren't talking about 1080p on the tablets screen. Maybe some of them have bigger TVs though, in whch 720 is NOT good enough. All I know is that I can see a huge difference 720 and 1080 on my little 19 inch TV, so on a bigger TV it would blow.

sanaell said:
agree +1
the screen of the tablet is not meant to be 1080p anyway...
and.... for me really so far
What is the point to get HD capability on a tablet ? are you going to take HD video of your holidays with a TABLET ????? should you buy a CAMERA.
take some shoot yeah but for real quality... we are all agree that we need to buy the devices meant to be use for this.
hehehe
soon the 52" tablet in HD....
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You can tell the difference, if you take picture on a 15mega pixel zoomed in. Then you can see the difference..

what emulatiors are you running. New to the tablet scene and can't find a good gba emulator that works. Any suggestions?

new demo video with touchwiz

funny how they photoshopped "Samsung" onto the front of the tab on all of their videos.

The most interesting piece is something about support of multi kind of video format and user does not need to convert!!!
Is this because of touchwiz has better video player? probably ...

some pretty heavy editing there. theres no way my tab runs that smooth.

radiohead14 said:
funny how they photoshopped "Samsung" onto the front of the tab on all of their videos.
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I saw a TV ad last week for the galaxy tab 10.1, and it also had the "Samsung" logo plastered on the front bezel. I think they want to remind viewers that they are not looking at an iPad/generic tablet commercial.

Could be just a simple Samsung sticker.
It looks like it doesn't suck. And those mini apps sound like a good idea.

gogol said:
The most interesting piece is something about support of multi kind of video format and user does not need to convert!!!
Is this because of touchwiz has better video player? probably ...
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In stock honeycomb you dont have a separate video player app.
Have heard that the tabs that now ships with touchwiz has a dedicated videplayer app like the SGT 7" have. And that the support for divx/xvid is better.
lets us hope that with touchwiz and Samsung we can get a btter video experience like we are used to with the 7" Tab that worked so good playing video.
Does some one know if the Galaxy 10.1 shiped with touchwiz is divx certified like the 7" Is?
Edit: when they shows the hdmi adapter it looks that they also have connected it to the charger, if you have to have it connected to a charger to make it work it will suck.
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only thing i was impressed with in that video was the book cover. Need to have that. Hate this stupid belkin one i have from bestbuy
Btw its friggin 2011 when will these companies start hiring editors whose native language is english when producing videos and documentation in english. "indivisual"???

anyone know what that other icon is in the bar at the bottom?

Screenshot IIRC

Lol @ "tap life"
Any word on whether not these features can be turned on or off?
Worried it may make things sluggish.
Do like the app while still in app functionality.
Just a reminder of how every once in a blue these skins do provide functionalities that should be default in android.

bd85 said:
In stock honeycomb you dont have a separate video player app.
Have heard that the tabs that now ships with touchwiz has a dedicated videplayer app like the SGT 7" have. And that the support for divx/xvid is better.
lets us hope that with touchwiz and Samsung we can get a btter video experience like we are used to with the 7" Tab that worked so good playing video.
Does some one know if the Galaxy 10.1 shiped with touchwiz is divx certified like the 7" Is?
Edit: when they shows the hdmi adapter it looks that they also have connected it to the charger, if you have to have it connected to a charger to make it work it will suck.
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Video is as good as it's going to get. Tegra 2 is simply not capable enough.
Id be more interested in knowing whether or not portrait mode lag is addressed.

xManMythLegend said:
Video is as good as it's going to get. Tegra 2 is simply not capable enough.
Id be more interested in knowing whether or not portrait mode lag is addressed.
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Well the video did say play your movies without converting
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thatdude90210 said:
Could be just a simple Samsung sticker.
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You could see the logo moving around on top of the tab on parts of the video. Definitely edited on

Everybody says that. Moboplayer plays just about everything with no conversion already. Playing everything back smoothly at 24-30 fps is a different story.

I believe when the Galaxy S came out it was one of the first phones to play DivX videos stock and it did a good job of it too... better than Mobo player does now I believe... and that was before anything else was around. Could be the case again?

What is next to the head phone jack (6:23 seconds), looks like a SD card slot???

deppeler said:
What is next to the head phone jack (6:23 seconds), looks like a SD card slot???
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looks to be a slot to insert the SIM card...for the 3G/4G/LTE tabs

gordita said:
looks to be a slot to insert the SIM card...for the 3G/4G/LTE tabs
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That would make sense

LevitateJay said:
I believe when the Galaxy S came out it was one of the first phones to play DivX videos stock and it did a good job of it too... better than Mobo player does now I believe... and that was before anything else was around. Could be the case again?
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This is true. The Touchwiz video player on my Epic (1ghz hummingbird) was much better than moboplayer. I'm really hoping Touchwiz makes the video playback at least equal to that - it was incredible.

Galaxy tab 10.1

Hi, just bought the above but already disappointed with the price / performance ratio and think of returning it for a xoom as I can get double the disk space for £80 less money + I get a HDMI port.
I am finding it cannot proccess 1080p video on youtube which it is supposed to be able to do, it can do 720p but suprisingly using DICE it can do 720p high profile movies files (mkv) pretty well to, overlcocked to 1.6 (not getting hot) it can almost do 1080p high profile too.
I know the limitaions with Terga regards to video but I thought it was supposed to be able to 1080p youtube as this is main or base profile.
Any other advantages / disadvantages?
Are there any fully working 3.2 wfi UK ROMS?
Cheers.

what is the point to watch 1080 on 10.1 inches screen? I just don't understand. btw, xoom can't play 1080 YouTube videos either.

da.trute said:
Hi, just bought the above but already disappointed with the price / performance ratio and think of returning it for a xoom as I can get double the disk space for £80 less money + I get a HDMI port.
I am finding it cannot proccess 1080p video on youtube which it is supposed to be able to do, it can do 720p but suprisingly using DICE it can do 720p high profile movies files (mkv) pretty well to, overlcocked to 1.6 (not getting hot) it can almost do 1080p high profile too.
I know the limitaions with Terga regards to video but I thought it was supposed to be able to 1080p youtube as this is main or base profile.
Any other advantages / disadvantages?
Are there any fully working 3.2 wfi UK ROMS?
Cheers.
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Read this thread for info on watching 1080P on Xoom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=17470643#post17470643

tritran18518 said:
what is the point to watch 1080 on 10.1 inches screen? I just don't understand. btw, xoom can't play 1080 YouTube videos either.
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There are two reasons I can think of from the top of my head.
1. No need to convert 1080p videos if that is what someone already has.
2. Someone may want to use Xoom to playback a video to a 1080p TV.

Techno79 said:
2. Someone may want to use Xoom to playback a video to a 1080p TV.
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The HDMI port hast only 720p output, so this makes no sense.
btw i am not able to play 1080p main profile without lags

Iceananas said:
The HDMI port hast only 720p output, so this makes no sense.
btw i am not able to play 1080p main profile without lags
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Ah ok, I didn't realise this aspect. I would want my tablet to be able to output 1080p via it's video out connectivity.
The other point still stands, some people have 1080p videos as part of their video collection. As there's many other devices that can support full 1080p video. It would be really annoying for those people to have to convert these videos and store two copies (one at 720p and another at the 1080p). It's far easier if their tablet could play 1080p so you can throw anything at it and it'll just play it.

This thread is interesting.. I was about to get the Galaxy Tab 10.1 because of the much better screen and lighter body weight..
Should I keep the Xoom instead??

For 1080p don't buy anything now, wait for kal-el.

Managed to brick my Xoom last night whilst installing an boot image (dont ask for details I may cry) so I am taking it back for a refund today as PCworld have kindly agreed to do so. ( I may have ommitted a few details of the fault with the device).
One definite advantage to the samsung is odin, no silly bollocks with adb and 20 step rooting and unlocking, piece of piss on the tab, although have you seen the root on the eepad transformer?, yeah you only need to do it once but what a faff.
I have decided my only problem with the Gtab is (I can live without the HDMI onboard and even USB) is space, with a couple of movies, two audio books and only 4 games I was already running out of space with no means to upgrade, this is a apple-esque fail and I have to say they deserve all the **** they are getting in the courts for apple copying, it just is an ipad 2 running android.

da.trute said:
Managed to brick my Xoom last night whilst installing an boot image (dont ask for details I may cry)
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Can you share details
BTW:I Have flashed 9 times factory image.
If you do rihtly rooting or installing custom recovery or even going back to stock is just 5 minute process.(Touch wood)

rohit3192 said:
Can you share details
BTW:I Have flashed 9 times factory image.
If you do rihtly rooting or installing custom recovery or even going back to stock is just 5 minute process.(Touch wood)
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You are going to have to trust me its deader than a Diana.

da.trute said:
One definite advantage to the samsung is odin, no silly bollocks with adb and 20 step rooting and unlocking
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Uh, "adb" (and "fastboot") is what Google (and everyone else) uses and works perfectly. Odin is some Windows-only hack, not sure how that's an "advantage" at all?

originally I was waiting for the Galaxy tab but the more I read on it, and seeing the price, I decided to go with the xoom for the following reasons in no particular order.
1. Xoom is pure android, I suppose this doesn't matter for all you flashers but it does to me.
2. Ports, and internal sd card slot, usb, hdmi. all of these are extra peripherals on the tab and I don't want to go searching for them when i need them, again might not be a problem for some but it is for me.
3 Price. for the same price as a 16gb tab you can get a 32 that includes all of the ports so more bang for my buck imo.
Advantages of the tab over the xoom..
1 weight, the tab weighs nothing the xoom can break your wrists off depending how you hold it. I've gotten used to manipulating my xoom now so it's no longer an issue but still an advantage the samsung has over xoom
2 screen res. samsung make beautiful screens, much more beautiful than the xoom. Not that the xoom is aweful it just looks like crap next to a galaxy, but then so does everything.
my opinion make of it what you will

Samsung screen is color rich but I think Motorola screen has natural colors.
Sometimes colors on Samsung feel artificial.

Captain Geezer said:
originally I was waiting for the Galaxy tab but the more I read on it, and seeing the price, I decided to go with the xoom for the following reasons in no particular order.
1. Xoom is pure android, I suppose this doesn't matter for all you flashers but it does to me.
2. Ports, and internal sd card slot, usb, hdmi. all of these are extra peripherals on the tab and I don't want to go searching for them when i need them, again might not be a problem for some but it is for me.
3 Price. for the same price as a 16gb tab you can get a 32 that includes all of the ports so more bang for my buck imo.
Advantages of the tab over the xoom..
1 weight, the tab weighs nothing the xoom can break your wrists off depending how you hold it. I've gotten used to manipulating my xoom now so it's no longer an issue but still an advantage the samsung has over xoom
2 screen res. samsung make beautiful screens, much more beautiful than the xoom. Not that the xoom is aweful it just looks like crap next to a galaxy, but then so does everything.
my opinion make of it what you will
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Cheers for the feedback. The 2 issues I have with the Xoom are weight and screen.
I think waiting for Kal-el is probably the best thing for me to do, although I am interested to see what the Gtab7.7 looks + speed wise when its released.
My Xoom isnt really that bad IMO, I've got the internal 32Gb + SD 32Gb storage, which certainly beats out the Gtab10.1 for sure.