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Froyo Touch Screen Fix?

I suppose the rumors weren't true, then?

halorin said:
I suppose the rumors weren't true, then?
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I saw someone on here posting a quote about the multi-touch fix... lemme find it
by Paul22000:
Also "A scale gesture detector API provides improved definition of multi-touch events."
I wonder if that means the N1's multitouch axes will be fixed for gaming!

halorin said:
I suppose the rumors weren't true, then?
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since nobody has froyo yet, we dont know if it was fixed or not. i really hope they did though.

Thanks for the responses, guys. I guess in hindsight it might have been good to leave out any negative things in such a positive conference.
But still, some mention would have been comforting.

halorin said:
Thanks for the responses, guys. I guess in hindsight it might have been good to leave out any negative things in such a positive conference.
But still, some mention would have been comforting.
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I feel the same way halorin. It's natural to voice displeasure over something important missed in an update (I would have loved 360* rotation, colored trackball, fm radio, etc) but I know your happy about the update when it does occur and a great guy to have on the forum
All progress is still progress toward perfection, no matter how small.

Thing is, they were just demoing the OS, not device specific things like the N1's trackball & whether it has working FM etc.

Very valid point, Rusty.

Yup, each device will have their own seperate updates with device exclusive things.

Rusty! said:
Thing is, they were just demoing the OS, not device specific things like the N1's trackball & whether it has working FM etc.
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*in Kramer voice* ........ you just blew my mind...

ap3604 said:
I saw someone on here posting a quote about the multi-touch fix... lemme find it
by Paul22000:
Also "A scale gesture detector API provides improved definition of multi-touch events."
I wonder if that means the N1's multitouch axes will be fixed for gaming!
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That quote is from the highlights web page:
http://developer.android.com/sdk/android-2.2-highlights.html
The axis problem can never be fixed 100% because the hardware doesn't report enough info to do it for all cases, but currently it is pretty bad and I think better drivers/software could get it close. I believe that Cyanogen's ROMs have had some tweaks that have greatly improved its responsiveness for some time now so perhaps the Android engineers adopted similar fixes. It will hopefully get good enough over time that you'd have to know exactly how the sensors work and deliberately try to fool the drivers in order to get it confused.

I tested a nexus one on froyo today at google i/o, some things that were absent, colored track ball, touch screen wise they didn't have any multi touch analysis program installed, but just pinching around I don't detect any notable differences, so i'm guessing no to those 2 features on nexus, at least on their current build

I was also at I/O and while I did play with a few different Nexus Ones that were loaded with FroYo, I was unable to determine if any screen fixes were applied.
I asked a few times and each time I was politely told that they could not talk about anything that was not already made public (fair enough btw).
However, pinching and zooming on maps seemed to be smoother (not sure if it just my impression or some actual change) and it seemed to respond overall to my finger movements more smoothly.
Also, some games that I demoed on a few different Nexus Ones did employ finger gestures and those games functioned flawlessly from the touch perspective.
I am not sure that translates into any real fix or just my biases, but I am putting it out here for whatever it is worth.
Dan

dan1431 said:
I was also at I/O and while I did play with a few different Nexus Ones that were loaded with FroYo...
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Did you notice if there was 360 rotation? ie could you flip it from 12 to 3 O'Clock clockwise and get it to rotate to landscape when in a rotating app like Maps?

logger said:
Did you notice if there was 360 rotation? ie could you flip it from 12 to 3 O'Clock clockwise and get it to rotate to landscape when in a rotating app like Maps?
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I hate to admit this, but I did not even think about testing that feature.
Dan

Dorick said:
I tested a nexus one on froyo today at google i/o, some things that were absent, colored track ball, touch screen wise they didn't have any multi touch analysis program installed, but just pinching around I don't detect any notable differences, so i'm guessing no to those 2 features on nexus, at least on their current build
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Dorick, by any chance have you noticed wifi-n connection?

I'm almost certain from the API improvement and UI modifications listed on the Android SDK site that we have a software fix for the crazy multitouch issue.
Having said that, it means the screen won't go crazy when the paths "swap". But, it's still limited to two touchpoints and not 10 like the 3000 series screen.
A fix is a fix though. =)

Personally if the have fixed up pinch zooming somewhat and made it smoother that will cover me 99% of the way as I use the device so that will be pretty much a fix assuming we actually see it in the official N1 rom.

Quick handson for android 2.1 on X10

Hey Guys
i made a small report about IFA in Berlin and i also tried the Android 2.1 update for X10 in a not completed state.....
you can see it here:
starts @ 3:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNAr0_24-nk
here the download link of untouched X10 handson: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9299167/00244.MTS
but please don't reupload anywhere else! or it will be the first and last time i upload an untouched video

Please post in General Section.
Besides, i see only a white picture...

I only see a white picture also.

the_black_dragon said:
Hey Guys
i made a small report about IFA in Berlin and i also tried the Android 2.1 update for X10 in a not completed state.....
you can see it here:
starts @ 3:40
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Thanks
*10 chars*

Maybe the flash starts like the comment above picture :
starts @ 3:40
?

SORRY GUYS
it was my mistake
now it should work.....
if it is in the wrong section please would a mod move it?

The lockscreen has finally changed!
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...

chandyperry said:
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...
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hmm yes sorry..... this is my new news portal and i still have not much experience in such things so i missed a lot of things.....
- looking for live wallpaper
- looking for multitouch *damned* (but i think its still not there)

chandyperry said:
The lockscreen has finally changed!
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...
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Use 1080p and full screen.

Moxier still there.
New tabs in Timescape.
Bigger clock or the whole of the title bar.
As far as I can see there is a SwitchPro widget ...
5 screens - coming from Android 2.1
anything else .. ?

You should of had a laptop in your bag and dumped the Rom
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tvachev said:
Moxier still there.
New tabs in Timescape.
Bigger clock or the whole of the title bar.
As far as I can see there is a SwitchPro widget ...
5 screens - coming from Android 2.1
anything else .. ?
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It's the android power widget. Copied by switchpro and then improved with transparency and stuff.

the_black_dragon said:
- looking for multitouch *damned* (but i think its still not there)
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ehm... since it's not possible because of hardware limitations, you can stop looking...

black_math said:
It's the android power widget. Copied by switchpro and then improved with transparency and stuff.
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Thanks a lot. Did not know this.
@the_black_dragon thanks for the video

No Youtube access at work so with my X10!

Well thank you for video mate, thumbs up.
Andreas

Thanks for the video!

ahh!! didn't test the browser? or multi-touch, someone chop off my right hand and all my fingers on the left except the pointer. no multi touch test, i might as well just keep one finger. the wait is killing me. with no more than one finger multi touch wont matter

Bored God said:
ahh!! didn't test the browser? or multi-touch, someone chop off my right hand and all my fingers on the left except the pointer. no multi touch test, i might as well just keep one finger. the wait is killing me. with no more than one finger multi touch wont matter
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FFS when will people understand that multitouch will NEVER come to the x10 - it is not possible since the hardware doesn't support it!!

much faster!!!
and it seems that you can use 2 exchange accounts.... one with android itselve and one with Moxier mail that's nice....
ne new tab in Timescape is XING!

[BUG] Multitouch lost after 12 seconds

A guy from another forum pointed me to this bug.
It starts when you hold two fingers in the screen for more than 12 seconds. Then the multitouch is lost. After a few seconds it fixes itself.
Has anyone noticed this?. Is there any fix or workaround?.
This is terrible for gaming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQblG7OxABk

omg same problem here.

i noticed it last night! also noticed video recording does not autofocus...with adeo

Ronaldo_9 said:
i noticed it last night! also noticed video recording does not autofocus...with adeo
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ya, but what phone has a video camera that does?

Techcruncher said:
ya, but what phone has a video camera that does?
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Right, there are a lot of stand alone cameras that don't have that feature

Yes i noticed this when playing the n64 emulator, i just commented in one of the threads about it lol.
Apparently we have the same digitizer as the Nexus S. Mayb we can get the driver from it?

Techcruncher said:
ya, but what phone has a video camera that does?
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My Evo does.
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OneStepAhead said:
My Evo does.
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I think the point was, most cameras on phones do not have this feature and the Atrix did not have the feature out of the box.

IPhone does as well.
Anyway just tested this the bug is indeed real. This phone just has way too many issues.
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live4nyy said:
I think the point was, most cameras on phones do not have this feature and the Atrix did not have the feature out of the box.
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...really? Galaxy S has, iphone has, n8 has...anyway there is no manual focus either on atrix. for a highend phone like this you have to be silly not to expect it.
anyways without being able to flash a kernel we wouldnt be able to do anything about multitouch far as i'm aware

A bit off topic but I don't see how the nokia N8 has autofocus considering it has a "full focus" camera, aka fixed focus.
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...really? Galaxy S has, iphone has, n8 has...anyway there is no manual focus either on atrix. for a highend phone like this you have to be silly not to expect it.
anyways without being able to flash a kernel we wouldnt be able to do anything about multitouch far as i'm aware
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Ronaldo_9 said:
...really? Galaxy S has, iphone has, n8 has...anyway there is no manual focus either on atrix. for a highend phone like this you have to be silly not to expect it.
anyways without being able to flash a kernel we wouldnt be able to do anything about multitouch far as i'm aware
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Right, right. I might have been thinking about touch-to-focus...

dinan said:
A bit off topic but I don't see how the nokia N8 has autofocus considering it has a "full focus" camera, aka fixed focus.
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Off topic... but full focus isnt the same as fixed focus. N8 has auto focus and C7, E7 has fixed focus
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I noticed this playing Dungeon Defenders before. Kind of a pain...waiting for some kind of hack/patch

hotleadsingerguy said:
I noticed this playing Dungeon Defenders before. Kind of a pain...waiting for some kind of hack/patch
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Same here it hasn't been that bad just my little guy would stop for a sec and I would have to lift my finger and push the virtual d pad again.

Is this bug fixable by software?.
Or is hardware related and will never be fixed?.

Whipon said:
Is this bug fixable by software?.
Or is hardware related and will never be fixed?.
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as i stated earlier.... i believe the atrix has the same digitizer as the nexus s. So posibly we could get the driver from the nexus s and try it...

Whipon said:
A guy from another forum pointed me to this bug.
It starts when you hold two fingers in the screen for more than 12 seconds. Then the multitouch is lost. After a few seconds it fixes itself.
Has anyone noticed this?. Is there any fix or workaround?.
This is terrible for gaming.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQblG7OxABk
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OMG I was wondering this while playing MARIO CART 64! You press B to go but you have to use the trackpad and 12 after the race starts, I always come to a stop and everyone passes me
LOL I sound like a dumbass kid now...but seriously, this is very very annoying...
The only work around I saw for Mario Cart was to use the Accelerometer sensor for the trackpad. Which is under Settings>Input Settings then Use sensor as-trackpad.
But this is defiantly an annoyance to other applications too...it really needs to be fixed.

Whipon said:
Is this bug fixable by software?.
Or is hardware related and will never be fixed?.
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its a software thing

lol the more we discover about this phone, the worse it gets

Andy Rubin's Xoom prototype

http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/14/...-posted?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_engadget
I watched this video back in December when it was released, didn't think much of it recently but had a look at it again this morning to see if it was a Xoom prototype. From what I can tell, it is. What I found most interesting is the app tray fly-in smoothness.
Obviously, this was a development unit shown 4 months before the actual release, so it is not terribly relevant to compare my Xoom with his, but I can't help but wonder why the app tray fly-in looks so much smoother on an early device than it does on a production- ready model (albeit not fully polished). Couple of possibilities:
1. The smoothness is simply a result of the video quality, and a higher rez version on a larger screen may allow me to see the fly-in is as chopp as what I've noticed on production models.
2. Rubin's prototype is super-overclocked and thoroughly optimized to be as smooth as possible in order to not look clunky during its first public appearance.
3. This prototype is working in a non-mobile environment, without any added services used by carrier networks. No use by 3g chip and no background services to support data or voice connectivitt.
Thoughts?
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2 and 3
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androidlurker said:
3. This prototype is working in a non-mobile environment, without any added services used by carrier networks. No use by 3g chip and no background services to support data or voice connectivity.
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Oh Christ Jesus that SO doesn't matter! Have you ever run "ps" or "logcat" while doing that?!
I have 96 apps loaded on my device. I suspect that as you run thru the screens, it's gotta render each icon in-place. I don't believe for a minute that's going to be fast every time.
I've had co-workers "rate" my Xoom by how quickly the icons swipe in the App Screen, and I look at them like they're ****in' crazy. NEVER MIND the fact that the tablet is fast as hell and does 95% of what I want it to well, they say "it doesn't swipe quickly".
WGAS?!!

"Fast as hell" does not describe the Xoom.
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kcrudup said:
I've had co-workers "rate" my Xoom by how quickly the icons swipe in the App Screen, and I look at them like they're ****in' crazy. NEVER MIND the fact that the tablet is fast as hell and does 95% of what I want it to well, they say "it doesn't swipe quickly".
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And therin lays the reason apple is so sucsesful. They would by far reduce features and only include features that are refined and work than throw everything in, and even give the possibility to developers to affect the experiance.
So in Android you can change your keyboard, you can edit an MP3 with multiple software and then use it as a ring tone ...
in the iPhone ... you cant

MikeyMike01 said:
"Fast as hell" does not describe the Xoom.
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trololololololol.

jondwillis said:
trololololololol.
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It's infuriating slow.
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MikeyMike01 said:
It's infuriating slow.
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You're infuriatingly trollish.
The xoom is not slow.
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MikeyMike01 said:
It's infuriating slow.
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Why don't you post a video demonstrating this so we can see how infuriating slow it really is?

That is one thing no one has actually done^

Eclair~ said:
That is one thing no one has actually done^
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True. I posted this with Launcher Pro and Live Wallpaper and it is totally acceptable to me. Give the fact that Launcher Pro is not even optimized for Honeycomb. seems acceptable to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiZ5EmP8h_o
I challenge anyone complaining to post your own demonstrating the lag.
I made this video using my Captivate and Mike's own ROM so there is not reason he cannot do the same. Instead of posting one sentence with no evidence, why not show us?

MikeyMike01 said:
It's infuriating slow.
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You must be doing something wrong. Mine only gets slow when I'm developing over ADB (I think it is a bug, actually..) and when I'm using flash sometimes. A reboot fixes the temporary slowness without fail. I might just be lucky and have a nice unit, since my linpack score is in the top 50 after using the stock kernel OC'd to 1.5 GHz.
But I'm sick of seeing this M of yours attached to whiney posts all over these forums. Please, either figure out how to fix your DEVELOPER TABLET or go complain in some NON-DEVELOPER forums where some lucky CONSUMERS might actually get some value out of the dribble you type.
Better yet, return your Xoom, it is clearly not the right tablet for you.

jondwillis said:
You must be doing something wrong. Mine only gets slow when I'm developing over ADB (I think it is a bug, actually..) and when I'm using flash sometimes. A reboot fixes the temporary slowness without fail. I might just be lucky and have a nice unit, since my linpack score is in the top 50 after using the stock kernel OC'd to 1.5 GHz.
But I'm sick of seeing this M of yours attached to whiney posts all over these forums. Please, either figure out how to fix your DEVELOPER TABLET or go complain in some NON-DEVELOPER forums where some lucky CONSUMERS might actually get some value out of the dribble you type.
Better yet, return your Xoom, it is clearly not the right tablet for you.
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Thank you for agreeing with me.
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MikeyMike01 said:
Thank you for agreeing with me.
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Where is the video Mike? Show us this infuriating lag please.

Please don't feed the trolls (esp. those that don't even have Xooms).

kcrudup said:
Please don't feed the trolls (esp. those that don't even have Xooms).
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He is a kid spewing issues and not giving specifics. I know he likes Android but he is not helping solve his issues with his one liners and no details. I challenge him and anyone else to post a video showing the issues. Put up or shut up.

keitht said:
He is a kid spewing issues and not giving specifics. I know he likes Android but he is not helping solve his issues with his one liners and no details. I challenge him and anyone else to post a video showing the issues. Put up or shut up.
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Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website). Specific enough?
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MikeyMike01 said:
Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website). Specific enough?
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Getting closer and I agree with you on certain sites. In fact, XDA has this issue on the Xoom as I mentioned in my video. Anything else besides the browser?

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Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website).
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1 - there's a lot of JS on certain sites' in their text boxes (presumably for advanced editing/composition features). You'll also notice on those "slow" sites that there's no keyboard autocorrect popups, either 'cause all input is character-at-a-time
2 - that's what you base "slow" on? You sound like my co-workers and their "it's slow 'cause the apps don't scroll as fast as an iPad" crapola.
(Damn, I fed the troll ...! )

kcrudup said:
1 - there's a lot of JS on certain sites' in their text boxes (presumably for advanced editing/composition features). You'll also notice on those "slow" sites that there's no keyboard autocorrect popups, either 'cause all input is character-at-a-time
2 - that's what you base "slow" on? You sound like my co-workers and their "it's slow 'cause the apps don't scroll as fast as an iPad" crapola.
(Damn, I fed the troll ...! )
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What's funny is for the most part the Xoom browser scrolls faster than the iPad's browser. Even the iPad 2 has the checkerboarding everywhere when you scroll.

Samsung Galaxy S 3 Review Thread

Rate the phone 1-5 on-
Battery Life
Speed
Performence
Build quality
Overall
And tell pros and cons

Or maybe we should wait till it gets released before we can vote for all these?

Just a reserve
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Just a reserve
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I think we should close this till it is released and leave the pre-reviews to the pros.
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Anything you guys would like to be included in a video review of the retail unit? Please don't come up with ridiculous requests like drop test or hammer test.

Intratech said:
Anything you guys would like to be included in a video review of the retail unit? Please don't come up with ridiculous requests like drop test or hammer test.
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I'd like to see some GPS action/testing anytime soon.

swent said:
I'd like to see some GPS action/testing anytime soon.
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Cool. I'll add this to the list to include.

Intratech said:
Anything you guys would like to be included in a video review of the retail unit? Please don't come up with ridiculous requests like drop test or hammer test.
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Full details about everything in the settings menu and what they do?
I saw other videos breeze through the settings and there were dozens of interesting things that caught my eye.
Maybe the extras in the camera settings as well?
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^^Added to list

Reserved ? For what ? In case of long lines to open a thread, like there isn't already pointless and useless threads already here.

Reserved ? For what ? In case of long lines to open a thread, like there isn't already pointless and useless threads already here.
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Well I thought it was useless until intratech started to ask us what we wanted in the review. Now i think the topic has becone useful.
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Intratech said:
Anything you guys would like to be included in a video review of the retail unit? Please don't come up with ridiculous requests like drop test or hammer test.
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A proper test of S Voice. Please don't ask it for the weather in London
Show the total boot time for a hard/soft boot.
What's new in TouchWiz, and an overview of the software features on the phone for those who are new to TW
Testing the radio strength (3g/voice/gps/wifi) in various settings
How is the memory partitioned, how much is available

Intratech said:
Anything you guys would like to be included in a video review of the retail unit? Please don't come up with ridiculous requests like drop test or hammer test.
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I'd love to know about the following
Boot time
About different colors in notification led
Data partition size
Smart stay at various lighting conditions
Launcher customization like grid size etc
Brief details of touch gestures
Headsets quality
Some info about how shaky is the recorded video
I know some of these will be already on your list
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ECrispy said:
A proper test of S Voice. Please don't ask it for the weather in London
Show the total boot time for a hard/soft boot.
What's new in TouchWiz, and an overview of the software features on the phone for those who are new to TW
Testing the radio strength (3g/voice/gps/wifi) in various settings
How is the memory partitioned, how much is available
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S voice already passed the woodchuck test, I would like to see some more of that kind and 780 mb is available user memory.
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bala_gamer said:
S voice already passed the woodchuck test, I would like to see some more of that kind and 780 mb is available user memory.
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780Mb is memory available for apps, or for TouchWiz and apps?

ECrispy said:
780Mb is memory available for apps, or for TouchWiz and apps?
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It's the available ram for users out of 1 gb.
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Cheers guys. These are some good request and will make for an interesting review. Keep them coming.

closer look on screen ie. pentile really messed or not !
wifi, gps, radio reception I guess.

My List!
@Intratech: Do you already have a retail unit of GS3? Lucky guy
My list (maybe some options repeated in previous posts):
+ How does the phone feel in-hand? Any particular build issues? Some previews mentioned that the phone looks much better than in press photos. Example here
+ Browser performance, also how is Chrome performance.
+ TW performance. Any slowdown or issues?
+ Details on gestures. I know that there are a ton of gestures, do they work properly?
+ Screen comparison to GS2. Sunlight visibility.
+ Please upload photos in full resolution under various lighting conditions. Same for short video samples. Maybe you could upload that in google drive.
+ Social tag feature in camera/gallery. I am really interested to know how well this works. They can create wonderful commercial with this feature.
+ AllShare Play (I think it works like iCloud). Samsung uploaded a video about that feature here
+ Audio/Video player settings and performance. I noticed that the video gallery shows the previews of all videos stored. Does it impact the performance of the device while showing previews of multiple video at same time?
+ Check various codec it supports.
+ USB OTG and PS3 controller demo.
+ Camera settings. I think we need 2 devices to check buddy share.
+ S Beam will also need 2 devices. Does normal Android Beam work with GNex?
+ If you are getting the AllShare Cast dongle, please check if I can play a video on the TV while doing something else on the phone. How does pop-up play work with the AllShare dongle?
+ Try weird questions in the S Voice. Maybe also some geography/history questions. Shoot some trivia questions. Try launching applications with S Voice. Can it be used to type messages/email?
+ GPS/GLONASS performance. WiFi strength.
+ Difference between 4 colour/screen modes.
+ Gaming performance projected to a HDTV.
+ Background applications running after a fresh reboot.

No I don't have a retail unit as yet. I will get it once it's released to retail