http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/14/...-posted?icid=sphere_blogsmith_inpage_engadget
I watched this video back in December when it was released, didn't think much of it recently but had a look at it again this morning to see if it was a Xoom prototype. From what I can tell, it is. What I found most interesting is the app tray fly-in smoothness.
Obviously, this was a development unit shown 4 months before the actual release, so it is not terribly relevant to compare my Xoom with his, but I can't help but wonder why the app tray fly-in looks so much smoother on an early device than it does on a production- ready model (albeit not fully polished). Couple of possibilities:
1. The smoothness is simply a result of the video quality, and a higher rez version on a larger screen may allow me to see the fly-in is as chopp as what I've noticed on production models.
2. Rubin's prototype is super-overclocked and thoroughly optimized to be as smooth as possible in order to not look clunky during its first public appearance.
3. This prototype is working in a non-mobile environment, without any added services used by carrier networks. No use by 3g chip and no background services to support data or voice connectivitt.
Thoughts?
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androidlurker said:
3. This prototype is working in a non-mobile environment, without any added services used by carrier networks. No use by 3g chip and no background services to support data or voice connectivity.
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Oh Christ Jesus that SO doesn't matter! Have you ever run "ps" or "logcat" while doing that?!
I have 96 apps loaded on my device. I suspect that as you run thru the screens, it's gotta render each icon in-place. I don't believe for a minute that's going to be fast every time.
I've had co-workers "rate" my Xoom by how quickly the icons swipe in the App Screen, and I look at them like they're ****in' crazy. NEVER MIND the fact that the tablet is fast as hell and does 95% of what I want it to well, they say "it doesn't swipe quickly".
WGAS?!!
"Fast as hell" does not describe the Xoom.
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I've had co-workers "rate" my Xoom by how quickly the icons swipe in the App Screen, and I look at them like they're ****in' crazy. NEVER MIND the fact that the tablet is fast as hell and does 95% of what I want it to well, they say "it doesn't swipe quickly".
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And therin lays the reason apple is so sucsesful. They would by far reduce features and only include features that are refined and work than throw everything in, and even give the possibility to developers to affect the experiance.
So in Android you can change your keyboard, you can edit an MP3 with multiple software and then use it as a ring tone ...
in the iPhone ... you cant
MikeyMike01 said:
"Fast as hell" does not describe the Xoom.
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trololololololol.
jondwillis said:
trololololololol.
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It's infuriating slow.
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It's infuriating slow.
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You're infuriatingly trollish.
The xoom is not slow.
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It's infuriating slow.
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Why don't you post a video demonstrating this so we can see how infuriating slow it really is?
That is one thing no one has actually done^
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That is one thing no one has actually done^
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True. I posted this with Launcher Pro and Live Wallpaper and it is totally acceptable to me. Give the fact that Launcher Pro is not even optimized for Honeycomb. seems acceptable to me:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiZ5EmP8h_o
I challenge anyone complaining to post your own demonstrating the lag.
I made this video using my Captivate and Mike's own ROM so there is not reason he cannot do the same. Instead of posting one sentence with no evidence, why not show us?
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It's infuriating slow.
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You must be doing something wrong. Mine only gets slow when I'm developing over ADB (I think it is a bug, actually..) and when I'm using flash sometimes. A reboot fixes the temporary slowness without fail. I might just be lucky and have a nice unit, since my linpack score is in the top 50 after using the stock kernel OC'd to 1.5 GHz.
But I'm sick of seeing this M of yours attached to whiney posts all over these forums. Please, either figure out how to fix your DEVELOPER TABLET or go complain in some NON-DEVELOPER forums where some lucky CONSUMERS might actually get some value out of the dribble you type.
Better yet, return your Xoom, it is clearly not the right tablet for you.
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You must be doing something wrong. Mine only gets slow when I'm developing over ADB (I think it is a bug, actually..) and when I'm using flash sometimes. A reboot fixes the temporary slowness without fail. I might just be lucky and have a nice unit, since my linpack score is in the top 50 after using the stock kernel OC'd to 1.5 GHz.
But I'm sick of seeing this M of yours attached to whiney posts all over these forums. Please, either figure out how to fix your DEVELOPER TABLET or go complain in some NON-DEVELOPER forums where some lucky CONSUMERS might actually get some value out of the dribble you type.
Better yet, return your Xoom, it is clearly not the right tablet for you.
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Thank you for agreeing with me.
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Thank you for agreeing with me.
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Where is the video Mike? Show us this infuriating lag please.
Please don't feed the trolls (esp. those that don't even have Xooms).
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Please don't feed the trolls (esp. those that don't even have Xooms).
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He is a kid spewing issues and not giving specifics. I know he likes Android but he is not helping solve his issues with his one liners and no details. I challenge him and anyone else to post a video showing the issues. Put up or shut up.
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He is a kid spewing issues and not giving specifics. I know he likes Android but he is not helping solve his issues with his one liners and no details. I challenge him and anyone else to post a video showing the issues. Put up or shut up.
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Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website). Specific enough?
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Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website). Specific enough?
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Getting closer and I agree with you on certain sites. In fact, XDA has this issue on the Xoom as I mentioned in my video. Anything else besides the browser?
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Typing in text boxes on the web (depending on the website).
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1 - there's a lot of JS on certain sites' in their text boxes (presumably for advanced editing/composition features). You'll also notice on those "slow" sites that there's no keyboard autocorrect popups, either 'cause all input is character-at-a-time
2 - that's what you base "slow" on? You sound like my co-workers and their "it's slow 'cause the apps don't scroll as fast as an iPad" crapola.
(Damn, I fed the troll ...! )
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1 - there's a lot of JS on certain sites' in their text boxes (presumably for advanced editing/composition features). You'll also notice on those "slow" sites that there's no keyboard autocorrect popups, either 'cause all input is character-at-a-time
2 - that's what you base "slow" on? You sound like my co-workers and their "it's slow 'cause the apps don't scroll as fast as an iPad" crapola.
(Damn, I fed the troll ...! )
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What's funny is for the most part the Xoom browser scrolls faster than the iPad's browser. Even the iPad 2 has the checkerboarding everywhere when you scroll.
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I have the Vibrant. My friend has the Incredible. I compared the two.
While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
Seeing as how Vibrant has the better hardware, my guess is it must be Sense UI vs TouchWiz thing. I love TouchWiz (don't flame me) but if it is the one causing my otherwise great phone to slow down... I will nuke the thing.
What do you guys think?
I thought I saw that the incredible was starting to see froyo. Has he updated? That would make a huge difference. If you are seeing lash on the Samsung specific apps. I would say it is likely touchwiz vs. sense thing.
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We need a later firmware revision. The one we have isn't very good. Later versions reduce or eliminate the type of lag you're talking about.
Besides that, I don't know what you're trying to prove here
My guess would be it's Touchwiz that causes this but there could also be other factors involved. I have a friend with an incredible and he replaced his messaging with handcent because the lag he was getting from opening the messaging app itself as well as the threads.
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I have the Vibrant. My friend has the Incredible. I compared the two.
While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
Seeing as how Vibrant has the better hardware, my guess is it must be Sense UI vs TouchWiz thing. I love TouchWiz (don't flame me) but if it is the one causing my otherwise great phone to slow down... I will nuke the thing.
What do you guys think?
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Have you applied the "fix" yet? I don't see any delays or lag when I open apps.
if you apply the "lag fix" i'm almost certain you won't be able to notice any slow downs in terms of opening applications.
from the limited knowledge I have of the whole "samsung vibrant lag" it's caused by the way the vibrant processes I/O read/write? it's very inefficient as compared to other phones. the fix is a work around and it literally makes it amazingly "snappy" and fast.
I'm choosing to hold off on the fix for now, people reporting issues and having to ODIN flash back to stock is turning me off.
*edit - totally missed the part that said you applied the lag fix. reading comprehension ftl
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While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
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He has applied the lag fix.
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I thought I saw that the incredible was starting to see froyo. Has he updated? That would make a huge difference. If you are seeing lash on the Samsung specific apps. I would say it is likely touchwiz vs. sense thing.
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Naw, hes on 2.1
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We need a later firmware revision. The one we have isn't very good. Later versions reduce or eliminate the type of lag you're talking about.
Besides that, I don't know what you're trying to prove here
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Not trying to prove anything. I am half venting my superphone is not-so-super and half asking for advice on this issue (indirectly).
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My guess would be it's Touchwiz that causes this but there could also be other factors involved. I have a friend with an incredible and he replaced his messaging with handcent because the lag he was getting from opening the messaging app itself as well as the threads.
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The problem is it isn't just on messaging; its pretty much everywhere (except browsing... browsing is blazing fast.)
I have a friend with an incredible its a few months old but I found the opposite to be true. Using her phone made me appreciate the speed of the vibrant, I almost felt like I was back using a G1. my phone is about as stock as you can get aside from running launcher pro instead of the regular home app.
2.2 will only make this thing faster. I use touchwiz to show off my phone. It is a lil choppy but never slow. I think our only competitor when we get 2.2 will be the x but for some reason im not worried.
Sgs
My Vibrant never lags. No fix applied.
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RIP my beloved rooted G1
Classie83 said:
My Vibrant never lags. No fix applied.
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RIP my beloved rooted G1
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Me neither. Had it since release. No lag and about 120 apps installed...
Just need 2.2 and I'm golden....
Gps even works good here... lol
After spending more time with TouchWiz's launcher, I can safely say it is the root of a lot lag. Sucks because I really like it.
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After spending more time with TouchWiz's launcher, I can safely say it is the root of a lot lag. Sucks because I really like it.
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I wonder how it would run on a snapdragon .. lol
Probably horrible ..
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Me neither. Had it since release. No lag and about 120 apps installed...
Just need 2.2 and I'm golden....
Gps even works good here... lol
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Yupe .. same here.
The N1's app drawer is ridiculously fast, responsive, and 3D. The Evos is garbage, slow, and stuttery even with FPS cap removed. Why is this? They essentially have the same hardware... Why is the Evo so slow and stuttery? Is it the giant screen, perhaps?
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The N1's app drawer is ridiculously fast, responsive, and 3D. The Evos is garbage, slow, and stuttery even with FPS cap removed. Why is this? They essentially have the same hardware... Why is the Evo so slow and stuttery? Is it the giant screen, perhaps?
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Screen size doesn't matter, the resolutions are the same. They use the same CPU/GPU and have the same amount of RAM. If you're running a Sense ROM then you have to consider all the extra processes that take up RAM and CPU time.
If you are running CM6 stable on both, the only other thing I can possibly think of is that there are differences between the GPU drivers.
Edit: are you comparing the Sense launcher with the stock/ADW/LP launcher? If you are, keep in mind that Sense is a ugly, inefficient, bloated POS.
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The N1's app drawer is ridiculously fast, responsive, and 3D. The Evos is garbage, slow, and stuttery even with FPS cap removed. Why is this? They essentially have the same hardware... Why is the Evo so slow and stuttery? Is it the giant screen, perhaps?
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Get a new phone then...sheesh...
3D App Drawer can be tweaked for responsiveness so instead of giving the EVO a bad rap why don't you read through some threads for tweaks and actually try them before you make these kind of comments. Launcher Pro can be ran to use the 3D app drawer perhaps you would try it out? You can also set opening speeds etc.
EVO is garbage? Slow? Stuttery? You sure you are not an N1 or IPHONE troll?
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Get a new phone then...sheesh...
EVO is garbage? Slow? Stuttery? You sure you are not an N1 or IPHONE troll?
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That was a completely unneeded (and almost desperately defensive) response. I could really go in and show how "old" the tech in the EVO is, but it doesn't matter (and it doesn't bother me THAT MUCH either).
like i said in the other post from the same OP ... if he is that unhappy with sprint and the evo jump to a new company just about evey topic from this guy is bashing the evo in some way or another he is clearly unhappy with the phone and or service
and when people respond to it they get called and troll a and cussed out lol
/shrug if your unhappy why stick with it
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That was a completely unneeded (and almost desperately defensive) response. I could really go in and show how "old" the tech in the EVO is, but it doesn't matter (and it doesn't bother me THAT MUCH either).
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Who is being defensive? Please this is the internet...
You don't have to show me anything I know enough about these phones thanks. Desperately defensive? Oh yeah that is it..
Please no arm chair psychology session here. I am making a statement if you don't like it you can choose to not comment on it.
We have been down this road a million times with the EVO is this or that....
I have enough "new" technology phones to keep me busy thanks.
If it doesn't matter then your comment wasn't necessary then correct?
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like i said in the other post from the same OP ... if he is that unhappy with sprint and the evo jump to a new company just about evey topic from this guy is bashing the evo in some way or another he is clearly unhappy with the phone and or service
and when people respond to it they get called and troll a and cussed out lol
/shrug if your unhappy why stick with it
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SPORK! how is my beer in the garage fridge holding up?
I should have left it alone but I couldn't. It was just too tempting... Kinda like a cold beer in the middle of the Sahara....how can you pass it up?
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Who is being defensive? Please this is the internet...
You don't have to show me anything I know enough about these phones thanks. Desperately defensive? Oh yeah that is it..
Please no arm chair psychology session here. I am making a statement if you don't like it you can choose to not comment on it.
We have been down this road a million times with the EVO is this or that....
I have enough "new" technology phones to keep me busy thanks.
If it doesn't matter then your comment wasn't necessary then correct?
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FYI, I'm laughing right now.
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SPORK! how is my beer in the garage fridge holding up?
I should have left it alone but I couldn't. It was just too tempting... Kinda like a cold beer in the middle of the Sahara....how can you pass it up?
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refilled last night ready to go for the weekend lol !!
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That was a completely unneeded (and almost desperately defensive) response. I could really go in and show how "old" the tech in the EVO is, but it doesn't matter (and it doesn't bother me THAT MUCH either).
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but the N1 is even older
nicholaaaas said:
but the N1 is even older
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..and used roughly the same CPU/GPU, resolution, and amount of RAM as the EVO which was also roughly used in the HD2 (w/ a bit more RAM) in 2009.
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..and used roughly the same CPU/GPU, resolution, and amount of RAM as the EVO which was also roughly used in the HD2 (w/ a bit more RAM) in 2009.
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And since they prototype phones for a while before market release and they release info about it months ahead it would only make sense that a new phone won't always be the latest and greatest.
I digress...what's your point about the hardware being old? No one claimed latest and greatest or the best..
The OP made a comment about the 3D APP drawer in the N1and how the EVO is garbage. I responded and you are off on a tangent(laughing).
I am eating so I have time to kill boredom made me do it.
Spork...keep it cold!!. And drink it all..
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And since they prototype phones for a while before market release and they release info about it months ahead it would only make sense that a new phone won't always be the latest and greatest.
I digress...what's your point about the hardware being old? No one claimed latest and greatest or the best..
The OP made a comment about the 3D APP drawer in the N1and how the EVO is garbage. I responded and you are off on a tangent(laughing).
I am eating so I have time to kill boredom made me do it.
Spork...keep it cold!!. And drink it all..
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Pretty simple. I said as long as you use similar ROMs/software, performance should be pretty equal since they (the Nexus One and the EVO) used the same hardware. Someone then mentioned that the Nexus One was older, I just re-emphasized what I said earlier. Still on topic IMO.
Here's a logical, on-topic for response for you OP, since I think that's what you were expecting in the first place:
The Evo will stutter when using the 3D app drawer because whatever launcher you are using is using high-quality icons for the display.. It's not sense, it's not the N1, it's not the hardware. I've always wondered why cyanogen configured adw to show a lot more icons on screen thus slowing down the animations.
Do this: Download LauncherPro, go to its Preferences, Advanced Settings and make sure "High quality scrolling" is off and "Use 3D drawer" is on. You'll notice it's just as smooth.
The evo just isn't optimized out of the box for it. That's all.
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Here's a logical, on-topic for response for you OP, since I think that's what you were expecting in the first place:
The Evo will stutter when using the 3D app drawer because whatever launcher you are using is using high-quality icons for the display.. It's not sense, it's not the N1, it's not the hardware. I've always wondered why cyanogen configured adw to show a lot more icons on screen thus slowing down the animations.
Do this: Download LauncherPro, go to its Preferences, Advanced Settings and make sure "High quality scrolling" is off and "Use 3D drawer" is on. You'll notice it's just as smooth.
The evo just isn't optimized out of the box for it. That's all.
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In LP high quality scrolling is off by default, don't know about the 3D drawer.
I get zero lag. I mean zero..with 3d app
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Interesting... so the 3d app drawer makes it run smoother? I should try that. I also noticed disabling live wallpaper makes it smoother too.
i run 3D app drawer with no lag
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Me too, but I think the kernel plays a part in that also.
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Its so laggy and really irritating...it looks great but when updating apps it slows my phone up so bad! I look at google in disgust when they release crap like this...i know they are better than this, they need to show it.
If its just me that experiences these problems then don't flame me too bad...just stating an opinion. ;-)
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i think it was definitely made with bigger screens in mind. theres no reason half my screen should be taken up by some green blob when i turn my phone sideways...very annoying.
also, why did people hate on the tabs?? it made it so much cleaner looking (the tabs when looking at the apps, the Top Paid/Top Free/Just in are still ok)
Works great on my phone, maybe yours is broken?
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i think it was definitely made with bigger screens in mind. theres no reason half my screen should be taken up by some green blob when i turn my phone sideways...very annoying.
also, why did people hate on the tabs?? it made it so much cleaner looking (the tabs when looking at the apps, the Top Paid/Top Free/Just in are still ok)
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i think so too,
on my vibrant it looks alright, but that green format on top is just TOO DAMN BIG.
when on landscape it take more than half the screen.
I'd love to keep this, but the green thing is just too big, besides that nothing wrong, it was slow before, now its been way faster for me.
Works great for me.
i dont like it
Works well for me and i like it way better!!
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i think it was definitely made with bigger screens in mind. theres no reason half my screen should be taken up by some green blob when i turn my phone sideways...very annoying.
also, why did people hate on the tabs?? it made it so much cleaner looking (the tabs when looking at the apps, the Top Paid/Top Free/Just in are still ok)
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The market app is a huge improvement in aesthetics
What it does, however, is showcase Android failure IRT UI Accelleration.
It's laggy on a Galaxy S phone. I can only imagine what it would have been like on the Aria I had a while back, or on another low-spec phone.
It seriously runs like I'm trying to run Crysis on Max Settings with an Integrated Graphics card in a computer from 2006...
But the overall looks of the market, and the functionality are a huge improvement.
I do think they should have allowed us to choose out of like 3 or so color schemes, though. Green on white is not cute...
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theres no reason half my screen should be taken up by some green blob when i turn my phone sideways...very annoying.
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soo true..
i kind of like it. it performs the same or maybe a little better than the previous market, but i mostly just like the new app description setup and stuff.
No. It doesn't even come close to the performance of the market before it. It performs marketly worse.
And it has like half the reliability (Force Close Happy).
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No. It doesn't even come close to the performance of the market before it. It performs marketly worse.
And it has like half the reliability (Force Close Happy).
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works fine for me.
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WorksForMe™
Yes, we know.
/Sarcasm
I like the new look, but the performance has been significantly worse. I expect we'll see improvements/changes as they roll out their promised web accessible android market.
The market is the one area I'd bet significant money on google continuing to improve quickly.
UI is bad, half of the screen is for the advertisement (or recommendation?)
and all the comment and description is packing together in one screen...
and what I really hate is the permission pages,
at least bigger font or bold for those words!
New Market works great for me. Axura 2.1, stock kernal, JK6
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If its just me that experiences these problems then don't flame me too bad...just stating an opinion. ;-)
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Yes, it must be you. My downloads and installs are faster than ever with the new market. And so is my phone. I see no lag what so ever. In fact I see an increase in speed.
Had no issues, slow downs or force closes on Nero V1 so far.
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This really looks good for me but it loads slower when i open it and the old market is much easier to use.
For me the search and downloads on the new market are just way faster. And I also just love the UI. MAYBE its because I'm on froyo but the old market just gave me hang downloads it was just stuck & would not install. Cancelling and redownloading about 2 or 3 times actually got the app installed. I say go with whatever works for your phone.
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Is anyone else getting lag when using the keyboard? It usually just happends when i am in the browser.
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Is anyone else getting lag when using the keyboard? It usually just happends when i am in the browser.
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Most sites I go to seem fine but XDA in particular, the lag is always present. Not enough to bother me too much though.
True, I am mainly only experiancing it on xda. I might have to use their app.
I'm actually seeing this on a bunch of sites I frequent, this along with some other misc. slowdowns make me anxious for some OS updates... I cannot WAIT for CM and the crew to get going on this thing!
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True, I am mainly only experiancing it on xda. I might have to use their app.
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Do you have to do that on your PC...? Me either.
I am seeing a very annoying lag typing into forums like this (and others). 1-2 second lag - very frustrating!
Using the "about:debug" approach to disable OpenGL Rendering seems to address, but I am not clear what we lose in return.
I am also experiancing lag when typing in the browser. I think USAA and Netflix are the worst sites. I just got my xoom so I'm not sure how it was in the past with 3.0 but I think the browser still needs some work. The force closes in the browser are also annoying.
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i find it worst on this site, but any site to fill in a form is crazy slow for me off and on, there seems to be no rhyme or reason. It makes editting difficult. Arrow keys would be nice. Lol
I do hve some lag on google talk but nothing like in the browser. So you're not alone
Helped reduce the lag
I disabled the Opengl rendering setting and then enabled the Normal rendering on the browser's Debug setting. Disabling the Opengl prevents the browser from properly playing the flash embedded objects though.
I have also been getting the lag on keyboard its very frustrating as its effectively reducing the productivity of a device that's designed to improve it. I am rather disgusted with Motorola for having the balls to release a device with such a fundamental flaw. I have dropped from 60 wpm to a rather disgustingly low 20 wpm! I have heard using a bluetooth keyboard negates this (can anyone confirm this) but I may aswell have purchased a laptop if I wanted a hard keyboard. I have also been having fun with the copy and paste feature when moving the cursor or actually needing to use it lol.
To fix lag follow these instructions:
Go to XDA
Scroll all the way to the bottom
Switch to XDA Classic instead of XDA 2010
Problem solved on XDA website.
As far as other forums I would imagine you could use an older version of their site.
gqstatus0685 said:
To fix lag follow these instructions:
Go to XDA
Scroll all the way to the bottom
Switch to XDA Classic instead of XDA 2010
Problem solved on XDA website.
As far as other forums I would imagine you could use an older version of their site.
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Nice fix for xda but tbh this realy shouldnt be an issue and should have been solved before they released the device to consumers
Same issue with alot of sites. Facebook does alot also. Any real fixes, dolphin, opera etc do it also , I hate this thing
eatonjb said:
Same issue with alot of sites. Facebook does alot also. Any real fixes, dolphin, opera etc do it also , I hate this thing
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I am running a ICS rom and the keyboard doesn't lag. Not a real fix since the ICS roms are not fully functional, but it should provide hope since the ICS update should fix the lag.
sonicaholic said:
Nice fix for xda but tbh this realy shouldnt be an issue and should have been solved before they released the device to consumers
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Who knows. I tan into that fix one day while messing around on the browser. I'm gqstatus0685 by the way.
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this is one of my biggest issues with android ... while we get a lot of extra freedom and other stuff, iOS users dont have to deal with this crap because if something was this bad (typing from my xoom right now) I dont think apple would allow it to leave their hands. I love my xoom, I really do, but even almost a year since release, its still not as good (in terms of everything working like it should) than my mom's ipad 2.... just very frustrating to say the least
shorty6049 said:
this is one of my biggest issues with android ... while we get a lot of extra freedom and other stuff, iOS users dont have to deal with this crap because if something was this bad (typing from my xoom right now) I dont think apple would allow it to leave their hands. I love my xoom, I really do, but even almost a year since release, its still not as good (in terms of everything working like it should) than my mom's ipad 2.... just very frustrating to say the least
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ICS is the answer. No lag. It's a beautiful thing.
Looking forward to ICS, only the fact the camera is not support stopped me from trying a ROM.
I OWNED a iPad 2, but maybe I am insane because I will never buy Apple products again and even though the Xoom is soon to be dated by the Quad Core Tablets I still find the Xoom better in almost ever way over the iPad 2.
AstroDigital said:
Looking forward to ICS, only the fact the camera is not support stopped me from trying a ROM.
I OWNED a iPad 2, but maybe I am insane because I will never buy Apple products again and even though the Xoom is soon to be dated by the Quad Core Tablets I still find the Xoom better in almost ever way over the iPad 2.
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I'm running ICS and it has made the browser work wonders I tell you.
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AstroDigital said:
Looking forward to ICS, only the fact the camera is not support stopped me from trying a ROM.
I OWNED a iPad 2, but maybe I am insane because I will never buy Apple products again and even though the Xoom is soon to be dated by the Quad Core Tablets I still find the Xoom better in almost ever way over the iPad 2.
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We don't think you're insane...we know we have the best all around Android tablet currently available.
I can't wait for ICS, but still why does it not work in 3.x.x really.
One of the worst thing about this phone is the lag in Google Chrome or the Stock Browser! I can't believe that with the specs it has we still experience lag while browsing mobile sites!
Don't believe me? Do this, go to this link http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...owser-chrome-facebook-twitter-play-store.html and scroll down in the thread.
There's nothing but lag which is so disappointing. The fix? Turn JavaScipt off in Chrome or the Stock browser but then you're just left with a broken browser.
Coming from iOS I can't believe how stupid slow and laggy the browsing experience has been for me on this beautiful S6. Wow.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using XDA Free mobile app
More people experiencing the same issue: http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...igar-software-better-but-not-good-enough.html
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TL24 said:
One of the worst thing about this phone is the lag in Google Chrome or the Stock Browser! I can't believe that with the specs it has we still experience lag while browsing mobile sites!
Don't believe me? Do this, go to this link http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...owser-chrome-facebook-twitter-play-store.html and scroll down in the thread.
There's nothing but lag which is so disappointing. The fix? Turn Java off in Chrome or the Stock browser but then you're just left with a broken browser.
Coming from iOS I can't believe how stupid slow and laggy the browsing experience has been for me on this beautiful S6. Wow.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using XDA Free mobile app
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Can people for the love of God learn the difference between Java and JavaScript? I cringe everytime I see this..
ombadboy said:
Can people for the love of God learn the difference between Java and JavaScript? I cringe everytime I see this..
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Would be good if you could explain what the difference is
pnr2020 said:
Would be good if you could explain what the difference is
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https://www.google.com/search?clien....1c.2.64.mobile-gws-hp..0.2.299.2.tGJtF0wGuFs
Considering you use a Google product daily, you don't seem to be familiar with their most famous product
Mines pretty fast with Chrome or Stock..faster then my S4
Appok said:
Mines pretty fast with Chrome or Stock..faster then my S4
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Faster than previous Galaxy phones yes but use an iPhone 6 or 6+ to view the link above and tell me you don't see a dramatic difference.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G920A using XDA Free mobile app
This is the only thing that I really respect iPhone 6. Browser speed. Other than this? Nah..
Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk
I've gone to pages on both phones and the main thing I noticed is the scroll speed for the iPhone is a lot slower than my HTC or s6. It may be the reason it doesn't stutter as much. I've done lots of testing with the phones side by and you are making it seem like the iPhone is free of any lag which is simply not true.
Scrolls dine for me with chrome
TL24 said:
Faster than previous Galaxy phones yes but use an iPhone 6 or 6+ to view the link above and tell me you don't see a dramatic difference.
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Apple tricks users. And you feel for it. It "appears" smoother and faster because you can only scroll so much at a time. It breaks pages down in to grids. Its the same trick as how the force long animations to allow home screens to render. Its a lot of smoke and mirrors. And frankly..it works.
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Apple tricks users. And you feel for it. It "appears" smoother and faster because you can only scroll so much at a time. It breaks pages down in to grids. Its the same trick as how the force long animations to allow home screens to render. Its a lot of smoke and mirrors. And frankly..it works.
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I can scroll just as fast if I wanted to, trick or not it's smoother and everything is displayed as expected with no lag whatsoever.
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No lag on my N5, however I'd only get the pleasure of visiting the site for an hour before the battery goes dead, so I'd still rather have the s6,
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
TL24 said:
I can scroll just as fast if I wanted to, trick or not it's smoother and everything is displayed as expected with no lag whatsoever.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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Then you would be the only person on earth that could lol.
Open the page on both devices. From bottom to top flick upwards really fast. See were they both land on the page then you will understand what I mean.
zathus said:
Then you would be the only person on earth that could lol.
Open the page on both devices. From bottom to top flick upwards really fast. See were they both land on the page then you will understand what I mean.
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Listen, I had both devices and did my fair share of testing. I've used Android devices for years as well so I know exactly what you're referring to. Back when in JB'd my iPhone I used a tweak allowing me to scroll just as fast as Android and never had any of these issues so please don't try to sit here telling me it's all a "trick" and things aren't being displayed real time.
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TL24 said:
Listen, I had both devices and did my fair share of testing. I've used Android devices for years as well so I know exactly what you're referring to. Back when in JB'd my iPhone I used a tweak allowing me to scroll just as fast as Android and never had any of these issues so please don't try to sit here telling me it's all a "trick" and things aren't being displayed real time.
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K lol. Then take it back and stick with your iPhone. Clearly you're the only one this is bothering. Or one of few. So maybe Androids just not for you anymore.
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K lol. Then take it back and stick with your iPhone. Clearly you're the only one this is bothering. Or one of few. So maybe Androids just not for you anymore.
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I did take it back, if you refuse to see an issue then you're just a fanboy in this whole iOS vs Android nonsense. I'm basically stating the obvious issues with Android at the moment and I don't see how anyone could see this lag as acceptable.
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I just tested it again. The iPhone clearly does not scroll as fast. If I had a third phone to record it I would. If you already got rid of your phone then why are you on this forum trolling.
So, it's not present, but you had to jailbreak your iPhone and use a tweak to get rid of it? lol I've sat down with both devices to show my friends 100 times. My Androids were faster on 90% of the sites. I've done this for years b/c my friends like to bust my balls about Android vs Apple.
Troll troll troll. gtfo kid. lol
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I did take it back, if you refuse to see an issue then you're just a fanboy in this whole iOS vs Android nonsense. I'm basically stating the obvious issues with Android at the moment and I don't see how anyone could see this lag as acceptable.
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Yet your the only one complaining and you had to jailbreak your iPhone to do what android does out of the box...lol pointless thread. I now see your trollcolors (see what I did there??)