The N1's app drawer is ridiculously fast, responsive, and 3D. The Evos is garbage, slow, and stuttery even with FPS cap removed. Why is this? They essentially have the same hardware... Why is the Evo so slow and stuttery? Is it the giant screen, perhaps?
werxen said:
The N1's app drawer is ridiculously fast, responsive, and 3D. The Evos is garbage, slow, and stuttery even with FPS cap removed. Why is this? They essentially have the same hardware... Why is the Evo so slow and stuttery? Is it the giant screen, perhaps?
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Screen size doesn't matter, the resolutions are the same. They use the same CPU/GPU and have the same amount of RAM. If you're running a Sense ROM then you have to consider all the extra processes that take up RAM and CPU time.
If you are running CM6 stable on both, the only other thing I can possibly think of is that there are differences between the GPU drivers.
Edit: are you comparing the Sense launcher with the stock/ADW/LP launcher? If you are, keep in mind that Sense is a ugly, inefficient, bloated POS.
werxen said:
The N1's app drawer is ridiculously fast, responsive, and 3D. The Evos is garbage, slow, and stuttery even with FPS cap removed. Why is this? They essentially have the same hardware... Why is the Evo so slow and stuttery? Is it the giant screen, perhaps?
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Get a new phone then...sheesh...
3D App Drawer can be tweaked for responsiveness so instead of giving the EVO a bad rap why don't you read through some threads for tweaks and actually try them before you make these kind of comments. Launcher Pro can be ran to use the 3D app drawer perhaps you would try it out? You can also set opening speeds etc.
EVO is garbage? Slow? Stuttery? You sure you are not an N1 or IPHONE troll?
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Get a new phone then...sheesh...
EVO is garbage? Slow? Stuttery? You sure you are not an N1 or IPHONE troll?
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That was a completely unneeded (and almost desperately defensive) response. I could really go in and show how "old" the tech in the EVO is, but it doesn't matter (and it doesn't bother me THAT MUCH either).
like i said in the other post from the same OP ... if he is that unhappy with sprint and the evo jump to a new company just about evey topic from this guy is bashing the evo in some way or another he is clearly unhappy with the phone and or service
and when people respond to it they get called and troll a and cussed out lol
/shrug if your unhappy why stick with it
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That was a completely unneeded (and almost desperately defensive) response. I could really go in and show how "old" the tech in the EVO is, but it doesn't matter (and it doesn't bother me THAT MUCH either).
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Who is being defensive? Please this is the internet...
You don't have to show me anything I know enough about these phones thanks. Desperately defensive? Oh yeah that is it..
Please no arm chair psychology session here. I am making a statement if you don't like it you can choose to not comment on it.
We have been down this road a million times with the EVO is this or that....
I have enough "new" technology phones to keep me busy thanks.
If it doesn't matter then your comment wasn't necessary then correct?
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like i said in the other post from the same OP ... if he is that unhappy with sprint and the evo jump to a new company just about evey topic from this guy is bashing the evo in some way or another he is clearly unhappy with the phone and or service
and when people respond to it they get called and troll a and cussed out lol
/shrug if your unhappy why stick with it
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SPORK! how is my beer in the garage fridge holding up?
I should have left it alone but I couldn't. It was just too tempting... Kinda like a cold beer in the middle of the Sahara....how can you pass it up?
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Who is being defensive? Please this is the internet...
You don't have to show me anything I know enough about these phones thanks. Desperately defensive? Oh yeah that is it..
Please no arm chair psychology session here. I am making a statement if you don't like it you can choose to not comment on it.
We have been down this road a million times with the EVO is this or that....
I have enough "new" technology phones to keep me busy thanks.
If it doesn't matter then your comment wasn't necessary then correct?
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FYI, I'm laughing right now.
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SPORK! how is my beer in the garage fridge holding up?
I should have left it alone but I couldn't. It was just too tempting... Kinda like a cold beer in the middle of the Sahara....how can you pass it up?
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refilled last night ready to go for the weekend lol !!
Award Tour said:
That was a completely unneeded (and almost desperately defensive) response. I could really go in and show how "old" the tech in the EVO is, but it doesn't matter (and it doesn't bother me THAT MUCH either).
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but the N1 is even older
nicholaaaas said:
but the N1 is even older
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..and used roughly the same CPU/GPU, resolution, and amount of RAM as the EVO which was also roughly used in the HD2 (w/ a bit more RAM) in 2009.
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..and used roughly the same CPU/GPU, resolution, and amount of RAM as the EVO which was also roughly used in the HD2 (w/ a bit more RAM) in 2009.
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And since they prototype phones for a while before market release and they release info about it months ahead it would only make sense that a new phone won't always be the latest and greatest.
I digress...what's your point about the hardware being old? No one claimed latest and greatest or the best..
The OP made a comment about the 3D APP drawer in the N1and how the EVO is garbage. I responded and you are off on a tangent(laughing).
I am eating so I have time to kill boredom made me do it.
Spork...keep it cold!!. And drink it all..
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mrmomoman said:
And since they prototype phones for a while before market release and they release info about it months ahead it would only make sense that a new phone won't always be the latest and greatest.
I digress...what's your point about the hardware being old? No one claimed latest and greatest or the best..
The OP made a comment about the 3D APP drawer in the N1and how the EVO is garbage. I responded and you are off on a tangent(laughing).
I am eating so I have time to kill boredom made me do it.
Spork...keep it cold!!. And drink it all..
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Pretty simple. I said as long as you use similar ROMs/software, performance should be pretty equal since they (the Nexus One and the EVO) used the same hardware. Someone then mentioned that the Nexus One was older, I just re-emphasized what I said earlier. Still on topic IMO.
Here's a logical, on-topic for response for you OP, since I think that's what you were expecting in the first place:
The Evo will stutter when using the 3D app drawer because whatever launcher you are using is using high-quality icons for the display.. It's not sense, it's not the N1, it's not the hardware. I've always wondered why cyanogen configured adw to show a lot more icons on screen thus slowing down the animations.
Do this: Download LauncherPro, go to its Preferences, Advanced Settings and make sure "High quality scrolling" is off and "Use 3D drawer" is on. You'll notice it's just as smooth.
The evo just isn't optimized out of the box for it. That's all.
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Here's a logical, on-topic for response for you OP, since I think that's what you were expecting in the first place:
The Evo will stutter when using the 3D app drawer because whatever launcher you are using is using high-quality icons for the display.. It's not sense, it's not the N1, it's not the hardware. I've always wondered why cyanogen configured adw to show a lot more icons on screen thus slowing down the animations.
Do this: Download LauncherPro, go to its Preferences, Advanced Settings and make sure "High quality scrolling" is off and "Use 3D drawer" is on. You'll notice it's just as smooth.
The evo just isn't optimized out of the box for it. That's all.
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In LP high quality scrolling is off by default, don't know about the 3D drawer.
I get zero lag. I mean zero..with 3d app
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Interesting... so the 3d app drawer makes it run smoother? I should try that. I also noticed disabling live wallpaper makes it smoother too.
i run 3D app drawer with no lag
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i run 3D app drawer with no lag
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Me too, but I think the kernel plays a part in that also.
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Related
This has to be one of the funniest things I've seen in a while...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cn_g_gbbG4U
They're completely customizable - color, speed, population, BG color, ect.
$.50 in the market, or a quick google search works, too.
hahaha damn you. I can't stop crackin up
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hahaha damn you. I can't stop crackin up
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Haha. I couldn't either the night I saw it. I showed it to some friends and they couldn't stop laughing either.
As far as battery life goes, I don't think it uses anymore than a static BG does, from what I've seen after 5 days of usage.
Greatest ever.
LOL!!!!! HOW IRONIC IS THIS!!!!!!!!
I am getting my "snip snip" surgery today!!!!!!!!
I don't get it, sperm on a screen. Who got high and though of this idea? People seem to love it though...
You don't have to be high to have a sense of humor.
Here it is guy.
It is an APK, just install it.\
Sorry had to remove it. lol
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Here it is guy.
It is an APK, just install it.
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you should remove the .apk..warez is against the rules..just saying.
Funny, Funny
woowwwwww..
Now that is live humor ....Funny as hell
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Recovery> Recovery-RA-evo-v1.7.0.2 BY Amon_RA
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You don't have to be high to have a sense of humor.
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Exactly! She/he just trolls and posts stuff like that all over the evo forum. It's actually quite annoying.
This has been around for a long time I rocked it on my N1 pretty much since i got it. I use to rock it on the evo to but it gets such poor battery life that I had to stop using live wallpapers.
If you like it pay the guy the 50 cents. Support the developer don't **** him and download it behind his back or post it here as warez.
Having a load swim around my screen isn't my thing but he did an awesome job with it. He deserves the half a buck.
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You don't have to be high to have a sense of humor.
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This has been around for a long time I rocked it on my N1 pretty much since i got it. I use to rock it on the evo to but it gets such poor battery life that I had to stop using live wallpapers.
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Yeah, it's been around a while. I actually haven't noticed this LW using anymore damage than a static BG does.
Awesome
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How much battery life is consumed with live wallpapers. I really like this wallpaper and ended up purchasing it. However, I'm reluctant to using it due to battery life stories. Does it only consume the extra battery when on the home screen?
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This is the only thing from the market I actually bought.
LOL
I laughed in amazement when I saw that YT video...my wife, sitting next to me, said 'ewww, gross, why would anyone want that?'
Must be a guy thing.
khov07 said:
LOL
I laughed in amazement when I saw that YT video...my wife, sitting next to me, said 'ewww, gross, why would anyone want that?'
Must be a guy thing.
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Haha, must be!
akarol said:
How much battery life is consumed with live wallpapers. I really like this wallpaper and ended up purchasing it. However, I'm reluctant to using it due to battery life stories. Does it only consume the extra battery when on the home screen?
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So far I haven't noticed that it's using anymore than a static wallpaper. I'm sure it is, but not enough to make me not use it.
I have the Vibrant. My friend has the Incredible. I compared the two.
While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
Seeing as how Vibrant has the better hardware, my guess is it must be Sense UI vs TouchWiz thing. I love TouchWiz (don't flame me) but if it is the one causing my otherwise great phone to slow down... I will nuke the thing.
What do you guys think?
I thought I saw that the incredible was starting to see froyo. Has he updated? That would make a huge difference. If you are seeing lash on the Samsung specific apps. I would say it is likely touchwiz vs. sense thing.
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We need a later firmware revision. The one we have isn't very good. Later versions reduce or eliminate the type of lag you're talking about.
Besides that, I don't know what you're trying to prove here
My guess would be it's Touchwiz that causes this but there could also be other factors involved. I have a friend with an incredible and he replaced his messaging with handcent because the lag he was getting from opening the messaging app itself as well as the threads.
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DarkAgent said:
I have the Vibrant. My friend has the Incredible. I compared the two.
While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
Seeing as how Vibrant has the better hardware, my guess is it must be Sense UI vs TouchWiz thing. I love TouchWiz (don't flame me) but if it is the one causing my otherwise great phone to slow down... I will nuke the thing.
What do you guys think?
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Have you applied the "fix" yet? I don't see any delays or lag when I open apps.
if you apply the "lag fix" i'm almost certain you won't be able to notice any slow downs in terms of opening applications.
from the limited knowledge I have of the whole "samsung vibrant lag" it's caused by the way the vibrant processes I/O read/write? it's very inefficient as compared to other phones. the fix is a work around and it literally makes it amazingly "snappy" and fast.
I'm choosing to hold off on the fix for now, people reporting issues and having to ODIN flash back to stock is turning me off.
*edit - totally missed the part that said you applied the lag fix. reading comprehension ftl
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While on paper the Vibrant tops the Incredible in terms of hardware (aside from camera related areas), the Incredible seems to be a bit more snappy. Now I am not saying the Vibrant is "slow", but rather there is noticeable ~.5-1 sec delay when opening messaging, for example, where as the Incredible has none, at all. (I have applied Ryan's lagfix and hit 2.2k on Quadrant... wish Quadrant results would reflect actual performance.)
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He has applied the lag fix.
Tpavey said:
I thought I saw that the incredible was starting to see froyo. Has he updated? That would make a huge difference. If you are seeing lash on the Samsung specific apps. I would say it is likely touchwiz vs. sense thing.
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Naw, hes on 2.1
heygrl said:
We need a later firmware revision. The one we have isn't very good. Later versions reduce or eliminate the type of lag you're talking about.
Besides that, I don't know what you're trying to prove here
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Not trying to prove anything. I am half venting my superphone is not-so-super and half asking for advice on this issue (indirectly).
bdveteran18 said:
My guess would be it's Touchwiz that causes this but there could also be other factors involved. I have a friend with an incredible and he replaced his messaging with handcent because the lag he was getting from opening the messaging app itself as well as the threads.
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The problem is it isn't just on messaging; its pretty much everywhere (except browsing... browsing is blazing fast.)
I have a friend with an incredible its a few months old but I found the opposite to be true. Using her phone made me appreciate the speed of the vibrant, I almost felt like I was back using a G1. my phone is about as stock as you can get aside from running launcher pro instead of the regular home app.
2.2 will only make this thing faster. I use touchwiz to show off my phone. It is a lil choppy but never slow. I think our only competitor when we get 2.2 will be the x but for some reason im not worried.
Sgs
My Vibrant never lags. No fix applied.
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RIP my beloved rooted G1
Classie83 said:
My Vibrant never lags. No fix applied.
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RIP my beloved rooted G1
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Me neither. Had it since release. No lag and about 120 apps installed...
Just need 2.2 and I'm golden....
Gps even works good here... lol
After spending more time with TouchWiz's launcher, I can safely say it is the root of a lot lag. Sucks because I really like it.
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After spending more time with TouchWiz's launcher, I can safely say it is the root of a lot lag. Sucks because I really like it.
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I wonder how it would run on a snapdragon .. lol
Probably horrible ..
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Me neither. Had it since release. No lag and about 120 apps installed...
Just need 2.2 and I'm golden....
Gps even works good here... lol
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Yupe .. same here.
Just saw the videos from the htc desire Z and wow. The main thing I want is that htc fast boot. It literally took the phone 4 seconds to boot up. You think we will ever see the light of day on that for our Evos?
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
Link to vid?
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Yea its the second video they have posted.
Www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-hands-on/
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
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Yea its the second video they have posted.
Www.engadget.com/2010/09/15/htc-desire-z-hands-on/
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
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damn - that is fast. But my takeaway from that vid is the fact that lansdcape sense should now be doable.
Yea. If they can do it for sliders it shouldn't be too hard to do it officially for our phones. Love that boot up speed...
Is that an Evo in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
I was more excited about landscape sense. The fastboot is defiantly cool but a feature that isn't too useful since my phone is pretty much always on.
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I was sort of hoping maybe Sprint & HTC would do an update for the EVO . Since we have a kickstand and all.
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I was sort of hoping maybe Sprint & HTC would do an update for the EVO . Since we have a kickstand and all.
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Exactly - Although at this point I'm too attached to launcherpro to go back to sense, the fact that I couldn't use sense in landscape with the kickstand is what pushed me to launcherpro in the first place.
Yeah that fast boot was pretty impressive.
All sorts of HTC love going on today. Wild.
landscape sense ftw
here's hoping they update us (wont be holding my breath)
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Yeah that fast boot was pretty impressive.
All sorts of HTC love going on today. Wild.
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I don't have the audio so please correct me if I'm wrong; but to me it looked like they demonstrated the startup time for Sense, not the whole phone. i.e. Android will still take its usual time to start up, it's just the Sense portion of it (the very last part before you see the unlock screen) will be faster. If that's true, overall it will be a marginal improvement.
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I don't have the audio so please correct me if I'm wrong; but to me it looked like they demonstrated the startup time for Sense, not the whole phone. i.e. Android will still take its usual time to start up, it's just the Sense portion of it (the very last part before you see the unlock screen) will be faster. If that's true, overall it will be a marginal improvement.
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HTC GUY: And that's the boot, its ready to use.
Camera Guy: Was that the whole boot
HTC GUY: Yes, we've done a lot to improve boot time etc.
So I'm guessing it is the boot time.
I want landscape sense!!!!!! Now!!!!! Lol... When can I haves it?
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While some have noticed that the "fastboot" was incredibly fast another video showed the phone booting up and taking longer.
Read somewhere, was a couple hours ago, that a reboot was the speedier of the two, not necessarily powering up a cold phone. Is that the case? Maybe I misread, but I forgot where I saw it so I can't really go back and read again ... maybe I missed something. And I probably did, have been drinking.
Pretty impressive I hope this comes to the EVO.
why do you guys want landscape sense? don't see a use for it. But I do like the new status bar and the customization as well.
I would like landscape sense because, if I were to be using a sense ROM, I constantly hold the phone in landscape. So when I go from here to homescreen I have to turn the phone, which is incredibly taxing for me rolleyes and this would solve the issue.
As it stands, have used CM6 damn near the whole time it's been out, but I understand why people want it. A buddy got his new Evo and this was something I noticed. He'd go from portrait to landscape to portrait to landscape and he was like, dude, this is getting old. I had to agree with him. I know the widget solution ... yeah, sure, but it looks awkward.
Ah hope this is released for evo.. looks great.
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This has to be released for the Evo, its HTC sense.. so it should arrive on the incredible too.. if they only choose 1ghz devices. What I'm wondering is how and when will this be implemented.
They're launching htcsense.com next month, maybe this will include updates for in use devices.
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Chyeahhhhhh boy!!!! I definitely cannot wait for this!!!
So my evo is starting to act up, wondering if the epic would be a viable replacement?
Anyone done this or have any input on it?
Mostly use my phones for the tether, texting and killing time at work.
Thanks for any help!
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Not much of an upgrade unless you want the keyboard or a slightly better screen if you ask me. If your phone is acting up it may be software related? Try flashing a different ROM or something
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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The Epic is better then an EVO overall..but it boils down to is it worth for you to spend money buying a new one...
your usage is mostly fairly simple, I guess you'd have better time texting if you use the physical kb I guess...or if by killing time you mean running high end games..then Epic would definitely be an improvement..
I mean what do you mean by "acting up" and "killing time"..be a bit specific?
I'll tell you this though Epic runs really awesome stock with little to no issues...
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Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Let us answer that question after official froyo is released and/or Cyanogen mod is fully ported.
I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
Thanks everyone
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I just recently got the epic over the evo, due to the beautiful screen and so far I'm thrilled. The Evo is a very nice phone and I'd say on par with the epic but the epic has the keyboard along with a super amoled screen. Some say the 8MP camera is a plus for the evo but personally I'd rather have a samsung 5mp than a htc 8mp, just due to their reputation. But both take beautiful pics, so it really comes down to is the keyboard and amoled with gorilla glass worth it for you? I rarely use the slide out, mostly swype, but for long emails, texts, etc the slide out is extremely useful!
So evaluate the pros / cons and see if its worth it for you! I'm more than happy I went with the epic!
Sincerely,
D3luSi0n4L
I agree with D3luSi0n4L, you just need to evaluate the pros/cons as they pertain to you. I'm overall pleased with my Epic because IMO the screen quality is superior and I like to have a physical keyboard (especially when traveling, Emulators play nicely with keyboards ) The only hangup with the Epic is the lackluster support from Samsung. If you really like playing with new ROMs and constantly tweaking your phone, then the EVO will be better for you. Lets face it, HTC phones just have more support behind them. Hell, even the Hero is still getting updates...
Like i said, figure out what's most important to you and go from there.
The epic is a viable replacement. Its noticeably smaller though, even if its only .3 inches. That might make a difference. Other than that its basically the same+keyboard. And froyo isn't out officially yet. and there's a considerable difference in development for the epic and evo...so you might wanna take that into account too, although stock dk28 froyo is good enough. I've been running it since it firs got leaked and my gps is perfect and everythin else works. Even the browser. Wen froyo is officially released, this phone will easily beat evo
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Oh and swype is preinstalled lol
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Evo has Swype since last week's update.
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Basically the phones are very similar. You should try to see about that warranty before you drop a load of cash on a phone that isn't all that different. Are you out of warrantee/due for an upgrade? T-Mobile Nexus S looks yummy
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Will have to agree with this statement. But again, this is MY OWN personal thoughts on it. I have both phones as well and I find myself using my EVO a lot more than my Epic. Not saying that the Epic is not a good phone because it is a good phone.
At the end of the day though, its all in what YOU want and what works best for YOU. Thats something no one can speak on. Either way, your in a win-win! GOOD LUCK!
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I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
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I remember hearing someone say they had this issue on multiple EVOs..not sure if its true or not but this is not an issue on the Epic.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
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Well both phones can do what you want...things come to mind is our Inferstructure tethering is right now 2.1 only, hopefully will be fixed soon..if ad hoc or wire tethering is what you need 2.2 works...as for mp3, we got 5.1 surround sound option if you have headsets that support it..
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
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Boils down to your financials..I say go play with an Epic at the store to get a feel for it before deciding though...you can load up 2.2 on their demo phones while they arent looking too lol
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
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A lot of people use swype..most ppl use kb for long messages and gaming...in my case I need kb for remote desktop programming in emergencies...I use on screen kb by default...but I do enjoy using the physical kb for when surfing the net..I so hate using the onscreen kb when surfing webpages on all phones in general..mostly since..
1) web is ment to be surfed vertical resolution anyways
2) the onscreen kb popping up is a mess that blocks my screen :/
hence the physical KB makes surfing the net more enjoyable for me at least..
If you would like to know what we got going over the EVO its:
1) Better processor
2) 3x better GPU
3) 6 axis accelometer
4) super amoled
5) keyboard
6) Better camera
7) Better Audio
8) Gorilla Glass
9) Built in video drivers such as xvid/divx/mkv etc
10) and more...
and probably a few other things I'm missing...I'm not saying the Epic has no flaws..but its definitely a step up hardware spec wise..
One of my friends offered me to trade phone I have the evo ****, but his evo4g is in perfect condition. I like the evo4g because of the bigger screen, FrontFacing Camera, and kickstand... but what does the EVO Shift beat it at it... devolpment looks great with EVO too.
Give me your opinions gonna think about trading it. Thanks for your time.
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madplaya1 said:
One of my friends offered me to trade phone I have the evo ****, but his evo4g is in perfect condition. I like the evo4g because of the bigger screen, FrontFacing Camera, and kickstand... but what does the EVO Shift beat it at it... devolpment looks great with EVO too.
Give me your opinions gonna think about trading it. Thanks for your time.
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The evo is the the best phone ever... Ditch the shift and roll with the evo... Seriously? The evo is slower but has a few nicer options... It's all personal preference. My wife has an evo and she can keep it...
Edit: this post is sarcasm... Im trying really hard to not flame you... Did you ask the same question in the evo thread? Im willing to bet that almost all the evo users say evo and majority of shift users say shift... If we didnt like the device, we probably wouldnt have it...
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madplaya1 said:
One of my friends offered me to trade phone I have the evo ****
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Ouch I don't think the EVO shift is **** lol but yeah ask notsointresting how he liked his... He couldn't oc over 1.2 GHz without it locking up
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No i just posted here, but i just wanted to get some opinions on it but most likely the roms over there make the phone run faster and maybe some ROMS faster or equal to the speed of this..
I meant evo shift not **** ahah. typo.
My wife has an OG EVO 4G, I have the Shift. Both rooted, running Mik Roms on both. Other than the Front Facing Camera, and the bigger screen. That's it. I like my Shift better in everyway. Can OC way higher, just as versatile as the OG EVO. IMO stick with the Shift.
the OG EVO is nice for the front cam and bigger screen but myself i prefer having a physical keyboard on the shift instead of wasting screen space typing on the screen.
i just think the shift is a good solid phone and mine has taken many beatings and met many walls and still runs like a german tank fueled on meth
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the OG EVO is nice for the front cam and bigger screen but myself i prefer having a physical keyboard on the shift instead of wasting screen space typing on the screen.
i just think the shift is a good solid phone and mine has taken many beatings and met many walls and still runs like a german tank fueled on meth
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Hahahahahahaha . Very true. That last comment is awesome .
I wouldn't trade it just yet, we have one more good set of roms coming to xda soon
umm
" but most likely the roms over there make the phone run faster and maybe some ROMS faster"
doubting that
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... but what does the EVO Shift beat [the EVO] at?
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Nothing, except the hardware keyboard (which I don't use anywhere near as much as I'd thought). I only have a Shift because the USB port on my EVO stopped working, and I'm glad I carry a tablet as I tend to really hate this phone- if it weren't for Go Launcher Ex (the original Sense Launcher would redraw everything nearly every time, making it really slow) I'd've chucked it out a LONG time ago.
I really should just root it and put AOSP on it, but as it's really just a phone now, haven't gotten around to it.
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Nothing, except the hardware keyboard (which I don't use anywhere near as much as I'd thought). I only have a Shift because the USB port on my EVO stopped working, and I'm glad I carry a tablet as I tend to really hate this phone- if it weren't for Go Launcher Ex (the original Sense Launcher would redraw everything nearly every time, making it really slow) I'd've chucked it out a LONG time ago.
I really should just root it and put AOSP on it, but as it's really just a phone now, haven't gotten around to it.
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The shift dominates the evo... My wife has an evo (rooted of course) that I maintain, it won't overclock over 1.2GHZ, it is much slower than the shift at any task, and is a big clunky phone if you put the otterbox defender on it, which she has because we have 2 kids. The evo is a nice device with a ton of development... if you like 10 of the same roms with different themes added... Also this has to be stated: The evo is old technology, the evo shift was the first of the newer emmc partitioned devices and although it only has an 800mhz processor, it kicks the evo's ass in all areas of performance. Not to mention the much more powerful adreno 205 gpu that comes in the shift. The keyboard is just an added bonus... Oh, we also dont have the dreaded busted charging port that the evo has... Shift all the way for me!
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drob311 said:
The shift dominates the evo ...The evo is old technology, the evo shift was the first of the newer emmc partitioned devices and although it only has an 800mhz processor, it kicks the evo's ass in all areas of performance. Not to mention the much more powerful adreno 205 gpu that comes in the shift. The keyboard is just an added bonus
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Hrmph. My (stock 2.3.4) Shift compared to my EVO (which I still use a mini-tablet, I just swap batteries every couple of days and don't use it as a phone):
- is slow as hell for EVERYTHING
- will reload the Sense Launcher every time you go back to it (I had to switch Launchers)
- wlll lag for sometimes up to 30 seconds while using some apps (like Google Maps as one)
- I've stopped loading apps on it, 'cause I'm always getting the dreaded "Low on Space" notification at < 50MB left (and when it does, it stops synching).
I got it 'cause I like hardware keyboards, but the layout is so odd I'm a worse typist than if I use the on-screen keyboard.
It's just slow and laggy- and frankly I'm surprised to hear that people actually like it. Perhaps there's some variation in the hardware, but I only bought this thing in July so how back could it be?
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Hrmph. My (stock 2.3.4) Shift compared to my EVO (which I still use a mini-tablet, I just swap batteries every couple of days and don't use it as a phone):
- is slow as hell for EVERYTHING
- will reload the Sense Launcher every time you go back to it (I had to switch Launchers)
- wlll lag for sometimes up to 30 seconds while using some apps (like Google Maps as one)
- I've stopped loading apps on it, 'cause I'm always getting the dreaded "Low on Space" notification at < 50MB left (and when it does, it stops synching).
I got it 'cause I like hardware keyboards, but the layout is so odd I'm a worse typist than if I use the on-screen keyboard.
It's just slow and laggy- and frankly I'm surprised to hear that people actually like it. Perhaps there's some variation in the hardware, but I only bought this thing in July so how back could it be?
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You gotta root it. Then you unleash the power man
All aboard the Speedy Express
You gotta root it... Sense 2.1 is a beast for this little phone and htc/sprint did us no favors with the amount of bull**** bloat they put on the phones. Im running a stock sense 2.1 2.3.4 rooted rom based off the ruu, fully loaded with bloat and get 1 - 2 sense re-loads a week. Once I strip the bloat and odex it, it will decrease to 1 - 2 sense re-loads a month. Although I'm not currently using it, V6 supercharger is also great for memory management... But the first step is downgrading hboot and rooting that *****... You wont regret it, and aosp on the shift is smooth as a baby's ass...
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Root it. Flash just about any Rom on here, and it will be better than stock
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
Thanks everyone- all the rest of my devices are rooted but I was loath to do so with my "Phone" phone 'cause I do need that to Just Work.
I know this is gonna be like asking a crowd of folks "What's the best way to top a pizza" as everyone will answer differently , but does anyone recommend one ROM over another? (I'm a seasoned Android BSP/Kernel developer, BTW).
FWIW, I've taken the last FOTA (which brought me to 2.3.4/2.77.651.3) ; does that eliminate the HBOOT degrade security hole?
Any Mik Rom . MikShiftedG v2.0 , Supreme Sense v9.1 , MikRunny RC . All great roms .
TEAM MiK
MikROMs Since 3/13/11
kcrudup said:
Thanks everyone- all the rest of my devices are rooted but I was loath to do so with my "Phone" phone 'cause I do need that to Just Work.
I know this is gonna be like asking a crowd of folks "What's the best way to top a pizza" as everyone will answer differently , but does anyone recommend one ROM over another? (I'm a seasoned Android BSP/Kernel developer, BTW).
FWIW, I've taken the last FOTA (which brought me to 2.3.4/2.77.651.3) ; does that eliminate the HBOOT degrade security hole?
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if you dig sense id go with any of the mikmik roms prboy mentioned and if you prefer clean, modded, aosp id go with UKE. mikrunny is super nice for sense imo and uke is super nice for aosp
madplaya1 said:
One of my friends offered me to trade phone I have the evo ****, but his evo4g is in perfect condition. I like the evo4g because of the bigger screen, FrontFacing Camera, and kickstand... but what does the EVO Shift beat it at it... devolpment looks great with EVO too.
Give me your opinions gonna think about trading it. Thanks for your time.
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YoungCorruptionV2.0 said:
Ouch I don't think the EVO shift is **** lol but yeah ask notsointresting how he liked his... He couldn't oc over 1.2 GHz without it locking up
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I didnt read all of this thread,but saw my name mentioned. I'm using the EVO 3D now, and i only bought it because i couldn't deal with the slow ass EVO anymore. I couldn't get that thing to 1.2 ghz for the life of me. The shift is way faster, and a more capable device (try playing shadowgun on both)
Who cares about extra development. For every 1 rom we have here they gave two roms that are exactly the same with a different theme.
I will say i love the big screen and kickstand , but if i had to choose between one...definitely the shift. Plus this community has less pricks too.
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I didnt read all of this thread,but saw my name mentioned. I'm using the EVO 3D now, and i only bought it because i couldn't deal with the slow ass EVO anymore. I couldn't get that thing to 1.2 ghz for the life of me. Who cares about extra development. For every 1 rom we have here they gave two roms that are exactly the same with a different theme. The shift is way faster, and a more capable device (try playing shadowgun on both)
I will say i love the big screen and kickstand , but if i had to choose between one...definitely the shift. Plus this community has less pricks too.
The only reason i couldn't get another shift is because the screen size got to me
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Double post I'm a dumbass xD, i blame it all on the XDA app
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