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N1 so responsive and fast... Wtf.

The N1's app drawer is ridiculously fast, responsive, and 3D. The Evos is garbage, slow, and stuttery even with FPS cap removed. Why is this? They essentially have the same hardware... Why is the Evo so slow and stuttery? Is it the giant screen, perhaps?

werxen said:
The N1's app drawer is ridiculously fast, responsive, and 3D. The Evos is garbage, slow, and stuttery even with FPS cap removed. Why is this? They essentially have the same hardware... Why is the Evo so slow and stuttery? Is it the giant screen, perhaps?
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Screen size doesn't matter, the resolutions are the same. They use the same CPU/GPU and have the same amount of RAM. If you're running a Sense ROM then you have to consider all the extra processes that take up RAM and CPU time.
If you are running CM6 stable on both, the only other thing I can possibly think of is that there are differences between the GPU drivers.
Edit: are you comparing the Sense launcher with the stock/ADW/LP launcher? If you are, keep in mind that Sense is a ugly, inefficient, bloated POS.

werxen said:
The N1's app drawer is ridiculously fast, responsive, and 3D. The Evos is garbage, slow, and stuttery even with FPS cap removed. Why is this? They essentially have the same hardware... Why is the Evo so slow and stuttery? Is it the giant screen, perhaps?
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Get a new phone then...sheesh...
3D App Drawer can be tweaked for responsiveness so instead of giving the EVO a bad rap why don't you read through some threads for tweaks and actually try them before you make these kind of comments. Launcher Pro can be ran to use the 3D app drawer perhaps you would try it out? You can also set opening speeds etc.
EVO is garbage? Slow? Stuttery? You sure you are not an N1 or IPHONE troll?

mrmomoman said:
Get a new phone then...sheesh...
EVO is garbage? Slow? Stuttery? You sure you are not an N1 or IPHONE troll?
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That was a completely unneeded (and almost desperately defensive) response. I could really go in and show how "old" the tech in the EVO is, but it doesn't matter (and it doesn't bother me THAT MUCH either).

like i said in the other post from the same OP ... if he is that unhappy with sprint and the evo jump to a new company just about evey topic from this guy is bashing the evo in some way or another he is clearly unhappy with the phone and or service
and when people respond to it they get called and troll a and cussed out lol
/shrug if your unhappy why stick with it

Award Tour said:
That was a completely unneeded (and almost desperately defensive) response. I could really go in and show how "old" the tech in the EVO is, but it doesn't matter (and it doesn't bother me THAT MUCH either).
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Who is being defensive? Please this is the internet...
You don't have to show me anything I know enough about these phones thanks. Desperately defensive? Oh yeah that is it..
Please no arm chair psychology session here. I am making a statement if you don't like it you can choose to not comment on it.
We have been down this road a million times with the EVO is this or that....
I have enough "new" technology phones to keep me busy thanks.
If it doesn't matter then your comment wasn't necessary then correct?

Sporkman said:
like i said in the other post from the same OP ... if he is that unhappy with sprint and the evo jump to a new company just about evey topic from this guy is bashing the evo in some way or another he is clearly unhappy with the phone and or service
and when people respond to it they get called and troll a and cussed out lol
/shrug if your unhappy why stick with it
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SPORK! how is my beer in the garage fridge holding up?
I should have left it alone but I couldn't. It was just too tempting... Kinda like a cold beer in the middle of the Sahara....how can you pass it up?

mrmomoman said:
Who is being defensive? Please this is the internet...
You don't have to show me anything I know enough about these phones thanks. Desperately defensive? Oh yeah that is it..
Please no arm chair psychology session here. I am making a statement if you don't like it you can choose to not comment on it.
We have been down this road a million times with the EVO is this or that....
I have enough "new" technology phones to keep me busy thanks.
If it doesn't matter then your comment wasn't necessary then correct?
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FYI, I'm laughing right now.

mrmomoman said:
SPORK! how is my beer in the garage fridge holding up?
I should have left it alone but I couldn't. It was just too tempting... Kinda like a cold beer in the middle of the Sahara....how can you pass it up?
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refilled last night ready to go for the weekend lol !!

Award Tour said:
That was a completely unneeded (and almost desperately defensive) response. I could really go in and show how "old" the tech in the EVO is, but it doesn't matter (and it doesn't bother me THAT MUCH either).
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but the N1 is even older

nicholaaaas said:
but the N1 is even older
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..and used roughly the same CPU/GPU, resolution, and amount of RAM as the EVO which was also roughly used in the HD2 (w/ a bit more RAM) in 2009.

Award Tour said:
..and used roughly the same CPU/GPU, resolution, and amount of RAM as the EVO which was also roughly used in the HD2 (w/ a bit more RAM) in 2009.
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And since they prototype phones for a while before market release and they release info about it months ahead it would only make sense that a new phone won't always be the latest and greatest.
I digress...what's your point about the hardware being old? No one claimed latest and greatest or the best..
The OP made a comment about the 3D APP drawer in the N1and how the EVO is garbage. I responded and you are off on a tangent(laughing).
I am eating so I have time to kill boredom made me do it.
Spork...keep it cold!!. And drink it all..
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mrmomoman said:
And since they prototype phones for a while before market release and they release info about it months ahead it would only make sense that a new phone won't always be the latest and greatest.
I digress...what's your point about the hardware being old? No one claimed latest and greatest or the best..
The OP made a comment about the 3D APP drawer in the N1and how the EVO is garbage. I responded and you are off on a tangent(laughing).
I am eating so I have time to kill boredom made me do it.
Spork...keep it cold!!. And drink it all..
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Pretty simple. I said as long as you use similar ROMs/software, performance should be pretty equal since they (the Nexus One and the EVO) used the same hardware. Someone then mentioned that the Nexus One was older, I just re-emphasized what I said earlier. Still on topic IMO.

Here's a logical, on-topic for response for you OP, since I think that's what you were expecting in the first place:
The Evo will stutter when using the 3D app drawer because whatever launcher you are using is using high-quality icons for the display.. It's not sense, it's not the N1, it's not the hardware. I've always wondered why cyanogen configured adw to show a lot more icons on screen thus slowing down the animations.
Do this: Download LauncherPro, go to its Preferences, Advanced Settings and make sure "High quality scrolling" is off and "Use 3D drawer" is on. You'll notice it's just as smooth.
The evo just isn't optimized out of the box for it. That's all.

zeuzinn said:
Here's a logical, on-topic for response for you OP, since I think that's what you were expecting in the first place:
The Evo will stutter when using the 3D app drawer because whatever launcher you are using is using high-quality icons for the display.. It's not sense, it's not the N1, it's not the hardware. I've always wondered why cyanogen configured adw to show a lot more icons on screen thus slowing down the animations.
Do this: Download LauncherPro, go to its Preferences, Advanced Settings and make sure "High quality scrolling" is off and "Use 3D drawer" is on. You'll notice it's just as smooth.
The evo just isn't optimized out of the box for it. That's all.
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In LP high quality scrolling is off by default, don't know about the 3D drawer.

I get zero lag. I mean zero..with 3d app
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Interesting... so the 3d app drawer makes it run smoother? I should try that. I also noticed disabling live wallpaper makes it smoother too.

i run 3D app drawer with no lag

Sporkman said:
i run 3D app drawer with no lag
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Me too, but I think the kernel plays a part in that also.
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G2 Fast Bootup time?

While I was waiting for the G2 to come out, I watched this video on youtube of the Desire Z
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6yQQRl6q8
And was disappointed that my G2 does not have that quick rebooting option. I see that one has a modified Android, so is that something the G2 just doesn't have or is it something to enable?

That is a feature of the Sense UI installed on the Desire Z. It's called hibernate. It's not actually the bootup time, just waking from a deep sleep. Like when a laptop dies and boots up again quickly because of hibernation. The actual bootup time will most likely be the sme as the G2 or longer because of the Sense UI

I knew it wasn't a true shut down, just thought it was pretty cool. Oh well lol
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While I was waiting for the G2 to come out, I watched this video on youtube of the Desire Z
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yu6yQQRl6q8
And was disappointed that my G2 does not have that quick rebooting option. I see that one has a modified Android, so is that something the G2 just doesn't have or is it something to enable?
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WOW! This would be a nice feature to have, but remember the Desire Z is running the Sense UI, and that maybe a feature exclusive to it. I am sure if someone at TMO or HTC wanted us to have it we would. It just looks like a "sleep" mode, no different than on my laptop. Still cool though...
*SIGH* Bloody Brits get all the cool stuff...
Honestly I wouldn't mind the Sense UI on this, got real used to it after my 3G Slide...

Once we get root, other roms will offer that feature. Cyanogen 6.1 will include that feature on all his roms, eventually the G2 as well, once we get perm root.

Tatdude806 said:
WOW! This would be a nice feature to have, but remember the Desire Z is running the Sense UI, and that maybe a feature exclusive to it. I am sure if someone at TMO or HTC wanted us to have it we would. It just looks like a "sleep" mode, no different than on my laptop. Still cool though...
*SIGH* Bloody Brits get all the cool stuff...
Honestly I wouldn't mind the Sense UI on this, got real used to it after my 3G Slide...
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Call me ignorant....but I can't see myself EVER using this feature. While in hibernation, your phone won't ring, your e-mail notifications won't fire, etc. The phone is off.
Today, when you turn off your display, your phone goes into a power-save mode and consumes less power to stay "on".
Who really shuts down that often to notice 10 seconds vs 60 seconds?

Does this happen to anyone else?

Friend or someone wants to see your phone... You open your "cool" apps to show them..
Phone freezes, locks up, doesn't operate right..
I swear, I can do whatever I want while alone, at my phone works perfect..
Yesterday I show my friends Slingplayer and Homerun3D, sure enough both programs give me problems..
LOL Was in a bad area for slingplayer to work (it works smoothly all the time) and was lagging.. Of course he was like "its a cool concept but who would would ever deal with the skipping"
LOL I swear it never does this, I tell him..
Then I go to show him the Homerun3D game and of course it locks up on me, lol
It always happens like that,...

Sounds like Murphy is a good friend of yours!
That happens to me sometimes but only when I'm doing something totally unimportant.

Your phone knows that your friends are unworthy to bask in its warm embrace and enlightenment.
It goes into clam mode, shuts up tight and looks like a paperweight until you put it away
That or a bad flash mixed with user error

my windows mobile devices did that all the time, i think i got used to it and only thought about how often it happened when it would screw up in front of a friend.
on evo, i dont have any problems.
not trying to be a smart ass but i bet your using a custom rom.

potna said:
my windows mobile devices did that all the time, i think i got used to it and only thought about how often it happened when it would screw up in front of a friend.
on evo, i dont have any problems.
not trying to be a smart ass but i bet your using a custom rom.
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Yea but I use Fresh's custom Rom..
Besides.. Who here actually doesn't use a custom rom?

More than I honestly thought. There is a ton of info on the evo that I find useful, even though I'm rooted stock.
I find my evo to be the most reliable handset I've had since maybe before smartphones were around. I still can't believe I haven't flashed and reinstalled my OS 10 times by now and I have had this since august. Granted I did do some playing around with Roms when I first got it. But every since I decided to give sense an honest shot, I haven't been back to custom.
This is the first android phone for me and the first time I didn't feel the need to tinker around with every little thing.
I loved wm 6.5 but it was still wm, and it was full of reliability issues. I still miss my old touch pro 2 and its kwyboard, but my evo is way more reliable.
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Picture a layer cake filled with froyo between the layers. A leaky app makes a hole in the layer, froyo leaks up and mixes with the next layers froyo, causing it to spill and the bottom to collapse. The maitre'd named NAND tries to restore it so it looks like the picture on the menu.
One day the froyo got real warm and the menus were changed simultaneously. NAND could not restore it and even the picture had changed.
You see the chef had thought it would be faster and take less work to refill the layers, rather than to assemble and build them when they were ordered.
Mural of the story (modern stories all have walls for murals to be posted on) a pair of dimes - standing on edge.
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task killers take bytes out of the cake when your not looking making it fall faster

Yes it happens all the time! Especially at work where the signal is crappy in the building!
if all fails, i just flip the phone over and say "checkit, it has a kickstand!"

Skeptron said:
Yes it happens all the time! Especially at work where the signal is crappy in the building!
if all fails, i just flip the phone over and say "checkit, it has a kickstand!"
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lmao...kickstand ftw!!!

potna said:
More than I honestly thought. There is a ton of info on the evo that I find useful, even though I'm rooted stock.
I find my evo to be the most reliable handset I've had since maybe before smartphones were around. I still can't believe I haven't flashed and reinstalled my OS 10 times by now and I have had this since august. Granted I did do some playing around with Roms when I first got it. But every since I decided to give sense an honest shot, I haven't been back to custom.
This is the first android phone for me and the first time I didn't feel the need to tinker around with every little thing.
I loved wm 6.5 but it was still wm, and it was full of reliability issues. I still miss my old touch pro 2 and its kwyboard, but my evo is way more reliable.
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I actually love sense and do not see why people wouldn't want it..
I also got an extended battery which I only use when I know I will not be near a power source for a while.. I have the Otterbox case and just LOVE IT!! so I try to keep with the stock battery..
That being said I use Fresh's rom, because its pretty much stock with some extra goodies.. And full Sense..
I really don't have problems with my phone.. Its just typical with Murphys law,, lol

Oh,i did think of something crappy.
When I first got my evo,i was telling my friends about how awesome it is and how sweet the camera and video recording is, now my video doesn't seem all that great. In fact in 720p it looks so crappy and choppy that I don't feel like its worth having or using.
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Just get a higher class SD card and replay that oh crappy video quality scenario all over again.
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lol...i can honestly say that I've never experienced that, thank GOD. Have you figured out the root cause?
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I don't get it, r u saying that something higher than what I have will fix the issue? I currently have a 16GB class 2.
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You can get a 32gb card and still have same issues. You need a class 4 or above. If I could remember I'd post direct statement from htc employee. A lot go with a class 6, but anything more than class 4 and its all the same fluff. Class 2 just doesn't write fast enough for Evo's video.
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I think I saw that conversation about the max speed the evo could take advantage of, but I thought I read some where anything beyond class 2 carries no benefit in how well our evos record video in 720p.
Mine is choppy outside in sunlight and simetimes the video out right freezes for a split second. As far recording inside its so low quality that I don't even try to record.
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Upgrade to Epic 4g from evo 4g?

So my evo is starting to act up, wondering if the epic would be a viable replacement?
Anyone done this or have any input on it?
Mostly use my phones for the tether, texting and killing time at work.
Thanks for any help!
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Not much of an upgrade unless you want the keyboard or a slightly better screen if you ask me. If your phone is acting up it may be software related? Try flashing a different ROM or something

Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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trueplaya89 said:
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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The Epic is better then an EVO overall..but it boils down to is it worth for you to spend money buying a new one...
your usage is mostly fairly simple, I guess you'd have better time texting if you use the physical kb I guess...or if by killing time you mean running high end games..then Epic would definitely be an improvement..
I mean what do you mean by "acting up" and "killing time"..be a bit specific?
I'll tell you this though Epic runs really awesome stock with little to no issues...

trueplaya89 said:
Could be rom, but Im thinking the meeting with the concrete today may have something to do with it to be honest.
Could be warranty time. Lol.
I'll try a different Rom in a bit.
Cyanogen mod time.
But nothing really better than the evo then?
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Let us answer that question after official froyo is released and/or Cyanogen mod is fully ported.

I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
Thanks everyone
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I just recently got the epic over the evo, due to the beautiful screen and so far I'm thrilled. The Evo is a very nice phone and I'd say on par with the epic but the epic has the keyboard along with a super amoled screen. Some say the 8MP camera is a plus for the evo but personally I'd rather have a samsung 5mp than a htc 8mp, just due to their reputation. But both take beautiful pics, so it really comes down to is the keyboard and amoled with gorilla glass worth it for you? I rarely use the slide out, mostly swype, but for long emails, texts, etc the slide out is extremely useful!
So evaluate the pros / cons and see if its worth it for you! I'm more than happy I went with the epic!
Sincerely,
D3luSi0n4L

I agree with D3luSi0n4L, you just need to evaluate the pros/cons as they pertain to you. I'm overall pleased with my Epic because IMO the screen quality is superior and I like to have a physical keyboard (especially when traveling, Emulators play nicely with keyboards ) The only hangup with the Epic is the lackluster support from Samsung. If you really like playing with new ROMs and constantly tweaking your phone, then the EVO will be better for you. Lets face it, HTC phones just have more support behind them. Hell, even the Hero is still getting updates...
Like i said, figure out what's most important to you and go from there.

The epic is a viable replacement. Its noticeably smaller though, even if its only .3 inches. That might make a difference. Other than that its basically the same+keyboard. And froyo isn't out officially yet. and there's a considerable difference in development for the epic and evo...so you might wanna take that into account too, although stock dk28 froyo is good enough. I've been running it since it firs got leaked and my gps is perfect and everythin else works. Even the browser. Wen froyo is officially released, this phone will easily beat evo
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Oh and swype is preinstalled lol
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Evo has Swype since last week's update.
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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Basically the phones are very similar. You should try to see about that warranty before you drop a load of cash on a phone that isn't all that different. Are you out of warrantee/due for an upgrade? T-Mobile Nexus S looks yummy

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That's a downgrade if you ask me, I have both unless you game and watch movies. The Evo is a better daily functional phone, hands down.
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Will have to agree with this statement. But again, this is MY OWN personal thoughts on it. I have both phones as well and I find myself using my EVO a lot more than my Epic. Not saying that the Epic is not a good phone because it is a good phone.
At the end of the day though, its all in what YOU want and what works best for YOU. Thats something no one can speak on. Either way, your in a win-win! GOOD LUCK!

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I have had 5 random restarts, seem to all happened during data usuage, but I haven't had random ones on this phone before. Trying to strain the phone some more now.
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I remember hearing someone say they had this issue on multiple EVOs..not sure if its true or not but this is not an issue on the Epic.
My usuage for my phone is mostly just the tether/wifi tether, facebook chat, texting, mp3 player occasionally, haven't really gotten into gaming on the phone.
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Well both phones can do what you want...things come to mind is our Inferstructure tethering is right now 2.1 only, hopefully will be fixed soon..if ad hoc or wire tethering is what you need 2.2 works...as for mp3, we got 5.1 surround sound option if you have headsets that support it..
I know it may me being paranoid... And I haven't bought a new phone in a while haha.
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Boils down to your financials..I say go play with an Epic at the store to get a feel for it before deciding though...you can load up 2.2 on their demo phones while they arent looking too lol
And anyone swype on their epic? Or is everyone all die hard keyboard?
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A lot of people use swype..most ppl use kb for long messages and gaming...in my case I need kb for remote desktop programming in emergencies...I use on screen kb by default...but I do enjoy using the physical kb for when surfing the net..I so hate using the onscreen kb when surfing webpages on all phones in general..mostly since..
1) web is ment to be surfed vertical resolution anyways
2) the onscreen kb popping up is a mess that blocks my screen :/
hence the physical KB makes surfing the net more enjoyable for me at least..
If you would like to know what we got going over the EVO its:
1) Better processor
2) 3x better GPU
3) 6 axis accelometer
4) super amoled
5) keyboard
6) Better camera
7) Better Audio
8) Gorilla Glass
9) Built in video drivers such as xvid/divx/mkv etc
10) and more...
and probably a few other things I'm missing...I'm not saying the Epic has no flaws..but its definitely a step up hardware spec wise..

I'm sorry guys...I had to do this!

I just had to say that I'm loving this phone. I just got it today and I'm damn near in tears right now! I put on 2.2.1 and I think im set for forever. This phone crushes the Evo in every way...Well..some may bring up updates and bla bla but look at it this way. Gingerbread on the Evo is gonna be like Froyo on the Hero.The Evo just doesnt have the hardware to actually benefit from what they are trying to do with Gingerbread...The Evo simply can't play high end games no matter what's going on and after running Gingerbread on my Evo...its basically 2.2.1 on this Epic but with the different UI and keyboard. Long live Epic!

Its ok I feel.the way you do. At least your post wasn't a post about why don't we have froyo yet. Glad you love your phone. Are you putting any custom roms on it? Trust me you'll love it even more if you pit bonsai rom on it.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!

I used the same old-fashioned cell phone for 10 years until I switched to a smartphone for the first time last September with the Epic 4G. Quite a shock, but well worth the careful wait.

musclehead84 said:
Its ok I feel.the way you do. At least your post wasn't a post about why don't we have froyo yet. Glad you love your phone. Are you putting any custom roms on it? Trust me you'll love it even more if you pit bonsai rom on it.
Sent from my Evo Killer!!!
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Ah, Froyo..well...to be honest, the Froyo for the Evo was pretty weak. It ran the same as 2.1, felt the same...only the sense from the Desire HD and Z and I think myTouch 4G actually have the real Froyo. The Evo just has the rushed Froyo >.< I'd much rather wait months for the real deal than the rushed one. And I just put some DK28 rom on it..like I said, I just got it today so if I'm sounding like an idiot please forgive me haha. I havent got the time to go through all of the posts in the Dev section. I did however go through the Dev section and look at some of the roms but there weren't many pics for most of em. I'd like to have the "stock" experience..I dont like themed roms. Is Bonsai themed?
Jayavarman said:
I used the same old-fashioned cell phone for 10 years until I switched to a smartphone for the first time last September with the Epic 4G. Quite a shock, but well worth the careful wait.
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You must've been blown away...this Epic is no entry level smartphone...this is the real deal. Looks like you may be set for another 10 years haha. I know I wont be changing phones for a while.

ms79723 said:
I'd like to have the "stock" experience..I dont like themed roms. Is Bonsai themed?
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The Frankenstein ROM strips away everything to reveal an even more stock stock. Very clean.

ms79723 said:
did however go through the Dev section and look at some of the roms but there weren't many pics for most of em. I'd like to have the "stock" experience..I dont like themed roms. Is Bonsai themed?
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Bonsai has it theme in a separate file so you can have the stock look or add the theme. And your timing is perfect, their new install process has streamlined everything to an amazing degree. I almost wish you'd started a week ago with the old way so you could appreciate what they've done

Yeah, I can't agree more. The ROM developers have made my Epic amazing.

Ya people hyped up the hero and the update was lame...

pipskicks said:
Ya people hyped up the hero and the update was lame...
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What?
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What?
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I referenced the Hero in the first post.

ms79723 said:
I just had to say that I'm loving this phone. I just got it today and I'm damn near in tears right now! I put on 2.2.1 and I think im set for forever. This phone crushes the Evo in every way...Well..some may bring up updates and bla bla but look at it this way. Gingerbread on the Evo is gonna be like Froyo on the Hero.The Evo just doesnt have the hardware to actually benefit from what they are trying to do with Gingerbread...The Evo simply can't play high end games no matter what's going on and after running Gingerbread on my Evo...its basically 2.2.1 on this Epic but with the different UI and keyboard. Long live Epic!
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i just switched to the epic too.

fixxxer2008 said:
i just switched to the epic too.
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welcome to the epic side fixxer
just be calm here

First time rooting a phone here cw3 ext4 flashed 2.2.1 running incredibly fast. So glad I didnt follow my friends to the evo

The part about Gingerbread on the Evo. The Hero had heaps of problems, and coming from that phone, I have to say I disagree with the board angry at Samsung b/c the Hero, G2 or whatever T-Mobile's version and quite a few other phones were all *****ing about updates....and their updates didn't do much.

So Fixxxer can we get Fresh on here too? You guys pumped up my Hero

The Epic was my second smartphone - quite a step up from the HTC Hero, which later died on me.
I live in Canada and bought this phone for $300 no contract off of eBay, brand new (apparently, the seller said that it had a bad ESN, although I don't really care), and while it does have it's flaws (poor battery life, although the Evo also suffered from this and I'm told that the Evo has worse battery life), a bad GPS (calibrating the GPS can fix it), overheating issues when gaming, and a keyboard that misses keys), it's an otherwise good phone. After playing around with other Galaxy S variants, the Desire HD, Desire Z, Nexus One, Sony X10, and a few LG handsets, I wouldn't trade this phone for any other Android phone released in 2010.
Welcome to the Epic community!

sauron0101 said:
The Epic was my second smartphone - quite a step up from the HTC Hero, which later died on me.
I live in Canada and bought this phone for $300 no contract off of eBay, brand new (apparently, the seller said that it had a bad ESN, although I don't really care), and while it does have it's flaws (poor battery life, although the Evo also suffered from this and I'm told that the Evo has worse battery life), a bad GPS (calibrating the GPS can fix it), overheating issues when gaming, and a keyboard that misses keys), it's an otherwise good phone. After playing around with other Galaxy S variants, the Desire HD, Desire Z, Nexus One, Sony X10, and a few LG handsets, I wouldn't trade this phone for any other Android phone released in 2010.
Welcome to the Epic community!
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Let me tell you something sir...the issues like battery life and overheating are here but when compared to the Evo..I wouldnt even call them issues really.
With my Evo, battery life was so bad...I wish I could tell you how bad. Some people may say "its not that bad once you get a kernel" but it is that bad. This DK28 kernel gave me 7 hours with some pretty heavy usage, when i needed to charge it, i was at 10%...and I had 4G enabled the whole time. Thats not possible with the Evo at all...with how I was using the phone, I'd probably only get 3.5 hours. Battery life is abysmal. The worst thing I've ever seen on a smartphone.
Now with the overheating...this phone does some weird stuff. I cant understand it really...the battery temp stays around 80...thats the same with the Evo. While in use, the temp goes up to 86...thats with a lot of usage (listening to music and browsing). And then after it being at 86 for a while...it drops down to 83 while its still in use. Can the Evo do that? Hell no. The Evo goes from 80 to 96 in a New York minute, then continues to increase! You have to use setCPU profiles for screen off just to try to manage the temperature...its terrifying. So I mean...yeah the Epic heats up and what not and the battery aint 18 hours with heavy usage out of the box, but when it is compared to these HTC phones, this phone just looks perfect.
And i dont really want to start posting comments where im comparing the Evo and Epic but Im just so blown away...I mean, I put so much time into the Evo and its basically all I know but now that I have this Epic..this device is just so damn perfect, I cant stop talking about it..cant stop posting about it...this is how an android phone should be. I mean omg...has anyone ever looked at how it reads the voltages and temperature on here? Samsung has done it all right...its timers are spot on so when you use apps like Battery Indicator Pro, you can actually see differences because of the better timers. The Epic also has better voltage-percentage battery readings...while the Evo is all over the place. It will say 100% is 4.135V and then 99% is 4.035V then 98% would be 4.111V...I hated that. And because the Evo did that, you would always experience random drops in percentage after waking the phone up because it only checked the battery voltage when it was awake so..people in the Evo forum would be like "HEY GUYS, I LEFT MY PHONE OFF THE CHARGER FOR X-AMOUNT OF HOURS WHILE I WAS SLEEPING AND DIDNT LOSE A DROP!!" Well..they did in fact lose a lot of power, the phone just didnt match up teh voltages with the percentages while the phone was sleeping, so when they would start using the phone, the phone would drain like crazy while it tried to get to the right percentage. So annoying...
Im sorry for my rambling, I really am...its just that there's so much to compare here...and I dont think anyone's ever mentioned the voltage-percentage readings when comparing the phone, so at least im not saying anything thats been repeated.

Yes...I too am in love with my Epic. That love would be intensified if the keyboard issue was resolved. If our keyboard was better this phone would be on God level...its more Demi-God/Perseus level now. Still an amazing phone.

Quis89 said:
Yes...I too am in love with my Epic. That love would be intensified if the keyboard issue was resolved. If our keyboard was better this phone would be on God level...its more Demi-God/Perseus level now. Still an amazing phone.
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You talking about hitting multiple keys as in the issue? Strange enough..I only do that when Im in will lit areas where I can actually see the outline of the keys. When Im in a dark room and all i have to rely on is the backlight, im all good. But whats worse is that in both scenarios i do hit the other keys a lot, but it only registers one. So im constantly double checking because i hear like 3 clicks but it puts the letter i want up. Its kinda annoying but its all good.
Another thing that bugs me is the damn charging cable. That thing will come out for no reason. With the Evo, it was locked in so good you could give the phone with the cable in to one person and you grab the other end and together you could swing it around and jump rope. I move my phone over an inch and it pops out. But its all good.
And how many people installed the gingerbread theme? This thing is popping...the blacks...ahhhhh i love it. My background is black as well (got it from some backgrounds from the app Grallery. If y'all never used that app for backgrounds, you should check it out. Its a ton of abstract art and it looks amazing). With the black background and the vibrant colors on that background and the black status bar...it looks crazy in a dark room. Doesnt even look like you're holding a damn phone because it all blends in to the dark surrounding your in but yet the colors pop out...its just jaw dropping.
Edit: Going to try Bonsai right now...I hope its not themed...well even if it is..im just going to flash the Gingerbread theme right over it...

ms79723 said:
Another thing that bugs me is the damn charging cable. That thing will come out for no reason. With the Evo, it was locked in so good you could give the phone with the cable in to one person and you grab the other end and together you could swing it around and jump rope. I move my phone over an inch and it pops out. But its all good.
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My Epic is nothing like that ..You can plug in the stock charging cable, it snugs in on mine...I don't know about jump roping
But I can certainly, have the Epic dangling in the air by lifting it by the cable And it wont come out
Your cable might be messed up...You might want to try another different one.