froyo finally - Fascinate General

http://support.vzw.com/system_update/samsung_fascinate.html
about time

Has anyone checked this at all? I'm guessing its probably ed01?

The pdf states it is in fact froyo with ed01.. at least it's here though, regardless of that fact!

Yep. According to BGR delivery starts tomorrow.
I'll have to check my wife's phone tonight/tomorrow to see what's up. However, the last update was posted on VZW site a couple of days before it was actual OTA on her phone.

anyone care to speculate on the steps required to receive the ota update if you're already running a leaked froyo modem/kernel/rom?
I settled into the stock de-binged ec01 modem & rom with imnuts' 100mv uv kernel... The rom allows me to check for ota updates - and as of now says no updates are available...
It'll be interesting to see if ota will try to update my "ec01" to an official ED01. I doubt it, and I doubt it would be successful if it tried...
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bmeek said:
anyone care to speculate on the steps required to receive the ota update if you're already running a leaked froyo modem/kernel/rom?
I settled into the stock de-binged ec01 modem & rom with imnuts' 100mv uv kernel... The rom allows me to check for ota updates - and as of now says no updates are available...
It'll be interesting to see if ota will try to update my "ec01" to an official ED01. I doubt it, and I doubt it would be successful if it tried...
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Wondering the same thing. I have EB01 debloated (by urs truly) with EC01 radio. I'm able to run the status check but no update as of yet. gonna be interesting to see if they let me update to ED01. If past holds true I'll have to go back to EA28 then update that way....
jv

According to the Post on Android central this will be a manual update and not OTA and that it will be ED01, which is the same as the leaked EC01.
http://www.androidcentral.com/andro...mpaign=Feed:+androidcentral+(Android+Central)

Just keep refreshing this page.
http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads/SCH-I500RKAVZW

I'm just going to be waiting and watching the Developments forum before I make any moves. I'm happy with Black Hole 4.4 and NitroComb as it is.
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Makes me wonder as well if we might get a newer radio then the EC01.

You will see an official ED01 radio but i believe it should be the same as the leaked EC01.
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jselden said:
According to the Post on Android central this will be a manual update and not OTA and that it will be ED01, which is the same as the leaked EC01.
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The vzw link in the op has instructions pointing to an ota process...
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I'll be working on de-f*cking it. Namely getting rid of bing which I despise to death.

@tonu42 Sir you just made me laugh real hard lol
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I would advise most on here to hold off on the ota update. They are touting a "feature" of bing voice search, meaning deeper bing integration. Probably one of the things that held this update up so long. I'll be waiting for a stripped down rom. It's just a shame that the source is so bad that development on our phones is not going to be as robust as it should for all its power.

Kamar234 said:
I would advise most on here to hold off on the ota update. They are touting a "feature" of bing voice search, meaning deeper bing integration. Probably one of the things that held this update up so long. I'll be waiting for a stripped down rom. It's just a shame that the source is so bad that development on our phones is not going to be as robust as it should for all its power.
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I would bet that ec01 is the stripped down rom & that the radio is the same ec01 leaked last week. Remember Adrynalyne said the build prop was altered to change the date for leak protection. They got it & already fixed it for us. You can't beat XDA!
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The vzw link in the op has instructions pointing to an ota process...
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Yeah i noticed that after seeing it on a few other sites. Bah!

Downloading OTA in NYC, I guess they released it nationwide.

Manual ED01 download links and update instructions for those who don't have the update available or want to download it and play with it first.

any ETA as to when a root tool will be available for the VZW 2.2 release?

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UK I9000 official firmware upgrade

All,
I just got a prompt from Kies. There is an official upgrade! It offers JM1 firmware.
What firmware have you got now?
Stock - JF3
That's it? That's their fix is it? A beta firmware called JM1, where quite a lot of people have already updated to JM2 and JM5?
It does not solve a thing. The underlying problems still remain. JMX firmware merely dampens things down and is a bit more intelligent in drawing a path. It doesn't solve GPS stability issues, lock or anything else.
If this is the direction Samsung are going, then I think this sends a signal that the issue is not fixable and this is just a fudge.
Roll on October for a HTC Desire HD.
Hi All
I have upgraded to the new firmware but now i am unable to download some apps from the market place
I had myplayer on my phone before the upgrade and now when i search for it on the market its not there
Does anyone know why i cant see it my mate can see myplayer on his htc desire phone.
Ha, I bloody knew it would be one we've already seen! Unless someone can confirm this actually fixes anything I'm not letting it anywhere near my phone.
It makes sense that it's a previous leak, the official releases are always going to lag behind the leaks we get.
Presumably they thought JM1 was enough of an update and stable enough for release to justify making it official.
There'll be more, just got to wait
But this was supposed to be "We have a fix guys, yeah, we'll release it in Beta" kind of attitude.
It's not fix at all, just a flaming fudge.
No lag-fix at all? Very, very disappointed!
No one said it was a fix, just an official firmware update. Fixes will probably come out in betas first. Thanks OP for the info.
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No lag-fix at all? Very, very disappointed!
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What waste the hours on 2. 1 where they should spend it on 2.2.?
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hey at least they came through with their hold up to ship new inventory using the new ROM
1. how do I figure out what firmware I am on? ( not in phone status)
2. Do I have to instal kies to update it?
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I dont give a damn for any Kies notification as long as its not about an official Froyo release. Not that we all wouldnt have it by that time on our SGS already...
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Use the *#1234# code on your phonecall-keyboard to see what firmware ur running on.
Kies isnt the only way to upgrade ur firmware version, its just the official way. I've used ODIN3.
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Thanks!
I am on JF1...is that older than JF3?
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Is there any way for us to know if this JM1 is exactly the same as the "unofficial" one?
It would be interesting to see if anyone could compare this official release to the beta release to see if any final changes have been made
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Thanks!
I am on JF1...is that older than JF3?
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Here you can check the version tree: http://samsung-firmware.webs.com/samsungi9000.htm
Cheers mate much appreciated! Looks like I am well out of date
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More updates later on?

Saw this article from Phandroid earlier. Seems interesting that T-Mobile would push this update *yes, probably to shut us up* but then sit on some other updates *possibly KA7?*
Here's the read.
Samsung Vibrant Froyo Update Available Only as an Optional Kies Update, Mandatory OTA Coming Later?
t looks like there is, in fact, a catch to the Samsung Vibrant update to Android 2.2 through T-Mobile. While an update is indeed being made available to users in the form of a build version KA6, word from inside T-Mobile is suggesting that this is an optional update coming via the Samsung Kies software, perhaps merely to quiet detractors and negative press buzz. If T-Mobile’s own statements aren’t enough, a build with the version number KA7 leaking out earlier today also suggests that a future, mandatory update to Froyo will be coming over-the-air at a later date.
This is all speculation for now, as we haven’t heard word from any Vibrant users that they have received an update notification on their handset. We will keep our ears to the ground as the day unfolds and the situation develops.
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http://phandroid.com/2011/01/21/samsung-vibrant-froyo-update-available-only-as-an-optional-kies-update-mandatory-ota-coming-later/
I just posted that thought in another thread.
I bet that's exactly what happened.
There was a lot of heat going on. ka6 is "good enough" so they posted that. Anyone complaining would know how to use kies, update and stop complaining. They'll update the masses later on with a final build via ota.
A lot of people on here including me skippes the kies KA6 and went to 7. For me its a good build but maybe another one will follow. It seems some people are very disappointed by the update. And then we have another leak the day of the "official" makes the "we'll update later" seem real.
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Hmm, this article definitely is giving me food for thought.
I think I'm gonna wait until the real update pops up.
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Well, they'll have to give us 2.2.1 soon, right? Or people will set T-Mobile HQ on fire.
So I'm pretty sure that KA6 is just a "to shut us up" release.
^^ Pretty much yes.
Who know's if we will see 2.2.1. They're HQ might still start on fire if people's phones don't work after their "official Froyo" release.. lol.
Actually. Posted this in the thread that phandroid used for their speculation. they by using kies got the update out to people who wanted it. But the lack of source code suggest it is not the upgrade samsung and tmobile wanted to push as samsung usually lets go of the source code at the same time as the upgrade which makes this a "Here is your upgrade now be quiet" type of upgrade.
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Actually. Posted this in the thread that phandroid used for their speculation. they by using kies got the update out to people who wanted it. But the lack of source code suggest it is not the upgrade samsung and tmobile wanted to push as samsung usually lets go of the source code at the same time as the upgrade which makes this a "Here is your upgrade now be quiet" type of upgrade.
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My thoughts exactly. The source they eventually release will probably be KA7 or later. The good thing about the release is that it puts them on the clock to release source.
yeah, but maybe a lot of people will still be happy for the ka6. It will be a huge impact to them.(people who don't flash custom roms)
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yeah, but maybe a lot of people will still be happy for the ka6. It will be a huge impact to them.(people who don't flash custom roms)
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I agree. It is good they released it. But it was because of the bad press. If it wasn't they would have released the source code by now.
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File this under conjecture:
Just talked to a t-mobile mobile rep who owns vibrant and said he didn't download froyo because gingerbread will be released ota in the next 4 weeks. This is why froyo isn't a mandatory upgrade.
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wrxpirate said:
File this under conjecture:
Just talked to a t-mobile mobile rep who owns vibrant and said he didn't download froyo because gingerbread will be released ota in the next 4 weeks. This is why froyo isn't a mandatory upgrade.
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So funny
Why don't they train their reps on the phone to just STFU lol.
They constantly just give out false info.
Yes I know I can not know for a fact that what that rep said is a lie. But we all know it is...
wrxpirate said:
File this under conjecture:
Just talked to a t-mobile mobile rep who owns vibrant and said he didn't download froyo because gingerbread will be released ota in the next 4 weeks. This is why froyo isn't a mandatory upgrade.
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Really? My uncle said the same thing, that's crazy!
Those damn T-Mo reps are at it again 8|
Okay so if you release a update (froyo) you MUST release a source code? I didn't know that, I though they choose to do that, lol I learn something new everyday on here.
Gingerbread in 4 weeks? Doubt it, froyo isn't even working right yet, if anything Gingerbread will be on the Vibrant 4g..
cashyftw said:
Okay so if you release a update (froyo) you MUST release a source code? I didn't know that, I though they choose to do that, lol I learn something new everyday on here.
Gingerbread in 4 weeks? Doubt it, froyo isn't even working right yet, if anything Gingerbread will be on the Vibrant 4g..
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Since Android is free code, you have to release the source of everything non-proprietary that you've done to it.
wrxpirate said:
File this under conjecture:
Just talked to a t-mobile mobile rep who owns vibrant and said he didn't download froyo because gingerbread will be released ota in the next 4 weeks. This is why froyo isn't a mandatory upgrade.
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Right, so in a few weeks they'll release the Vibrant 4G, their new flagship 4G phone, with Froyo, and at the same time they'll update the original Vibrant to Gingerbread? I... just don't believe that.
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These phones finally support necessary Exchange policies. It was a necessary update for business users. The Exchange client also isnt killing the battery in half a day anymore.
I do wish they had kept the Android keyboard in it, though
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There is a topic over at the tmobile forums where someone got off the phone with a rep saying that the rep swore that they where not getting an update yesterday. The dope then tried the tech support online and they repeated this.
2 hours after this brillant topic was created we all had the update that 2 REPS said we wouldn't. Point of this story? STOP POSTING THESE FRIGGING STORIES THEY ARE NEVER RIGHT

Feb 22nd Froyo OTA

So has anyone that's on stock EA28 tried to check for an OTA update to see of the rumor of the aforementioned 2.2.1 OTA is actually being pushed today like various sources said it is supposed to be?
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Call me ocd; but yes, Ive tried 4x in last 2 hrs. Nothing... Grrr.
If nothing happens,i think this may be the day that I cave and root.
When (if) something appears ull be the first to know.
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Just root and install EB01...
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iTz Nicholas72 said:
Just root and install EB01...
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many of us are curious as to when/if the ota will drop...despite being on eb01 already.
basically the sooner the ota starts, the (hopefully) sooner the froyo source is released from samsung.
nitsuj17 said:
many of us are curious as to when/if the ota will drop...despite being on eb01 already.
basically the sooner the ota starts, the (hopefully) sooner the froyo source is released from samsung.
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What nitsuj17 said.
I'm already on EB01 with his port of Matted Blues Engraved. I'm just curious if anyone that's still on stock EA28 has checked for an update.
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I have stock, EA28, and checking every 1/2 hour still nothing ( if not today im going to break down and do the reading and root. so much to read though ugg.
Actually the epic didn't get ota, to my understanding they had a download on the website. Maybe we will too?
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Stock 2.1 tried OTA - nothing. Oceanside, Ca.
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Eb01 ftw!!!
rockin:
eb01 v2.4 non vd
midnight 1.1 theme
btw, this was 8pen-ed.
jam.i.s0n said:
Eb01 ftw!!!
rockin:
eb01 v2.4 non vd
midnight 1.1 theme
btw, this was 8pen-ed.
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What?
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Eb01 ftw!!!
rockin:
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midnight 1.1 theme
btw, this was 8pen-ed.
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?
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Did vz drop ota or not can anyone confirm
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ilprobu2 said:
Did vz drop ota or not can anyone confirm
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I will confirm for you in a few hours, but I can pretty much guarantee that its a negative, and the people who leaked it are full of merd.
I'm running stock and haven't received any notifications that there is an OTA update.
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Expected as much from our loyal providers..
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Considering that EB01 still has a number of problems (like the new GPS issues), I'd imagine they'd hold off on releasing until there's nothing too major.
Plus, they haven't announced that they're going to do anything, so it seems highly doubtful it's coming out today.
Totally agree.. Besides if they can not get bing up in our face what's the point of even updating us .. Ever
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KitsuneKnight said:
Considering that EB01 still has a number of problems (like the new GPS issues), I'd imagine they'd hold off on releasing until there's nothing too major.
Plus, they haven't announced that they're going to do anything, so it seems highly doubtful it's coming out today.
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That hasn't stopped them from pushing out updates with a multitude of issues before. lol Just release the source. Who cares if it's buggy? Our wonderful developers will fix it and then Verizon can use that to push out to everyone.
PJnc284 said:
That hasn't stopped them from pushing out updates with a multitude of issues before. lol Just release the source. Who cares if it's buggy? Our wonderful developers will fix it and then Verizon can use that to push out to everyone.
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Unfortunately the majority of Fascinate owners will never be able to reap the rewards of all the hard work that our developers put into making Samsung's Fascinate an actually great phone.
I am surprised that the Epic 4G got theirs as scheduled. We may not get it today but we will soon enough!

Will we get Froyo automatically?

I hate to have to ask this question, but I've read 6 or 7 threads in the last hour and can't find a straight answer. I'm in S. FL. Will Froyo be updated on our phones automatically?
I understand I can update manually, but I don't have time for that, which is part of the reason I left WinMo.
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If you are on stock Android 2.1 (Eclair), you will get the update over the air within the next 3 days.
If you are not stock Android 2.1 (Eclair), you won't.
Yes. If you are not rooted and stock rom, you'll get a notice on your phone over the next few days when it's your area's turn. If you are rooted, you should still get it if you are on stock rom and all the bloatware is still there.
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lategordon said:
If you are on stock Android 2.1 (Eclair), you will get the update over the air within the next 3 days.
If you are not stock Android 2.1 (Eclair), you won't.
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Perfect! Exactly what I needed to know. I'll just wait 3 days, thanks.
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The first update we received a few months back took a week to get to my phone, and it kept popping up at rather inconvenient times when it finally showed. The visual voice mail update took 4 weeks to get to my phone. I'm in Central FL
I did the simple update method, which I posted about here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=964260. I had my update installed before most OTAs, and I did it on my time. You could do it on your lunch break without issue.
you know it just takes 10 minutes right.
do it while you're taking a dump or something
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I'm in S. FL.
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Oh ah um, yeah, they don't update people in S. FL.
Location has NUTZINK to do with it.
Ok, so it's now a week later and still no update. Will this update ever be pushed?
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Call sprint or just do it manually.
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http://community.sprint.com/baw/com.../2010/11/08/samsung-epic-maintenance-releases
The update has been temporarily suspended, its been causing a lot of trouble with peoples phones. If you really want it, you're going to have to use the update.zip.
Ok, at this rate I will never get an update pushed to my phone. I wonder if its safe for me to just update manually.
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Recommend using the 200meg update tool from samsung if doing manual. Just back up everthing
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Tbtltdts said:
Recommend using the 200meg update tool from samsung if doing manual. Just back up everthing
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Just realize that the Samsung tool wipes everything on your phone, and if you are on stock 2.1 I don't think there is any good way to back up everything. (no clockwork backup and titanium wont work w/o root)
My backup pro works just fine. it will save data and apps with data.
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So is that it, Samsung not going to release the fixed Froyo!? After waiting eternity, Samsung released a long over due Froyo just to shutup pissed customers, only for the release to be buggie and them take it down shortly after and totally forget about us again! I think this will be the last Samsung phone I ever buy!
Samsung = company that only cares about future products...not supporting current/old ones.
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Gingerbread Confusion???

I know there are about 12,000 threads on Gingerbread, but I have yet to see anyone point out a link or a website or anything where we can go to confirm when Gingerbread has been OFFICIALLY released for the Epic 4G. The last I heard on these forums, it was last slated for the last week of July. It's now the last day of July, but I don't see any posts about an official release and how/where to get it. And I keep seeing the word "STOCK" in the mod rom forum, which is confusing...have they officially released Gingerbread for the Epic 4G yet? If not, is there a new date for it's release? Is there a website or specific thread that I can routinely check that will announce when it's out? I just saw a thread showing a leaked pic about the EOL for the Epic 4G in October of this year. Having just switched from the Tilt 2 on AT&T to the Epic 4G on Sprint 2 months ago, I'm not fond of seeing that my new phone will be out of date in another 2 months.
Can anyone clear up some of this confusion?
Thanks.
~Z
there is no official release date. what you see in development are leaks.
No official release yet. Just leaks.
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That's just when they are going to stop manufacturing new ones. There's plenty of development left to come. Right now it looks like a possible September release for the official. These leaks come out and its almost as if we are Samsung's beta testers used to search out the glitches. The EG22 leak is actually pretty good. If you are big on GPS use, you may want to go with the EE03 modem. As far as an official release date, as soon as its known, you will se a thread here with a link to the source of the info almost immediately. Try out a few of the GB ROMs here. There are some very nice ones. If you want a Froyo ROM that has everything working, try SRF 1.2 or Urban Regeneration.
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When u see stock it means its stock. However all the gingerbread roms u see are all made from a gingerbread leak that was release. No official yet.
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i just want to thank you guys for not screaming at him for not searching or whatever. that crap gets so old.
schnowdapowda said:
i just want to thank you guys for not screaming at him for not searching or whatever. that crap gets so old.
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I agree schnowda. Not everybody lives on XDA. Some people just come on here to get info and goodies. There's no need to tear everyone a new a$$hole.
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schnowdapowda said:
i just want to thank you guys for not screaming at him for not searching or whatever. that crap gets so old.
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+1
But also, according to Tweets from Samfirmware, they have information of two builds to be released Mid and/or late August at least from what I've gathered, so we've leaks but we're close to a possible Official Release.
A while back didn't someone say that Samsung guaranteed us two more updates? I couldn't even attempt to find the thread it was mentioned in, can't remember any title it would belong to.
AproSamurai said:
+1
But also, according to Tweets from Samfirmware, they have information of two builds to be released Mid and/or late August at least from what I've gathered, so we've leaks but we're close to a possible Official Release.
A while back didn't someone say that Samsung guaranteed us two more updates? I couldn't even attempt to find the thread it was mentioned in, can't remember any title it would belong to.
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Yup, I was told that by someone on G-Talk as well. I was told 2 more leaks by the end of August. That's why I said maybe September. I don't mind. Let them fix that modem. Let the GPS get fixed at least as good as Froyo and the stock browser and such. The leaks are good enough to keep people happy for now. I am patient. I still use Froyo as my daily.
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AproSamurai said:
+1
But also, according to Tweets from Samfirmware, they have information of two builds to be released Mid and/or late August at least from what I've gathered, so we've leaks but we're close to a possible Official Release.
A while back didn't someone say that Samsung guaranteed us two more updates? I couldn't even attempt to find the thread it was mentioned in, can't remember any title it would belong to.
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It was probably Korey aka Whosdaman.
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It was probably Korey aka Whosdaman.
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Samfirmware did confirm it in a tweet or post. They did make that promise. I wish I had the link to post, unfortunately I don't.
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JohnCorleone said:
Samfirmware did confirm it in a tweet or post. They did make that promise. I wish I had the link to post, unfortunately I don't.
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If that's the case on another test leak for us...they might as well release some source code for custom kernels and so we can resume work on our CM7 builds #fairtosay....you think they will?
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If that's the case on another test leak for us...they might as well release some source code for custom kernels and so we can resume work on our CM7 builds #fairtosay....you think they will?
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In an ideal world I'd like to think so, but for that they probably in the end would want more premium accounts and possibly couldn't deliver something as pivotal as that, I'd like to hope I'm proven wrong honestly.
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