Saw this article from Phandroid earlier. Seems interesting that T-Mobile would push this update *yes, probably to shut us up* but then sit on some other updates *possibly KA7?*
Here's the read.
Samsung Vibrant Froyo Update Available Only as an Optional Kies Update, Mandatory OTA Coming Later?
t looks like there is, in fact, a catch to the Samsung Vibrant update to Android 2.2 through T-Mobile. While an update is indeed being made available to users in the form of a build version KA6, word from inside T-Mobile is suggesting that this is an optional update coming via the Samsung Kies software, perhaps merely to quiet detractors and negative press buzz. If T-Mobile’s own statements aren’t enough, a build with the version number KA7 leaking out earlier today also suggests that a future, mandatory update to Froyo will be coming over-the-air at a later date.
This is all speculation for now, as we haven’t heard word from any Vibrant users that they have received an update notification on their handset. We will keep our ears to the ground as the day unfolds and the situation develops.
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http://phandroid.com/2011/01/21/samsung-vibrant-froyo-update-available-only-as-an-optional-kies-update-mandatory-ota-coming-later/
I just posted that thought in another thread.
I bet that's exactly what happened.
There was a lot of heat going on. ka6 is "good enough" so they posted that. Anyone complaining would know how to use kies, update and stop complaining. They'll update the masses later on with a final build via ota.
A lot of people on here including me skippes the kies KA6 and went to 7. For me its a good build but maybe another one will follow. It seems some people are very disappointed by the update. And then we have another leak the day of the "official" makes the "we'll update later" seem real.
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Hmm, this article definitely is giving me food for thought.
I think I'm gonna wait until the real update pops up.
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Well, they'll have to give us 2.2.1 soon, right? Or people will set T-Mobile HQ on fire.
So I'm pretty sure that KA6 is just a "to shut us up" release.
^^ Pretty much yes.
Who know's if we will see 2.2.1. They're HQ might still start on fire if people's phones don't work after their "official Froyo" release.. lol.
Actually. Posted this in the thread that phandroid used for their speculation. they by using kies got the update out to people who wanted it. But the lack of source code suggest it is not the upgrade samsung and tmobile wanted to push as samsung usually lets go of the source code at the same time as the upgrade which makes this a "Here is your upgrade now be quiet" type of upgrade.
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Actually. Posted this in the thread that phandroid used for their speculation. they by using kies got the update out to people who wanted it. But the lack of source code suggest it is not the upgrade samsung and tmobile wanted to push as samsung usually lets go of the source code at the same time as the upgrade which makes this a "Here is your upgrade now be quiet" type of upgrade.
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My thoughts exactly. The source they eventually release will probably be KA7 or later. The good thing about the release is that it puts them on the clock to release source.
yeah, but maybe a lot of people will still be happy for the ka6. It will be a huge impact to them.(people who don't flash custom roms)
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yeah, but maybe a lot of people will still be happy for the ka6. It will be a huge impact to them.(people who don't flash custom roms)
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I agree. It is good they released it. But it was because of the bad press. If it wasn't they would have released the source code by now.
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File this under conjecture:
Just talked to a t-mobile mobile rep who owns vibrant and said he didn't download froyo because gingerbread will be released ota in the next 4 weeks. This is why froyo isn't a mandatory upgrade.
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File this under conjecture:
Just talked to a t-mobile mobile rep who owns vibrant and said he didn't download froyo because gingerbread will be released ota in the next 4 weeks. This is why froyo isn't a mandatory upgrade.
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So funny
Why don't they train their reps on the phone to just STFU lol.
They constantly just give out false info.
Yes I know I can not know for a fact that what that rep said is a lie. But we all know it is...
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File this under conjecture:
Just talked to a t-mobile mobile rep who owns vibrant and said he didn't download froyo because gingerbread will be released ota in the next 4 weeks. This is why froyo isn't a mandatory upgrade.
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Really? My uncle said the same thing, that's crazy!
Those damn T-Mo reps are at it again 8|
Okay so if you release a update (froyo) you MUST release a source code? I didn't know that, I though they choose to do that, lol I learn something new everyday on here.
Gingerbread in 4 weeks? Doubt it, froyo isn't even working right yet, if anything Gingerbread will be on the Vibrant 4g..
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Okay so if you release a update (froyo) you MUST release a source code? I didn't know that, I though they choose to do that, lol I learn something new everyday on here.
Gingerbread in 4 weeks? Doubt it, froyo isn't even working right yet, if anything Gingerbread will be on the Vibrant 4g..
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Since Android is free code, you have to release the source of everything non-proprietary that you've done to it.
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File this under conjecture:
Just talked to a t-mobile mobile rep who owns vibrant and said he didn't download froyo because gingerbread will be released ota in the next 4 weeks. This is why froyo isn't a mandatory upgrade.
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Right, so in a few weeks they'll release the Vibrant 4G, their new flagship 4G phone, with Froyo, and at the same time they'll update the original Vibrant to Gingerbread? I... just don't believe that.
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These phones finally support necessary Exchange policies. It was a necessary update for business users. The Exchange client also isnt killing the battery in half a day anymore.
I do wish they had kept the Android keyboard in it, though
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There is a topic over at the tmobile forums where someone got off the phone with a rep saying that the rep swore that they where not getting an update yesterday. The dope then tried the tech support online and they repeated this.
2 hours after this brillant topic was created we all had the update that 2 REPS said we wouldn't. Point of this story? STOP POSTING THESE FRIGGING STORIES THEY ARE NEVER RIGHT
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Samsung confirms gingerbread for SGS! I haven't seen a time table for it but I'm willing to bet we will get it by the end of january
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Samsung confirms gingerbread for SGS! I haven't seen a time table for it but I'm willing to bet we will get it by the end of january
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Link plox?
http://phandroid.com/2010/12/08/samsung-on-galaxy-s-gingerbread-possibility-maybe-but-maybe-not/
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http://phandroid.com/2010/12/08/samsung-on-galaxy-s-gingerbread-possibility-maybe-but-maybe-not/
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This was already posted, while it does offer good news its not 100% indicator..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=866053
That was the same link we've been discussing for a bit isn't it? There is no specific announcement there its the same "we'll think about it."
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it is going to happen the nexus one can run it. Our phone is much more powerful that the the nexus S is very similar. They pulled back froyo. All signs point to us getting it but it will most likely take 2 months for binaries to be released and a build to be compiled. And I don't want to hear the nah sayers going on and on that you can't trust samsung blah blah blah... Even noob said we are getting it and I know he is on this inside track.
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Samsung confirms gingerbread for SGS! I haven't seen a time table for it but I'm willing to bet we will get it by the end of january
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lol. More like the end of January of 2012. Its funny that we didnt even get 2.2 before the release of 2.3. Lame samsung and sprint.
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lol. More like the end of January of 2012. Its funny that we didnt even get 2.2 before the release of 2.3. Lame samsung and sprint.
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This isnt 3.0 it is a build upgrade from 2.1 a totally new build takes about 6months and upgrade is about 2 months.
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We will probably get it around the time that 3.0 comes out or 3.1 usually how it works. 2.3 comes out now..sprint releases 2.2 to epics... at least we get updates faster than most US carriers do. Look at evo. Sprint plz OTA 2.2 already.
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lol. More like the end of January of 2012. Its funny that we didnt even get 2.2 before the release of 2.3. Lame samsung and sprint.
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We are actually getting 2.2.1, not 2.2...2.2.1 came out at the end of september, and Galaxy S would be the first to have it...Motorola is working on 2.2.1 as well...
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We are actually getting 2.2.1, not 2.2...2.2.1 came out at the end of september, and Galaxy S would be the first to have it...Motorola is working on 2.2.1 as well...
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Droid already has 2.2.1 - boss man got it last thursday OTA i think. He isn't rooted.
Droid X went live on the 10th as well.
All in all google is going to greater lengths to help push out the updates faster. Its one of the biggest gripes with android. Look to the gingerbread update to change things. After gingerbread android os will be much more uniform.
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Droid already has 2.2.1 - boss man got it last thursday OTA i think. He isn't rooted.
Droid X went live on the 10th as well.
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Hmm...I guess I missed that since I was fairly busy this week..ok then ...up for second place before the EVO gets it samsung? lol
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All in all google is going to greater lengths to help push out the updates faster. Its one of the biggest gripes with android. Look to the gingerbread update to change things. After gingerbread android os will be much more uniform.
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I expect things to change greatly once 3.0 comes out..this is when release cycles for android will slow down thus giving manufacturers more leeway..
Agreed. I think they are planning on phazing out UI overlays as well when 3.0 comes out. No more motoblur, sense, tw, etc. For the tech geek we like it because we port things over from other platforms. But the Ios boobs they just want something shiny and homoginized, and that's probably the demographing android wants to really take on
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Samsung confirms gingerbread for SGS! I haven't seen a time table for it but I'm willing to bet we will get it by the end of january
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Utter misinformation.
As of today, Samsung's U.S. Galaxy S support site on Twitter still denies that there has been any such announcement.
@JoeBatson no official statement about updating US Galaxy S line to 2.3 has been made & we aren't prepared to discuss this at this time.
about 2 hours ago via CoTweet in reply to JoeBatson
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I think we will see Gingerbread in the form of a flashable rom before we see an official release, if we even see one. I hope we do.
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If sprint pushes gingerbread by end of jan I will **** a brick.
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If sprint pushes gingerbread by end of jan I will **** a brick.
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If Sprint pushes gingerbread by the end of january, I will eat the brick.
Does he relize we don't have 2.2 official yet?
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If Sprint pushes gingerbread by the end of january, I will eat the brick.
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If we don't get gingerbread before you can buy a honeycomb tablet or phone, I'll throw a brick.
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http://www.intomobile.com/2011/01/20/samsung-galaxy-s-android-221-update/
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That sucks we gotta wait longer but if true it's a good thing .. Plus adds more truth to them releasing the source code soon...
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sounds promising!
I'm not sure what I just read :-\ what update is it giving us?
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I'm not sure what I just read :-\ what update is it giving us?
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The plain Samsung Galaxy S is getting an update from 2.2 to 2.2.1. I think the OP was posting this to show that Samsung is updating it's other Galaxy S phones, while we're yet to receive our own official 2.2 or 2.2.1 update.
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I'm not sure what I just read :-\ what update is it giving us?
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Its not giving us an update in the US this is for the I9000 galaxy s in europe and the rest of the world from the sounds of it but maybe this is a good sign that we will be getting our froyo soon. But I somehow doubt it.
The European Galaxy S has had Froyo for a while now. This is just saying that they are doing OTA updates now for those that hadn't done it previously through the Kies software.
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http://www.androidgod.net/2011/03/2...eek-update-kies-to-get-ready-for-android-2-3/
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"2.3.2 will be Worldwide but carriers will be Delayed.”
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just like with froyo...took us months to get froyo for the vibrant after the i9000 got it so this means nothing for the vibrant
if im reading that correctly that does meant that we will eventually be getting gingerbread but if im not mistaken the release coming next week is supposed to be for international sgs phones.
I thought the vibrant was a US only variant? Also you would think we would have seen leaked builds by now from krylon.
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I thought the vibrant was a US only variant? Also you would think we would have seen leaked builds by now from krylon.
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I thought Krylon jumped ship a while back. Isn't he now doing a lot for the Nexus S. I assume he will still realease stuff for the Vibrant just not as often.
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it would be nice.... but I won't hold my breath
Wow, I just had a Froyo thread flashback
Hopefully soon.
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I hope it's true. I mean it was an official post by samsung romania, so maybe we will see gingerbread ROM's soon. Plus a full cyanogen mod!
Releasing March 30th... why not April 1st?
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Releasing March 30th... why not April 1st?
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Doesn't matter what day it is released. It is a joke either way!
I'm not holding my breath nor do I really care anymore. I am super content with 2.2.1 simply honey even though its not meant for our phones.
I tried installing kies again and updated it tio the version required but I can't get kies tio recognize my phone. Kies 2.0 doesn't support my phone.
Is been much time since I don't use kies, but I remember having troubles with it, I think the only time I got it to work was with kies mini..
Using bionix 1.3.1 now, tried also installing stock jfd ecclaire
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Update: A representative of Samsung has informed me that this Facebook page is not an official Samsung account. Any U.S. Galaxy S news will be posted on the official Samsung Facebook page.
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/pho...icipation-of-android-2-3-for-galaxy-s-phones/
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Update: A representative of Samsung has informed me that this Facebook page is not an official Samsung account. Any U.S. Galaxy S news will be posted on the official Samsung Facebook page.
http://androidandme.com/2011/03/pho...icipation-of-android-2-3-for-galaxy-s-phones/
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BOOOM!
And there goes the dream..
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BOOOM!
And there goes the dream..
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lol.
someone close this thread.
So i9000 leak is out, hopefully Vibrant will be out soon.
http://www.androidgod.net/2011/03/2...rbread-rom-leaked-for-samsung-galaxy-s-i9000/
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well we can dream cant we?? cant wait
plus mini kies works well
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So i9000 leak is out, hopefully Vibrant will be out soon.
http://www.androidgod.net/2011/03/2...rbread-rom-leaked-for-samsung-galaxy-s-i9000/
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We got froyo 6 months after i9000, so if people are looking for a official GB, go look inside a toilet.
If you want a beta.... there MAY BE one.
but then again we already have 2 GB roms, and i'm pretty sure their the same.
Who gives a damn about official roms, im just happy this got out so our great developers will have something more solid and close for GB to our device than they do now.
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I know there are about 12,000 threads on Gingerbread, but I have yet to see anyone point out a link or a website or anything where we can go to confirm when Gingerbread has been OFFICIALLY released for the Epic 4G. The last I heard on these forums, it was last slated for the last week of July. It's now the last day of July, but I don't see any posts about an official release and how/where to get it. And I keep seeing the word "STOCK" in the mod rom forum, which is confusing...have they officially released Gingerbread for the Epic 4G yet? If not, is there a new date for it's release? Is there a website or specific thread that I can routinely check that will announce when it's out? I just saw a thread showing a leaked pic about the EOL for the Epic 4G in October of this year. Having just switched from the Tilt 2 on AT&T to the Epic 4G on Sprint 2 months ago, I'm not fond of seeing that my new phone will be out of date in another 2 months.
Can anyone clear up some of this confusion?
Thanks.
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there is no official release date. what you see in development are leaks.
No official release yet. Just leaks.
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That's just when they are going to stop manufacturing new ones. There's plenty of development left to come. Right now it looks like a possible September release for the official. These leaks come out and its almost as if we are Samsung's beta testers used to search out the glitches. The EG22 leak is actually pretty good. If you are big on GPS use, you may want to go with the EE03 modem. As far as an official release date, as soon as its known, you will se a thread here with a link to the source of the info almost immediately. Try out a few of the GB ROMs here. There are some very nice ones. If you want a Froyo ROM that has everything working, try SRF 1.2 or Urban Regeneration.
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When u see stock it means its stock. However all the gingerbread roms u see are all made from a gingerbread leak that was release. No official yet.
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i just want to thank you guys for not screaming at him for not searching or whatever. that crap gets so old.
schnowdapowda said:
i just want to thank you guys for not screaming at him for not searching or whatever. that crap gets so old.
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I agree schnowda. Not everybody lives on XDA. Some people just come on here to get info and goodies. There's no need to tear everyone a new a$$hole.
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i just want to thank you guys for not screaming at him for not searching or whatever. that crap gets so old.
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+1
But also, according to Tweets from Samfirmware, they have information of two builds to be released Mid and/or late August at least from what I've gathered, so we've leaks but we're close to a possible Official Release.
A while back didn't someone say that Samsung guaranteed us two more updates? I couldn't even attempt to find the thread it was mentioned in, can't remember any title it would belong to.
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But also, according to Tweets from Samfirmware, they have information of two builds to be released Mid and/or late August at least from what I've gathered, so we've leaks but we're close to a possible Official Release.
A while back didn't someone say that Samsung guaranteed us two more updates? I couldn't even attempt to find the thread it was mentioned in, can't remember any title it would belong to.
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Yup, I was told that by someone on G-Talk as well. I was told 2 more leaks by the end of August. That's why I said maybe September. I don't mind. Let them fix that modem. Let the GPS get fixed at least as good as Froyo and the stock browser and such. The leaks are good enough to keep people happy for now. I am patient. I still use Froyo as my daily.
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But also, according to Tweets from Samfirmware, they have information of two builds to be released Mid and/or late August at least from what I've gathered, so we've leaks but we're close to a possible Official Release.
A while back didn't someone say that Samsung guaranteed us two more updates? I couldn't even attempt to find the thread it was mentioned in, can't remember any title it would belong to.
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It was probably Korey aka Whosdaman.
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It was probably Korey aka Whosdaman.
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Samfirmware did confirm it in a tweet or post. They did make that promise. I wish I had the link to post, unfortunately I don't.
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Samfirmware did confirm it in a tweet or post. They did make that promise. I wish I had the link to post, unfortunately I don't.
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If that's the case on another test leak for us...they might as well release some source code for custom kernels and so we can resume work on our CM7 builds #fairtosay....you think they will?
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If that's the case on another test leak for us...they might as well release some source code for custom kernels and so we can resume work on our CM7 builds #fairtosay....you think they will?
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In an ideal world I'd like to think so, but for that they probably in the end would want more premium accounts and possibly couldn't deliver something as pivotal as that, I'd like to hope I'm proven wrong honestly.
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Its now october and we've yet to see any official gingerbread and sources, I've lost all respect to samsung and there dev team. They've had 2 chances for an ontime release and failed both. Our latest leaks are crap with reboots and other difficulties. Even after about a half a year a major company cannot put out and release a quality piece of gingerbread.
Flame all you want, call me a troll for all I care, I'm tired of this ****.
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Competely agree. I like the hardware, samsung software support is terrible compared to htc and moto. Disappointed that samsung does not want to continue to support their hardware. Can't say I am jumping up and down to buy another samsung product (except maybe nexus) when my contract is up in a few months.
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They release the best hardware then get lazy with the software, lol
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Does anyone even know why they're taking so long to get it to us
At this point I hope we don't get gingerbread. Much rather wait another month or two and get ICS. That would be the **** if at the Samsung/Google event on Oct 11th they announce ICS builds for all of their Galaxy S and Galaxy S II phones.
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Does anyone even know why they're taking so long to get it to us
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there samsung, all the reason you'll ever need.
Not a good enough reason. If you notice the dfferent versions of GB they've went through you'll understand that for every GB version 2.3, 2.3.2, 2.3.3, and 2.3.4; Samsung took a month to two months of testing and improving. GB been in the works since april/may starting with 2.3 and now we're at 2.3.4. And from the looks of it they're in the last month of testing and improving GB
Even though 2.3.7 is out apparently lol.
I however, could have misread.
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Its now october and we've yet to see any official gingerbread and sources, I've lost all respect to samsung and there dev team. They've had 2 chances for an ontime release and failed both. Our latest leaks are crap with reboots and other difficulties. Even after about a half a year a major company cannot put out and release a quality piece of gingerbread.
Flame all you want, call me a troll for all I care, I'm tired of this ****.
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It's October 3rd -- give it some time. It's obviously late, *****ing on a forum is not going to make it come quicker.
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Even though 2.3.7 is out apparently lol.
I however, could have misread.
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Only Google's baby get the latest and greatest. . . . . it sucks the epic is a foster child who adoptive parents only want a check for it's stay
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Even though 2.3.7 is out apparently lol.
I however, could have misread.
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All the builds 2.3.5 and up are Nexus only fixes that were released due to bugs I believe. We won't be needing those fixes, but HEY Samsung, we will be NEEDING ICS (yes, we know u lurk around this place!) :O
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Only Google's baby get the latest and greatest. . . . . it sucks the epic is a foster child who adoptive parents only want a check for it's stay
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And anyone with CM7 on their device. I have 2.3.7 on my mytouch 4g right now
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At this point I hope we don't get gingerbread. Much rather wait another month or two and get ICS. That would be the **** if at the Samsung/Google event on Oct 11th they announce ICS builds for all of their Galaxy S and Galaxy S II phones.
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HA! Then we would have it by October 2012!
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masaidjet said:
Only Google's baby get the latest and greatest. . . . . it sucks the epic is a foster child who adoptive parents only want a check for it's stay
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Because Google's baby don't have touchwiz crap and blocked access to Kies. Don't be down on the Epic when none of the US Galaxy S series have gotten GB yet.
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It's all really simple if you think about it.
Icecream sandwich isn't out yet. Therefore we don't have gingerbread. The general rule of thumb with these phones has been always being one release behind.
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If I wanted to be locked in to a manufacturer's software release schedule so I could ***** about delays on forums, I would have bought an iPhone. Instead, I bought an Android phone and have had Gingerbread for months.
I'm pretty happy with Froyo... ACS made it manageable.
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It's all really simple if you think about it.
Icecream sandwich isn't out yet. Therefore we don't have gingerbread. The general rule of thumb with these phones has been always being one release behind.
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I could actually believe this. If you think about it, it encourages people to upgrade. Then the ones they know aren't going anywhere yet get the update after they sell their latest and greatest
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dohturdima said:
I'm pretty happy with Froyo... ACS made it manageable.
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Manageable Lol. My first cell phone came in its own backpack that had to be unzippered to raise an antennae and I still couldn't make a call unless I was in the middle of a big open area without so much as a friggin tree within 100 feet, and your ACS Froyo Epic is manageable. Haha that's funny sh*t right there.
Sorry couldn't resist, Flame on.
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