Galaxy S phones across the pond are getting 2.3 right now. That's got to be a good sign.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/galaxy-s-gingerbread-update-now-rolling-out-across-europe/
Yeah, it gives us a base to see exactly how ridiculously long it takes Sprint to bloat it up. I like Sprint, been with them for years, but THEY were the ones mucking up the Froyo update, not Samsung. Granted, we still make out alright compared to Verizon/ATT customers who pay double and get WORSE service... I mean, the Fascinate is still on Eclair.
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Yeah, it gives us a base to see exactly how ridiculously long it takes Sprint to bloat it up. I like Sprint, been with them for years, but THEY were the ones mucking up the Froyo update, not Samsung. Granted, we still make out alright compared to Verizon/ATT customers who pay double and get WORSE service... I mean, the Fascinate is still on Eclair.
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It will take Samsung longer to port to our phones because of the CDMA radio. Carriers like AT&T have no excuse why their phones aren't getting updates within a week or two of the international rollout. Sprint does add a lot of crap like CIQ to the rom, which probably is what causes most of the delay for us though.
Still on Eclair?! Now that's an outrage
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Still on Eclair?! Now that's an outrage
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Yeh, and I'm not sure if the captivate owners have a real 2.2 either
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Yeh, and I'm not sure if the captivate owners have a real 2.2 either
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Both have 2.2 source code which is better than an official update.
No, no its really not. Source code is great, sure, but a real update is what the large majority actually care about. I personally enjoy playing with stock for a while before going custom rom to see the benefits of the devs labor. Plus, I like to use timing and update quality to make future purchase decisions. If I was on Verizon or ATT, I'm certain I would use the Galaxy S update fiasco as a reason to change carriers.
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Both have 2.2 source code which is better than an official update.
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How? Regular people can't use it and devs didn't take advantage when source dropped for the epic, so I don't know the advantages. Are they doing things with their sauce?
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The good news is that we've already seen Sprint's internal ED12 build being Gingerbread. So we'll see how long they **** around before actually releasing a build to the public.
Related
So i was reading this blog and bam i finally got slapped with a pretty cool rumor that got me a little excited so i wanted to share because of all the 2.2 questions maybe this will shed some light
http://an.droid-life.com/2010/12/06/samsung-phones-to-get-gingerbread-first/
Rumors are not post worthy.
adrynalyne said:
Rumors are not post worthy.
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Beat me to it. I'd highly doubt we see an official version of 2.3.
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Beat me to it. I'd highly doubt we see an official version of 2.3.
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I'm beginning to doubt I'll see 2.2 by the time my two-year contract runs out in 2012..
I heard from this guy that he saw Elvis at a truck stop yesterday. thought I'd let yall know
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Highly doubtful.
Epic just upgraded to 2.2, and Vibrant was scheduled last week but got postponed a week. If we were going to see 2.3 instead, then we'd have to wait months...first Samsung would release to International Galaxy S, then give it to all the carriers who then make modifications.
At this point all the carriers have been working on 2.2 so I doubt they would drop doing their work on this to skip over froyo.
i wouldnt be surpised if we skip all updates straight into 3.0 after all not the first time samsung ****ed us(all galaxy s will get 2.2 SHORTY after release).
At this point, I don't have too much hope for 2.2. I've seen in the past with other devices and OS that VZW skip a release or two because it failed their internal testing or something. I wouldn't be surprise if 2.2 was like that
I'm not worried about updates anymore...
I'm just waiting for my contact to end so u can leave Verizon.
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I'm not worried about updates anymore...
I'm just waiting for my contact to end so u can leave Verizon.
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Really miss t-mobile.
How about class action suite? ;-)
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How about class action suite? ;-)
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For what? The fact that I miss t-mobile?
iTz Nicholas72 said:
I'm not worried about updates anymore...
I'm just waiting for my contact to end so u can leave Verizon.
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Seems this is becoming a common sentiment. Go figure, right?
It seems as if Verizon is putting all of its eggs in the Motorola basket. They get updates/fixes galore.
I will be furious if the Fascinate goes the way of the Droid Eris (what I JUST upgraded from). Fortunatley, instead of burning an upgrae, I bought off of Craigslist.
maybe we will at least see a 2.3 leak one day!
We're going to get 2.3 eventually.
You guys can't blame Verizon for us not having froyo. If t mobile is so great why don't the vibrant have it? And sprints testing is poopoo, if you read about their new froyo, I don't think anyone is impressed
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Yeah I absolutely love the irony of everyone jumping ship from Verizon when the other devices haven't got Froyo either. When T-Mobile gets Froyo onto the Vibrant we shall see. The Epic is different hardware (different enough that Samsung probably shipped different drivers/RIL). This entire attitude of "verizon sucks" is just laughable at this point.
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No, I really do miss t-mobile and their 4g with gsm.
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No, I really do miss t-mobile and their 4g with gsm.
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T-Mo sucks and has the spottiest data coverage of any carrier I have ever used. I can remember driving down the highway, using my Nexus One in the car cradle, and having to wait for Google Maps to load up my current location because the buffered map areas couldn't keep up since the data connection kept going up and down. I could get across the city so quick on the highway that the network could not seemlessly handle me moving across the network so fast. Verizon has been a breath of fresh air compared to T-Mo, and the only thing I miss is the control I had with my Nexus One. That said, the screen on this phone is nice and is really the top of the class. We will get 2.2 soon enough, and with the proper foundation, I would think creating 2.3 ROMs will be an easy prospect.
Same old song and dance...
http://twitter.com/Samsungtweets
lol this is whats holding them up according to them "complexity/unique functionality"... i couldnt wait any longer so i rooted yesterday and installed nero v3..... im glad i did it.
I've been running the leaks and couldn't be happier. Why wouldn't they make all Galaxy S devices the same besides the obvious radios for different carriers. Why not just release one version of the phone so the complexity and unique functionality would not be an issue?
I am also putting some blame on the carriers for molesting the phones with their crap too.
Ok ....so all the blame going on between Samsung & T-Mobile is really all Samsung holding it up???
i think the carriers wanted different versions of the phone too. I guess to set themselves apart from each other....
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i think the carriers wanted different versions of the phone too. I guess to set themselves apart from each other....
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Well, keep the aesthetics different but leave the internal system the same (well minus the Epic since it has a hardware keyboard), they dug their own grave in this department.
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Ok ....so all the blame going on between Samsung & T-Mobile is really all Samsung holding it up???
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its really hasnt be samsung all along.. its still up to the carriers to approve the software.
haha, android 2.2 is so last year, 2.3 should be the one they are worried about
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haha, android 2.2 is so last year, 2.3 should be the one they are worried about
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Knowing Samsung, lets not get ahead of our selves..low expectations are key to happiness here.
At the rate sammy is going we will all be due for a phone upgrade before we even see 2.3 but knowing them they won't support it cause they want you to buy the nexus s.
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Haha, yall hoping to see a Vibrant running 2.3 in your hand better forget Sammy & hope that Gbread proof morphs into a daily driver instead
Nero v3 + XDA app = possimpostability
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At the rate sammy is going we will all be due for a phone upgrade before we even see 2.3 but knowing them they won't support it cause they want you to buy the nexus s.
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i wouldnt say samsung wants consumers the nexus s.... IMO i dont think samsung even cares abt nexus s sales as subsidies and carrier variety is what really average consumers care about. plus samsung makes a bunch of money doing other things than just smart phone.
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its really hasnt be samsung all along.. its still up to the carriers to approve the software.
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Yeah, the software provided by Samsung. If Samsung's build is buggy, the carrier obviously can't approve it.
I don't know why people keep blaming the carriers. While they may insist on certain programs or functionality, the software is ultimately Samsung's responsibility.
Froyo is starting to sound like "Wolf" to me.
No way to blame the carriers here. If it was there fault, how do you explain that all other similar class phones have had froyo for 3-4 months already? How'd those all get approved?
It's all on samsung here.
They have been saying next week for over six months.....their top selling device has become less of a priority that's all there is to it.
Vibrant + Axura 2.2.5.5 + SuperIO Kernel + JL1 Modem
You guys are getting that the froyo has to be an update and not a flash. There can't be any mistakes.
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You guys are getting that the froyo has to be an update and not a flash. There can't be any mistakes.
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And those are different how...?
-bZj
tornado76 said:
I've been running the leaks and couldn't be happier. Why wouldn't they make all Galaxy S devices the same besides the obvious radios for different carriers. Why not just release one version of the phone so the complexity and unique functionality would not be an issue?
I am also putting some blame on the carriers for molesting the phones with their crap too.
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Speaking of not all being the same.. I have gotten at least seven people to also buy Galaxy phones, but most are with Verizon or AT&T. This past Friday it really sucked that my Verizon friends were able to take lots of pictures inside of the dueling piano bar because of the flash and I couldn't do ****.
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Speaking of not all being the same.. I have gotten at least seven people to also buy Galaxy phones, but most are with Verizon or AT&T. This past Friday it really sucked that my Verizon friends were able to take lots of pictures inside of the dueling piano bar because of the flash and I couldn't do ****.
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If a flash was important to you then why did you knowingly buy a phone that didn't have one? You can't blame TMO or Samsung for a poor purchase decision.
Look at this everyone. Does this mean we are close to our official froyo?
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376045,00.asp
Edit: T-mobile even gives a reason why it took so long.
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Unlikely...
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Look at this everyone. Does this mean we are close to our official froyo?
http://mobile.pcmag.com/device2/art.../www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376045,00.asp
Edit: T-mobile even gives a reason why it took so long.
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I still think it won't be until February/March. Kinda ironic that t-mo is the first to release the update since they were the ones that came under fire for allegedly holding up 2.2 until the fascinate 4G came out.. hmmm..
You never know. Sprint likes to be "the first" at things. Maybe this will put pressure on them to roll out froyo sooner then later as well.
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Believe it when I see it.
I also saw a unicorn today...
Sprint should change their name to Snorlax... it would be more fitting....
Epic is as Epic does
I can promise you that we won't get 2.2 before the Captivate. Past that, I have no idea. It seems the problem is really getting the CDMA differences worked out. That said, I'd hate to be a Continuum user right now.
Probably only because of the backlash about Samsung holding it in order to sell more Vibrant 4Gs.
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Definitly the outside pressure caused this
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from what i seen we should have froyo within a week..
adamw1101 said:
Definitly the outside pressure caused this
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What is the outside pressure on Sprint?
jbadboy2007 said:
from what i seen we should have froyo within a week..
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From what I've seen, I'm not going to hold my breath. No offense, of course.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/20/samsung-vibrant-will-get-froyo-tomorrow-says-t-mobile-cmo/
We're not totally sure, but we imagine that T-Mobile's rivals aren't sitting still -- we'll probably hear some fascinating, captivating and totally epic news about Froyo any minute now.
We are getting froyo very soon.
Vibrant scheduled for tommorow, and Mesmerize(U.S. cellular) is scheduled for early february. So who knows when e get it.
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with this source code ppl wont need carriers to update we can just get it from here xda dev work 9999999999999999999999 billlion times faster then any carriers
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What is the outside pressure on Sprint?
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Anyone here file a class action? I actually believe that Brodman guy when he said that they just weren't aware that timely updates are very important to users. Google has introduced a new paradigm with their frequent OS updates, and I don't think the carriers have really considered updates a top priority. One thing is for certain, flood their Facebook pages and Twitter accts. I'm pretty certain that anytime anything regarding any topic is posted anywhere regarding T-Mo, a flood of Vibrant users respond with calls for the Froyo update.
And I guess the best thing is if you can get something written up in one of the big tech media sites. The carrier execs may not be reading XDA, but they sure start running for the mikes when they get a black eye in Engadget or TechCrunch.
Sprint has tweeted that the Epic will get Froyo ASAP, but this isn't new . I'm still going to hope that T-mobile will pressure Sprint to roll out Froyo.
http://mobile.twitter.com/sprint
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ASAP huh? That could be tomorrow or a year from now depending on whenever they feel it's "possible".
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If it really is true, based on what the Tmo CMO stated, that the hold up is caused by the carriers needing to add whatever software they think we need. Well, that's just ridiculous. They should just stop messing with apps not everyone wants on their phones and just release Froyo or whatever is in the pipelines. Perhaps we should start a campaign to get manufacturers and carriers to move closer putting stock android on their phones. Just a thought.
Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers
FYI #2, I figured some of ya might be very interested to hear this!
Got me interested!
I'll believe it when I see it.
I call bull ****
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Wow. Don't believe that. Were still trying to get another froyo coming on the 21st.
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Willieumm said:
I'll believe it when I see it.
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this
/10 char
I have trouble believing... but maybe someone in the Samsung front office actually got a clue...
Add in the "rumor" of a Samsung Nexus S 4G being announced by Sprint at CTIA....
Heck, would be nice to be ahead for a change....
But I'm not gonna hold my breath! ROFL!
More than one person here has said any official port of GB to the Epic would be far less work than Froyo has been for Sammy and Sprint. But I've always said that's being more hopeful than history warrants us to be. I'll be glad to just get a good Froyo on here without worries.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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While I have my doubts about Sprint/Samsung actually supporting our phones with OS updates past 2.2; the possibility of the Nexus coming to Sprint and the speed at which they have (supposedly) fixed bugs and moved to release another Froyo update to us has me optimistic this may have some truth to it.
Maybe samsung does care after all
Negativity in 3.....2......1............
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I call bull ****
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This belongs in the rumour thread...
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If this happens it could go a long way to make me rethink my never buying another samsung and going back to HTC. Samsung had great hardware. I love it, but I can't deal with this software delay again. If I see evidence I won't have to wait with samsung then I would be welling to give another shot. They need to prove it.
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I suspect much would be forgiven if Sammy actually accomplished this, it went relatively smoothly, defects were minimal, and the change persisted in the future.
I know I'd forgive and forget. As I posted in another thread awhile back, I'm not vindictive, and it makes no sense to hold a grudge against a company... I only punish myself, not them.
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I always have believed that if a couple of dev's on this site can pump out a stable rom in a short amount of time WHILE having other jobs and doing this in their free time, there is no reason for any company that PAYS people to do the same job to take as long as these companies do.
As neat as it sounds to have Sprint and Samsung push out the first 2.3 updates in the US, I will not be holding my breath what so ever. I'll stick with custom roms and just Odin back if I have any trouble.
With that said, it'll be nice to see Samsung release this, but then again I just don't care. I love my phone regardless
Jus be patient ppl...it will come when it comes....
IF it comes that is.
Ok... Flame me if you want to, but I believe it.
You: Omg! No! Sammy will nevurrrr do that!
Yes, they would. They dont want to lose customers and more importantly, if the nexus s 4g rumors are true, it will most likely have the same hardware as the epic because the epic 4g radios arent broken, so they dont need to fix them, and even if they are, samsumg used some of the horrible moment files for us. Anyways, with a nexus s 4g, samsung will have a 2.3.x device with epic hardware, and since they already have the drivers from it, the epic 4g will get 2.3 quick like how the i9000 has official 2.3, even if we dont get it quick, we (the xda community) can get the nexus s 4g software running on the epic really quick.
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The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
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Technically, this is a Gingerbread rumor. The other thread is for Froyo rumors.
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The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
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Totally agree. Samsung is slow, sprint is just as slow if not worse. I started out with blackberry(bowing my head in shame) and they were horrible with them. Rim atleast understood that so they let out leaks on a fairly regular basis for the devs to play with. Now with android, first the moment and now with the epic, sprint is terrible again. And whats even worse with both of them, and where they can stop alot negativity from even starting is if they both just comminicate more with the users. I feel if we had more info, especially on promised updates, it is an easier pill to swallow then being left totally in the dark.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.
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You need to ***** at sprint HTC is waiting for sprint to let them update that is what HTC said its up to Sprint so everyone needs to flood Sprint with calls emails and demand update.
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http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/01/ota-gingerbread-2-3-update-now-available-for-droid-x/
Motorola and Verizon have released the Gingerbread 2.3 OTA for their phones while HTC is still sitting on it.
So much for HTC being the leader int he cell phone game. Yeah they make better phones but whats the point if the competition is updating and providing faster service.
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Well bub, thats the price of a locked/signed bootloader & Moto Blek...
This is why we have XDA my friend.
There's also a difference from Eclair to Froyo from Froyo to Gingerbread.
Froyo actually offered something new from Eclair, Gingerbread does have some benefits but mostly nothing groundbreaking. The X and the Evo were updated to Froyo in about the same time frame of their release.
Didn't the Droid X2 already launch though?
Guess it makes sense, if that is true, that they'd start pushing the update. Isn't that the idea with the Evo? Wait for the successor to drop, then update the past device?
Either way, it'll be here soon enough.
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You need to ***** at sprint HTC is waiting for sprint to let them update that is what HTC said its up to Sprint so everyone needs to flood Sprint with calls emails and demand update.
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Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.
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Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.
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And you know this to be fact or purely speculating?
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And you know this to be fact or purely speculating?
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Think about it, its a marketing ploy. Want GB on sprint, buy the Evo 3d, then after they start selling it, oh by the way, the rest of you guys already signed up can get your update now. If they were to update our phones, what incentive would we have to get the 3d since we already would have GB??
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what incentive would we have to get the 3d since we already would have GB??
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I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?
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I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?
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Sure, for those of us who are into that, but for the casual user they dont even know about better hardware. They just know GB is the latest software and thats all they want.
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Sure, for those of us who are into that, but for the casual user they dont even know about better hardware. They just know GB is the latest software and thats all they want.
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I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.
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I dunno. A superior piece of hardware?
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To the average consumer? No.
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To the average consumer? No.
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LOL. Let me call my wife and ask her what she thinks of Gingerbread. I'll assume she'll have no idea what I'm talking about and maybe bring up cookies.
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I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.
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My brother knows about a better phone but he Hung onto his G1 till a great deal came, and it did with t-mobile free mt4g....
So some won't care of better hardware or even software....
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I'd say it's the other way around. The casual user would want a better phone over OS tweaks that they may not even understand.
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I agree. I don't think HTC makes better phones btw, motorola kills them in battery life, and I prefer phones made of metal.
I also would rather believe that people in general would want the newest phone over the newest software update. The "average consumer" probably has no idea what the latest iteration of Android is or how to even check for the ota for it lol.
Is it really that big of a deal? The majority of us have rooted phones running custom ROMs anyway. There are handfuls of GB ROMs, both Sense and AOSP. We've had GB on AOSP ROMs (CM) for months now, while the Droid X didn't get GB ROMs until recently.
I know sometimes it's just to ***** and complain about something for the sake of *****ing and complaining, but seriously, is there any need to say that HTC isn't the "leader of the cell phone game" anymore just because of one simple software update?
Also,
Unlocked bootloader >>>>>>> OTA GB update
Holy speculation based thread we have here batman!
Sprint "holding back updates to all phones" comments are silly.
Also, who cares? With HTC phones I can run Cyanogen and have had Gingerbread for what three months now?
With Motorola I can say I have root...which is meaningless.
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Pretty much, sprint isn't letting ANY of their phones offically get GB until they release the 3D with GB on it.
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Money hungry corporate whores
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mattykinsx said:
Holy speculation based thread we have here batman!
Sprint "holding back updates to all phones" comments are silly.
Also, who cares? With HTC phones I can run Cyanogen and have had Gingerbread for what three months now?
With Motorola I can say I have root...which is meaningless.
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Lol I wrote HTC they said its up to Sprint .