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Froyo In November!!

http://engadget.com/2010/10/21/samsung-comes-clean-with-galaxy-s-froyo-upgrade-dates-all-carri/
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Then how long until sprint releases it? That's what I would like to know. Lol
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As ususal, Engadget gets it wrong. They can't even read a press release, and never bothered to pick up the phone and call Samsung. This announcement was datelined from London and about the UK, which is clear from its context.
See also this thread in Vibrant forum.
p.s. As recently as a few minutes ago, Samsung's Galaxy S support site for the U.S. on Twitter was saying there is not ETA for Froyo on this side of the pond at all.
Deployment for the Epic is even more complicated than the rollout for the GSM-based variants in the U.S. If the Epic gets Froyo in November, I will be most pleasantly surprised.

one way or another it seems like typical samsung taking forever to release an update

I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!

infamousjax said:
I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!
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Typical sprint. Its like a perfect storm of two companies that look at support only as an expense, not as retaining future customers.

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I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!
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The Samsung Twitter sites for the United States, debunking the the speculation based on the U.K. news, reiterate what Samsung has said all along: Froyo will be deployed by U.S. carriers sometime this year:
RT @SamsungMobileUS Re: Froyo release in November statement came from SamsungUK. Froyo for US SGS will be avail this year http://ow.ly/2Xce8
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Anyone who expected something sooner has been misinformed, or just thinking wishfully. Many examples of both errors have populated comments in the various forums for weeks or months.

I hope they put the Sprint ID or whatever it is on it so I can do away with TW all together. Looked at the Samsung Transform review and was jealous that there was no TW.
I was hoping the delay was due to Sprint ID

In other words.....maybe on the next phone.

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I just got word from my sprint connect to not expect froyo until mid-late december... he said it may be well into january before sprint pushes it out. let's hope he's wrong!
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I'm inclined to believe this since Rogers in Canada is saying their version of the Captivate will get Froyo in 2011. If Froyo was ready in 2010, everywhere else in the world, why would Rogers tell their customers to expect it in 2011?

Samsung is a joke when it comes to software updates...almost on par with htc gimping allof there products
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Like I said in previous threads, sprint will recieve it last, because of 4g kernel modifications.

Honestly id rather them skip froyo and work on gingerbread.
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mykenyc said:
Honestly id rather them skip froyo and work on gingerbread.
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What? You want to wait until 2012 to get a new OS update?

What does 2.2 offer that you can't have on 2.1? I just don't see what the big deal is anyways. Is everyone that unsatisfied with their phone that they are getting bent out of shape about 2.2? This is Sprint and Samsung we are talking about right? I fully expect it to be here in January or February. In the mean time, I will enjoy my Epic with 2.1 Which is still better than the Evo on 2.2, imho.

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What does 2.2 offer that you can't have on 2.1? I just don't see what the big deal is anyways. Is everyone that unsatisfied with their phone that they are getting bent out of shape about 2.2? This is Sprint and Samsung we are talking about right? I fully expect it to be here in January or February. In the mean time, I will enjoy my Epic with 2.1 Which is still better than the Evo on 2.2, imho.
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Its faster, and "the latest and greatest" has support for full flash, not just flash lite...theres a few others.

scriz said:
Its faster, and "the latest and greatest" has support for full flash, not just flash lite...theres a few others.
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I heard flash sucked with 2.2 but that's just me. Granted it's nice to have and it's something the I-suck doesn't have so that's always a plus.
Phone is plenty fast for me but I don't do anything extensive on it. Even when it drops I'll probably still wait a while to see if it's even worth it. Reading the Evo forums, it sounded like it was more trouble than it was worth and broke more things than fixed.

blazinazn said:
I heard flash sucked with 2.2 but that's just me. Granted it's nice to have and it's something the I-suck doesn't have so that's always a plus.
Phone is plenty fast for me but I don't do anything extensive on it. Even when it drops I'll probably still wait a while to see if it's even worth it. Reading the Evo forums, it sounded like it was more trouble than it was worth and broke more things than fixed.
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THANK YOU!

rquinn19 said:
I hope they put the Sprint ID or whatever it is on it so I can do away with TW all together. Looked at the Samsung Transform review and was jealous that there was no TW.
I was hoping the delay was due to Sprint ID
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You want to exchange one piece of bloat for another piece?
Why not just ship it with stock Android (and more than 3 screens) and then allow us to customize our devices as we see fit?

blazinazn said:
I heard flash sucked with 2.2 but that's just me. Granted it's nice to have and it's something the I-suck doesn't have so that's always a plus.
Phone is plenty fast for me but I don't do anything extensive on it. Even when it drops I'll probably still wait a while to see if it's even worth it. Reading the Evo forums, it sounded like it was more trouble than it was worth and broke more things than fixed.
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Thats because its on a Evo lol
Yeah I went to the Sprint store when I went and bought my case for my Epic and messed around with an Evo..be it a display, and they had a screen protector on it, the screened looked REALLY grainy, and it was very very slow. I'm guessing it hadn't been restarted in awhile and had every app open on it running in the background. I checked it and sure enough it was running on 2.2.

Samsung Galaxy S phone may skip 2.2 and jump to 2.3 gingerbread

So i was reading this blog and bam i finally got slapped with a pretty cool rumor that got me a little excited so i wanted to share because of all the 2.2 questions maybe this will shed some light
http://an.droid-life.com/2010/12/06/samsung-phones-to-get-gingerbread-first/

Rumors are not post worthy.

adrynalyne said:
Rumors are not post worthy.
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Beat me to it. I'd highly doubt we see an official version of 2.3.

scriz said:
Beat me to it. I'd highly doubt we see an official version of 2.3.
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I'm beginning to doubt I'll see 2.2 by the time my two-year contract runs out in 2012..

I heard from this guy that he saw Elvis at a truck stop yesterday. thought I'd let yall know
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Highly doubtful.
Epic just upgraded to 2.2, and Vibrant was scheduled last week but got postponed a week. If we were going to see 2.3 instead, then we'd have to wait months...first Samsung would release to International Galaxy S, then give it to all the carriers who then make modifications.
At this point all the carriers have been working on 2.2 so I doubt they would drop doing their work on this to skip over froyo.

i wouldnt be surpised if we skip all updates straight into 3.0 after all not the first time samsung ****ed us(all galaxy s will get 2.2 SHORTY after release).

At this point, I don't have too much hope for 2.2. I've seen in the past with other devices and OS that VZW skip a release or two because it failed their internal testing or something. I wouldn't be surprise if 2.2 was like that

I'm not worried about updates anymore...
I'm just waiting for my contact to end so u can leave Verizon.
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iTz Nicholas72 said:
I'm not worried about updates anymore...
I'm just waiting for my contact to end so u can leave Verizon.
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Really miss t-mobile.

How about class action suite? ;-)

CNemo7539 said:
How about class action suite? ;-)
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For what? The fact that I miss t-mobile?

iTz Nicholas72 said:
I'm not worried about updates anymore...
I'm just waiting for my contact to end so u can leave Verizon.
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Seems this is becoming a common sentiment. Go figure, right?

It seems as if Verizon is putting all of its eggs in the Motorola basket. They get updates/fixes galore.
I will be furious if the Fascinate goes the way of the Droid Eris (what I JUST upgraded from). Fortunatley, instead of burning an upgrae, I bought off of Craigslist.

maybe we will at least see a 2.3 leak one day!

We're going to get 2.3 eventually.

You guys can't blame Verizon for us not having froyo. If t mobile is so great why don't the vibrant have it? And sprints testing is poopoo, if you read about their new froyo, I don't think anyone is impressed
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Yeah I absolutely love the irony of everyone jumping ship from Verizon when the other devices haven't got Froyo either. When T-Mobile gets Froyo onto the Vibrant we shall see. The Epic is different hardware (different enough that Samsung probably shipped different drivers/RIL). This entire attitude of "verizon sucks" is just laughable at this point.
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No, I really do miss t-mobile and their 4g with gsm.

RacerXFD said:
No, I really do miss t-mobile and their 4g with gsm.
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T-Mo sucks and has the spottiest data coverage of any carrier I have ever used. I can remember driving down the highway, using my Nexus One in the car cradle, and having to wait for Google Maps to load up my current location because the buffered map areas couldn't keep up since the data connection kept going up and down. I could get across the city so quick on the highway that the network could not seemlessly handle me moving across the network so fast. Verizon has been a breath of fresh air compared to T-Mo, and the only thing I miss is the control I had with my Nexus One. That said, the screen on this phone is nice and is really the top of the class. We will get 2.2 soon enough, and with the proper foundation, I would think creating 2.3 ROMs will be an easy prospect.

Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers

Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers
FYI #2, I figured some of ya might be very interested to hear this!

Got me interested!

I'll believe it when I see it.

I call bull ****
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Wow. Don't believe that. Were still trying to get another froyo coming on the 21st.
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Willieumm said:
I'll believe it when I see it.
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this
/10 char

I have trouble believing... but maybe someone in the Samsung front office actually got a clue...
Add in the "rumor" of a Samsung Nexus S 4G being announced by Sprint at CTIA....
Heck, would be nice to be ahead for a change....
But I'm not gonna hold my breath! ROFL!

More than one person here has said any official port of GB to the Epic would be far less work than Froyo has been for Sammy and Sprint. But I've always said that's being more hopeful than history warrants us to be. I'll be glad to just get a good Froyo on here without worries.

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I'll believe it when I see it.
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While I have my doubts about Sprint/Samsung actually supporting our phones with OS updates past 2.2; the possibility of the Nexus coming to Sprint and the speed at which they have (supposedly) fixed bugs and moved to release another Froyo update to us has me optimistic this may have some truth to it.

Maybe samsung does care after all

Negativity in 3.....2......1............
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I call bull ****
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This belongs in the rumour thread...
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If this happens it could go a long way to make me rethink my never buying another samsung and going back to HTC. Samsung had great hardware. I love it, but I can't deal with this software delay again. If I see evidence I won't have to wait with samsung then I would be welling to give another shot. They need to prove it.
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I suspect much would be forgiven if Sammy actually accomplished this, it went relatively smoothly, defects were minimal, and the change persisted in the future.
I know I'd forgive and forget. As I posted in another thread awhile back, I'm not vindictive, and it makes no sense to hold a grudge against a company... I only punish myself, not them.
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I always have believed that if a couple of dev's on this site can pump out a stable rom in a short amount of time WHILE having other jobs and doing this in their free time, there is no reason for any company that PAYS people to do the same job to take as long as these companies do.
As neat as it sounds to have Sprint and Samsung push out the first 2.3 updates in the US, I will not be holding my breath what so ever. I'll stick with custom roms and just Odin back if I have any trouble.
With that said, it'll be nice to see Samsung release this, but then again I just don't care. I love my phone regardless

Jus be patient ppl...it will come when it comes....
IF it comes that is.

Ok... Flame me if you want to, but I believe it.
You: Omg! No! Sammy will nevurrrr do that!
Yes, they would. They dont want to lose customers and more importantly, if the nexus s 4g rumors are true, it will most likely have the same hardware as the epic because the epic 4g radios arent broken, so they dont need to fix them, and even if they are, samsumg used some of the horrible moment files for us. Anyways, with a nexus s 4g, samsung will have a 2.3.x device with epic hardware, and since they already have the drivers from it, the epic 4g will get 2.3 quick like how the i9000 has official 2.3, even if we dont get it quick, we (the xda community) can get the nexus s 4g software running on the epic really quick.
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The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.

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This belongs in the rumour thread...
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Technically, this is a Gingerbread rumor. The other thread is for Froyo rumors.
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RSPC said:
The Headline says:
"Samsung Mobile could offer the first Gingerbread updates to US carriers"
I didn't see it say much about the carriers getting it out to any of us.
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Totally agree. Samsung is slow, sprint is just as slow if not worse. I started out with blackberry(bowing my head in shame) and they were horrible with them. Rim atleast understood that so they let out leaks on a fairly regular basis for the devs to play with. Now with android, first the moment and now with the epic, sprint is terrible again. And whats even worse with both of them, and where they can stop alot negativity from even starting is if they both just comminicate more with the users. I feel if we had more info, especially on promised updates, it is an easier pill to swallow then being left totally in the dark.
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Gingerbread rolling out in Europe

Galaxy S phones across the pond are getting 2.3 right now. That's got to be a good sign.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/16/galaxy-s-gingerbread-update-now-rolling-out-across-europe/

Yeah, it gives us a base to see exactly how ridiculously long it takes Sprint to bloat it up. I like Sprint, been with them for years, but THEY were the ones mucking up the Froyo update, not Samsung. Granted, we still make out alright compared to Verizon/ATT customers who pay double and get WORSE service... I mean, the Fascinate is still on Eclair.
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Yeah, it gives us a base to see exactly how ridiculously long it takes Sprint to bloat it up. I like Sprint, been with them for years, but THEY were the ones mucking up the Froyo update, not Samsung. Granted, we still make out alright compared to Verizon/ATT customers who pay double and get WORSE service... I mean, the Fascinate is still on Eclair.
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It will take Samsung longer to port to our phones because of the CDMA radio. Carriers like AT&T have no excuse why their phones aren't getting updates within a week or two of the international rollout. Sprint does add a lot of crap like CIQ to the rom, which probably is what causes most of the delay for us though.

Still on Eclair?! Now that's an outrage

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Still on Eclair?! Now that's an outrage
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Yeh, and I'm not sure if the captivate owners have a real 2.2 either

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Yeh, and I'm not sure if the captivate owners have a real 2.2 either
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Both have 2.2 source code which is better than an official update.

No, no its really not. Source code is great, sure, but a real update is what the large majority actually care about. I personally enjoy playing with stock for a while before going custom rom to see the benefits of the devs labor. Plus, I like to use timing and update quality to make future purchase decisions. If I was on Verizon or ATT, I'm certain I would use the Galaxy S update fiasco as a reason to change carriers.
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Both have 2.2 source code which is better than an official update.
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How? Regular people can't use it and devs didn't take advantage when source dropped for the epic, so I don't know the advantages. Are they doing things with their sauce?
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The good news is that we've already seen Sprint's internal ED12 build being Gingerbread. So we'll see how long they **** around before actually releasing a build to the public.

Its official, gingerbread coming soon!!!

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/official-samsung-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-getting-gingerbread-up/
the part that applies to us in that article is that the north american versions will get gingerbread after mid-may update for europe

dppatel said:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/16/official-samsung-galaxy-s-and-galaxy-tab-getting-gingerbread-up/
the part that applies to us in that article is that the north american versions will get gingerbread after mid-may update for europe
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It's now 16th of May! How much more middle of May can you get?
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xHoLyx said:
It's now 16th of May! How much more middle of May can you get?
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LOL at that.
Samsung's gonna take a while, and the 'official' news hasn't really worked out in the past either.

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LOL at that.
Samsung's gonna take a while, and the 'official' news hasn't really worked out in the past either.
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True. It might even take couple weeks or months, but always good to hear some news.
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The OP didn't say we'll get Gingerbread in mid-May, he said Europe will get it in mid-May and we'll get it after them. That doesn't mean we'll get it in mid-May, or May at all.
Engadget phrased it better, though:
"The company has this morning released word that it intends to update its entire Galaxy S family line, starting with models in the UK and Nordic countries from the middle of this month. The rest of the globe, including North America, will follow suit "according to the regional plan."
Obviously, we have no idea what the "regional plan" is -- so there's no saying when we or any of the US carriers will actually see Gingerbread.

not to mention the last official word we had on froyo said november... got it in april...

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It's now 16th of May! How much more middle of May can you get?
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must have been a typo, them ment the middle of may next yr

With us being cdma we will most likely be the very last to get it
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id assume it wouldnt come any earlier than late Fall for this phone...by which time many of us will have long jumped ship

CDMA plus Bing plus hardware differences. This'll be a fun wait.

As far as I remember, the samsung dev team tried to unify the devices under froyo a lot more than they were under eclair. For eclair they had a team for each phone, then for froyo they had one tam for all phones. I can't remember where I read it, but maybe that fact will speed updates.
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You also have to take into account that most of the Galaxy S lineup consists of the i9000 series (GSM). Once Europe is updated, the i9000 series on AT&T will probably be next.
There hasn't been any word for the i500 timeline yet.

Gotta remember, the Galaxy S is the i9000 we just have a variant. It would be nice if we got it on the i500 but I seriously doubt it, especially since it just said galaxy s not the galaxy s line. Which means fascinate, epic, vibrant and captivate were not mentioned in the press release. In fact they went out of their way to even mention specific models. "GALAXY Ace/Gio/Fit/mini"
I guess I'm being pessimistic seeing how we were treated over Android 2.2

Well I read in the article on android central it said Galaxy S line, where the press release from Samsung said galaxy s.
Another thing to remember is its being released by Samsung, we will still have to wait for VZW to get there hands on it, and bloat the hell out of it, before they release it. And im sure this is on the back burner for them at this point so I dont see an ota being pushed out anytime soon.
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Well I read in the article on android central it said Galaxy S line, where the press release from Samsung said galaxy s.
Another thing to remember is its being released by Samsung, we will still have to wait for VZW to get there hands on it, and bloat the hell out of it, before they release it. And im sure this is on the back burner for them at this point so I dont see an ota being pushed out anytime soon.
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Samsung puts everything together and sends it to Verizon. AFAIK, Verizon does nothing with putting the ROM itself together, just final testing.

this is XDA! once the Devs get their hands on a leak we will have a few roms before any official 2.3 comes out. Much like most of us had 2.2 WELL before the official came out!

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Samsung puts everything together and sends it to Verizon. AFAIK, Verizon does nothing with putting the ROM itself together, just final testing.
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While that may be true, since most of the US Galaxy S variants have some form of bloatware, wouldn't that mean carriers tell Samsung what extras to add before it's finished?
Bow chika wah wah

I highly doubt Verizon updates the Fascinate to Gingerbread. If they do, I'm going to say, early 2012 if they decide we are worth it.

Hey some news is better than no news!

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I highly doubt Verizon updates the Fascinate to Gingerbread. If they do, I'm going to say, early 2012 if they decide we are worth it.
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Maybe I am wrong, but verizon can dictate software under contract, but I don't think they can stop samsung from updating their products. If samsung programs it I think they would be none to happy if verizon refused to push the update.
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