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So I've been messing around with different roms and kernels for the past few weeks and finally settled on CM6 6.1.1, and the snap 7.6 bfs kernel, for stability and speed. I turned on the turbo mode with snap, OC'd to 1152mhz (freezes at 1192), killed all apps, and ran quadrant.
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I know thats pretty good, my scores average from 2100-2350, but I'm looking to make it even quicker. What can I do?
Thanks!
Move to gingerbread.
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sultan.of.swing said:
Move to gingerbread.
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Which ROM and which kernel?
weehooherod said:
Don't use Snap 7.6 on CM6.1.1, just use the stock kernel. The new kernel built in with CM6.1.1 is much better, Snap 7.6 is pretty old.
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I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC
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Which ROM and which kernel?
I had 6.1.2 flashed, but snap wouldn't work on it and I was only benching around 1400 with the stock kernel.. Even with an OC
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Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.
A benchmark does not actually show how fast your phone is....
Cyanogen himself stated this.
quadrant scores =/= to your phone being 'fast'.
But if you care about synthetic benchmarks then you could trick your file system into giving you quadrant scores in the 3000+ range.
by the way thanks for posting this in the relevant subsection of the evo forum dedicated to development this will absolutely further the development of android.
Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
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Lol okay then guys, so which gingerbread ROM and which kernel for the best efficiency and speed?
david279 said:
Benchmark scores don't matter. I don't even check them anymore. Wether I get a 1400 or 2200 its still gonna dial a number at the same speed. Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.
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I couldn't agree more, how instant can a phone get? Theres a point where speed wont be relevant anymore and its pretty damn close to it already. In my eyes efficiency is the future, doing more with less is something im looking forward to.
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Yeah man, don't worry about benches. If you want to brag about how high it is just PhotoShop it. It's all about smoothness and real world performance/battery life for me. Just find what setup works best on your phone
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**** man I'm sorry I'm new to this forum.
Mods: Please move to the correct section.
Thread moved to General.
Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.
Oddly enough, I'd rather have the transition animations that come with some of the custom ROMs, even if they take longer. They provide a much more "fluid" experience. I don't like the jarring, speed-driven, animation-free transitions that come with stock ROMs, because they lack polish. As soon as I saw videos of those animations, I was in love. LOL. Seriously though, lag and lack of animations (which consequently actually help hide lag and load times) are the two things I see holding back the polish of Android. Just as an example (not trying start a flame war here, people), look at the animation when going from portrait to landscape in iOS. Then look at Android's lack thereof. THAT is what Android needs-to actually FEEL faster, not necessarily BE faster. So try something like that if you want the phone to feel more fluid instead of just achieving raw benchmark speed. Again, just my opinion (kind of sad that I feel the need to put that disclaimer in every post lately).
Award Tour said:
Also keep in mind that the EVO's Snapdragon CPU was never a problem, it's still competitive even with the newer CPUs (with the exception of the upcoming A9's both single and especially dual core). Most of the "hacks" that raise the Quandrant score over 2000 are just that, hacks. They manipulate the other tests (non-CPU specific ones) to raise the score and make you think that you've just achieved some kind of new level of performance when in fact you'll see pretty much no difference.
Over clocking will help a little but like I said the problem isn't the CPU; a lot of the lag you may see on the EVO is because of the GPU. Nobody has figured out out how to overclock the GPU so over clocking the CPU will make no difference with the GPU. There have been some improvements in the drivers and if you're running CM or MIUI, you already have them. Gingerbread slightly improves some of the core graphics in Android so you'll see a boost over pre-Gingerbread Android but I think what we should all be waiting on is for the new Adreno 200 GPU drivers that Google will release when the OTA 2.3 update for the N1 drops. It wont magically make our EVO's into Nexus S' or anything but I wouldn't be surprised to see a noticeable boost in performance.
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that is interesting.. thanks for the info.
I hope it does open some more performance and maybe a way to overclock the GPU
Im not playing call of duty on my phone or anything. I want efficiency.[/QUOTE said:
Lmao
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Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
bluntly, if you dont see the point of it then you don't need it.
For others, sometimes you run alot of stuff in the background and still want to be able to have your main app perform at its best level.
There is also the minute tweaking of speed and snappiness of the interface. The idea of instant reaction when you open your message app, or your email, or anything.
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Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
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Heavy multitasking
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flash video seems pretty laggy to me at 800...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Best link ever! I hope i can remember it long enough to use it sometime.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Fair question IMHO.
I don't see the difference when overclocking, or rather I don't feel it. Software does make a difference, but not the extra 200-500Mhz. I do feel however the battery drain
It always makes me laugh when somebody asks a legitimate question and you get silly responses like the above 2. It's as if these people feel threatened and have to justify that they are more knowledgeable than the op. The facts of the matter are most of the tweaks, mods and alterations are wholly unnecessary in the real world.
If you don't feel like it makes it better then you don't have to use it. I use it because I feel it makes everything just a little snappier and more instant. If you don't notice a difference that's fine. It's probably trivial for me to notice the little hang ups but I can't help it.
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For me there's several reasons. For the most part, the reason for oc is because you can. But there are practical reasons as well. For example, with the stock ROM running at 800MHz, you're stuck with that. With an oc kernel and using SetCPU or built in clock settings in CM, you can adjust it as needed. Gonna play a game? Bump it up to 1GHz or so. Done with said game? Take it back down to 800MHz. But it's not all about oc. Sometimes there's a need to underclock. Getting low on battery and don't have a charger near by and need to squeeze another hour or two out of it? Maybe take it down to 768MHz or 600MHz (if you're running Pershoot's kernel).
Dungeon Defender:
800 mHz : not fun, laggy
1.5 gHz : fun, graphic are more smooth
Reasons for using over clocking:
Because I can
Because sometimes I do notice the difference in performance of the UI and some applications (wait for Sense 3.0 etc...)
Because I also use it to underclock.
Like everything else, a lot of it is perception. My wife cannot see any difference between our normal cable channels and the HD ones. I can (or am I just trying to convince myself that I can?). Oh well.
Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
here's my experience when it comes to overclocking. keep in mind that, like with your computer, it does vary from user to user... so I'm making these statements from MY experience, not making blanket statements regarding all of our devices:
- if you run multiple homescreens with multiple widgets and ui "smoothness," not just aesthetically, but performance-wise as well, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you have several apps running at any given time (in background or foreground) and ui smoothness, same definition as above, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run any iteration of a sense rom in any configuration and ui smoothness is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run PSX/N64 emulators and you don't want audio distortion or general lagginess, more aggressive (in my case, 1209 is a safe speed for maximizing performance without having a drastic effect on battery life) overclocking becomes necessary.
on AOSP builds, especially gingerbread-based, I don't think there is a necessity for more processing power than what we get from the factory if you're running a relatively slim setup and aren't using something like a PSX/N64 emulator regularly.
I run mine at 1ghz, but I did use 1.2ghz before. I do notice a slight performance difference. Overall tho I don't notice it much. I notice it more when I'm doing multiple things.
Nonsense!
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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I run 1.1 because it is noticably faster. Everything opens faster and works smoother. My wife has a stock G2 and when I grab it to look something up on the web or to use maps when we're out, I instantly notice how mucher slower hers is.
Works for me so I use it.
I notice a definite performance boost on mine, but it also depends on which kernel/ROM you use. I was running meXroid for a few days and found that it got extremely laggy even overclocked with Flippy's kernel built in (1.9Ghz), plus my battery was dying faster than a Chuck Norris joke. PyroMod has always been reliable for me and I flashed back to 2.0 earlier and it's just as reliable and power-saving as ever.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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Thanks for that.
I followed this guide to install Overcome_v2.0.0_RC1:
(cant link yet)overcome.mimzo.com/?page_id=64
I started from: Re-“Stocking” Yer System…
I love it! My Tab is faster, does not lag anymore and just works great!
Thanks to all devs.
great news will try it thanks.
Same here. The improvement in the stock browser is jaw dropping. It used to be shocking, now it hangs with my iPad now problems.
hmmm . i think the thread is out of record .. !!
So this will not work with the Sprint Tab? I am new to all of this.
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ThaClown said:
I followed this guide to install Overcome_v2.0.0_RC1:
(cant link yet)overcome.mimzo.com/?page_id=64
I started from: Re-“Stocking” Yer System…
I love it! My Tab is faster, does not lag anymore and just works great!
Thanks to all devs.
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It lags on 720p and 1080p movies if u dont enable hw acc , but then u break avi containers. . . U still can use any alternative player like moboplayer wich uses hw acc
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i experienced that it is quite fast to change between stagefright on and of with blade buddy, even without any reboot or ui restart, so more or less enables playing all movies in best way.
anyway, when someone could write a very small app that just toggles stagefright for the player on and off through widget, it would be the perfect solution (until there is a real fix available - which doesn't seem to be yet)
Its really nice
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i experienced that it is quite fast to change between stagefright on and of with blade buddy, even without any reboot or ui restart, so more or less enables playing all movies in best way.
anyway, when someone could write a very small app that just toggles stagefright for the player on and off through widget, it would be the perfect solution (until there is a real fix available - which doesn't seem to be yet)
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Did you turn all of your mediafright settings on, or just the one with -http at the end?
I already downloaded it. I enabled hw.acceleration, but for mediafright the only one I have on is the one with the -http tag. Should I turn all on?
I'm using mVideoPlayer for videos btw. My Mobo still lags.
Liars !!!!
OVERCOME 1.64 ON FROYO is farmore polishes and miles ahead in performance compared to OVERCOME 2.0RC1.
Ext4 filesystem on froyo ****s over gingerbread stock.
Quad scores
FROYO - 3800
GINGER - 1500
I can get 4000+ quad if I o/c
ziggary said:
Liars !!!!
OVERCOME 1.64 ON FROYO is farmore polishes and miles ahead in performance compared to OVERCOME 2.0RC1.
Ext4 filesystem on froyo ****s over gingerbread stock.
Quad scores
FROYO - 3800
GINGER - 1500
I can get 4000+ quad if I o/c
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Whoaaa.... Chill out mate. No point trying to call people names., or accusing anyone of lying.
It's true that the Gingerbread-based ROMs (including Overcome RC1) doesn't have ext4 support so it'll make some file-intensive tasks to be slower than it is on the optimised, ext4-enabled Froyo-based firmwares.
Benchmarks, and especially synthetic benchmarks like Quadrant are slightly skewed in that area. As anyone with extensive experience with these tools will tell you, benchmark tools like these do not reflect real-world experience.
However, on non-I/O intensive based tasks, the back-end optimisations on GB does provide for a much more smoother experience. It's just not as properly optimised as the Froyo-based Overcome 1.x series yet...
... And yes, there will be someI apps that will be broken, whenever a new, major base like this is released.
Of course, the best scenario would be an overclocking/undervolting, ext4-supporting kernel for Gingerbread, of which AB86 is currently busy working on in his Batcave...
Trust me, as a person who has extensive experience with ALL Overcome ROMs and kernels, I prefer the current Gingerbread-based ROMs compared to the Froyo-based ones.
Anyway, my point is this... everybody's got their own preference and choice. Some prefer the Froyo-based ROMs/kernels over Gingerbread, just like some prefer Windows XP over Windows 7. No point trying to be fanboi-ish or militant about stuffing your choices down people's throats...
Relax and enjoy the fruits of AB86 labours...
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I'm using an "old" 1.4.x overcome version and I am fully happy with.
I have no issue at all, that's why I don't upgrade to 2.x
Anyway, when google talk video will work, I'll be pleased to upgrade to 2.x, in the meantime, I have no reason to upgrade.
The other reason is the upgrade processing : I have no windowz computer, so using odin and friends is a pain in the a**.
If they released this with overcome it might have had half a chance in the market against ipad.
The difference is night and day
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People laim gingerbread has better browser yet news.com.au on oc 1.64 at 1.2mhz is three tkmes smoother lol
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pendevous said:
Did you turn all of your mediafright settings on, or just the one with -http at the end?
I already downloaded it. I enabled hw.acceleration, but for mediafright the only one I have on is the one with the -http tag. Should I turn all on?
I'm using mVideoPlayer for videos btw. My Mobo still lags.
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i have to toggle the stagefright "player" setting on and off depending on material. depending on material and setting, i think i dont realise any greater lag, even from external sd card. but i havnt watched a complete movie in 1080p.
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The other reason is the upgrade processing : I have no windowz computer, so using odin and friends is a pain in the a**.
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I used heimdall under Linux with success fyi. Just need to untar the package, and choose all the correct files separately ( except Movinand.mst and hidden.rfs, no use).
ziggary said:
Liars !!!!
OVERCOME 1.64 ON FROYO is farmore polishes and miles ahead in performance compared to OVERCOME 2.0RC1.
Ext4 filesystem on froyo ****s over gingerbread stock.
Quad scores
FROYO - 3800
GINGER - 1500
I can get 4000+ quad if I o/c
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Wow, 3800 on Froyo! Only made it to 2400 max. You must have been tweeking the hell out of your tab =)
After updating to 4.2 via using the toolkit to download and flash google 4.1.1 factory image, then updating to 4.1.2 via OTA, then flashing the 4.2 update via recovery, I have noticed something very special...
Gaming. Oh my god. Gaming. What happened? What the hell happened? I mean- one minute I was happily running 4.1.2, the latest Smooth Rom, coupled with Motley a11, with the GPU clocked at 520Mhz, and the CPU at 1.6Ghz. And playing games.such as NFS Most Wanted and NOVA 3 was... Acceptable. Just about smooth enough to enjoy (20-25 FPS). And the next minute, I'm running 4.2 stock, with 100% stock frequencies for every aspect of the tablet, and gaming is soooooo darn smooth!!! (30-40 FPS). I mean- what the actual hell have Google pulled here??
Before its mentioned- I've checked. Both of the games mentioned still have the full Tegra Effects enabled, just as they were when they were running under 4.1.2.
My verdict is that when the games were running under 4.1.2, they weren't running on all cores available. Maybe just two, or perhaps even just one! Is it possible that Google have now enabled all the cores available to applications? If so- why wasn't it like this before?
What are your thoughts people?
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After updating to 4.2 via using the toolkit to download and flash google 4.1.1 factory image, then updating to 4.1.2 via OTA, then flashing the 4.2 update via recovery, I have noticed something very special...
Gaming. Oh my god. Gaming. What happened? What the hell happened? I mean- one minute I was happily running 4.1.2, the latest Smooth Rom, coupled with Motley a11, with the GPU clocked at 520Mhz, and the CPU at 1.6Ghz. And playing games.such as NFS Most Wanted and NOVA 3 was... Acceptable. Just about smooth enough to enjoy (20-25 FPS). And the next minute, I'm running 4.2 stock, with 100% stock frequencies for every aspect of the tablet, and gaming is soooooo darn smooth!!! (30-40 FPS). I mean- what the actual hell have Google pulled here??
Before its mentioned- I've checked. Both of the games mentioned still have the full Tegra Effects enabled, just as they were when they were running under 4.1.2.
My verdict is that when the games were running under 4.1.2, they weren't running on all cores available. Maybe just two, or perhaps even just one! Is it possible that Google have now enabled all the cores available to applications? If so- why wasn't it like this before?
What ate your thoughts people?
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Overclocking GPUS and CPUs doesn't always mean you're getting the best performance out of your device.. In a lot of cases it can actually cause no performance increase or worse performance.
Especially at a OC of 1.6 and a GPU at 520.. I can almost guarantee your device was getting throttled down for thermal protection while gaming..
I hope you are right. But i don't see why it would not have used all cores before, it depends more on the application using threads properly.
Will definitely try some games when i get home, wish we had a Nexus 7 at work but they preferred an iPad mini for 7-8 inches app testing
lol edit srry
Yeah you're probably right. But even on stock kernel, I wasn't getting the smoothness I am now
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Overclocking GPUS and CPUs doesn't always mean you're getting the best performance out of your device.. In a lot of cases it can actually cause no performance increase or worse performance.
Especially at a OC of 1.6 and a GPU at 520.. I can almost guarantee your device was getting throttled down for thermal protection while gaming..
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Glad you said it, peeps still think an overclock = performance when in most cases a max overclock will hurt more than it helps, well unless you break out the liquid nitrogen.. happy days.
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I hope you are right. But i don't see why it would not have used all cores before, it depends more on the application using threads properly.
Will definitely try some games when i get home, wish we had a Nexus 7 at work but they preferred an iPad mini for 7-8 inches app testing
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off topic but how you getting on with the ipad mini? Is the screen as bad as they say? not that im saying the N7 screen is good or anything its passable at best.
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Glad you said it, peeps still think an overclock = performance when in most cases a max overclock will hurt more than it helps, well unless you break out the liquid nitrogen.. happy days.
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off topic but how you getting on with the ipad mini? Is the screen as bad as they say? not that im saying the N7 screen is good or anything its passable at best.
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Screen is terrible. Text looks like crap.
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Nvidia recently made some improvements to their Linux driver, claiming "double the performance."
Maybe some of those improvements made it into the Tegra 3 driver for Android?
I have not tried any games on 4.2 yet, can anyone confirm what the OP said?
Yeah I am aware that over-clocking rarely means performance increase. Its just fun to experiment sometimes and see for yourself
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It's slightly faster with some games, but I wouldn't call it major or anything.
steevp said:
Nvidia recently made some improvements to their Linux driver, claiming "double the performance."
Maybe some of those improvements made it into the Tegra 3 driver for Android?
I have not tried any games on 4.2 yet, can anyone confirm what the OP said?
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I got no performance improvement on Antutu, Egypt HD or Classic.
Neither did I. But I imagine those apps will soon receive an update to take advantage of 4.2?
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Oh dear, if you call 30-40 FPS a major increase then i worry about android gaming. Its 2012. 60 FPS should be the standard frame rate by now. games should be as smooth as project butter. This is why i jumped ship from windows phone to the galaxy s3. i wanted more power to run these games properly. sadly, a lot of them dont. I bought need for speed most wanted and hope it would run at 60 fps. it dosnt unless there is something wrong with my S3. Why do android owners think that 30 fps is acceptable in this day and age of dual and quad core processors?
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Oh dear, if you call 30-40 FPS a major increase then i worry about android gaming. Its 2012. 60 FPS should be the standard frame rate by now. games should be as smooth as project butter. This is why i jumped ship from windows phone to the galaxy s3. i wanted more power to run these games properly. sadly, a lot of them dont. I bought need for speed most wanted and hope it would run at 60 fps. it dosnt unless there is something wrong with my S3. Why do android owners think that 30 fps is acceptable in this day and age of dual and quad core processors?
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I can't tell you how many fps Need For Speed has on the S3 but I'd say it runs damn fast. A lot faster than on my N7 (still 4.1.2).
60 fps or 30 fps boils down to less detailed graphics or more detailed graphics on the same hardware. If you ask me, I take more details @30 fps then cheesy graphics @60 fps.
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I can't tell you how many fps Need For Speed has on the S3 but I'd say it runs damn fast. A lot faster than on my N7 (still 4.1.2).
60 fps or 30 fps boils down to less detailed graphics or more detailed graphics on the same hardware. If you ask me, I take more details @30 fps then cheesy graphics @60 fps.
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each to their own, perhaps your attitude is why developers cant be bothered to make or optimise android games to their full potential. should my quad core S3 be running games as smoothly as the same game on the dual core iphone 5? yep. do they? nope. im pretty sure that the S3 is capable. poor optimization i suspect. as an example, i bet need for speed most wanted is smoother on iphone5 than the S3 version? likely running at 60 fps but with the same graphics, same with Nova 3? FIFA 12? list goes on.
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i wish i had 4.2...
and here i thought people could only notice about 24fps... everything is smooth for me (except for spiderman) and im still on 4.1.2...
p.s can you tell me why my n7 wont update to 4.2? it notifies me theres an update and i click reboot&install, and it, i think, starts installing but something happens, and it just reboots with 4.1... thanks in advance
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and here i thought people could only notice about 24fps... everything is smooth for me (except for spiderman) and im still on 4.1.2...
p.s can you tell me why my n7 wont update to 4.2? it notifies me theres an update and i click reboot&install, and it, i think, starts installing but something happens, and it just reboots with 4.1... thanks in advance
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thats what people keep saying but .if you have two copies of the same game one running at 24fps and the other running at 60fps and have them side by side. then you can easily tell the difference. Also JB, project Butter allows the UI to Run at 60fps, as they say, buttery smooth. if a person could not have be able to tell the difference between 24fps and 60 fps then why did they bother with project butter? there is a huge difference between the smothness of jelly bean compared to Gingerbread, or even ICS on some of the phones which cant quite handle ICS. thats why I want the games to run at 60fps...we have the technology and power with android now......
Most of life is a choice between one or the other but with the Nexus 7 along with Root, Custom Recovery, cm10.2 unofficial, Faux Clock Kernel Control App and Jassy Release 5 Kernel it might just be possible to have both. Jassy has managed to put together a kernel that combines a 1.9 GHz over clock and a 487 MHz GPU over clock. With a global undervolt of -24 MV I managed to pull off stunning benchmarks, smooth lag free performance and incredible battery time. Just under 13 hours battery time in fact. I did this with a YouTube kung fu movie fest for about 12 and a half hours and a half hour of benchmarks and downloading a few apps. Remember if you game you can not expect this kind of battery performance but it does do great at that as well. I've attached some screenshots of my settings so you can reproduce these results if you would like.
Remember when you Root, ROM and Over clock you do it at your own risk and please thank the fine Developers who gave their time to make this kind of fantasy possible. I in no way had a hand in developing this software, I just took the time to do many benches and battery tests on many Roms and kernels then undervolted a bit.
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Nice, will have to check this out
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So to replicate your results, we need to flash cyagen, and jassy release 5, and then adjust the settings to replicate yours, or does jassy's release already have some of those settings in it?
What other apps did you download?
Getting longer battery life and a faster tablet is quite attractive!
EDIT I just installed jassy r5, and my quadrant is only 5679.. is something wrong, or do I need to also do the tweaks you listed here first?
EDIT 2: I've set faux to the same setting now, but am still using cleanroom1.3, and the quadrant results are 6787
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So to replicate your results, we need to flash cyagen, and jassy release 5, and then adjust the settings to replicate yours, or does jassy's release already have some of those settings in it?
What other apps did you download?
Getting longer battery life and a faster tablet is quite attractive!
EDIT I just installed jassy r5, and my quadrant is only 5679.. is something wrong, or do I need to also do the tweaks you listed here first?
EDIT 2: I've set faux to the same setting now, but am still using cleanroom1.3, and the quadrant results are 6787
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Sorry I never saw your posts. Never looked at the thread again. To replicate my results you would have to download cm10.2 and Jassy release 5 and faux kernel control app paid version and set exactly like in the screen shots. I have since made a few more refinements but nothing you couldn't play with yourself. Make sure you enable mpdecision. Make every screen look like mine.
Fiops as I/o and 62c 82c as intellithermal is the only settings changed. Bout 7 hours of YouTube and 5 hours of heavy browsing. Couldn't ask for better battery life. NO Gaming.
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Yep, I did duplicate them, but couldn't get quadrant scores anywhere near yours. (they were better though.. it might be a cleanroom issue).
I upgraded to Jassy rev 6, ran into issues, and then just reflashed the stock kernel.
I was hoping we'd see Jassy rev 6 lockup issues fixed, but its been a week now. I'm also read of a few misc cm issues, and I'e been waiting for them to clear up as well. Cleanrom isn't having any issues at all, so I've stuck with it for now.
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Fiops as I/o and 62c 82c as intellithermal is the only settings changed. Bout 7 hours of YouTube and 5 hours of heavy browsing. Couldn't ask for better battery life. NO Gaming.
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How's stability with your set-up?
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Yep, I did duplicate them, but couldn't get quadrant scores anywhere near yours. (they were better though.. it might be a cleanroom issue).
I upgraded to Jassy rev 6, ran into issues, and then just reflashed the stock kernel.
I was hoping we'd see Jassy rev 6 lockup issues fixed, but its been a week now. I'm also read of a few misc cm issues, and I'e been waiting for them to clear up as well. Cleanrom isn't having any issues at all, so I've stuck with it for now.
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Cleanrom will not bench as high. Its a stock based ROM. Truth is though once your this high your not gonna see a whole lot of improvement in daily performance unless you go looking for it. Cleanrom is one of the best Roms I've ever used and there is absolutely nothing wrong with sticking with it. I go back and forth between the 2 myself. As themes and tweaks come out for nexus 7 2013 you'll find cleanrom will get even better than it is now also. Wish someone would do a tablet ui lol.
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How's stability with your set-up?
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I haven't had a single random reboot. Chrome works real well as long as you can change it from beta in lower left of xda page. I haven't overheated but I gotta tell you I'm no hardcore android gamer. Some angry birds from time to time or subway surfers lol. I have probably gamed for about an hour or so on these settings and not gone into a state of panic about temps though. Any longer than that or some other game and I couldn't say. in fact FOR me things are so smooth on this machine I had to order a new HP to tinker with lol. Seriously this is the best android machine I've owned. And buddy, I've had em all. I also use adaway so that may help with chrome as well.
Impressive scores man.
Yeah hesitant to jump to other roms myself at least at this time. Everything is so new finding a "good one" is hard to do at least yet. Though I've used CleanROM's on other devices I've had in the past and love them. Personally if CleanROM comes out with a 1.4 I might consider jumping into it.
Thanks for sharing! My only suggestion would be for you to recommend another kernel tuning app other than Faux's app. I'm just personally not a fan of someone who does nothing but kang, and even then still doesn't credit who he is kanging from. Too many hard working honest developers for me to support a faux developer (yes, pun intended. Maybe that's where the screen name came from?).
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EDIT : For anyone questioning the integrity of my comment, just do some research and you'll see what I'm saying
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Thanks for sharing! My only suggestion would be for you to recommend another kernel tuning app other than Faux's app. I'm just personally not a fan of someone who does nothing but kang, and even then still doesn't credit who he is kanging from. Too many hard working honest developers for me to support a faux developer (yes, pun intended. Maybe that's where the screen name came from?).
Just my $0.02.…
EDIT : For anyone questioning the integrity of my comment, just do some research and you'll see what I'm saying
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I have absolutely No interest in politics on my nexus 7 2013. if he did wrong, shame on him however I have tried each and every kernel control app on the market and reported my best results. I have yet to produce scores or battery life comparable even within 10% of fauxclock/Jassy R5 combo. I do not intend to do any research at all about whatever faux123 did or didn't do. I understand a personal grudge and respect your right to hold one. If your looking for something as close as you can get to his kernel control app try trickster. I didn't have a lot of success with it but you might find a combination that works close. If I were in the middle of whatever happened between faux123 and you or whoever I might have formulated an opinion. I'm not chiding you either. You brought an issue before me and I am simply stating I don't want involved as its in my humble opinion not my place or my fight, not to mention it appears it was already fought.
if I simply hated and didn't use a product based on someone else I don't know having a problem with that individual I wouldn't be able to buy anything, at all, anywhere, on earth, or in heaven, ever! If you tell me he harmed a baby and I see he was convicted of it in a trial of his peer's elected in a fair and balanced environment I will most certainly NOT have anything to do with him. But unproven or conflicting information, that may be due to personal interpretations is difficult for me to get involved in. Especially after the fact. And then there is the whole, if a man was punished for his crime do you continue to persecute him after he paid his dues thing.
Are there any deal breaking issues in CM? If not, switching does not bother me at all, and getting better all over performance is worth while.
I just don't want to spend more time tinkering with my tablet than actually using it.
What's your binning?
appreciate you sharing your jassy 5 set up with the fauxclock app. im on jassy 5 as well and have been running the setup that jassy posted but now im gonna try your set up. i just got one question about it: how is your sleep mode stand by time? i lose 1-2% in 8 hours
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Are there any deal breaking issues in CM? If not, switching does not bother me at all, and getting better all over performance is worth while.
I just don't want to spend more time tinkering with my tablet than actually using it.
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I personally would call the current cm build almost RC material. I have no problems with it at all.
My bin was 14/2 if I'm not mistaken.
I probably lose a bit less than that but can't say for certain as I constantly use it lmao. I do get exceptional screen on time really. There are some screen shots on previous page I think.
Cool. Might have to take the plunge. Do you have to wipe to install it? (I didn't have to wipe for cleanrom.)
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Cool. Might have to take the plunge. Do you have to wipe to install it? (I didn't have to wipe for cleanrom.)
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You have to wipe on a first install.
conan1600 said:
You have to wipe on a first install.
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Ugh.