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I'm just gonna stick with rooting. Will rooting hold up against the update or will I have to nandroid unlock and flash a stock rooted rom?
This has been asked several times. Please visit the Android development section and you will see. A little searching doesn't hurt.
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Well there is so much information being thrown around at the moment, that I haven't been able to find a stock rooted 1.47.xx rom, either, and all I do is search.
OP: If you find it, let me know and I will do the same.
thats because one doesnt exist.
Use a patched version of the OTA or a ROM with it baked in and you keep root. Flash non-patched OTA and you loose root. eazy-peazy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
the OTA will break your root.
however, if you've already done that, you can reroot since the most recent OTA has been rooted.
Short answer is yes.
Long answer will involve you going to a different sub forum for evo and looking it up.
nenn said:
thats because one doesnt exist.
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Ha! Thanks.....believe it or not, that actually explains a lot. I think I'll wait for a stock rooted rom to be available.
Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)
seankent4uf said:
Things can change quite quickly around here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718889
Herein lies the answer to your quest. ;-)
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Yea, I saw that earlier, but this is for people who upgraded via the OTA 1.47.xx and then lost root. For this to work for me, I'd have to willingly upgrade to the OTA, and then run through these steps. I don't think I want to do that.
I'm in the process of unlocking NAND now since I'm going to need to have that done in order to proceed with anything related to 1.47.xx, so once I get this done, I'll worry about finding something that works.
I am pretty sure this is what you are looking for... It is a Rooted rom, based off the 1.47 update.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712695
or this one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915
which one of those work?
I was actually running the first of the 2 links myself, since I was having major problems with my EVO, and could only use limited ROMs. It was very reliable, but I wanted the flexibility to run other ROMs. I have not run the one posted in the 2nd link, but from some of the replies, it works well also. If you are already rooted, and are comfortable flashing ROMs, I would recommend the first, since it loads just like any other ROM. It all depends on how much work you want to do.
I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
floridatank said:
I am thinking about getting a Droid X this afternoon. With the OTA update is it rootable and if so with what? Thank!
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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Not the OTA. You will need to sbf back to froyo and then upgrade to the pre rooted GB
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I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
floridatank said:
I went ahead and got it. It has 2.3.3 on it, Will Gingerbreak work on that? Thanks!
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Nope! Like I said its unrootable
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Unrootable...
But that doesn't mean you can't root.
SBF to froyo.
Flash the 2-part gingerbread .zips.
Flash a custom rom (Liberty?)
Or stay on the froyo kernel...
and try MIUI or Cyanogen.
Be careful and read as much as you possibly can before starting. Myself and at least one other on here with the latest iteration of the X have ended up with boot looping or totally non-responsive devices.
I have started a thread with my findings. I am by no means an expert but I do have much experience with rooting devices going all the way back to the PPC6700.
Good luck.
getting stuck in a bootloop is part of the exploration process IMHO.
At least once per new ROM I'll flash something 'just to see what happens' and end up SBF'ing back. Just make backups between steps if you aren't sure about what will happen next.
it would be nice if one of the devs or people who work on rooting or someone in the know would at least comment if we are going to get a real root with the OTA
i mean im running froyo with CM7 but i sure would like the new firmwares for all the radios flashed and then be running CM7
so if someone could give us some kind of update at least saying no one is even remotely working on trying to gain root on 4.5.596 Official OTA or that yea we are working on it but it is a ***** and taken longer then we expected
that lil bit of info goes a long ways
thanks
I am not aware of any dev working on this ATM.
I don't think rooting 596 ota is critical 2nd unit has opened up alot of new doors and the attention has shifted. However I have flashed all of drew gardens latest and ran cm4dx until nightly 47. Now I'm daily MIUI and loving it, despite locked bootloader the cdma_shadow still has alot of options.
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to my understanding .596 has better battery life and signals are better for wifi and cellular (at least more stable and less drops)
i do not know if this is true but i have read/heard alot of ppl saying the battery life is better on .596
after all there is a .596 for some reason and its not a lil bump from 2.2.340 its pretty big
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
m16-maniac said:
anyhow someone really needs to figure this out as the baseband has changed....i mean there is the pre-rooted rom .596 that works great so we know it can be done.
whats the big deal...let us have it
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the big deal is that there isn't a readily found exploit for the ota, the pre-rooted was done with a diff. method (brute force? recompiled?) but the versions are the same regardless
no ones holding back a secret root method, there just isn't a dev interested in spending huge amounts of time to recreate what already exists
i think it would be interesting to create a batch script that sbf's a phone and installs the pre-rooted .596 but all hidden behind a random animation so the user doesn't see what's happening. if i call it a 'one click' root method lots of people who don't seem to want to take the readily available pre-rooted gb for whatever reason would likely be happy. yeah i understand that if it includes a sbf then data may get lost, but if i said in the instructions of my 'app' that it would happen and they should have backups, people would still likely use it
sorry, but i just don't understand why so many people who want root are seemingly against using the pre-rooted option, as most of them don't have the knowledge to find an exploit or a root method from scratch themselves, so they are still using the work of someone else...
<Disclaimer>I'm going out on a limb here with limited knowledge of the X. <End disclaimer>
From what I read and I don't remember where, the rooting of an X involves a 2nd init method by which it takes control of the initial init. I believe I read the original init isn't able to be exploited and this is the basis of some of the more complicated methods of rooting the X.
If someone knows more about this please correct me or chime in.
I had an Incredible prior. The rooting was more comprehensive and simple. I believe that is because the bootstrap and recovery were not as difficult to get into. That being said, personally, I may be going back to another HTC device if the folks light years smarter than me aren't interested in developing a root method like the other devices out there.
Am I able to downgrade, root, and then upgrade back to exactly what I'm using right now? Aka, same Rom, same Version/Build, still receive automatic android/system updates, etc, and etc, (but with root)?
M: T-Mobile G2
V: 2.3.4
BV: 12.52.60.25U_26.08.04.30_M3
KV: 2.6.35.10-g96de068
B#: 2.15.531.3 CL82286 release-keys
It's been agonizing waiting for an easy and effective root since the 2.3.4 update and I'm now considering following one of the numerous methods that can be found around the forums, specifically, the downgrade/root/upgrade method.
My concern is that the majority of the methods described all end with using a custom rom such as Virtuous, Cyanogenmod, etc--- but I don't want a custom rom. I want exactly what Rom the T-Mobile G2 is supposed to have, but with Root. I also want my system to update as it normally would.
Am I able to downgrade, root, and then upgrade back to exactly what I'm using right now? Aka, still receive android updates, etc, etc?
Side Note:
I did try the "G2 2.3.4 OTA 1-Click temp-root" method however I couldn't seem to get it to work. The thread can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220595
Any thoughts on upgrading back to the stock rom (plus root) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
-- HobbesG2
HobbesG2 said:
Am I able to downgrade, root, and then upgrade back to exactly what I'm using right now? Aka, same Rom, same Version/Build, still receive automatic android/system updates, etc, and etc, (but with root)?
M: T-Mobile G2
V: 2.3.4
BV: 12.52.60.25U_26.08.04.30_M3
KV: 2.6.35.10-g96de068
B#: 2.15.531.3 CL82286 release-keys
It's been agonizing waiting for an easy and effective root since the 2.3.4 update and I'm now considering following one of the numerous methods that can be found around the forums, specifically, the downgrade/root/upgrade method.
My concern is that the majority of the methods described all end with using a custom rom such as Virtuous, Cyanogenmod, etc--- but I don't want a custom rom. I want exactly what Rom the T-Mobile G2 is supposed to have, but with Root. I also want my system to update as it normally would.
Am I able to downgrade, root, and then upgrade back to exactly what I'm using right now? Aka, still receive android updates, etc, etc?
Side Note:
I did try the "G2 2.3.4 OTA 1-Click temp-root" method however I couldn't seem to get it to work. The thread can be found at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1220595
Any thoughts on upgrading back to the stock rom (plus root) would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
-- HobbesG2
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I would argue your G2 is "supposed to have" Cyanogen, but to each their own.
You will need to follow this guide to downgrade if you want to root. And yes, you can flash a pre-rooted pure stock 2.3 ROM. Just search the Development forum and you'll find it. Your phone, however, should not notify you about updates after this - and you don't want it to. If you were to flash an OTA update you would lose root.
The wiki is also very helpful if you still have questions.
If you really want to see what your phone can do try out some custom ROMs after you root. Thousands of HTC Vision users can't be wrong.
Glite is a good alternative too, with the stock theme and launcher, it looks and acts exactly like stock, plus it's lighter and faster
Follow the wiki for root. You'll abandon what you have now, but you can flash a pre-rooted stock ROM after you're rooted. Chances are you'll wanna dabble in non stock ROMs eventually lol. I remember when I first rooted I though I'd never flash a custom ROM lol... ROMs like cm7 are similar to stock but perform better, have more features, and better battery life.
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martonikaj said:
I remember when I first rooted I though I'd never flash a custom ROM lol
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Yeah, I've known about roms for a long while now but I just never wanted to give up the stock rom because I never wanted to be put in a situation where my markets and/or apps would give me problems, although I do realize how silly the concern is.
I guess I should just bite the bullet and try CM7 out. Worst case scenario I can always go back to boring old stock. And who knows, I might be converted after all.
HobbesG2 said:
I guess I should just bite the bullet and try CM7 out. Worst case scenario I can always go back to boring old stock. And who knows, I might be converted after all.
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Yes, exactly, you can always flash right back if it doesn't suit you. And I, too, was hesitant to flash a custom ROM the first week or so after rooting. But once I did my only regret was that I waited at all.
Alright so I downgraded to v2.2 and established root, etc etc.
I toyed with a couple roms, namely CM7 and I'm incredibly bummed because after researching a bit more on it, I realize that it has issues running google apps such as swype, navigate, market, etc. I use google apps daily for both pleasure and work. It's sort of essential that I have a solid google-app working rom.
I'm debating on upgrading to a rooted gingerbread 2.3.4 however I wanted some advice from the vets who have more experience than I so I can save myself some hard-ache.
I'm looking at G-Lite presently, and think I might give it a try, I hope it has solid use of google apps.
I've been running cyanogen since the G1. I recently tried out the stock gingerbread, and it was OK, but I missed a lot of features that are built into the CM rom, such as the status bar power widget.
One thing I noticed about the stock gingerbread is that is was velvety smooth, which isn't surprising since it is built with the actual hardware drivers. If you are used to the froyo stock rom, then you probably won't miss the extra features.
There are a few rooted stock gingerbread roms in the dev section- Paul O'brien, spookievision, and rr5678 all released stock(-ish) versions.
If you want it more stock than that, you'll have to root it yourself. I'm not sure if rooted stock roms will be able to apply the update successfully. You will probably receive it, but it might break root. Maybe it will work if you keep the stock recovery.
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but I missed a lot of features that are built into the CM rom, such as the status bar power widget.
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People tell me that the versatility and diversity of whistles in CM is inviting but the stability issues make me concerned. For me, reliability will always trump bells&whistles.
gee one said:
One thing I noticed about the stock gingerbread is that is was velvety smooth, which isn't surprising since it is built with the actual hardware drivers. If you are used to the froyo stock rom, then you probably won't miss the extra features.
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I'm using G-Lite 1.0.3 right now and I must say I'm enjoying the simplicity of it and the fact that it is a bare-bone system. I like how it was obviously built with Froyo/Gingerbread in mind. It produced Swype problems but I easily fixed it by using the Swype-Installer.apk found on the Swype Website
[ beta(dot)swype(dot)com ]
That's really the beauty of a rooted android device - you can have exactly what you want on *your* device.
downgrade with stock s-off
Hi all,
I just bought this G2 unlocked with OTA GB (somehow i regret to click upgrade system after reading G2 forum =D).
My G2 :
VISION PVT SHIP S-OFFHBOOT 0.82.0008
MICROP-0425
RADIO 26.08.04.30_M3
eMMC-boot
I really want to root and use HTC sense UI 3.0 my G2. Every thread about downgrading to froyo was for S-ON GB not S-OFF like I have (i assume). It's S-OFF since the first time i bought it.
Could you all help me to choose what method should i use to downgrading my g2, root it, and use custom rom with HTC sense UI.
Thanks a lot guys,,
You're the best
Ok over the past 2 days I have searched over almost every single thread on the MY Touch 4g forums and can not seem to find a definite answer on this question:
Is there any way to take a rooted S-OFF, the Engineering HBoot & the ClockworkMod Recovery, 2.2.1 Stock build using the instructions on cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide and upgrade it back to the Stock t-mobile 2.3.4 build without unrooting etc?
I am not overly interested in installing cm7, although I did have a great experience with it on my t-mobile HD2 before the screen decided to stop working for the 2nd time. I actually did enjoy using the stock 2.3.4 build on the mt4g but would like to have more power over my phone (such as changing the hosts files to get rid of ads, remove bloatware apps I'm not interested in myself, etc).
All threads I have read more or less say once you downgrade, root and install clockwork recovery to install a rom of your choice, well I would like that rom to be the stock 2.3.4 build. Other threads state that in order to install the 2.3.4 build you need to install using the bootloader(which would unroot your phone) and not clockwork recovery.
If someone could please point me in the right direction to accomplish this goal you will seriously make my day/night/week/month.
If something is in the works that's great, I'm willing to wait it out. If this is a completely impossible goal so be it, I'll use CM7 mod.
kearnsy said:
Ok over the past 2 days I have searched over almost every single thread on the MY Touch 4g forums and can not seem to find a definite answer on this question:
Is there any way to take a rooted S-OFF, the Engineering HBoot & the ClockworkMod Recovery, 2.2.1 Stock build using the instructions on cyanogenmod.com/wiki/HTC_Glacier:_Full_Update_Guide and upgrade it back to the Stock t-mobile 2.3.4 build without unrooting etc?
I am not overly interested in installing cm7, although I did have a great experience with it on my t-mobile HD2 before the screen decided to stop working for the 2nd time. I actually did enjoy using the stock 2.3.4 build on the mt4g but would like to have more power over my phone (such as changing the hosts files to get rid of ads, remove bloatware apps I'm not interested in myself, etc).
All threads I have read more or less say once you downgrade, root and install clockwork recovery to install a rom of your choice, well I would like that rom to be the stock 2.3.4 build. Other threads state that in order to install the 2.3.4 build you need to install using the bootloader(which would unroot your phone) and not clockwork recovery.
If someone could please point me in the right direction to accomplish this goal you will seriously make my day/night/week/month.
If something is in the works that's great, I'm willing to wait it out. If this is a completely impossible goal so be it, I'll use CM7 mod.
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just flash the rooted rom of the MT4G 2.3.4 update
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1264704
not sure how you missed it lol...
flash the rooted version in this thread.
flash via CLOCKWORKMOD RECOVERY.
hit the thanks button if i've helped
Wow... Seriously... 2 days of looking and how the hell do I miss that.
Seriously thanks, but I blame the title of that thread "T-Mobile myTouch 4G GB Upgrade (Rooted & Unrooted)" Should be a Sticky and renamed to something like READ HERE TO UPGRADE TO 2.3.4 ROOT & UNROOTED
Sigh, but seriously thanks.
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Wow... Seriously... 2 days of looking and how the hell do I miss that.
Seriously thanks, but I blame the title of that thread "T-Mobile myTouch 4G GB Upgrade (Rooted & Unrooted)" Should be a Sticky and renamed to something like READ HERE TO UPGRADE TO 2.3.4 ROOT & UNROOTED
Sigh, but seriously thanks.
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lol it's ok, everyone makes mistakes
Hi All, I just got my Nexus one off ebay and it appears its not rooted as i do not see the padlock icon and i also cannot run the nexus torch.
What im looking to do is revert back to the stock software and than do all the OTA updates myself.
Can someone help me with this ? Im not looking to root though.
Im running the ATT version of the Nexus one.
Thanks all for your help.
To be root or not
if you do not see the padlock, then you are root!!
hi, yes i know and i do not see the pad lock so i have a unrooted phone. Im trying to find out how i can install the stock software this way i can do the OTA updates myself.
Thanks
If there's no padlock and you're sure it's not rooted... why do you think it's not already stock?
Well its running gingerbread and i wanted to go back to froyo and than OTA the updates myself
If its not rooted, root it! What version you on currently?
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Im on the Nexus one ATT version, running the most recent gingerbread OS.
2.3.6???
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If it is, try root using this... http://apachejava.blogspot.com/2011/06/root-nexus-one-gingerbread-234.html
My dad using my nexus one, so i dunno much... So, is your bootloader unlock, if it is, then go ahead with the link above... Then S-OFF using BlackRose...
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Check this!!
Might help you.
http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/56512/downgrading-google-nexus-one-from-android-gingerbr.html
If you don't see the padlock it means the bootloader is still locked. If you don't have the SuperUser app then you are more than likely NOT rooted. Sounds like a stock phone if you ask me. Why do you want to roll back to Froyo then update? Sounds like you are already where you want to be. It sounds like a case of reaching around your ass to scratch your elbow. Heh. If you try to OTA update it and it says you are up to date, I would suggest leaving it alone or just root it! Good luck!
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Well its running gingerbread and i wanted to go back to froyo and than OTA the updates myself
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Why? Is there a problem with what is currently installed? If it's working fine, then I would expect downgrading to a previous version and applying the updates would just get you back to where you are now. I'm not criticizing, just trying to understand what you're looking to achieve
If you mean stock as in "original" that isn't Froyo either. The Nexus One originally came with Eclair (2.1). If you don't have root, I'm not sure if you can downgrade or how safe it would be. I've seen mixed results with downgrading. The only way to do a complete flash would be with an unlocked bootloader or root + custom recovery.
If you don't want to root or unlock the bootloader, why not just do a full wipe and use the version you have on it? You could also root it temporarily to restore to an unrooted Eclair or Froyo, then apply the updates.
Thanks Narbir, I'm going to try this. Does it matter I have AT&T ?
I hope So. I m usng Voda uk. Don't really brother me by that.
Well the phone reboots often for no reason so i thought if i started from the factory installed software and go forward it would help.
How hard is it to root to install enclar and than go forward ? Unless someone has another idea for the reboot issue ?
Install the latest stock ROM in PASSIMG format (complete ROM, all the partitions). No need to go back to Eclair or Froyo.
Prepare for the possibility of it not helping at all, and your phone HW being faulty. If you have ADB set up - you can run "adb bugreport" after the crash, and look for "ARM9 has crashed" line in the log dump that comes. If you'll see them - no amount of ROM switching will help.
Not to sound pedantic, but you seem a little confused (OP). Why don't you start by reading the FAQs regarding rooting and unlocking the bootloader, and understanding the ROM installation processes.
Couple of fundamentals to get you started:
1. The padlock (or absence of) is no indication of whether you are rooted or not. It merely indicates whether your 'bootloader' is unlocked or not, which is a completely separate concept from rooting.
2. Easiest method of seeing whether you are rooted is to see if you have the 'SuperUser' app in your app drawer.
If your objective is to install a stock/default ROM, search for a 'PASSIMG' for the latest available firmware for your device. Search these forums or Google it. The procedure is fairly straightforward and only involves putting the file on your SD card - and will restore your phone to a stock usable state.
If you're interested in custom ROMs, the fastest way to get started is to use SuperOneClick to root (Google, please). Then go to the market and download ROM Manager and just follow the instructions!