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Is anyone impressed with froyo so far?

I think having flash is cool. Doesn't seem as good to me as the oc'ed dl09 blackhole I was running before. Seems glitchy and temperamental. I haven't run one rom for a few days to let things settle in but that's because it just isn't doing it for me yet.
Maybe when the kinks are worked out and there is an overclocked voodoo option it will be more to my liking.
Some of the controls do not seem as intuitive either such as settings that have to be activated through an action or haptic having to be turned on but vibration intensity set to zero to turn it off when typing in different apps.
I see why verizon and samsung don't throw it on the market as is.
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Im running Rubik's and am extremely impressed. I feel like it does everything faster. Only thing I find that has taken a step backwards is the web browser. It seems a little slower and doesn't autosize websites when I double tap.
Really that's my only thing ... I'm not seeing a lot of the bugs that have been reported by users.
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i second the rubik's post. but alltogether, froyo is kind of...
lame. everyone said we shouldn't get our panties in a bunch over it. and they were right. it seems to cause just about as many problems as it fixed.
so again, i guess we go back to hating samsung code dev. why can't this just be a google native phone? when android started that was the idea right?
(of course this is most likely due to the difference in hardware, but its still fun to blame samsung).

I actually find the browser to definitely load sites a bit faster than Eclair's -- which should be expected since a browser performance boost is one of Froyo's top-billed features.
That said, I think people need to remember that this (DL30) is almost certainly not a release that will ever see the official light of day. Simply put, we're running a leak that was never supposed to get out. There are obvious bugs (like long-pressing search) and quite likely more than a few non-obvious bugs too. Heck, Droid Life already has pictures of a newer Froyo ROM with all the expected Verizon bloatware (Blockbuster, Bing, etc.), so that just adds support to the idea that DL30 simply isn't ready for primetime.
But I do have to say this: whether on stock Android or not, Froyo does offer a measurable performance boost over Eclair. Anyone who says otherwise really should take a look at the benchmarks performed by quite literally every major tech blog and news site out there. Of course it's not like getting a new phone, but it truly is a noticeable speed boost. So why aren't we seeing much if anything noticeable now? That should be obvious: bloatware aside, once again, we're simply running an unfinished ROM.

Froyo is great. Please don't complain about it. People worked hard for this. We don't need your discouragement, this will develope more, just give it time
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The wait for Froyo's feature set was for me, secondary to the wait for the development boost. The guys on our forum do great things, but noone wants to be working with 2.1.
This brings us to the proper foundation to build from.
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It's OK.
It only confirmed what i already knew. That our XDA developers are the true innovators and the only ROMS i care about are theirs.
I was one of those that frequently said Froyo was not a big deal. I installed it, and my thoughts are mixed.
Was it worth the wait? well there are things that i liked and things not to like.
Here's what i liked. For starters, I have a galaxy tab and when i installed my games onto my Fascinate they didn't work. I suspected it was because of Froyo 2.2. I was right. They all came to life on Froyo. Pocket legends HD is spectacular. I also am able to use Kongregate now as well as Hulu (with mod). The email reader was slicker and the facebook integration smoother.
Here's what i disliked. While i've had no bugs (i re-installed a stock image first), it is slower, less bells and whistles than my previously fabulous Custom Rom's and themes. and of course back to bloated touchwiz junk. I did put adw, but it still seems slower than before. Most of the upgrades were under the hood and to be honest i never really felt them.
I miss my custom themes, but for now i'll keep this froyo and wait for themes ported to it to give it my final opinion.

Froyo delivered what I wanted it to deliver:
- A GMail app that has almost all of the features I need
- A contact list that sorts by last name
- The ability to move apps to my SD card
- Fully functioning Flash
I am happy....

Slower then my dj05....period.

Falcyn said:
I actually find the browser to definitely load sites a bit faster than Eclair's -- which should be expected since a browser performance boost is one of Froyo's top-billed features.
That said, I think people need to remember that this (DL30) is almost certainly not a release that will ever see the official light of day. Simply put, we're running a leak that was never supposed to get out. There are obvious bugs (like long-pressing search) and quite likely more than a few non-obvious bugs too. Heck, Droid Life already has pictures of a newer Froyo ROM with all the expected Verizon bloatware (Blockbuster, Bing, etc.), so that just adds support to the idea that DL30 simply isn't ready for primetime.
But I do have to say this: whether on stock Android or not, Froyo does offer a measurable performance boost over Eclair. Anyone who says otherwise really should take a look at the benchmarks performed by quite literally every major tech blog and news site out there. Of course it's not like getting a new phone, but it truly is a noticeable speed boost. So why aren't we seeing much if anything noticeable now? That should be obvious: bloatware aside, once again, we're simply running an unfinished ROM.
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According to quadrant...I'm running 115mhz slower on dl30 with a decrease of about 3 mflops...so I'd say it is not faster. It's actually very...apparent

Overall, I'm happy with it. Selecting text and cut/copy/paste is vastly improved, it's got built-in screen capture, better multitouch, better g-mail client and I can now use the full Skype app.
The little glitches need to be accepted in so far as we *are* using a leak. There are reasons Verizon hasn't released this yet, and chances are, these are those reasons.

so far I'm loving the 2.2 leak. Working great.

Pfredd said:
Froyo delivered what I wanted it to deliver:
- A GMail app that has almost all of the features I need
- A contact list that sorts by last name
- The ability to move apps to my SD card
- Fully functioning Flash
I am happy....
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Moving apps to SD card
is there are ROM that has this feature included?

Right now everything is definitely faster than my completely stock fascinate. The only thing that doesn't work is the included email and Google maps and navigation which is a little annoying

Are you kidding? Flash, new Gmail, sort contacts, add ringtones without having to create a phone contact, and Chrome to Phone. I can't tell you how often I use Chrome to Phone. Anytime I need to install a zip, I just send it right to my phone. Overall, I have to say 2.2 is a very nice improvement over 2.1.

For me, the DL09 w/voodoo was the best overall Fascinate experience... but coming from a Froyo'd OG Droid... I really missed Chrome to Phone and Flash... so that's why I am running DL30.
What I am hoping for? DL09 Voodoo performance with DL30 features... I am gonna stick with DL30 for now (as switching back from DL09 Voodoo bricked my phone) and hope that we can get Voodoo like performance soon enough...
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I did the stock (rooted) leak and then went to Superclean for Froyo. Superclean can be modded with blackhole elements and other tweaks you can find in the forum. Bottom line? I get faster performance and less lag. The browser works faster and it is a cleaner integration. My only issue now is battery life. I was getting very good battery life with my old setup. So I wiped bat stats, reinstalled clean after wiping everything, etc. and it still doesn't seem right. When I check usage it seems to overly point out display (like 95% of battery usage). I'm not sure what's going on but I'm up to about nine hours of battery life so it's good enough. I'm hoping some of these things will get resolved as time goes by. Any wisdom, let me know. Overall, froyo works well and will only get better.
One note. I was noticing the browser issue as well. Go to the settings in the browser and that will take care of it. Apparently "resize" isn't the default as it should be.

The Froyo Gmail app allows me to send outbound mail from all the addresses I have set up in my Gmail account - a significant improvement from the pre-Froyo version which only sends outbound mail from your main Gmail address.

onemotodroid said:
Moving apps to SD card
is there are ROM that has this feature included?
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The stock ROM has it. You need to go to Settings / Applications / Manage Applications. Click on the app you want to move. If the app supports moving, the "Move to SD card" button will be active. Just press that button.

Now that I have Blackhole 4.1 the experience is getting better. Seems to be running smoother.
Can't wait for voodoo and oc'ed kernels.

DI18 2.1 unrooted > DK28 2.2 rooted

I've been playing around with this phone a lot since I got it. Today, I flashed back to DI18 and left it unrooted and found myself astonished at how much better the overall performance is.
DK28 is garbage.
If this is old news, I apologize... I just got this phone a week ago.

huh? i've only had my phone since tuesday, i haven't rooted it as of yet... but i wanted to see what that froyo is all about.

Don't do it. It's fun to play with, but like the OP said, if you want something that works reliably and well, stay stock.

Bonsai dk28 works great for me, but to each his own.
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I have nothing against people who experiment with different baked ROMs on their phones--after all, where would we be without 'em?--but the performance of stock 2.1 on my Epic was already solid enough that I only really felt I needed to root for a few specific apps. I think any flashing I was going to do was always going to wait until official 2.2 was out and more development is done. I am jonesing for the new features and hopefully speed but am patient.

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Bonsai dk28 works great for me, but to each his own.
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Agree bonsai is fantastic, no bugs what so ever and very clean and fast. Way better then 2.1 stock battery life ia about the same.
i wont go back to d118, i will miss hulu and, humans vs, aliens and andy 83 those apps only work on 2.2 and my phone has been running fantastic and way better then d118.
GPS works better!
Wifi Works perfect!
Orientation switch is fast!!
And what ever other bugs people are having im having 0

I'm running stock DK28 and it works absolutely flawless, dunno why so many have issues, I have none
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I agree with the OP. I was running Nebula 1.0.7 and things were smooth for me but I went back to stock and outside of the progs that require 2.2, things are solid at least for me. Now I'm running Syndicate with Xtreme kernel and I'm loving it until we get the official Froyo
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I want to go back to 2.1, but the ONLY thing that stops me is that I NEED GPS.
GPS on 2.1 is poop. I would have a hard time finding my peepee if it weren't for GPS.

I just did the exact same thing!
Running Nebula, was getting weird issues, so I went back to Syndicate with Xtreme kernel v1.2.
Ahh, everything is so snappy. I'll stick with this for a while.
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I agree with the OP. I was running Nebula 1.0.7 and things were smooth for me but I went back to stock and outside of the progs that require 2.2, things are solid at least for me. Now I'm running Syndicate with Xtreme kernel and I'm loving it until we get the official Froyo
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It sounds like most of the people who are noticing problems are using nebula. You guys should give bonsai a try.

Ryjabo said:
I've been playing around with this phone a lot since I got it. Today, I flashed back to DI18 and left it unrooted and found myself astonished at how much better the overall performance is.
DK28 is garbage.
If this is old news, I apologize... I just got this phone a week ago.
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Lolol! I have been saying exactly this for as long as I remember. Froyo is freaking jerky. The animation transitions are not smooth.
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Flashing to Midnight ROM 3.2 is the best thing I ever did.
I love my Epic 4G…I loved it with Eclair, and I am now using midNIGHT 3.2 BYOR and I love it. It’s benchmark scores are twice as fast as Eclair, and you can tell how fast and snappy the phone is. Here is a list of the things I like best that Froyo was needed for.
1. Chrome to Phone – Huge time saver and way more useful than I thought it was going to be, and I thought it would be useful, lol
2. Flash 10.1
3. The apps that needed Froyo for enhancement… Gmail, Youtube, Winamp (there is a station I like on Shoutcast and Winamp required Froyo for Shoutcast)
4. Google Docs – being able to edit Google Docs on the go. The reason I wanted a phone with a keyboard was for doing long emails and editing documents and spreadsheets. The on-screen keyboard is OK, but takes up a lot if real estate.
5. Moving apps to the SD Card – I am an app junkie and I need the space, lol
There are more things, but those are the most important to me. It is was like I got a new phone for a second time. Some of the other things I think that help make the phone better that are not Froyo “items” are the Gingerbread Keyboard (really, really good, better than iOS in my opinion), ASOP Lock Screen, and the EXT4 file system.
I still liked the phone when it had Eclair, and I wouldn’t go back and buy a different phone (and I like it on Froyo even better), it is nice hardware, awesome 5-row keyboard, and it’s AMOLED screen rocks and everyone who see’s it immediately compares it to their own back lit LCD screens, and develops a serious case of envy, lol. I am old enough to know that companies will be companies and will always make and break promises(Apple customers have to put up with a company that said their alarm was fixed in November to have it happen again in January and tells them they are holding their phone wrong). It would be nice if they always kept their promises, but they can’t. If companies were 100% honest, no one would buy their products just like if politicians were 100% honest, no one would vote for them. It would be nice to think we still would, but if we would….wouldn’t there already be 100% honest companies and politicians, lol

Zeinzu said:
I'm running stock DK28 and it works absolutely flawless, dunno why so many have issues, I have none
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Agreed.
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If Froyo is jerky and not smooth, you are doing something wrong. It works fine with a rom that isn't a piece of ****.

hazridi said:
If Froyo is jerky and not smooth, you are doing something wrong. It works fine with a rom that isn't a piece of ****.
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+1 bonsai runs way better then 2.1 and bettery life us slightly better...
Sent From My Bonsai Epic 4g

Been running TrulyEpic 1.5 and quite pleased with the performance, features, battery-life, etc. I really really like that it now boots in < 30 seconds. (I swap batteries instead of charging, so quick boot times are especially nice).
2.1 Eclair simply unusable because of the Calendar and Bluetooth Voice Search bugs.
But beyond that you're just wrong on performance in Eclair vs Froyo.

Custom roms that much faster than stock?

Thinking about flashing a custom rom on my epic and was curious if the speed of custom roms are that much faster than stock. I'm not having any issues running stock outside of the known issues (checkerboarding browser, etc) nothing show stopping.
What is faster when running a custom rom? Apps loading? Bootup? Web browsing?
Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
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Nathias2k said:
Thinking about flashing a custom rom on my epic and was curious if the speed of custom roms are that much faster than stock. I'm not having any issues running stock outside of the known issues (checkerboarding browser, etc) nothing show stopping.
What is faster when running a custom rom? Apps loading? Bootup? Web browsing?
Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.
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Everything is try ACS Frozen it's perfect... and blazingly fast.
click on it in my signature...

Viper trinity 4.0 get the 1.4mhz genocide kernal I got the exact same setup and all my scores are in the 2,000 plus area its insanely fast and very stable. I am willing to put my scores against any of my friends the viper team and rodderick did some amazingly awesome work
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iSaint said:
Everything is try ACS Frozen it's perfect... and blazingly fast.
click on it in my signature...
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Your opinion doesn't count...you are biased.
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I'm on ACS Frozen now and its fast as hell. I was on viper and find the themes to be a bit childish for me. ACS is a clean and fast!!

Really? Please tell me you and your friends don't sit around and compare benchmarks?
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Viper trinity 4.0 get the 1.4mhz genocide kernal I got the exact same setup and all my scores are in the 2,000 plus area its insanely fast and very stable. I am willing to put my scores against any of my friends the viper team and rodderick did some amazingly awesome work
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I'm not sure about benchmarks but there at least SEEMS to be a little more snappiness in ACS vs stock, even after removing bloat from the latter and re-enabling journals on the former. I'm not sure what it is that really makes the difference but ACS has Carrier IQ removed, which isn't just a simple app. You apparently have to dig deep into the source code to extract it line by line.

honestly I can't tell the difference unless i'm running a benchmark.

I am using midNIGHT 5.2 BYOR. I like this ROM because I don't want a lot of bloat and it is highly customizable. I know what I need on my phone to do what I want and I don't need all the bloat. This ROM, like other ones, have Carrier IQ removed. (This well written post by k0nane explains why you don't want Carrier IQ on your phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11763089 ). I have used Frozen ROM from ACS and it is a good one too, I just like the simplicity and customization of midNIGHT.
Here is a list of what I like over the stock ROM:
1. Overclocked Kernal. I run at 1.2ghz and it is much faster. I don't put much stock into benchmarks, but you can tell it is faster when you navigate through it and open apps
2. Voodoo sound. It makes a drastic improvement in the sound quality when listening to music, especially in streaming audio with a lower bit rate, it sounds less "tinny".
3. Battery life. I use setcpu, and my phone scales the processor well. I can go all day on my stock battery, and I use my phone quite a bit (Angry Birds, Streaming Radio, MP3 Player, GPS, texting, calls, Gmail, internet, Words with Friends, Need for Speed, Soundhound, XDA, Gasbuddy, Twitter and Market. All of those are used in a typical day, plus a few random ones)
Since midNIGHT 5.0 a month or so ago, I have not had one "Force Close" or random reboot. It is great. It is like I have a different phone. I suggest you try a ROM or 2 out, you can always flash back to stock. Good luck!

Any rom with EXT4 support will be exactly what you're looking for. (midNIGHT rom, ACS Syndicate, UrbanLegend, or Bonsai).

budderocks said:
I am using midNIGHT 5.2 BYOR. I like this ROM because I don't want a lot of bloat and it is highly customizable. I know what I need on my phone to do what I want and I don't need all the bloat. This ROM, like other ones, have Carrier IQ removed. (This well written post by k0nane explains why you don't want Carrier IQ on your phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11763089 ). I have used Frozen ROM from ACS and it is a good one too, I just like the simplicity and customization of midNIGHT.
Here is a list of what I like over the stock ROM:
1. Overclocked Kernal. I run at 1.2ghz and it is much faster. I don't put much stock into benchmarks, but you can tell it is faster when you navigate through it and open apps
2. Voodoo sound. It makes a drastic improvement in the sound quality when listening to music, especially in streaming audio with a lower bit rate, it sounds less "tinny".
3. Battery life. I use setcpu, and my phone scales the processor well. I can go all day on my stock battery, and I use my phone quite a bit (Angry Birds, Streaming Radio, MP3 Player, GPS, texting, calls, Gmail, internet, Words with Friends, Need for Speed, Soundhound, XDA, Gasbuddy, Twitter and Market. All of those are used in a typical day, plus a few random ones)
Since midNIGHT 5.0 a month or so ago, I have not had one "Force Close" or random reboot. It is great. It is like I have a different phone. I suggest you try a ROM or 2 out, you can always flash back to stock. Good luck!
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All the things you listed in your 3 reasons has nothing to with the rom. Your talking about a custom kernel not a rom. Custom roms just have a lot of the bloatware gone.
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musclehead84 said:
All the things you listed in your 3 reasons has nothing to with the rom. Your talking about a custom kernel not a rom. Custom roms just have a lot of the bloatware gone.
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To say that everything that I had listed has nothing to do with the ROM is not correct. Battery life has to do with the ROM, amongst other things. Also, the other kernel dependant enhancements are part of the whole "package" that is the ROM. You're only looking at what I wrote and trying to split hairs for an unknown purpose, because it doesn't appear you are trying to be helpful. The OP wanted to know if a custom ROM was worth it, I gave him my opinion of the ROM I use so the OP could make up their own mind. If you were wanting to be helpful you could have maybe suggested to the OP to try a different kernel instead of a whole ROM instead and explain why or why not. Have a great day!
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budderocks said:
I am using midNIGHT 5.2 BYOR. I like this ROM because I don't want a lot of bloat and it is highly customizable. I know what I need on my phone to do what I want and I don't need all the bloat. This ROM, like other ones, have Carrier IQ removed. (This well written post by k0nane explains why you don't want Carrier IQ on your phone http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11763089 ). I have used Frozen ROM from ACS and it is a good one too, I just like the simplicity and customization of midNIGHT.
Here is a list of what I like over the stock ROM:
1. Overclocked Kernal. I run at 1.2ghz and it is much faster. I don't put much stock into benchmarks, but you can tell it is faster when you navigate through it and open apps
2. Voodoo sound. It makes a drastic improvement in the sound quality when listening to music, especially in streaming audio with a lower bit rate, it sounds less "tinny".
3. Battery life. I use setcpu, and my phone scales the processor well. I can go all day on my stock battery, and I use my phone quite a bit (Angry Birds, Streaming Radio, MP3 Player, GPS, texting, calls, Gmail, internet, Words with Friends, Need for Speed, Soundhound, XDA, Gasbuddy, Twitter and Market. All of those are used in a typical day, plus a few random ones)
Since midNIGHT 5.0 a month or so ago, I have not had one "Force Close" or random reboot. It is great. It is like I have a different phone. I suggest you try a ROM or 2 out, you can always flash back to stock. Good luck!
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Great information, I too enjoy Midnight Rom a little better than the rest out right now. Don't get me wrong, ACS, Bonsai are both great roms. I installed the Standard clean version and it sold me. Was awesome having the ability to download the additions zip also and customize very easily only the programs I need and wanted in a very simple step. To the OP, I would give it a shot if I were you.
Budderocks - just ignore the people that have nothing better to do than make up things to flame about. Never argue with an idiot, they only bring bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Having played the multiple rom games I'll say that I'm a bit tired really. As for bloatware, sdx app remover works for me in that area. I don't need to over clock, phone runs just snappy at default 1ghz. Also I'm not one of those e-penis quadrant score folks, don't care for useless benchmarks that translate nothing to me in everyday use of the phone.
Just my opinion, and the way my Epic works fine for me. Stock EC05, rooted.

Actually I was letting the op know that what you wrote was about a kernel not a rom so at least he knew the differences. I didn't think I was being mean but u guess its how you took it. I do apologize. I don't apprecirbeing called an idiot though
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I personally have used 3 Custom ROMS. Truly Epic, Ace ROM, and now I'm on Syndicate.
All of them do show some improvements in everything from general snappiness to having better battery.
Speaking just about Syndicate, it has absolutely no checkerboarding in the browser. It also removes Carrier IQ which if you read the thread for the ROM is a pretty big deal in terms of privacy, performance, and battery life: As mentioned above.
I could never get 8 hours of battery life out of my phone now I'm consistently getting a day of life with 3 hours of screen on time. It's pretty sweet in all honesty.
And if you care about benchmarks, the scores to increase by a pretty decent margin! =D
I don't think I'll ever be able to go back to a stock ROM in all honesty.

Still using Enom's The Official. Anyone else?

I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well. Great ROMs both. But at the end of the day my preference is still Enom's due to the ease of setting up a2sd and dalvik cache locations right from inside the modded spare parts, the ease of installing mods like FM radio, T-Mobile WiFi calling, dsp manager, HTC sense camera, audio boost kernel, HTC sense music and games, all right through the spare parts. I know that cyanogenmod can now do all these things (apart from apps2ext) but I like the implementation and ease in enom's. Also the ability to control CPU speeds and whatnot from spare parts as well.
The one thing which I don't understand though is performance. I'm not talking about benchmarks. I'm talking about noticing it in browser scrolling performance. Using dolphin mini in all ROMs. For some reason I find that Enom's ROM takes the cake there even over cyanogenmod. And I don't understand why. I'm using Enom's stock kernel and my CPU settings are very stock (998mhz max, 245mhz min, on demand governor). But scrolling on a webpage for most sites is like iPhone smooth on Enom's and the others is always very slightly stuttery. You have to really look to notice but the difference is there. This is with everything the same on all ROMs, flash on demand, text reflow not enabled.
Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.

I am also still using the Enomther's rom
I think this is the fastest and the most efficient rom.

do you guys still watch vhs?

ksc6000 said:
I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well. Great ROMs both. But at the end of the day my preference is still Enom's due to the ease of setting up a2sd and dalvik cache locations right from inside the modded spare parts, the ease of installing mods like dsp manager, HTC sense camera, audio boost kernel, HTC sense music and games, all right through the spare parts. I know that cyanogenmod can now do all these things (apart from apps2ext) but I like the implementation and ease in enom's. Also the ability to control CPU speeds and whatnot from spare parts as well.
The one thing which I don't understand though is performance. I'm not talking about benchmarks. I'm talking about noticing it in browser scrolling performance. Using dolphin mini in all ROMs. For some reason I find that Enom's ROM takes the cake there even over cyanogenmod. And I don't understand why. I'm using Enom's stock kernel and my CPU settings are very stock (998mhz max, 245mhz min, on demand governor). But scrolling on a webpage for most sites is like iPhone smooth on Enom's and the others is always very slightly stuttery. You have to really look to notice but the difference is there. This is with everything the same on all ROMs, flash on demand, text reflow not enabled.
Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.
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Still on Enom myself. It just works, always. It never acts funky, no spontaneous reboots, no wonk, no chasing the latest nightly hoping some random bug is fixed..
I use CM7 on my tablet, but I need my phone to just work and it does rather well on Enom.
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do you guys still watch vhs?
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Go play in traffic.

ksc6000 said:
I'm just curious. There are so many great ROMs out there for our nexus ones thanks to the fantastic devs. But my preference is still Enom's. I like stock builds so I've tried cyanogenmods and Geo's stock build as well.
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Anyways just wanted to hear anybody else's opinions.
And Enom if you're listening, we miss you and your great work.
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Still on Enom's but I'm looking to switch to the Gingerbread.
I'm waiting for the next stable Cyanogen (without the so called wonk). I think I'll have to do a lot of tweaking to get it to the state I want. Enom's ROM needed very little to give me an aesthetically pleasing style. Cyanogen is pretty chaotic. (I think if it could be changed it was ... whether it needed to be or not!).
I'd like to find another ROM that was like Enom's in that it added sensible, useful enhancements and was still usable as a phone for everyday use... suggestions welcome!

khaytsus said:
Still on Enom myself. It just works, always. It never acts funky, no spontaneous reboots, no wonk, no chasing the latest nightly hoping some random bug is fixed..
I use CM7 on my tablet, but I need my phone to just work and it does rather well on Enom.
Go play in traffic.
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it was joke you douche go play with a horse ****

b1337 said:
do you guys still watch vhs?
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Lol. No seriously though,
Are any of you noticing the performance difference? I mean try loading up androidcentral.com for example. And just scroll up and down. It's buttery smooth on Enom's ROM for me, whereas Geo's, Cyanogenmods, and the MIUIs are almost there, and to the untrained eye they are very smooth, but if you're looking for it, you can see the difference. (Using dolphin mini, no text reflow, plugins on demand).

vk2bea said:
Still on Enom's but I'm looking to switch to the Gingerbread.
I'm waiting for the next stable Cyanogen (without the so called wonk).
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The call wonk has been fixed for a few weeks at least now. The only glaring bug I have using build #87 is the lock screen wake/black screen, but that only takes 5 seconds till it turns right back on after waking it again. I don't know if that has been fixed but I have had no call problems at all.

b1337 said:
it was joke you douche go play with a horse ****
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You're still here? Adults talking, go play outside.

khaytsus said:
You're still here? Adults talking, go play outside.
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You sir are a ****ing idiot, get some more posts them talk **** u ****ing noob
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I mostly used enom till I moved over to the sgs2. That was before the wonk was fixed which I found pretty annoying. If it hadnt been for that I would have stayed on cm as it brought a lot to the table but for me the fundementals are important and one thing about enoms rom was that as already stated "it just works". I miss him and hope he got past the life issues he was facing.

krabman said:
I mostly used enom till I moved over to the sgs2. That was before the wonk was fixed which I found pretty annoying. If it hadnt been for that I would have stayed on cm as it brought a lot to the table but for me the fundementals are important and one thing about enoms rom was that as already stated "it just works". I miss him and hope he got past the life issues he was facing.
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Agreed. 10char

[Q] Speed with the 3.0 Roms

Hey guys I have been trying to work with the 3.0 Sense roms to find the best one for me, my big issue is speed, man they really lag on my phone. Is there anything that I can do to boost speed, wish I could just have a few of the 3.0 things and keep the old stuff for reliability and speed. Any help would be cool including what rom to run and how to make it fast!

what things are you wanting to keep from the 3.0?

Have you tried Synergy? 2.1 with some 3.0 elements and I didn't have any of said issues. Was as close to the 'next step' without any deal breaking issues. You could also run the field of the 'newer' Sense ROMs until you settle, as some might not play nicely.
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What kind of slowness/lag are you experiencing? If it's mostly when switching from one task to another, you may be limited by memory. For example, if you find the launcher is slow to come back up, it may be getting killed while you run something else.
I just finished a few days each on MikG and Synergy. That was after a long time on CM7 and then various FroYo Sense ROMs before that. My experience on MikG/Synergy was that it generally did things well when they were in the foreground. But I couldn't multitask at all. If I was listening to music and I opened up Gmail, for example, the music app would almost always get killed. Or coming back to a browser window would be slow, because it had to reload the page instead of still having it in memory. And that's on a Hybrid 2.1/3.0 ROM. I actually do like a lot of the Sense parts, but I just couldn't live with that.
I tried some of the RAM optimization scripts, and they didn't help for my usage patterns. Basically I think we're approaching the limit of what can be done with 512MB of RAM.

They pretty much all lagged for me as well but not this one..i REALLy love it.
http://supersonichtcevo.blogspot.com/2011/06/sense-30-with-gingerbread-viruss-b14.html

Thanks guys I think your right I think we are close to the best the phone can do and that is that, I did find one from a guy saying its the best rom out, seems really fast but has some bugs, I may hang in there with him and see if he can get them ironed out.

I say try synergy. I use it and I experience very little lag with it.

Yeah, I have tried most of all of them too. I found a little lag in most of them except for Synergy RC2. It has been completely awesome. Battery life is amazing and even after I filled my homescreens full of widgets and icons its still smooth as butter. I never get any lag anymore. Its worth a try and it has so many customizations you can add to it unlike any other rom. Try Synergy RC2. You can't go wrong.

King's kingdom Rom should fit the bill for you. Exceptionally fast. I recommend the stock odex version.
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taadow1030 said:
King's kingdom Rom should fit the bill for you. Exceptionally fast. I recommend the stock odex version.
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He's right ya know. Even with a theme over it , this ROM is flawlessly smooth and fast.