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So a year ago when I bought this phone I apparently paid $500 to be a beta tester of an underperforming, premature, lackluster phone. I've lost alot of time behind this phone's malfunctions. yeah it's cool that I can tweak it and write software for it, but if everything locks the phone up whats the point.
well it froze for the 1 millionth and last time this morning. I witnessed "The Flight of the Mogul", and it was freakin awesome.
I'm over cell phones, I'd go back to smoke signals if i didn't run the risk of arson.
i think we all feel your pain. I'm just biding my time until i can afford a replacement. Likely ill wait the one more year or so till my contract is up and go to an iphone lol.
I would have gladly taken that sucker off your hands.
Good, glad to hear it you smashed your mogul. Meanwhile while yours lays in pieces mine is giving me the power playing movies flawlessly in skyfire, giving me perfect voice guided navigation from IGO 8, the piece of mind of the newest windows live speakable search, fast email and texting with a full qwerty keyboard, the power to retrieve files off my desktop at home, perfect access to my IM accounts, and new home screens whenever I grow tired of one. And you know the one thing I haven't worried about since DCD 3.x.x is ram. Everything runs smoothly and transitions like men in your mom's bedroom. Trash the mogul in some other forum, because for the majority of us it works perfectly. Compare it now to the problems the diamond has. I think you'll agree it has far less at this point. I will do fine on carrying me into the next generation. Nothing except the touch hd is really worth getting excited about right now and it is having trouble making it to the US. Why don't you just go get a blackberry storm? It is easier to use for you.
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I would have gladly taken that sucker off your hands.
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sorry, i would only give that phone to my worst enemy...
i'm not finished with it yet anyway. I still have plans to run over my HTC Titan with my Nissan Titan.
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Good, glad to hear it you smashed your mogul. Meanwhile while yours lays in pieces mine is giving me the power playing movies flawlessly in skyfire, giving me perfect voice guided navigation from IGO 8, the piece of mind of the newest windows live speakable search, fast email and texting with a full qwerty keyboard, the power to retrieve files off my desktop at home, perfect access to my IM accounts, and new home screens whenever I grow tired of one. And you know the one thing I haven't worried about since DCD 3.x.x is ram. Everything runs smoothly and transitions like men in your mom's bedroom. Trash the mogul in some other forum, because for the majority of us it works perfectly. Compare it now to the problems the diamond has. I think you'll agree it has far less at this point. I will do fine on carrying me into the next generation. Nothing except the touch hd is really worth getting excited about right now and it is having trouble making it to the US. Why don't you just go get a blackberry storm? It is easier to use for you.
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I'm happy for you. I admit that the only thing I haven't done is flash to a custom ROM, believe it or not I downloaded the latest DCD this weekend but never got around to it. I think the moral to the story is that the ability to customize a device with unofficial ROM's should not be the saving grace of an otherwise poor performing device. I believe that it should be an extra, cool thing to do for geek cred, not because the phone sucks otherwise. what's so hard about optimizing the phone for its hardware before release.
I've been riding it out for a long time, thru all the updates and ports of apps from other HTC's. So i think I'll just wait until the Raphael is improved upon, atleast it has a reasonable amount of memory.
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So a year ago when I bought this phone I apparently paid $500 to be a beta tester of an underperforming, premature, lackluster phone. I've lost alot of time behind this phone's malfunctions. yeah it's cool that I can tweak it and write software for it, but if everything locks the phone up whats the point.
well it froze for the 1 millionth and last time this morning. I witnessed "The Flight of the Mogul", and it was freakin awesome.
I'm over cell phones, I'd go back to smoke signals if i didn't run the risk of arson.
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LOL LOL LOL
I just posted a thread (please read its titled HELP!!!!!!) and then i turn around and see yours and all i can tsay is whew! not the only one today! LOL
By the way I ordered my new storm, have it soon. goodbye to WM, just gonna reflash back to stock and let wife have this damn thing
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LOL LOL LOL
I just posted a thread (please read its titled HELP!!!!!!) and then i turn around and see yours and all i can tsay is whew! not the only one today! LOL
By the way I ordered my new storm, have it soon. goodbye to WM, just gonna reflash back to stock and let wife have this damn thing
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I feel you. a friend of mine has it, and it's nice, but i can't roll with Verizon, plus i dont want to be apart of the crackberry scene, and i dont want to sell my soul to Apple, so I'll probably stick with WM, At the end of the day, m$ has the most mature API. i been drinkin their koolaid for my entire career.
but in the meantime I guess I'll resort to some good 'ol fashioned yodeling.
If you have had this much trouble than no matter how you look at it, the only reason you've had so much trouble is user error. If you don't know how to properly install and cook apps and roms, then get the f out of the kitchen homie. The mogul is for people who understand devices and computers or for those who want to learn. If you are looking for a cool devices that has not even a quarter of the programing capabilities than buy a storm or iphone. They are pretty. Or buy the diamond or the touch pro and be in the same boat. The mogul is old now and it still is running with the big boys and now more than ever doing it reliably. You have a problem with installing custom roms. Its called sdk my friends. Windows did the bare minimum to release the platform and then put it in the developers hands. Developers like dcd that have more talent in their little finger than most the people at microsoft or blackberry or apple. Wait for the standard blackberry and apple updates then as they are behind from the moment they are released. And mark my words, if you have trouble with the mogul you will have trouble with any htc device. They all have their ups and downs though the touch and the mogul's downs are pretty close to having them all worked out.
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If you have had this much trouble than no matter how you look at it, the only reason you've had so much trouble is user error. If you don't know how to properly install and cook apps and roms, then get the f out of the kitchen homie. The mogul is for people who understand devices and computers or for those who want to learn. If you are looking for a cool devices that has not even a quarter of the programing capabilities than buy a storm or iphone. They are pretty. Or buy the diamond or the touch pro and be in the same boat. The mogul is old now and it still is running with the big boys and now more than ever doing it reliably. You have a problem with installing custom roms. Its called sdk my friends. Windows did the bare minimum to release the platform and then put it in the developers hands. Developers like dcd that have more talent in their little finger than most the people at microsoft or blackberry or apple. Wait for the standard blackberry and apple updates then as they are behind from the moment they are released. And mark my words, if you have trouble with the mogul you will have trouble with any htc device. They all have their ups and downs though the touch and the mogul's downs are pretty close to having them all worked out.
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pump your brakes. it'll be ok.
Do you need me to draw you a schematic to pump yours?
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Do you need me to draw you a schematic to pump yours?
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please do.
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please do.
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Good one. Loewst, sir, as much as I enjoy this written pissing contest with you I think what's said and done is said and done. You're an idiot and broke one of the top 15 if not top ten devices out there, which I'm not entirely sure you did. Probably woke up this morning and decided to put up a bull**** post because you were bored. Whatever the case this is probably my last post for today because I get out of work in an hour. Enjoy your smashed plastic. I buy and move so many moguls to people that love them that proves you to be just a little drama queen. Peace out.
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Good one. Loewst, sir, as much as I enjoy this written pissing contest with you I think what's said and done is said and done. You're an idiot and broke one of the top 15 if not top ten devices out there, which I'm not entirely sure you did. Probably woke up this morning and decided to put up a bull**** post because you were bored. Whatever the case this is probably my last post for today because I get out of work in an hour. Enjoy your smashed plastic. I buy and move so many moguls to people that love them that proves you to be just a little drama queen. Peace out.
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ok Sweety Puss.
i don't take it personal. but yes i did smash my phone. lol.
I feel for you.
Just today I opened up the Media Player, went to the music library, and noticed one of my albums was in there TWICE. I couldn't believe it. I had to do an 'update library' just to get rid of it. I thought about throwing it under a truck. The horror of it all.
I'll bet by this Friday, I'll have even have to do a soft reset again. I already did one LAST WEEK. Uncalled for.
Flaming POS.
What's funny is that the 6800 seems to have the least appeal to two sets of users. IMO there are four broad categories of users:
1. Casuals
2. Intermediates
3. advanced
4. Pushers
Casuals are people like my mom. You know them. They want a phone but don't know the first thing about how to do anything with them. Believe it or not, the 6800 is just fine for them. You can use the standard WM 6 interface right out of the box and it serves as a very nice pcoket computer and cell phone. You see, casual users don't need a bunch of fancy tricks and special apps. They are happy to simply get a cell phone, camera, qwerty key board, and push email and pim. Nevertheless, casual users are apt to enjoy the neat interface of the iphone or storm.
Intermediates are very likely not to enjoy the 6800. Why? Because they know just enough to be dangerous. Just enough to flash a ROM improperly or load up their phone with a hundred apps and then complain when their phone becomes unstable. They get frustrated and do things like throw their phones in the air when they have no one but themselves to blame.
Advanced users, I think, like the 6800 because of its work-horse reputation, functionality, and its modability. Advanced users know how to keep their phones trim and fit and in good shape so that it doesn't crash all the time. They know how to mange their ROM and use the phone with as great efficiency as possible.
Pushers like to push the boundaries of the phone world. They are not happy unless they have the latest and greatest of everything. Latest features....latest hardware....latest software. Pushers will hate the 6800, just as they will, frankly, end up hating anything that was released more than 3 months ago. Why? Because vy then the next latest and greatest gadget is released and, by God, they have to have it!
I LOVE my 6800. It does almost everything I could ask of it. The only thing it really lacks, IMO, is a g-sensor, and so far other than the cute use as a bubble level for handyman work, all of the g-sensor stuff seems to fit in the amusing pout pointless category.
People are constantly amazed at what my 6800 can do. I have had iphone users, even after the app store opened, literally downtrodden after everything they showed me they could do I could do and then I went on and did about a dozen things they could not do.
I have complete voice navigation and gps. I have finger friendly and flick friendly apps up the ying-yang. I get the full web experience and can view streaming videos and flash and you tube on the net.
I have voice activation. I have weather. I have swappable memory (try that iphone freaks) and have every single song and most of my movie library on my phone. I recently took a 12 hour flight by myself in a jet that had a power outlet at every seat and I needed nothing with me but my phone to keep me not only out of boredom but actually entertained.
My 6800 is my office...anywhere I go. I can access my desktop at work remotely. I can not only view but create and edit Word and Excel docs. Need a quick deal memo during an important business meeting at lunch? I can take notes with my stylus BY HAND, then type them up into a Word Doc deal memo and email it to an office to have it printed. I can then run some figures in Pocket Excel to project the proceeds from the deal. All in the restaurant over lunch.
And I have yet to see ANY software keyboard come close to the hardware keyboard of the 6800. The iphone keyboard sucks. So does the diamond and the storm. They all suck...by definition. My hardware keyboard is large, usable with my big thumbs, and doesn't take up an inch of screen real estate. Can you say that of the iphone? The storm? The Touch?
I fully understand the RAM issue, but holy crud...just how many toys do you need running at the same time on your phone? I do plenty on the 6800 and I don't mind the RAM. Yeah, I suppose it could load in 2 seconds instead of 4. But who except a PUSHER would care?
Devin
Nicely put Devin! I don't think I love my Mogul quite as much as you, but it will do till significantly better hardware comes my way.
Some people take this hobby a bit to seriously. others, apparently need anger management counseling. in the end, it's just another PPC. an I bet the OP is just eating all this attention up. reminds me of my over spoiled girlfriends kids. wannna just whack em with a newspaper! heh. Lighten up people.
I wanted to rip into him some more but now I feel on his level so I am editing this post to save myself. Thank you devinc. Meanwhile, sin-cal if you want to be a father figure join the Dr. Phil forum and let us nerdy types continue with our verbal jousting, cool with you?
sweeny, your post is amusing. father figure, let the nerds squabble amongst themselves. So, first off, wasn't talking to you. secondly, I think i'm allowed to post my thoughts and feelings. so, continue on with your so called, nerd jousting. dad will just close the bedroom door while sparky plays big boy on the computer.
http://revision3.com/diggnation/episodes
Flash wars...first 5-10 minutes or so.
Just want to say love Diggnation and Im a big fan of Kevin Rose.
Been watching him since TechTV days and ((back then more than now)) he really seems to know his stuff. Somewhere along the way he reaaaallly became a hardcore Apple fanboy. Which is fine , he admits it. But his breakdown of why he didnt like Android/Incredible was just mind boggling.
My initial reaction was WTF ? Pretty much the complete opposite reaction Leo Laporte had with his Nexus One.
((I bring Leo up because they came up together and have and still do work together)).
When Leos gone into his dislikes of Android..I get it. Hes right.
But Roses were just mind boggling.
Things like cant do anything ? Lack of Apps ? complaining about mult-tasking , task manager , battery drain , interface etc.
Than him bashing Flash ((which thankfully adam shutdown with his "it works fine on PC")) was just kinda clueless to me.
Your thoughts ?
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ya it angered me..like the scrolling the cursor through the text part where he kept tapping the phone like an idiot..the incredible has an optical trackpad to easily scroll through the words
holy **** he sounds like an idiot... cant figure out how to turn stuff off on android? look what apple has done to people! geez these guys are thick...
Kevin Rose is a known idiot. I thought everyone knows that.
wow i've never seen this podcast, but that was just painful to watch, i mean stupidity goes a long way with this guy, listening to his retarded rant, hopefully he returns the incredible, and gets another iphone, maybe some other user will give a good use for the incredible :]
I used to like him. God what a dumbass Apple sheep. Apple is the dumbing of America!
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Wait, wait. People here are surprised that two douchnozzles on a couch in San Francisco might have spicy hot boners for Apple?
Oh, man. Stop the presses.
Watching this video excrement both confused and enraged me to the point of wanting to take the skinny one and use him as a blunt object with which to beat the fat "I'm so web 2.0 I don't even comb my hair" one to death.
This video is the epitome of everything that is wrong with the direction the internet, and our world, is headed.
Two douchballoons sitting on a couch, gasbagging about what they like and don't like about the accomplishments of others. Man I'm glad I wasted 5 minutes of my life on that. Now I can remember to never, ever visit Digg again in retribution.
Funny that he runs practically exclusively on Apple considering Macs lack a lot of things a PC will do for you.
At least he likes the camera lol
I stopped watching/listening to Kevin shortly after he went to Rev3. When Patrick Leo and Kevin ran Screensavers it was fun and informative to watch.. RIP Screensavers. But now Even Tekzilla is more about bringing in the cash and showing high end devices and not enough geek gadgets and stuff. I could hang with Patrick on DL.TV but when he left there and joined the Rev3 gang he lost it. Every so often I'll tune into Rev3 and checkout a few vids, but for the most part I really don't enjoy it anymore, especially Kevin.
that was indeed tough to watch. I wanted to scream at him throughout the conversation.
The one thing I agreed with was the way you select a spot in a paragraph and copy and paste, its definitely stupid.
It was really tough to watch someone with generally legitimate credentials (i never heard of him but i did some googling and whether we like it or not there a lot of people who dig the guy) to describe and complain about something he doesnt fully understand, for example:
He was complaining about, "I shouldnt need a task manager because there shouldnt be **** running in the background that i dont want running in the background". It sounds like a logical argument but isnt it true that those apps arent actually running, theyre just taking up some ram to get back to them quickly? Or are they really using battery? Because that too would be stupid.
Well he's an Apple fanboy what do you expect?
People defend stuff they own/like. It's as simple as that.
You go to an iPhone forum and they would be agreeing with him while here they get bashed on because it's the Nexus One forum =) It's not like anybody is wrong, it's just down to personal preferences. This stuff happens all the time, you start making a thread about which car is better, bmw or audi, and the argument goes on and on. Both are great cars, and the iphone os and android are great smartphone os.
Kevin Rose is a brain dead out of touch moron who has no business hosting a show about technology.
i want my time back from watching that crap...
get mr vagina pants a jitter bug
man they're lame with their little toys and little brains
So, I am not sure this belongs here, but...
Prior to my purchasing the HD2 I had a V3 Motorola Razr...yeah, big leap.
I carried a Dell Axim with me for everything else and was waiting on just the right phone. Pounced when I saw press for the HD2 months before US release.
I had never been a texter, twitterer, etc. I only ever used a phone for telephonic communication.
So, Monday we had plans to go to the Children's Discovery Museum with my six-year old son and my 4.5 month old son (yea-we are very sleep deprived these days).
We get there and it is closed. In our state of barely awake these days we kind of forgot that a lot of things are closed on Mondays. So my wife gets the idea to go to another Children's museum farther out, but realizes that we left the Garmin at home and gets pissed off. She also cannot remember the name of it.
Out comes my knight in shining armor...my HD2.
So I pull up Bing and say, "Children's Museum CT." Up pops the name and phone number. I call and they are closed. Then we think of the Maritime Aquarium. I say, "Norwalk Aquarium." Up comes the number and address. I call and they are open. Then I have Bing direct us to the place (as the wife whines that we do not have directions). We get there no problem.
Once there I am snapping off great photos left and right of my babes and zapping them up to Facebook at 3G speeds. I take a phone call and handle a work email as I am now synched with exchange (I know...shouldn't have on a family outing, but I am wired that way). I also emailed Netgear from one of my personal accounts about a problem with an RMA I am having with my ReadyNAS duo. I even played a rousing game of "Yacht II" in the museum bathroom...private stall.
I pull up Bing again after our trip and find a restaurant on the way home and look at their online menu to make sure they have food my son likes.
On the way home I text my Father regarding our plans on July 4th.
Clean it all up with my Task Manager and CleanRAM.
I sat back at this point fully satisfied with my techno purchase that has taken so much heat (and even a little flack from my wife) and I turn to her and say:
"Honey, if this thing could blow me, I swear I would divorce you and marry it."
I love my HD2
Thanks, Cam, for giving me a chuckle this morning. I'm so sick of reading how bad the phone is from those people that don't know how to use it. Great read!
Camusa said:
So, I am not sure this belongs here, but...
Prior to my purchasing the HD2 I had a V3 Motorola Razr...yeah, big leap.
I carried a Dell Axim with me for everything else and was waiting on just the right phone. Pounced when I saw press for the HD2 months before US release.
I had never been a texter, twitterer, etc. I only ever used a phone for communication.
So, Monday we had plans to go to the Children's Discovery Museum with my six-year old son and my 4.5 month old son (yea-we are very sleep deprived hese days).
We get there and it is closed. In our state of barely awake these days we kind of forgot that a lot of things are closed on Mondays. So my wife gets the idea to go to another Children's museum farther out, but realizes that we left the Garmin at home and gets pissed off. She also cannot remember the name of it.
Out comes my knightin shining armor...my HD2.
So I pull up Bing and say, "Children's Museum CT." Up pops the name and phone number. I call and thy are closed. Then we think of the Maritime aquarium. I say, "Norwalk Aquarium." Up comes the number and address. I call and they are open. Then I have Bing direct us to the place (as the wife whines that we do not have directions). We get there no problem.
Once there I am snapping off great photos left and right of my babes and zapping them up to Facebook at 3G speeds. I take a phone call and handle a work email as I am now synched with exchange (I know...shouldn't have on a family outing). I also emailed Netgear from one of my personal accounts about a problem with an RMA I am having with my ReadyNAS duo. I even played a rousing game of "Yacht II" in the museum bathroom.
I pull up Bing again after our trip and find a restaurant on the way home and look at their online menu to make sure they have food my son likes.
On the way home I text my Father regarding our plans on July 4th.
I sat back at this point fully satisfied with my techno purchase that has taken so much heat and even a little flack from my wife and I turn to her and say:
"Honey, if this thing could blow me, I swear I would divorce you and marry it."
I love my HD2
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Now, I'm sure we can find ways to make that happen, be it aided visualization or .....
Glad I could bring a little joy
All true too!
I even omitted some stuff like a multiplayer game of UNO and reading an eBook later in the evening.
I swear I love this thing.
Think HTC might use my tag line as a slogo? (HAH!)
Aw man...Classic! That has been the story of my life almost everytime we go on a trip!
Awesome story. My bro in law is still trying to flaunt his IP4G and I laugh as I destroy him doing everything. Nothing like the HD2 as my Wife has one also and has her head stuck in it leaving me plenty of me time! This phone is fabulous and I am so happy you use it properly!
yeah, coming from sprint's 3g, this thing is flying. On sprint I would get 500-700kbps. on t-mobile I am getting 2000-4000 kbps. Before, I would download podcasts at 50-70 kbps, now I get 300+kbps. Just downloaded the new eminem album in 4min.
Sorry Sprint, you were reliable, and I even have 4g in my area, but I wasn't jumping ship from Winmo to Android. And San Antonio is next on the list for the HSPA+ so it can only get better.
Only problem I have had with my HD2 so far is freezeups when I try to close file explorer and it is on the memory card. Lesson learned.
The Dell X51v was a bad ass lil machine. Saw they were selling now for $50 on ebay. I was actually thinking of picking one up just to play with and try a lil cookin.
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Awesome story. My bro in law is still trying to flaunt his IP4G and I laugh as I destroy him doing everything. Nothing like the HD2 as my Wife has one also and has her head stuck in it leaving me plenty of me time! This phone is fabulous and I am so happy you use it properly!
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Heres some iphone fun you can do at work. Launch your Youtube app and show everyone a badd ass HD video on youtube. Then have all your ATT 3g friends watch the same video on the iCrap. It will come out all crappy and low resolution. Then in front of everyone say damn your 3G is slow. Then turn on your wifi router and tell them to connect to your phone and watch the youtube video again. Then all the sudden theirs is in HD too. It makes ATT and iphone look like complete crap. I had 3 iphones watchign hd youtube on my inferior HD2 one night. The reason why this happens is iphone and att made thier app to only show low resolution video while on 3G, but full resolution on wifi. So when they connecto to your wifi it fools the iphone into thinking its local and runs in HD.
That was some story man. You know I have the exact same feeling that you so eloquently or should I say uniquely described to your wife. Just today I was looking at the HD2 lying on my microfiber cloth (I never leave it on a bare suface) and was thinking about how darn thin it is and just how much it can do. So many people complain about the HD2's size... I just don't get it. I am completely dumbfounded by the number of people giving away their HD2s for reasons people like us can't even being to comprehend. Sometime's I hate it when I think that this phone doesn't get all the appreciation that it deserves, but then I also realise that in a weird way it's good that this isn't as wide spread as the iPhone. It makes it more special to know that we belong to a select group that is more technologically evolved.
We've all come such a long way with our phones and PDA's. I was thinking about the long journey i've had with tech gizmos and how much things have changed and just how awesome they are now.
My HD2 does everything! This is what I used to dream of 10 years ago, hoping and wishing that some day i'd be able to do all this stuff on one device.
Wish came true. Just can't wait to see what HTC will bring us going ahead.
I honestly wouldn't mind an even bigger screen and hope to god that they include a trackball with the next one. A good replacement for the D-Pad that we all miss while continuing to look great.
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That was some story man. You know I have the exact same feeling that you so eloquently or should I say uniquely described to your wife. Just today I was looking at the HD2 lying on my microfiber cloth (I never leave it on a bare suface) and was thinking about how darn thin it is and just how much it can do. So many people complain about the HD2's size... I just don't get it. I am completely dumbfounded by the number of people giving away their HD2s for reasons people like us can't even being to comprehend. Sometime's I hate it when I think that this phone doesn't get all the appreciation that it deserves, but then I also realise that in a weird way it's good that this isn't as wide spread as the iPhone. It makes it more special to know that we belong to a select group that is more technologically evolved.
We've all come such a long way with our phones and PDA's. I was thinking about the long journey i've had with tech gizmos and how much things have changed and just how awesome they are now.
My HD2 does everything! This is what I used to dream of 10 years ago, hoping and wishing that some day i'd be able to do all this stuff on one device.
Wish came true. Just can't wait to see what HTC will bring us going ahead.
I honestly wouldn't mind an even bigger screen and hope to god that they include a trackball with the next one. A good replacement for the D-Pad that we all miss while continuing to look great.
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+1...my exact thoughts on all of that. Well put, man
OK, this whole iPhone 4 fiasco just gets better and better. Now, Consumer Reports jumps in with their fix for the antenna flaw...duct tape!! LMAO
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.co...t-dispatches.aspx?post=1780750&_blg=1,1780750
DUCT TAPE !! lol
Haha. I think all hell is going to start coming down on apple pretty soon. The lawsuit against them and att also got approved today.
lmao they should have just bit the bullet and MASS recalled the phones to fix the problem
It keeps getting better and better
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lmao they should have just bit the bullet and MASS recalled the phones to fix the problem
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SJ is just too proud to admit that there's a design flaw in the iphone4. Besides the stupid Apple fanboys are still buying it despite the flaw.
Wait, what flaw? There's a flaw with an apple product, nahhh; couldn't be!
I showed this fanboy my evo and he actually wants one now. Hah.
I almost feel bad for the few I know with the iPhone 4.
Almost.
Just give them the damn bumpers like you have for some in the UK.
Still doesn't fix the actual problem but it will help .
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I never had anything against apple or steve jobs UNTIL this problem showed up. The issue with the iphone 4 just justified everybody's assumptions about steve jobs and his fan boys. I lost any respect i had for jobs when he made the stupid decision to ignore the antenna issue...
He should have just given everybody free bumpers, that would have been the cheapest and most viable solution...Now he's screwed
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He should have just given everybody free bumpers, that would have been the cheapest and most viable solution...Now he's screwed
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Wow Consumer Reports totally kicked Apple right where it hurts. The whole duct tape thing at the end is awesome. It's only a matter of time till a very powerful and influential company will get theirs... and now it's Apple's turn.
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He should have just given everybody free bumpers, that would have been the cheapest and most viable solution...Now he's screwed
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"Free? What is this word free that youi use?" signed, an Apple executive
Also today, Engadget did a story on Apple deleting mentions of the issues from their message boards.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/12/apple-deleting-mentions-of-consumer-reports-iphone-4-piece-on-f/
All I hope is this doesn't effect OS X.
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You mean, like, by touching OSX in a no no place it won't boot anymore or something?.
why not
just move that gap to the bottom of the phone on futur models? I mean who puts there fingers on the bottom of the phone when making a call or even the top for that matter. The top might even be a better choice. Also isnt the antena a bad thing to be touching most things I read say not to have the antena to close to your face.
And lastly with a case its no longer the thinest smart phone.
Wait one more. How can we call this phone a smart phone with such a stupid flaw, im not even sure we can call it a phone, maybe a mini ipad since it dont make calls lol.
Its like nintendo when the wii first came out, first they gave everyone free better lanyards for there wiimotes, and then they gave eveyone Free bumpers for them. (although the nintendo thing was more of an operator error than a major design flaw)
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Its incredible how fan boys will see past the MAJOR flaw and still decide to get the icrap 4. I had a co worker pre order his, so i decided to inform him of the issue. Mind you, I showed him about 5 different websites. He said and I quote "yeah but the new version of itunes will fix that" WTF??? So today i sent him a link to CR duct tape solution and left him a roll of duct tape on his desk....lmao
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Yea your buddy is just like any other apple fanboy, stupid and wouldn't know a real smart phone if it hit them in their nerd glasses.
Apple doesn't really care about the problem on current phones. They will have it fixed on the 4g version. Same reason they didn't put a higher res camera on the back and the front. Just more reason for fanboys to upgrade again. Then the 4GS will have the video over 4G instead of wifi only and again another upgrade. Its perfect strategy for apple. Its always worked for them in the past. Why change now??
Hi I hope I'm not braking any rules by posting here. if I am I'm sorry. If I'm not then I have a question. how hard would it be to develop some thing similar to the software on the Iphone. the software I am talking about of course is the addition to the iphone 4s known as siri. now before anyone starts to hate on me. I swear I do not have iphone envy. in fact I have been thinking about this long before the iphone 4 announced this new addition to their phone. I was even talking to some people in my family about it a couple of weeks before the new iphone was announced. my inspiration and desire to see this happen came from a movie in the early part of this decade I saw from director steven spielberg called A.I in the movie technology was so advanced that even toys where able to communicate with people. keep in mind when I first saw this movie the closest thing to a smart phone was windows phone. the iphone nor android existed. then two months ago I was bored at home with nothing to do. so i decided to watch a movie. and again I had chosen A.I cause I hadn't seen it in so long. and realized since I had last seen the movie technology has greatly evolved. and while I am realizing this my cousin is talking to his phone using the voice search. which in turn looks up what he is asking for. and I thought phones can already hear us and respond. why not talk back to us. that fact that stupid apple beat android to punch really pisses me off. I'm sure they have some kind of patents on this technology. so I doubt google will be working on anything like this for us any time soon. so why not the people of xda create it. im sure if every android dev on this site worked together and everyone across all the different platforms donated we could make it happen. in fact we could make our A.I better then iphones. what do yall think?
I haven't used an iPhone in a long time, so I'm not familiar with the technology offered by Siri. However, our phones are completely capable of talking to us already. For example, a simple tasker profile can have your texts read to you when you arrive. Navigation offers spoken turn by turn directions (often with horrible pronuncation though... it pronounces a street near me, spelled Wittelsbach as "Wittels b***h"). I have a talking clock tasker profile set up on my phone. I'd love to see someone push this technology further though.
yeah
well this new A.I is exclusive to the newest iphone being released. its pretty awesome. from the videos I've seen on it. if someone text you. the phone says, you just received a text from janet saying, hi jon are still going out for dinner tonight? do wish to respond to her text. and the guy says yeah or something like that. tell her I will pick her up at 8. and the phone again talks back to him saying sending message to janet. another example is if you say I'm hungry. the phone will ask you if you would like it to look up restaurants close by. I'm telling you this thing is insane! as much as I hate the iphone. I've been wanting something like this for the longest time. I am like most people of this site. a really big tech junky. tech is all think about lol
Me too. Well, tech and woman. Haha... That sounds pretty nice. I'd love to see something like that available for all Android phones. Perhaps sometime in the future we'll see something like this... a gift from the developers we all know and love.
Check this out:
Speaktoit Assistant
crawler9 said:
Check this out:
Speaktoit Assistant
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Nice find, and for those with tablets it is honeycomb compatable