So a year ago when I bought this phone I apparently paid $500 to be a beta tester of an underperforming, premature, lackluster phone. I've lost alot of time behind this phone's malfunctions. yeah it's cool that I can tweak it and write software for it, but if everything locks the phone up whats the point.
well it froze for the 1 millionth and last time this morning. I witnessed "The Flight of the Mogul", and it was freakin awesome.
I'm over cell phones, I'd go back to smoke signals if i didn't run the risk of arson.
i think we all feel your pain. I'm just biding my time until i can afford a replacement. Likely ill wait the one more year or so till my contract is up and go to an iphone lol.
I would have gladly taken that sucker off your hands.
Good, glad to hear it you smashed your mogul. Meanwhile while yours lays in pieces mine is giving me the power playing movies flawlessly in skyfire, giving me perfect voice guided navigation from IGO 8, the piece of mind of the newest windows live speakable search, fast email and texting with a full qwerty keyboard, the power to retrieve files off my desktop at home, perfect access to my IM accounts, and new home screens whenever I grow tired of one. And you know the one thing I haven't worried about since DCD 3.x.x is ram. Everything runs smoothly and transitions like men in your mom's bedroom. Trash the mogul in some other forum, because for the majority of us it works perfectly. Compare it now to the problems the diamond has. I think you'll agree it has far less at this point. I will do fine on carrying me into the next generation. Nothing except the touch hd is really worth getting excited about right now and it is having trouble making it to the US. Why don't you just go get a blackberry storm? It is easier to use for you.
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I would have gladly taken that sucker off your hands.
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sorry, i would only give that phone to my worst enemy...
i'm not finished with it yet anyway. I still have plans to run over my HTC Titan with my Nissan Titan.
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Good, glad to hear it you smashed your mogul. Meanwhile while yours lays in pieces mine is giving me the power playing movies flawlessly in skyfire, giving me perfect voice guided navigation from IGO 8, the piece of mind of the newest windows live speakable search, fast email and texting with a full qwerty keyboard, the power to retrieve files off my desktop at home, perfect access to my IM accounts, and new home screens whenever I grow tired of one. And you know the one thing I haven't worried about since DCD 3.x.x is ram. Everything runs smoothly and transitions like men in your mom's bedroom. Trash the mogul in some other forum, because for the majority of us it works perfectly. Compare it now to the problems the diamond has. I think you'll agree it has far less at this point. I will do fine on carrying me into the next generation. Nothing except the touch hd is really worth getting excited about right now and it is having trouble making it to the US. Why don't you just go get a blackberry storm? It is easier to use for you.
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I'm happy for you. I admit that the only thing I haven't done is flash to a custom ROM, believe it or not I downloaded the latest DCD this weekend but never got around to it. I think the moral to the story is that the ability to customize a device with unofficial ROM's should not be the saving grace of an otherwise poor performing device. I believe that it should be an extra, cool thing to do for geek cred, not because the phone sucks otherwise. what's so hard about optimizing the phone for its hardware before release.
I've been riding it out for a long time, thru all the updates and ports of apps from other HTC's. So i think I'll just wait until the Raphael is improved upon, atleast it has a reasonable amount of memory.
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So a year ago when I bought this phone I apparently paid $500 to be a beta tester of an underperforming, premature, lackluster phone. I've lost alot of time behind this phone's malfunctions. yeah it's cool that I can tweak it and write software for it, but if everything locks the phone up whats the point.
well it froze for the 1 millionth and last time this morning. I witnessed "The Flight of the Mogul", and it was freakin awesome.
I'm over cell phones, I'd go back to smoke signals if i didn't run the risk of arson.
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LOL LOL LOL
I just posted a thread (please read its titled HELP!!!!!!) and then i turn around and see yours and all i can tsay is whew! not the only one today! LOL
By the way I ordered my new storm, have it soon. goodbye to WM, just gonna reflash back to stock and let wife have this damn thing
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LOL LOL LOL
I just posted a thread (please read its titled HELP!!!!!!) and then i turn around and see yours and all i can tsay is whew! not the only one today! LOL
By the way I ordered my new storm, have it soon. goodbye to WM, just gonna reflash back to stock and let wife have this damn thing
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I feel you. a friend of mine has it, and it's nice, but i can't roll with Verizon, plus i dont want to be apart of the crackberry scene, and i dont want to sell my soul to Apple, so I'll probably stick with WM, At the end of the day, m$ has the most mature API. i been drinkin their koolaid for my entire career.
but in the meantime I guess I'll resort to some good 'ol fashioned yodeling.
If you have had this much trouble than no matter how you look at it, the only reason you've had so much trouble is user error. If you don't know how to properly install and cook apps and roms, then get the f out of the kitchen homie. The mogul is for people who understand devices and computers or for those who want to learn. If you are looking for a cool devices that has not even a quarter of the programing capabilities than buy a storm or iphone. They are pretty. Or buy the diamond or the touch pro and be in the same boat. The mogul is old now and it still is running with the big boys and now more than ever doing it reliably. You have a problem with installing custom roms. Its called sdk my friends. Windows did the bare minimum to release the platform and then put it in the developers hands. Developers like dcd that have more talent in their little finger than most the people at microsoft or blackberry or apple. Wait for the standard blackberry and apple updates then as they are behind from the moment they are released. And mark my words, if you have trouble with the mogul you will have trouble with any htc device. They all have their ups and downs though the touch and the mogul's downs are pretty close to having them all worked out.
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If you have had this much trouble than no matter how you look at it, the only reason you've had so much trouble is user error. If you don't know how to properly install and cook apps and roms, then get the f out of the kitchen homie. The mogul is for people who understand devices and computers or for those who want to learn. If you are looking for a cool devices that has not even a quarter of the programing capabilities than buy a storm or iphone. They are pretty. Or buy the diamond or the touch pro and be in the same boat. The mogul is old now and it still is running with the big boys and now more than ever doing it reliably. You have a problem with installing custom roms. Its called sdk my friends. Windows did the bare minimum to release the platform and then put it in the developers hands. Developers like dcd that have more talent in their little finger than most the people at microsoft or blackberry or apple. Wait for the standard blackberry and apple updates then as they are behind from the moment they are released. And mark my words, if you have trouble with the mogul you will have trouble with any htc device. They all have their ups and downs though the touch and the mogul's downs are pretty close to having them all worked out.
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pump your brakes. it'll be ok.
Do you need me to draw you a schematic to pump yours?
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Do you need me to draw you a schematic to pump yours?
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please do.
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please do.
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Good one. Loewst, sir, as much as I enjoy this written pissing contest with you I think what's said and done is said and done. You're an idiot and broke one of the top 15 if not top ten devices out there, which I'm not entirely sure you did. Probably woke up this morning and decided to put up a bull**** post because you were bored. Whatever the case this is probably my last post for today because I get out of work in an hour. Enjoy your smashed plastic. I buy and move so many moguls to people that love them that proves you to be just a little drama queen. Peace out.
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Good one. Loewst, sir, as much as I enjoy this written pissing contest with you I think what's said and done is said and done. You're an idiot and broke one of the top 15 if not top ten devices out there, which I'm not entirely sure you did. Probably woke up this morning and decided to put up a bull**** post because you were bored. Whatever the case this is probably my last post for today because I get out of work in an hour. Enjoy your smashed plastic. I buy and move so many moguls to people that love them that proves you to be just a little drama queen. Peace out.
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ok Sweety Puss.
i don't take it personal. but yes i did smash my phone. lol.
I feel for you.
Just today I opened up the Media Player, went to the music library, and noticed one of my albums was in there TWICE. I couldn't believe it. I had to do an 'update library' just to get rid of it. I thought about throwing it under a truck. The horror of it all.
I'll bet by this Friday, I'll have even have to do a soft reset again. I already did one LAST WEEK. Uncalled for.
Flaming POS.
What's funny is that the 6800 seems to have the least appeal to two sets of users. IMO there are four broad categories of users:
1. Casuals
2. Intermediates
3. advanced
4. Pushers
Casuals are people like my mom. You know them. They want a phone but don't know the first thing about how to do anything with them. Believe it or not, the 6800 is just fine for them. You can use the standard WM 6 interface right out of the box and it serves as a very nice pcoket computer and cell phone. You see, casual users don't need a bunch of fancy tricks and special apps. They are happy to simply get a cell phone, camera, qwerty key board, and push email and pim. Nevertheless, casual users are apt to enjoy the neat interface of the iphone or storm.
Intermediates are very likely not to enjoy the 6800. Why? Because they know just enough to be dangerous. Just enough to flash a ROM improperly or load up their phone with a hundred apps and then complain when their phone becomes unstable. They get frustrated and do things like throw their phones in the air when they have no one but themselves to blame.
Advanced users, I think, like the 6800 because of its work-horse reputation, functionality, and its modability. Advanced users know how to keep their phones trim and fit and in good shape so that it doesn't crash all the time. They know how to mange their ROM and use the phone with as great efficiency as possible.
Pushers like to push the boundaries of the phone world. They are not happy unless they have the latest and greatest of everything. Latest features....latest hardware....latest software. Pushers will hate the 6800, just as they will, frankly, end up hating anything that was released more than 3 months ago. Why? Because vy then the next latest and greatest gadget is released and, by God, they have to have it!
I LOVE my 6800. It does almost everything I could ask of it. The only thing it really lacks, IMO, is a g-sensor, and so far other than the cute use as a bubble level for handyman work, all of the g-sensor stuff seems to fit in the amusing pout pointless category.
People are constantly amazed at what my 6800 can do. I have had iphone users, even after the app store opened, literally downtrodden after everything they showed me they could do I could do and then I went on and did about a dozen things they could not do.
I have complete voice navigation and gps. I have finger friendly and flick friendly apps up the ying-yang. I get the full web experience and can view streaming videos and flash and you tube on the net.
I have voice activation. I have weather. I have swappable memory (try that iphone freaks) and have every single song and most of my movie library on my phone. I recently took a 12 hour flight by myself in a jet that had a power outlet at every seat and I needed nothing with me but my phone to keep me not only out of boredom but actually entertained.
My 6800 is my office...anywhere I go. I can access my desktop at work remotely. I can not only view but create and edit Word and Excel docs. Need a quick deal memo during an important business meeting at lunch? I can take notes with my stylus BY HAND, then type them up into a Word Doc deal memo and email it to an office to have it printed. I can then run some figures in Pocket Excel to project the proceeds from the deal. All in the restaurant over lunch.
And I have yet to see ANY software keyboard come close to the hardware keyboard of the 6800. The iphone keyboard sucks. So does the diamond and the storm. They all suck...by definition. My hardware keyboard is large, usable with my big thumbs, and doesn't take up an inch of screen real estate. Can you say that of the iphone? The storm? The Touch?
I fully understand the RAM issue, but holy crud...just how many toys do you need running at the same time on your phone? I do plenty on the 6800 and I don't mind the RAM. Yeah, I suppose it could load in 2 seconds instead of 4. But who except a PUSHER would care?
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Nicely put Devin! I don't think I love my Mogul quite as much as you, but it will do till significantly better hardware comes my way.
Some people take this hobby a bit to seriously. others, apparently need anger management counseling. in the end, it's just another PPC. an I bet the OP is just eating all this attention up. reminds me of my over spoiled girlfriends kids. wannna just whack em with a newspaper! heh. Lighten up people.
I wanted to rip into him some more but now I feel on his level so I am editing this post to save myself. Thank you devinc. Meanwhile, sin-cal if you want to be a father figure join the Dr. Phil forum and let us nerdy types continue with our verbal jousting, cool with you?
sweeny, your post is amusing. father figure, let the nerds squabble amongst themselves. So, first off, wasn't talking to you. secondly, I think i'm allowed to post my thoughts and feelings. so, continue on with your so called, nerd jousting. dad will just close the bedroom door while sparky plays big boy on the computer.
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Just a useless thread, but I can't help but share !
So I'm sitting at my desk yesterday at work, with my Touch just sitting out in the open, and along comes a fellow sales rep. He picks up the phone, looks at, and says, "HA! I heard this phone sucks!" I wanted to tell him to f*** off, but we joke around a lot, so I really wasn't pissed. But, I did get a kick out of it. Whoever owns this phone and thinks it sucks, probably shouldn't own this phone, and has no clue of what it can do!
i love the phone i just wish the screen was bigger!
Let me guess, he uses a i****?
mac envy
For those of us who started with DOS and then came this cool mac thing with drop and drag we understand this ibrick envy. thank god for competition because without it windows users would still be typing in **** like C: and not getting a smiley face emoticon. This phone is great (i would say HTC is great). its funny to see the i**** showing how to download 3rd party software as a "new" thing when this phone had that long time ago. now if verizon could get off their tech hiding, lets milk this one out mode...
I too get really tired of reading how badly this phone sucks - mainly on other forums and it's a shame cuz I think this is definetly my favorite phone in a LONG time. Windows Mobile has always been great for me but the past year and a half learning on this forum has helped me and many of my buddies "pimp" lol the crap out of our phones, seriously I am not jealous one bit of an iPOS. Even the ladies think it's bad too... You have all these guys out there that think they know what's up because they downloaded an app on their iPhones and its sooo cool then I pop open my Touch and own em all with all the crap this phone can do.
That's the problem now, though.. now the iTools going to be experts cuz of the "App Store" and will be all over you trying to impress you cuz they can "install appzz on thier iPhones!" OMFG WOW LOLZ!!!!! Shoot me now.
When I first got this phone it did suck.
The stock rom was balls. It was clunky, slow, and half the time incomming calls would not come through due to the phone staying in sleep mode.
Pocket IE is also terrible. It leaves a bad experience after using it for a while.
I can understand why people would give this phone a bad review.
After flashing a custom rom and adding a few 3rd party apps like opera 9.5 this phone is great.
Yea I agree...
When I first heard about this phone coming out I was really excited to see it in action, but when I tried it out at the Sprint store I was highly disappointed and basically opted for a Motorola Q over this phone. The Q was a nice phone while it lasted, but it only lasted me for a little over a year. I started getting excited when I heard the Instinct was coming out and got the "new cell phone itch" all over again. I then heard so many bad reviews of the Instinct and didn't want to switch off my plan (SERO). So I looked into this phone again and found out how crazily you can mod it (thanks to Youtube videos mainly). In my opinion this phone blows both the iPhone and the Instinct wayyyy out of the water. Now i'm wishing I could buy the Diamond when it comes out...but I'm in no rush to get rid of this phone any time soon.
I find that most people dont even know that Verizon sells this phone, besides, this thing is a Chick magnet, especially with my Whee Skin, Haha!
the only thing the diamond has on the vogue is a better camera, wifi and 64mb more ram, same processor same screen size 2.8" i would stick with the vogue oh and 2 more hardware keys
In 2 months it will be a year since the thread was created. Crazy how time flies....
I for my part still love my htc touch.
always get SO amused when an colleague, Iphone user, starts ranting about, ultimately, how better his phone is, and i go:
oh yeah, this Iphone is sooo awesome, but you know, it was too expensive at the time for what i was willing to spend for a cell, 600$ is... welll... a laptop, right? plus...you know, i couldnt resist 10$ a month for unlimited internet, and 10$ a month for unlimited emails & messenger... and theres the GPS chip... yeah it has a gps chip.. not the triangulation antenna thingy...did i mention 20$ unlimited... yeah.... but the Iphone rocks tho ! yeah... oh yah i get to install a lots of free apps too...ya know...
...kills me everytime...
(no seriously, to each his own, it's all good, but i'm keeping my htc touch for a while more, heck, till it catches on fire ! )
am keeping mine until i get my diamond2 on sprint..... contract ends in december... hopefully by then....
or if i like the touchpro2 ... MAYBE.. i dont like physical keyboards much
still fun
finally got my phone where i like it and it kinda bums me out cuz i dont wanna do any major mods to further trick it (and have to deal with the bugs). the vzw store only had two phones that came close to the touch even a year later. the only thing missing on the touch is g accelerator at this point. for the size and function i still love this phone too.
Lmao! Wow I forgot about this thread! Though I feel ashamed now cause I have an iPhone.
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Lmao! Wow I forgot about this thread! Though I feel ashamed now cause I have an iPhone.
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hahah ew.... iphone :S
great phone
iphone is nice ui but it is the only ui you get.The iphone is exactly like every other iphone. It is ok if you want to be a drone like everybody else, and want everything done for u, but if you want to alter your phone to the infinite level, in every category then this phone rocks. It is a little dated now but still has new custom roms coming out all the time. New programs and ui's being ported to it. This phone will be around a long time. I have unlimited internet for seven bucks, my email is free and sent to me via shaw's server just like on my pc. Free gps, I use orb to stream my analog and digital channels to my phone free with almost no buffering on a high speed network. I can listen to almost any radio station in the world free. Weather delivered , up to date...free
navigation....free. rss feeds,bluetooth,camera,windows office, opera , silent tethering to pc or handheld, google maps,mp3 player. There is so much you can do with this phone. It is a great introductory level phone for learning basics and beyond.i pay 37 dollars a month for my plan and i have a buddy who pays 120 a month for his iphone on a good month. i will stick with this one until i can afford a Leo or whitestone.
i luv the phone. when i first got it, i thought i would be bigger. I just wish it had more ram and a g senor.
i love the vogue but i hate winmo with a passion. sad to say but im ditching the vogue in a few months for the pre or hero.
I've been doing a lot of research, and reading on the G1 forum, but i was just curious what you guys thought about the new Tmobile G1. It looks like a really slick phone and I'm seriously thinking about ordering it.
I know a lot of people will post the "its awesome" pitch.... but honestly
pros: extremely powerful hardware with a very stable operating system.
cons: the operating system is very new... meaning that there is no real software or rom development out there for it.... meaning no customization. (and currently no real games at all!!!! lol)
conclusion: im happy enough with my wing that i PERSONALLY will stick with it for a while (especially with ttrans new 7.4 rom - great performance and plenty of space).... as soon as some real progress is made in development for android i will buy a G1
I pre-ordered mine 2 hours ago and can't wait to get mine on November 10th.
I have the Wing and love it but I'm the type of person that gets bored really fast. So G1 here I come!
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I pre-ordered mine 2 hours ago and can't wait to get mine on November 10th.
I have the Wing and love it but I'm the type of person that gets bored really fast. So G1 here I come!
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Well if your that type of person then you will only be entertained by the G1 for about a week... i've been doing some reseach on it and most of the reviews say that its pretty basic and needs work by developers! the only reason i would get one is the fact that it has the hardware to support 3G..but my location wont have it till next year so im happy with my wing!!
i personally love my wing
i can see my self upgrading to the touch pro instead of the g1
i ilke the innovative look the the g1 but if i get some hand on with it i can see which phone i will go to
i have had a lot of hands on with the touch diamond so i can fix a lot of the issues with the touch pro if i get it
Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of **** we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.
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Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of **** we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.
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i think i will i do want to try the g1 but i dont like how limited the 3g coverage is but it does look like a good phone
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Look, I loved my Wing when I had it too. But any one who thinks the G1 won't blow the Wing out of the water is ridiculously stupid. And I don't say that to offend any one either. Do some research. Look at what the phone can do and what they phone will do in the future. People can make applications. That right there says a bunch. Imagine the kind of **** we'll be able to use. Android may be new, but it's gotten great reviews. As time goes on, it will only get better for the G1 and its users. There's a reason they've sold over 1.5 million pre-orders for the G1. Stick with Windows Mobile if you want, lol.
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I just wish I had one so I could actually spend time with it. The fact that it's more or less open source, means there will be a ton of programs and applications once there is time to make them. I think I'll hold off for a bit, but 179 is ridiculously cheap compared to the wing, and has the hardware to smoke, but for the time being, I think I'll just keep moddin my wing and do some more research.
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I just wish I had one so I could actually spend time with it. The fact that it's more or less open source, means there will be a ton of programs and applications once there is time to make them. I think I'll hold off for a bit, but 179 is ridiculously cheap compared to the wing, and has the hardware to smoke, but for the time being, I think I'll just keep moddin my wing and do some more research.
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amen to that
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amen to that
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Hey congrats on your 100th post. You are officially a SENIOR member. Glad I could help!
i believe the g1 will b a wonderful fone but wing is an excellent fone.u guys are jumping to the g1 not knowing wat ur getting into ill wait to get one 2nd hand.just my two cents
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i believe the g1 will b a wonderful fone but wing is an excellent fone.u guys are jumping to the g1 not knowing wat ur getting into ill wait to get one 2nd hand.just my two cents
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Nah, I'm going to wait and do more research and see what programs, roms, and games become available. I think I'll stick with the wing for now, and just mod and flash roms every other week! lol. But, the G1 is only 179 so thats a huge price drop. Either way, I really can't wait to see what becomes available for the G1.
what would be great would be a g1 wm6 port - with fully functional drivers..... i know everyone is talking about getting android on their phone, but just think for a second how nice it would be to get a nice new extremely fast phone for 170 odd dollars and continue using all the software you are familiar with.... and then as soon as application development and customization become mainsteam for android you could always flash back. i know its too much to wish for because of the lack of drivers, but it would be great for me if it ended up happening
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what would be great would be a g1 wm6 port - with fully functional drivers..... i know everyone is talking about getting android on their phone, but just think for a second how nice it would be to get a nice new extremely fast phone for 170 odd dollars and continue using all the software you are familiar with.... and then as soon as application development and customization become mainsteam for android you could always flash back. i know its too much to wish for because of the lack of drivers, but it would be great for me if it ended up happening
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You know, that would be PERFECT. I'm really not that familiar with the Android o.s., but if they could incorporate it into WM6, then it would be hands down the winner. We could use everything we already use to load applications, etc. Since it's supposed to be open source, maybe somebody will figure out how to do it?!?
G1 vs Wing
This month in PC Magazine (October 2008) Sascha Sagan, the director of new product reviews, said this,"never buy a product in the first few weeks after it comes out. Wait a month. By then... you will be able to tell if something is really worth a buy".
My two cents,
Paul D.
G1 will eventually be better than the wing, just not now. There's alot of holes that need patching up in the os to make it a real competitor to wm. When u compare Android right now to say ttran otp 7.x, Android isn't even in the same league. But give it some time, and maybe Android 2.0, then u'll really start seeing what G1 can do.
Also, this will be a fun phone in regards to xda's developing and hacking community and also to us, the end-user. As people start accessing and examing the innards of Android, who knows what juicy things can be created and imagined. Only issue i see is the stuff they left out, but the os seems to be solid with no real problems experienced. Messaging needs work, with mms being the main problem (can't send gifs or video).
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G1 will eventually be better than the wing, just not now. There's alot of holes that need patching up in the os to make it a real competitor to wm. When u compare Android right now to say ttran otp 7.x, Android isn't even in the same league. But give it some time, and maybe Android 2.0, then u'll really start seeing what G1 can do.
Also, this will be a fun phone in regards to xda's developing and hacking community and also to us, the end-user. As people start accessing and examing the innards of Android, who knows what juicy things can be created and imagined. Only issue i see is the stuff they left out, but the os seems to be solid with no real problems experienced. Messaging needs work, with mms being the main problem (can't send gifs or video).
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Yeah I agree. Seeing how this phone is really meant to be modified, I can't even imagine the amount of software, roms, mods, etc there will be for this phone. I do think it will take some time, so I believe I will hold off, but I'm pretty excited about it.
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You know, that would be PERFECT. I'm really not that familiar with the Android o.s., but if they could incorporate it into WM6, then it would be hands down the winner. We could use everything we already use to load applications, etc. Since it's supposed to be open source, maybe somebody will figure out how to do it?!?
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that is exactly what i want. i just want to keep useing windows mobile. it has been around for ever (ce). hopefully someone in the linux community will figure out how to flash it to what ever you want.
I am a G1/Wing owner. I got my G1 2 days ago and i can tell you, i am very happy with the phone so far. I do miss using TTran's OPT and hope they port TouchFlo2D to Android. The Manilla Theme is the best i've seen!
I am also one of those people that would much rather run Linux on my PCs at home, but don't because i am in the IT field so i need to stay current on Windows. Anyhow, I understand people wanting to wait and recommend most do that. I am not usually the type to jump on a product at Version 1 until some updates and public testing has been done. But i am looking forward to Android's growing pains!
I just upgraded to a G1. What I did was, when the G1 presale was announced, I called to say I was going to cancel my service soon and asked what they would offer to keep me. The CS rep asked what I had in mind. I said I wanted the to see if there was a way to get the G1 with 1 a year contract. The CS rep told me not until after the actual launch but she would lower my unlimited family text messaging to $9.99 permanently if I would wait until the launch to decide. I agreed. So today, I called back for the G1. They offered me the G1 for $179 + NO $18 upgrade fee if I agreed to keep my four lines for 1 year. So, that's what I did. I wasn't going to cancel anyway because, it's hard top beat T-Mo's rates, even if the coverage is a little weaker than other carriers in my area. My Wing will likely be up for sale after I evaluate the G1.
Update:
I just canceled my order. I don't want to put $800 on the line to save $300.
It's crazy. The phone is great, it's what I've wanted for years. I got it just today and besides having to get used to the on-screen keyboard I must say it is the best phone I have ever used.
The Rhodium, in retrospect, was a clunky machine, and one of the best windows had to offer. This late in the game though, just an antiquated OS. I am so happy to be done with a Windows.
Why the thread?
Do you, geeks that we are, find no one in your immediate circle who understands?
I got home and am soooo satisfied win my decision, no longer having to tinker and be OCD, I know, not very geeky. Just I think I have been spending a bit to much time modifying and not enjoying my phone. I also didn't want be in he hands of Steve and the fruit phone.
Any similar stories...
Mine stopped vibrating after 5 seconds, apart from that great phone.
Quick tip: Setup haptic feedback on the keyboard if you haven't already. It truly makes a touchscreen keyboard 5x easier to use/learn.
I'm basing my opinion on haptic with the N1 vs. non-haptic w/ my iTouch. It's nice to have "something" that tells you that you just pressed something.
Also, learn to use the auto-correct. Especially holding down new words/names that it normally "tries" to auto-correct. (Such as "app(s), Haha, and various others that the phone tries to correct to really odd words) (Haha, will default to BAHAMAS!!!... WTF?)
Just thought I'd try to be useful
I know exactly what you mean... I got a TyTN II and the first thing I did was flash a custom ROM so it would actually be useable... then, after about 6 months, I found out I could run Android on it... really well! After a couple months of looking at it, I finally took the plunge to see what Android was all about, not thinking I would be blown away, especially considering I was running it on a WM device.
What did I discover? Android ran better on my Kaiser than WM did! I was hooked, and a couple months later got myself a G1 to replace the Kaiser... The G1 still had some issues, IMO, in terms of speed and found myself still flashing customer ROMs, but it wasn't out of total neccesity at least.. and now, I have a Nexus One, which is hands down the best phone I have ever experienced! I don't even feel like it is needed to put a custom ROM on it, I have and will again, but the stock experience is more than fulfilling!
Mate, I get the exact same feeling.. No one really "gets" me when it comes to this phone.
It's just a phone they say, what does it do that your HTC Diamond doesn't? Seriously.. the only thing I can come up with, is it has a flash.. But we know it's so much more than that, don't we?
I've already been told by a few people; "oh don't buy googles first phone, it'll have lots of bugs, you should wait till the second release." Little do they know nor understand.
First moment I got my Diamond I flashed it because it had too much carrier crap on it. Who wants everything to be customized by someone else.. Seriously..
*Eagerly awaiting my new shiny phone*
I was quite surprised by no real bugs to be seen or heard of myself. I was wary of the purchase, but easily the best one I ever decided upon.
I'm still trying to see if the great developer folks figure out a re-lock... But every day I'm considering rooting... Ugh!
I can connect to my home PC (Edit: from anywhere with 3G) and mouse and keyboard around on it using the Remote RDP program for Android. I find this impresses people fairly well.
I'm fine with using Gmote for free to pull any music/video to my phone... Still haven't hopped onto the paid apps bandwagon yet. Still working my way through the free apps, to get a grasp on what I like, and don't like.
But, it would be nice to have even more control remotely. I'm just staying in minimal-mode for a bit.
I'm surrounded by iPhone and BB users, most of which are completely, utterly technologically illiterate--I'm talking about people who don't even understand processor speeds/RAM size, so they can't even appreciate how fast the Snapdragon is. People who aren't users of either want one. "Android" is like Greek to them.
I do know a few geeky people, but they're rare around here. :/
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I know exactly what you mean... I got a TyTN II and the first thing I did was flash a custom ROM so it would actually be useable... then, after about 6 months, I found out I could run Android on it... really well! After a couple months of looking at it, I finally took the plunge to see what Android was all about, not thinking I would be blown away, especially considering I was running it on a WM device.
What did I discover? Android ran better on my Kaiser than WM did! I was hooked, and a couple months later got myself a G1 to replace the Kaiser... The G1 still had some issues, IMO, in terms of speed and found myself still flashing customer ROMs, but it wasn't out of total neccesity at least.. and now, I have a Nexus One, which is hands down the best phone I have ever experienced! I don't even feel like it is needed to put a custom ROM on it, I have and will again, but the stock experience is more than fulfilling!
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I did the exact same thing man. I had the first gen iPhone for about a month, hated it. Then got the AT&T tilt, and flashed a custom rom on it. I worked at T-Mobile, and my co-workers would say, I should just go work for at&t lol, then I finally got the G1 a week before launch and fell in love with android. Its the best OS I could have asked for and knew it would be a winner. Then up until 2 days ago, I finally received the nexus one and WOW, it is so much faster, i'm still shocked. I haven't rooted or installed a new rom because I don't think it needs it. It runs great stock. Awesome phone, that I think only us xda nerds know how to appreciate. It really a great device upgrade for those of us who had stuck with the G1 for so long.
Nice feedback
I made a thread saying why I moved in the Rhodium forum and should have known better. I just wanted to share. They are letting me have it.
But it is so true, this device is a great medium. Customizable, elegant, powerful, what more could we ask for(lets further he Convo)?
Glad you guys love it. I'm looking forward to getting one for my wifey while I get the HD2.
Well then she can hang with the best and you can hang with the rest
I tend to explain the phone as "a netbook with a phone feature that fits in you hand." The specs truly are that of a netbook.
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I tend to explain the phone as "a netbook with a phone feature that fits in you hand." The specs truly are that of a netbook.
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Exactly! It is a great device with great specs...
No question... the N1 is the best phone I've had.
Love my G1 and still use it but my N1 is my dress to impress phone...
Agreed.
Noone has a clue enough to appreciate it.
Unlike the iPhone it doesnt have a hype machine to make people desire it.
For selfish reasons I dont want too many people having them. Id prefer everyone knowing about and wanting one..but few actually having it.
xManMythLegend said:
Agreed.
Noone has a clue enough to appreciate it.
Unlike the iPhone it doesnt have a hype machine to make people desire it.
For selfish reasons I dont want too many people having them. Id prefer everyone knowing about and wanting one..but few actually having it.
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Haha! Amen to that!
I see everyone drooling over the Nexus One all 'round.
But when it comes to their next phone, most of the techno-illiterati
will plump for a BB or an iPhone.
And that, in my book, is as it should be
This phone is for true connoisseurs.
karthikjr said:
Haha! Amen to that!
I see everyone drooling over the Nexus One all 'round.
But when it comes to their next phone, most of the techno-illiterati
will plump for a BB or an iPhone.
And that, in my book, is as it should be
This phone is for true connoisseurs.
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You guys know that's how we all felt when we got our Wizards and Hermes right. It's a great feeling that comes when a phone is done right.
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Why you hatin on me galaxys? I love the features of this phone but enjoy WM also. Can't I have more than one woman?
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Why you hatin on me galaxys? I love the features of this phone but enjoy WM also. Can't I have more than one woman?
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OK, that's cool More than one woman and device has also been an obsession of mine as well
So, I am not sure this belongs here, but...
Prior to my purchasing the HD2 I had a V3 Motorola Razr...yeah, big leap.
I carried a Dell Axim with me for everything else and was waiting on just the right phone. Pounced when I saw press for the HD2 months before US release.
I had never been a texter, twitterer, etc. I only ever used a phone for telephonic communication.
So, Monday we had plans to go to the Children's Discovery Museum with my six-year old son and my 4.5 month old son (yea-we are very sleep deprived these days).
We get there and it is closed. In our state of barely awake these days we kind of forgot that a lot of things are closed on Mondays. So my wife gets the idea to go to another Children's museum farther out, but realizes that we left the Garmin at home and gets pissed off. She also cannot remember the name of it.
Out comes my knight in shining armor...my HD2.
So I pull up Bing and say, "Children's Museum CT." Up pops the name and phone number. I call and they are closed. Then we think of the Maritime Aquarium. I say, "Norwalk Aquarium." Up comes the number and address. I call and they are open. Then I have Bing direct us to the place (as the wife whines that we do not have directions). We get there no problem.
Once there I am snapping off great photos left and right of my babes and zapping them up to Facebook at 3G speeds. I take a phone call and handle a work email as I am now synched with exchange (I know...shouldn't have on a family outing, but I am wired that way). I also emailed Netgear from one of my personal accounts about a problem with an RMA I am having with my ReadyNAS duo. I even played a rousing game of "Yacht II" in the museum bathroom...private stall.
I pull up Bing again after our trip and find a restaurant on the way home and look at their online menu to make sure they have food my son likes.
On the way home I text my Father regarding our plans on July 4th.
Clean it all up with my Task Manager and CleanRAM.
I sat back at this point fully satisfied with my techno purchase that has taken so much heat (and even a little flack from my wife) and I turn to her and say:
"Honey, if this thing could blow me, I swear I would divorce you and marry it."
I love my HD2
Thanks, Cam, for giving me a chuckle this morning. I'm so sick of reading how bad the phone is from those people that don't know how to use it. Great read!
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So, I am not sure this belongs here, but...
Prior to my purchasing the HD2 I had a V3 Motorola Razr...yeah, big leap.
I carried a Dell Axim with me for everything else and was waiting on just the right phone. Pounced when I saw press for the HD2 months before US release.
I had never been a texter, twitterer, etc. I only ever used a phone for communication.
So, Monday we had plans to go to the Children's Discovery Museum with my six-year old son and my 4.5 month old son (yea-we are very sleep deprived hese days).
We get there and it is closed. In our state of barely awake these days we kind of forgot that a lot of things are closed on Mondays. So my wife gets the idea to go to another Children's museum farther out, but realizes that we left the Garmin at home and gets pissed off. She also cannot remember the name of it.
Out comes my knightin shining armor...my HD2.
So I pull up Bing and say, "Children's Museum CT." Up pops the name and phone number. I call and thy are closed. Then we think of the Maritime aquarium. I say, "Norwalk Aquarium." Up comes the number and address. I call and they are open. Then I have Bing direct us to the place (as the wife whines that we do not have directions). We get there no problem.
Once there I am snapping off great photos left and right of my babes and zapping them up to Facebook at 3G speeds. I take a phone call and handle a work email as I am now synched with exchange (I know...shouldn't have on a family outing). I also emailed Netgear from one of my personal accounts about a problem with an RMA I am having with my ReadyNAS duo. I even played a rousing game of "Yacht II" in the museum bathroom.
I pull up Bing again after our trip and find a restaurant on the way home and look at their online menu to make sure they have food my son likes.
On the way home I text my Father regarding our plans on July 4th.
I sat back at this point fully satisfied with my techno purchase that has taken so much heat and even a little flack from my wife and I turn to her and say:
"Honey, if this thing could blow me, I swear I would divorce you and marry it."
I love my HD2
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Now, I'm sure we can find ways to make that happen, be it aided visualization or .....
Glad I could bring a little joy
All true too!
I even omitted some stuff like a multiplayer game of UNO and reading an eBook later in the evening.
I swear I love this thing.
Think HTC might use my tag line as a slogo? (HAH!)
Aw man...Classic! That has been the story of my life almost everytime we go on a trip!
Awesome story. My bro in law is still trying to flaunt his IP4G and I laugh as I destroy him doing everything. Nothing like the HD2 as my Wife has one also and has her head stuck in it leaving me plenty of me time! This phone is fabulous and I am so happy you use it properly!
yeah, coming from sprint's 3g, this thing is flying. On sprint I would get 500-700kbps. on t-mobile I am getting 2000-4000 kbps. Before, I would download podcasts at 50-70 kbps, now I get 300+kbps. Just downloaded the new eminem album in 4min.
Sorry Sprint, you were reliable, and I even have 4g in my area, but I wasn't jumping ship from Winmo to Android. And San Antonio is next on the list for the HSPA+ so it can only get better.
Only problem I have had with my HD2 so far is freezeups when I try to close file explorer and it is on the memory card. Lesson learned.
The Dell X51v was a bad ass lil machine. Saw they were selling now for $50 on ebay. I was actually thinking of picking one up just to play with and try a lil cookin.
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Awesome story. My bro in law is still trying to flaunt his IP4G and I laugh as I destroy him doing everything. Nothing like the HD2 as my Wife has one also and has her head stuck in it leaving me plenty of me time! This phone is fabulous and I am so happy you use it properly!
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Heres some iphone fun you can do at work. Launch your Youtube app and show everyone a badd ass HD video on youtube. Then have all your ATT 3g friends watch the same video on the iCrap. It will come out all crappy and low resolution. Then in front of everyone say damn your 3G is slow. Then turn on your wifi router and tell them to connect to your phone and watch the youtube video again. Then all the sudden theirs is in HD too. It makes ATT and iphone look like complete crap. I had 3 iphones watchign hd youtube on my inferior HD2 one night. The reason why this happens is iphone and att made thier app to only show low resolution video while on 3G, but full resolution on wifi. So when they connecto to your wifi it fools the iphone into thinking its local and runs in HD.
That was some story man. You know I have the exact same feeling that you so eloquently or should I say uniquely described to your wife. Just today I was looking at the HD2 lying on my microfiber cloth (I never leave it on a bare suface) and was thinking about how darn thin it is and just how much it can do. So many people complain about the HD2's size... I just don't get it. I am completely dumbfounded by the number of people giving away their HD2s for reasons people like us can't even being to comprehend. Sometime's I hate it when I think that this phone doesn't get all the appreciation that it deserves, but then I also realise that in a weird way it's good that this isn't as wide spread as the iPhone. It makes it more special to know that we belong to a select group that is more technologically evolved.
We've all come such a long way with our phones and PDA's. I was thinking about the long journey i've had with tech gizmos and how much things have changed and just how awesome they are now.
My HD2 does everything! This is what I used to dream of 10 years ago, hoping and wishing that some day i'd be able to do all this stuff on one device.
Wish came true. Just can't wait to see what HTC will bring us going ahead.
I honestly wouldn't mind an even bigger screen and hope to god that they include a trackball with the next one. A good replacement for the D-Pad that we all miss while continuing to look great.
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That was some story man. You know I have the exact same feeling that you so eloquently or should I say uniquely described to your wife. Just today I was looking at the HD2 lying on my microfiber cloth (I never leave it on a bare suface) and was thinking about how darn thin it is and just how much it can do. So many people complain about the HD2's size... I just don't get it. I am completely dumbfounded by the number of people giving away their HD2s for reasons people like us can't even being to comprehend. Sometime's I hate it when I think that this phone doesn't get all the appreciation that it deserves, but then I also realise that in a weird way it's good that this isn't as wide spread as the iPhone. It makes it more special to know that we belong to a select group that is more technologically evolved.
We've all come such a long way with our phones and PDA's. I was thinking about the long journey i've had with tech gizmos and how much things have changed and just how awesome they are now.
My HD2 does everything! This is what I used to dream of 10 years ago, hoping and wishing that some day i'd be able to do all this stuff on one device.
Wish came true. Just can't wait to see what HTC will bring us going ahead.
I honestly wouldn't mind an even bigger screen and hope to god that they include a trackball with the next one. A good replacement for the D-Pad that we all miss while continuing to look great.
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+1...my exact thoughts on all of that. Well put, man
So I'm sitting in traffic the other day and fire up the Bing app. Lo and behold I discover they've eliminated my ability to lookup traffic on this device. WTF? And it won't reliably kick me over to the browser either.
Sure, it's a free app, but one that's kept me using a WM phone.
No longer. I'm off to go buy a Droid2. I've been waiting for a better phone and would've stuck with WM. But not when they take a perfectly good app and phone and destroy functionality on it. Who the hell thought this was a good idea? Couldn't they at least have handled the transition better? Yeah, yeah, I know they want to promote using more features and those require faster phones. But instead of giving me an upgrade path they've just alienated me as a customer.
WM7 just doesn't hold out enough hope at this point. I've got a Zune (gathering dust in a drawer), so I know the pain of failed expectations. MS has just totally dropped the ball in the portable market.
Truth be told I don't really need to use than many things on a phone. And it'll be a cold day in Hell before I purchase an iPhone. That company's policies are just despicable. Not that Google's any lily-white virgin either, but at least they don't censor applications and developers.
Goodbye WinMo, it's been nice while it lasted.
Brand new Droid 2 in my hands. Local store in Rockville had 80 of them. Talk to Daren there if you want decent help, nice guy.
First impression is it's almost the same size as the XV6800. A bit thinner and heavier and maybe a slight bit taller. But it's got a nice feel to it. Even fits in my XV6800's fabric sleeve. Oddly enough with all the cradle and holster options out there I prefer just using the sleeve and keeping it in my pocket. Even got a desk cradle for it. Out the door for $253 total, and that's before the $100 rebate. Gotta love NE2 promotions.
Android is a bit different. But like WinMo it's got plenty of ways "you can't get there from here". Editing contacts and such is different, but nearly as annoying as WM6.
Best impression so far? That the phone itself rings the first time, the same as what the caller hears. Annoyed the hell out of me on the XV6800, it wouldn't ring until at least one, usually two, rings had been heard by the caller. I had to change my voicemail ring delay because of it.
It's the little things, and that's what has pretty much killed the WinMo devices. There's just too many little things that suck. I wanted to believe in it but I've since given up. Ah well.
And now I've upgraded to a Droid4. Kinda miss the smaller form factor. And the old XV6800 sleeve doesn't fit it.
MS drove me away by abandoning my phone in the maps app, now they're driving away the winmo7 users by having no upgrade path to 8. Still not grasping the value of keeping customers. No chance I'll go back to an MS phone given this clear track record.
Meanwhile the D4 is nice, but the big win was rooting it and running wifi tether on it for use as a hotspot. Beats having to be limited to my 5gb/month on the USB modem (now a 10gb shared plan with the wife's ipad3-4g).
The old mogul was a good phone, we had lots of fun times and custom roms, winmo was glorious in its day, Microsoft just let it all slip away to android and ios.
sent from my Nook Tablet 16GB CM7.2 Alpha Final Emmc
Yes, it is sad that they quit supporting Bing for Windows Mobile. Have fun on your journey with Android!
I too finally ran out of spare 6800's and had to buy another phone. I went to Touch Pro for awhile and started cooking for it until I got a Droid X2.
It was a pleasure serving everyone and meeting people. The Mogul was a great phone and I learned a lot from it. Its funny how it just seems like yesterday.
Take care
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